On 14/12/2025 10:40 am, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
<Snip>
-a-a-a-a-aIn Sacramento, California in the years I was in HS 1951-1955 the >> authorities parked heavily damaged cars on significant street corners to
show the people and young people especially how driving badly could
end.
Our Authorities started doing this, maybe 5-10 years ago, on major
Highways. Sometimes parked in the Parking Lane, sometimes in the centre divide.
At first I thought they might have broken down .... but then you notice
all the bent panels .... and then the Police Tape sort of gives it away!!
-a-a-a-a-aI don't know the current yearly death counts but not long ago
it was about the same as a medium war.
Back in the 70's, the Road Deaths Count hit, I think, a top of 1034 per
year in the State of Victoria. Nowadays, after changes like compulsory seatbelt wearing, the count is about 225-250 per year. Still too high
but a hell of a lot better.
"Brutal" is mis-shifting a big old truck with a non-sync transmission
On 12/15/25 07:01, Daniel70 wrote:
On 12/12/2025 8:28 am, rbowman wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we had
with hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe
1984. I remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the
brakes were brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped
brutally. Vacuum servo-assist.
I don't think they do it as much anymore but automatic transmission
cars used to have very wide brake pedals, presumably to allow for
braking with your left foot.
Naughty! Naughty!! ;-P
Brutal was when your manual transmission muscle memory kicked in, you
attempted to hit the clutch pedal, and got the brake instead.
-a "Brutal" is mis-shifting a big old truck
-a with a non-sync transmission-a :-)
On 14/12/2025 06:33, c186282 wrote:
OR Putin would just step up the size/number ofHe cabt. He as at the kimit alreday
-a-a missiles sent into Ukraine ....
On 12/15/25 07:45, Daniel70 wrote:
On 14/12/2025 10:40 am, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
<Snip>
In Sacramento, California in the years I was in HS 1951-1955 the
authorities parked heavily damaged cars on significant street
corners to show the people and young people especially how
driving badly could end.
Our Authorities started doing this, maybe 5-10 years ago, on major
Highways. Sometimes parked in the Parking Lane, sometimes in the
centre divide.
At first I thought they might have broken down .... but then you
notice all the bent panels .... and then the Police Tape sort of
gives it away!!
I don't know the current yearly death counts but not long ago it
was about the same as a medium war.
Back in the 70's, the Road Deaths Count hit, I think, a top of
1034 per year in the State of Victoria. Nowadays, after changes
like compulsory seatbelt wearing, the count is about 225-250 per
year. Still too high but a hell of a lot better.
Humans are involved ... don't expect "perfection".
I guess the next decade's "automobiles" will be like a "Johnny Cab"
... YOU don't do anything but tell it where you want to go
- assuming that's in its database and assuming you want it all
reported in detail to govt agencies LOOKING to fuck you ...........
On 16/12/2025 5:18 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote:He is at the limit already.
On 14/12/2025 06:33, c186282 wrote:
OR Putin would just step up the size/number ofHe cabt. He as at the kimit alreday
-a-a missiles sent into Ukraine ....
?? What??
On 15/12/2025 18:34, Carlos E.R. wrote:
-a-a "Palier" ??? Took me awhile to even look that up.
-a-a I get two main images ... one looks like a bolt-on
-a-a "pillow bearing" and the other refers to the tube
-a-a each transverse differential shaft runs inside.
The photo on the link should clarify Efye
Wikipedia suggests "Shaft", but that is too generic.
Its what we call a 'half shaft' - from the differential, to the wheel.
May or may not be enclosed.
On 16/12/2025 2:28 pm, c186282 wrote:
I guess the next decade's "automobiles" will be like a "Johnny Cab"
... YOU don't do anything but tell it where you want to go
Yeap, and it will be 'talking' to all the other vehicles so it will
decide how to get you to where you think you want to go.
Shades of 1969 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Hurricane
"Other features included Pathfinder, which used magnetic signals built
into the road to guide the driver."
- assuming that's in its database and assuming you want it all
reported in detail to govt agencies LOOKING to fuck you ...........
WHAT?? My Government trying to do me over! That'd never happen, would it??
"If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear."
On the other hand, I once read a science fiction story where the protagonist's self-driving car pulled off to the side of the road,
locked the doors, and refused to let him move until he bought
whatever was being advertised on the radio. (Fortunately for
him a friend passing by saw his predicament and rescued him.)
On 16/12/2025 12:26, Daniel70 wrote:
On 16/12/2025 5:18 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote:He is at the limit already.
On 14/12/2025 06:33, c186282 wrote:
OR Putin would just step up the size/number ofHe cabt. He as at the kimit alreday
-a-a missiles sent into Ukraine ....
?? What??
On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 03:42:57 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
I never drove an automatic car.
She was around 70 when I had to convince my mother she could drive an automatic. She'd only been driving since 1921 and had taught her father
how to drive. She adapted to AT, power brakes, and power steering nicely.
My first car was an automatic but I eventually replaced the tired Torqueflight with a manual. Easier said than done.
Having lost most of my right arm in a car accident(in a Manual car
almost 50 years ago), I HAVE TO drive an Automatic.
In the almost 50 years since that accident, I have only driven a Manual
ONCE .... and the Car's owner was sitting in the Passenger seat to move
the gear stick when required.
On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 23:11:17 +1100, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Having lost most of my right arm in a car accident(in a Manual car
almost 50 years ago), I HAVE TO drive an Automatic.
In the almost 50 years since that accident, I have only driven a Manual >>ONCE .... and the Car's owner was sitting in the Passenger seat to move
the gear stick when required.
Many years ago when I broke my right arm, I continued to drive my
vehicle with a 5-speed manual by reaching across with my left arm. It
wasn't a problem and I assume you could do the same if you had to.
On 17/12/2025 1:29 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/12/2025 12:26, Daniel70 wrote:Yes, would you believe, before clicking on this reply, I re-read my post
On 16/12/2025 5:18 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote:He is at the limit already.
On 14/12/2025 06:33, c186282 wrote:
OR Putin would just step up the size/number ofHe cabt. He as at the kimit alreday
-a-a missiles sent into Ukraine ....
?? What??
and your post with-in my post .... and it all made sense!! Allowing for
a bit of keyboard inaccuracy.
"He cabt. He as at the kimit alreday" becomes "He cant. He is at the
limit already".
On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 23:11:17 +1100, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Having lost most of my right arm in a car accident(in a Manual car
almost 50 years ago), I HAVE TO drive an Automatic.
In the almost 50 years since that accident, I have only driven a Manual
ONCE .... and the Car's owner was sitting in the Passenger seat to move
the gear stick when required.
Many years ago when I broke my right arm, I continued to drive my
vehicle with a 5-speed manual by reaching across with my left arm. It
wasn't a problem and I assume you could do the same if you had to.
On 12/17/25 07:00, Daniel70 wrote:
On 17/12/2025 1:29 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/12/2025 12:26, Daniel70 wrote:Yes, would you believe, before clicking on this reply, I re-read my
On 16/12/2025 5:18 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote:He is at the limit already.
On 14/12/2025 06:33, c186282 wrote:
OR Putin would just step up the size/number ofHe cabt. He as at the kimit alreday
-a-a missiles sent into Ukraine ....
?? What??
post and your post with-in my post .... and it all made sense!!
Allowing for a bit of keyboard inaccuracy.
"He cabt. He as at the kimit alreday" becomes "He cant. He is at the
limit already".
-a Heh heh ...
-a But Putin is NOT at any limit ... esp with China/NK
-a now adding to his capabilities.
On 12/17/25 13:28, Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 23:11:17 +1100, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Having lost most of my right arm in a car accident(in a Manual car
almost 50 years ago), I HAVE TO drive an Automatic.
In the almost 50 years since that accident, I have only driven a Manual
ONCE .... and the Car's owner was sitting in the Passenger seat to move
the gear stick when required.
Many years ago when I broke my right arm, I continued to drive my
vehicle with a 5-speed manual by reaching across with my left arm. It
wasn't a problem and I assume you could do the same if you had to.
-a He probably COULD ... but it'd be clunky. A better
-a task for a young guy.
On 2025-12-16, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 16/12/2025 2:28 pm, c186282 wrote:
I guess the next decade's "automobiles" will be like a "Johnny Cab"
... YOU don't do anything but tell it where you want to go
Yeap, and it will be 'talking' to all the other vehicles so it will
decide how to get you to where you think you want to go.
Shades of 1969 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Hurricane
"Other features included Pathfinder, which used magnetic signals built
into the road to guide the driver."
On the other hand, I once read a science fiction story where the protagonist's self-driving car pulled off to the side of the road,
locked the doors, and refused to let him move until he bought
whatever was being advertised on the radio. (Fortunately for
him a friend passing by saw his predicament and rescued him.)
- assuming that's in its database and assuming you want it all
reported in detail to govt agencies LOOKING to fuck you ...........
WHAT?? My Government trying to do me over! That'd never happen, would it??
Certainly not. Otherwise, if they wanted you they would just make your self-driving car lock the doors and take you to a secure police compound.
"If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear."
Even if the definition of "wrong" can change retroactively?
On 2025-12-17 01:42, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
On 2025-12-16, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 16/12/2025 2:28 pm, c186282 wrote:
I guess the next decade's "automobiles" will be like a "Johnny Cab"
... YOU don't do anything but tell it where you want to go
Yeap, and it will be 'talking' to all the other vehicles so it will
decide how to get you to where you think you want to go.
Shades of 1969 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Hurricane
"Other features included Pathfinder, which used magnetic signals built
into the road to guide the driver."
On the other hand, I once read a science fiction story where the
protagonist's self-driving car pulled off to the side of the road,
locked the doors, and refused to let him move until he bought
whatever was being advertised on the radio.-a (Fortunately for
him a friend passing by saw his predicament and rescued him.)
Wow.
I would think of smart tvs showing adverts, and if you do not pay
attention, something they know by photographing your eyes, they would
replay again and again the adverts before letting us watch the movie :-P
On 2025-12-17 01:42, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
Certainly not.-a Otherwise, if they wanted you they would just make your
self-driving car lock the doors and take you to a secure police compound.
"If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear."
Even if the definition of "wrong" can change retroactively?
On one Asimov tale, a character goes back in time several times, to
change life, but not his enemy, till a moment in the future where what
his enemy did sometime that was was praiseworthy becomes very bad
(because of his tiny changes of the timeline) and he is arrested.
On 19/12/2025 8:56 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-12-17 01:42, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
<Snip>
Certainly not.-a Otherwise, if they wanted you they would just make your >>> self-driving car lock the doors and take you to a secure police
compound.
"If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear."
Even if the definition of "wrong" can change retroactively?
On one Asimov tale, a character goes back in time several times, to
change life, but not his enemy, till a moment in the future where what
his enemy did sometime that was was praiseworthy becomes very bad
(because of his tiny changes of the timeline) and he is arrested.
But doesn't the "Back to the Future" trilogy of films prove that false??
He goes back to 1955 or so, changes things comes back to "present day"
but things are different.
On 12/18/25 16:56, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-12-17 01:42, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
On 2025-12-16, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 16/12/2025 2:28 pm, c186282 wrote:
I guess the next decade's "automobiles" will be like a "Johnny Cab"
... YOU don't do anything but tell it where you want to go
Yeap, and it will be 'talking' to all the other vehicles so it will
decide how to get you to where you think you want to go.
Shades of 1969 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Hurricane
"Other features included Pathfinder, which used magnetic signals built >>>> into the road to guide the driver."
On the other hand, I once read a science fiction story where the
protagonist's self-driving car pulled off to the side of the road,
locked the doors, and refused to let him move until he bought
whatever was being advertised on the radio.-a (Fortunately for
him a friend passing by saw his predicament and rescued him.)
Wow.
I would think of smart tvs showing adverts, and if you do not pay
attention, something they know by photographing your eyes, they would
replay again and again the adverts before letting us watch the movie :-P
-a Oddly, heard on US news just the other day about
-a a self-driving car that got into a bit of a crash.
-a Its response was to lock the doors - "for the
-a passengers safety" - and they couldn't get out.
-a Emergency services had to crack the thing open ...
-a If the battery pack had lit off .......
On 19/12/2025 8:56 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-12-17 01:42, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
<Snip>
Certainly not.-a Otherwise, if they wanted you they would just make your >>> self-driving car lock the doors and take you to a secure police compound. >>>
"If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear."
Even if the definition of "wrong" can change retroactively?
On one Asimov tale, a character goes back in time several times, to
change life, but not his enemy, till a moment in the future where what
his enemy did sometime that was was praiseworthy becomes very bad
(because of his tiny changes of the timeline) and he is arrested.
But doesn't the "Back to the Future" trilogy of films prove that false??
He goes back to 1955 or so, changes things comes back to "present day"
but things are different.
On 19/12/2025 8:56 am, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-12-17 01:42, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
<Snip>
Certainly not.-a Otherwise, if they wanted you they would just make your >>> self-driving car lock the doors and take you to a secure police
compound.
"If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear."
Even if the definition of "wrong" can change retroactively?
On one Asimov tale, a character goes back in time several times, to
change life, but not his enemy, till a moment in the future where what
his enemy did sometime that was was praiseworthy becomes very bad
(because of his tiny changes of the timeline) and he is arrested.
But doesn't the "Back to the Future" trilogy of films prove that false??
He goes back to 1955 or so, changes things comes back to "present day"
but things are different.
On 2025-12-19 08:15, c186282 wrote:
On 12/18/25 16:56, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-12-17 01:42, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
On 2025-12-16, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 16/12/2025 2:28 pm, c186282 wrote:
I guess the next decade's "automobiles" will be like a "Johnny Cab" >>>>>> ... YOU don't do anything but tell it where you want to go
Yeap, and it will be 'talking' to all the other vehicles so it will
decide how to get you to where you think you want to go.
Shades of 1969 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Hurricane
"Other features included Pathfinder, which used magnetic signals built >>>>> into the road to guide the driver."
On the other hand, I once read a science fiction story where the
protagonist's self-driving car pulled off to the side of the road,
locked the doors, and refused to let him move until he bought
whatever was being advertised on the radio.-a (Fortunately for
him a friend passing by saw his predicament and rescued him.)
Wow.
I would think of smart tvs showing adverts, and if you do not pay
attention, something they know by photographing your eyes, they would
replay again and again the adverts before letting us watch the movie :-P
-a-a Oddly, heard on US news just the other day about
-a-a a self-driving car that got into a bit of a crash.
-a-a Its response was to lock the doors - "for the
-a-a passengers safety" - and they couldn't get out.
-a-a Emergency services had to crack the thing open ...
Gosh.
-a-a If the battery pack had lit off .......
Time is just an illusion of stupid little 3-D players.
On 12/19/25 09:42, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-12-19 08:15, c186282 wrote:
On 12/18/25 16:56, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-12-17 01:42, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
On 2025-12-16, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 16/12/2025 2:28 pm, c186282 wrote:
I guess the next decade's "automobiles" will be like a "Johnny Cab" >>>>>>> ... YOU don't do anything but tell it where you want to go
Yeap, and it will be 'talking' to all the other vehicles so it will >>>>>> decide how to get you to where you think you want to go.
Shades of 1969 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Hurricane
"Other features included Pathfinder, which used magnetic signals
built
into the road to guide the driver."
On the other hand, I once read a science fiction story where the
protagonist's self-driving car pulled off to the side of the road,
locked the doors, and refused to let him move until he bought
whatever was being advertised on the radio.-a (Fortunately for
him a friend passing by saw his predicament and rescued him.)
Wow.
I would think of smart tvs showing adverts, and if you do not pay
attention, something they know by photographing your eyes, they
would replay again and again the adverts before letting us watch the
movie :-P
-a-a Oddly, heard on US news just the other day about
-a-a a self-driving car that got into a bit of a crash.
-a-a Its response was to lock the doors - "for the
-a-a passengers safety" - and they couldn't get out.
-a-a Emergency services had to crack the thing open ...
Gosh.
-a And REAL ... I'll see if I can still find the exact article.
-a THESE are 'related' :
https://www.carscoops.com/2025/09/electric-door-handles-under-scrutiny- after-deadly-crashes/
https://www.hilliard-law.com/blog/2024/december/addressing-the-tragic- consequences-of-tesla-door/
-a Functionaries (+AI now) in the development chain sometimes
-a come to INSANE 'solutions' for dealing with little problems.
-a-a If the battery pack had lit off .......
-a I still THINK about that ..... 1500-degree flames, screaming,
-a little children horribly roasted to death .....
-a And connected corporate lawyers making it ALL go away.
-a Gasoline cars CAN be bad sometimes, but lithium
-a battery packs failing ......
-a IMHO, buy a diesel vehicle. A tad smokey, but ...
-a "Cheat Chips"/uploads that actually give good
-a performance allegedly CAN be had.
On 20/12/2025 06:32, c186282 wrote:
Time is just an illusion of stupid little 3-D players.
Which is an interesting philosophical position.
Most of the quantum problems arise because we consider time and space to
be absolutes, rather than simply a way a local observer structures his perception of the world.
No matter what advanced maths e.g. Penrose does, he is always trying to express quantum physics in terms of classical reality. Never the other
way around...
On 12/20/25 05:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/12/2025 06:32, c186282 wrote:
Time is just an illusion of stupid little 3-D players.
Which is an interesting philosophical position.
Most of the quantum problems arise because we consider time and space
to be absolutes, rather than simply a way a local observer structures
his perception of the world.
No matter what advanced maths e.g. Penrose does, he is always trying
to express quantum physics in terms of classical reality. Never the
other way around...
-a Is there any reason to think time, as generally viewed,
-a applies in dimensions 4-10 ???
-a There are a few "instantaneous" QM-related events, like
-a the resolution of entanglement. Doesn't matter if the
-a particles are across the universe - ZAP ! - so for those
-a kinds of events 'time' really doesn't exist.
-a Hmm ... maybe "as generally viewed" doesn't even apply
-a to dimensions 1-3 either. Consider the possibility that
-a time actually lurches back and forth rapidly, seconds,
-a days, aeons maybe, and only AVERAGES "ahead". Everything,
-a MAYbe the same, over and over and over. How would we know ? :-)
-a Oh, also worry about merging black holes. The closer you
-a get to the event horizon the slower time becomes, until
-a it's zero. The things shouldn't be able to EVER merge.
-a Yet, we get gravity-wave confirmations ...
On 21/12/2025 19:49, c186282 wrote:
On 12/20/25 05:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:It's just that people cannot get out of the habit of thinking that no
On 20/12/2025 06:32, c186282 wrote:
Time is just an illusion of stupid little 3-D players.
Which is an interesting philosophical position.
Most of the quantum problems arise because we consider time and space
to be absolutes, rather than simply a way a local observer structures
his perception of the world.
No matter what advanced maths e.g. Penrose does, he is always trying
to express quantum physics in terms of classical reality. Never the
other way around...
-a-a Is there any reason to think time, as generally viewed,
-a-a applies in dimensions 4-10 ???
matter how weird quantum equations are, the 'normal' world of human experience is the 'real world' and the quantum world is 'imaginary'...
...But what if it was the other way around?
There is no spoon ? :-)-a-a There are a few "instantaneous" QM-related events, likeI think you are beginning to see the problem.
-a-a the resolution of entanglement. Doesn't matter if the
-a-a particles are across the universe - ZAP ! - so for those
-a-a kinds of events 'time' really doesn't exist.
-a-a Hmm ... maybe "as generally viewed" doesn't even apply
-a-a to dimensions 1-3 either. Consider the possibility that
-a-a time actually lurches back and forth rapidly, seconds,
-a-a days, aeons maybe, and only AVERAGES "ahead". Everything,
-a-a MAYbe the same, over and over and over. How would we know ? :-)
Time organises data into causes and effects, but at a quantum level its
hard to say what causes effects.
If indeed *anything* does... Time and space may simply be a *transform*
of what is more easily understood as entanglememt, into 'our way of
looking at stuff'
On 12/20/25 05:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/12/2025 06:32, c186282 wrote:
Time is just an illusion of stupid little 3-D players.
Which is an interesting philosophical position.
Most of the quantum problems arise because we consider time and space
to be absolutes, rather than simply a way a local observer structures
his perception of the world.
No matter what advanced maths e.g. Penrose does, he is always trying
to express quantum physics in terms of classical reality. Never the
other way around...
-a Is there any reason to think time, as generally viewed,
-a applies in dimensions 4-10 ???
-a There are a few "instantaneous" QM-related events, like
-a the resolution of entanglement. Doesn't matter if the
-a particles are across the universe - ZAP ! - so for those
-a kinds of events 'time' really doesn't exist.
-a Hmm ... maybe "as generally viewed" doesn't even apply
-a to dimensions 1-3 either. Consider the possibility that
-a time actually lurches back and forth rapidly, seconds,
-a days, aeons maybe, and only AVERAGES "ahead". Everything,
-a MAYbe the same, over and over and over. How would we know ? :-)
-a Oh, also worry about merging black holes. The closer you
-a get to the event horizon the slower time becomes, until
-a it's zero. The things shouldn't be able to EVER merge.
-a Yet, we get gravity-wave confirmations ...
On 12/21/25 15:03, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 21/12/2025 19:49, c186282 wrote:-a There is no spoon ?-a-a :-)
On 12/20/25 05:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:It's just that people cannot get out of the habit of thinking that no
On 20/12/2025 06:32, c186282 wrote:
Time is just an illusion of stupid little 3-D players.
Which is an interesting philosophical position.
Most of the quantum problems arise because we consider time and
space to be absolutes, rather than simply a way a local observer
structures his perception of the world.
No matter what advanced maths e.g. Penrose does, he is always trying
to express quantum physics in terms of classical reality. Never the
other way around...
-a-a Is there any reason to think time, as generally viewed,
-a-a applies in dimensions 4-10 ???
matter how weird quantum equations are, the 'normal' world of human
experience is the 'real world' and the quantum world is 'imaginary'...
...But what if it was the other way around?
-a-a There are a few "instantaneous" QM-related events, likeI think you are beginning to see the problem.
-a-a the resolution of entanglement. Doesn't matter if the
-a-a particles are across the universe - ZAP ! - so for those
-a-a kinds of events 'time' really doesn't exist.
-a-a Hmm ... maybe "as generally viewed" doesn't even apply
-a-a to dimensions 1-3 either. Consider the possibility that
-a-a time actually lurches back and forth rapidly, seconds,
-a-a days, aeons maybe, and only AVERAGES "ahead". Everything,
-a-a MAYbe the same, over and over and over. How would we know ? :-)
Time organises data into causes and effects, but at a quantum level
its hard to say what causes effects.
If indeed *anything* does... Time and space may simply be a
*transform* of what is more easily understood as entanglememt, into
'our way of looking at stuff'
-a "Our way of looking at stuff" SERVES, well, nearly
-a a billion years.
There is no time.:-)
On 21/12/2025 21:39, c186282 wrote:
On 12/21/25 15:03, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 21/12/2025 19:49, c186282 wrote:-a-a There is no spoon ?-a-a :-)
On 12/20/25 05:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:It's just that people cannot get out of the habit of thinking that no
On 20/12/2025 06:32, c186282 wrote:
Time is just an illusion of stupid little 3-D players.
Which is an interesting philosophical position.
Most of the quantum problems arise because we consider time and
space to be absolutes, rather than simply a way a local observer
structures his perception of the world.
No matter what advanced maths e.g. Penrose does, he is always
trying to express quantum physics in terms of classical reality.
Never the other way around...
-a-a Is there any reason to think time, as generally viewed,
-a-a applies in dimensions 4-10 ???
matter how weird quantum equations are, the 'normal' world of human
experience is the 'real world' and the quantum world is 'imaginary'...
...But what if it was the other way around?
-a-a There are a few "instantaneous" QM-related events, likeI think you are beginning to see the problem.
-a-a the resolution of entanglement. Doesn't matter if the
-a-a particles are across the universe - ZAP ! - so for those
-a-a kinds of events 'time' really doesn't exist.
-a-a Hmm ... maybe "as generally viewed" doesn't even apply
-a-a to dimensions 1-3 either. Consider the possibility that
-a-a time actually lurches back and forth rapidly, seconds,
-a-a days, aeons maybe, and only AVERAGES "ahead". Everything,
-a-a MAYbe the same, over and over and over. How would we know ? :-)
Time organises data into causes and effects, but at a quantum level
its hard to say what causes effects.
If indeed *anything* does... Time and space may simply be a
*transform* of what is more easily understood as entanglememt, into
'our way of looking at stuff'
-a-a "Our way of looking at stuff" SERVES, well, nearly
-a-a a billion years.
There is no time :-)
On 12/22/25 07:56, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 21/12/2025 21:39, c186282 wrote:
There is no time :-)
-a Maybe not - and I listed a few concerns that make
-a me doubt 'time' ... or at least our traditional
-a view of it.
-a However that's "big picture" ... if you stand in
-a the middle of the motorway then that oncoming
-a lorry WILL run you down in a very predictable
-a number of seconds. The 'small picture' WILL getcha.
-a Likely at every dimension there's a very different
-a sort of "small picture", what is 'real', in a
-a practical sort of way. Doesn't matter if those
-a dimensions have deflated to micrometer thickness,
-a you'd never notice it.
-a I guess D-4 will eventually deflate to effectual
-a nothingness - which MAY totally trash a lot of
-a QM-related physics and turn our kind of dimension
-a into naught but photons or less. Without a
-a 'super-channel/dimension' the entanglement resolution
-a trick won't work anymore and likely LOTS of other
-a important things-a :-)
-a But it won't happen tomorrow.
-a But EVENTUALLY ... 'we'/whatever had better have a
-a damned good escape plan.
-a Before THAT ... Andromeda IS gonna shred/super-heat
-a OUR galaxy in about 4 billion years. Work on THAT
-a escape plan FIRST ! What's the nearest 'safe'
-a galaxy ?
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