last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200" <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to get their kids vaccinated.
On 2/26/2026 8:25 AM, dart200 wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,Who do you think you are anyway? A Medical Technician?
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
We'll need to see your license. Did you graduate from a community
college or from CVS?
On 2/26/26 9:31 AM, Dude wrote:
On 2/26/2026 8:25 AM, dart200 wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,Who do you think you are anyway? A Medical Technician?
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable
of doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
We'll need to see your license. Did you graduate from a community
college or from CVS?
lol dude, do u think it takes a medical degree to vote on medical policies???
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to get their >> kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
On Thu, 26 Feb 2026 14:57:49 -0800, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of >>>> doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to accomplish >>>>
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to get their >>> kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because it is so much easier to sell refrigerators to eskimos if they
have not been to university.
On 2/26/2026 2:58 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 9:31 AM, Dude wrote:So, I think, at a minimum, you'd need to be a US citizen in order to
On 2/26/2026 8:25 AM, dart200 wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,Who do you think you are anyway? A Medical Technician?
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable
of doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to accomplish >>>>
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
We'll need to see your license. Did you graduate from a community
college or from CVS?
lol dude, do u think it takes a medical degree to vote on medical
policies???
vote on US medical policies. But, we don't have direct voting in the US,
so good luck with that.
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to get
their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of >>>> doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to accomplish >>>>
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to get
their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal for
anyone else to do it.
It's a good thing the people didn't stand for that and pushed back.
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of >>>>> doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but >>>>> we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to get
their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal for
anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of >>>> doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to accomplish >>>>
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to get
their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal for
anyone else to do it.
It's a good thing the people didn't stand for that and pushed back.
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of >>>>> doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but >>>>> we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to get
their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal for
anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of >>>>>> doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but >>>>>> we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to get >>>>> their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal for
anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
On 27/02/2026 16:45, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of >>>>> doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but >>>>> we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to get
their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal for
anyone else to do it.
It's a good thing the people didn't stand for that and pushed back.
The UK government strictly controls education and health
and in order to avoid strikes it allows unions to fight
productivity advances and free market alternatives.
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but >>>>>> we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to
get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal for
anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
but imagine how popular an oxymoron can be EfyeEfyeEfye--
#god
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but >>>>>>> we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore >>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to
get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal for
anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these markets. should be "paid market solution",
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, >>>>>>>> but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore >>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to >>>>>>> get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
On 2/27/2026 12:20 PM, Julian wrote:
On 27/02/2026 16:45, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of >>>>>> doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but >>>>>> we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to get >>>>> their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal for
anyone else to do it.
It's a good thing the people didn't stand for that and pushed back.
The UK government strictly controls education and health
and in order to avoid strikes it allows unions to fight
productivity advances and free market alternatives.
England and the rest of Europe are not nations of free people.
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s, >>>>>>>>>Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are >>>>>>>>> capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to >>>>>>>>> accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore >>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to >>>>>>>> get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market solution" ... >>>
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and is not
a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. because
in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to actually
get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that of
one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s, >>>>>>>>>>Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are >>>>>>>>>> capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to >>>>>>>>>> accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore >>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to >>>>>>>>> get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal >>>>>>> for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market solution" ... >>>>
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the fuck
humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and is not
a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. because
in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to actually
get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that of
one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange as
they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they >aren't charging you. Meanwhile, the entire internet is the answer to
your question of the free market providing an unparalleled opportunity
for continuing education.
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s, >>>>>>>>>>
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are >>>>>>>>>> capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to >>>>>>>>>> accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication >>>>>>>>>> anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing >>>>>>>>> to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal >>>>>>> for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. because
in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to actually
get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange as
they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
aren't charging you. Meanwhile, the entire internet is the answer to
your question of the free market providing an unparalleled opportunity
for continuing education.
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s, >>>>>>>>>>>
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are >>>>>>>>>>> capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to >>>>>>>>>>> accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication >>>>>>>>>>> anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing >>>>>>>>>> to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal >>>>>>>> for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s, >>>>>>>>>>>>
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are >>>>>>>>>>>> capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to >>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication >>>>>>>>>>>> anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing >>>>>>>>>>> to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it
illegal for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization,
and is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s, >>>>>>>>>>>>>
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are >>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market >>>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication >>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are
refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it
illegal for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's >>>>> paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the >>>>> fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization,
and is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they >>>
Sure it is.
sure it's not
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s, >>>>>>>>>>>>
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are >>>>>>>>>>>> capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to >>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication >>>>>>>>>>>> anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing >>>>>>>>>>> to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal >>>>>>>>> for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and >>>> is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that >>>> of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:Sure it is.
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's >>>>>> paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the >>>>>> fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, >>>>>> and is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action >>>>>> to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange >>>>> as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system >>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they >>>>
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where >prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without government >intervention.
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease
eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven
organization, and is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action >>>>>>> to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely
exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were "rational" agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote:You made that up.
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's >>>>>>>>>>> paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the >>>>>>>>>>> fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange >>>>>>>>>> as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent. >>>>>>>
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market
economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of
association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice. >>>
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human
rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was
founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights
come first.
Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King of
England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to
be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not?
I really don't care what the official definition is. Wilson's
statements define it well enough for me.
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand. >>>>>> We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101:
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives
innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth >>>>>> through competition with limited government intervention.
Key word: Choices
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 14:47:45 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:19 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2026 12:55:05 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>You may not have thought this through. Libertarians are liberals.
wrote:
On 2/27/2026 12:20 PM, Julian wrote:
On 27/02/2026 16:45, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s, >>>>>>>>>Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to >>>>>>>>> accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but >>>>>>>>> we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore >>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to get >>>>>>>> their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal for >>>>>> anyone else to do it.
It's a good thing the people didn't stand for that and pushed back. >>>>>>
The UK government strictly controls education and health
and in order to avoid strikes it allows unions to fight
productivity advances and free market alternatives.
England and the rest of Europe are not nations of free people.
You mean they are not libertarians.
They established the basis of liberal political theory in the US:
people's rights existed before government and that the purpose of
government is to protect personal and property rights.
Liberal Libertarians believe that a representative form of government is
the best form to protect individual rights with a limited government,
low-taxation, and minimal state regulation.
Even if those libertarians happen to be exploiting the rights of
others. If necessary it is ok to define away the rights of those
others when they interfere with a libertarian's right to maximum
profit at minimum cost in business.
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>>>> wrote:You made that up.
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>>>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>>
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent. >>>>>>>>
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market
economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with >>>>> just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson. >>>>
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of
association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice. >>>>
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human
rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was
founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights
come first.
for different folks.
--Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King of
England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to >>> be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not?
I really don't care what the official definition is. Wilson's
statements define it well enough for me.
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand. >>>>>>> We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101:
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives
innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth >>>>>>> through competition with limited government intervention.
Key word: Choices
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>> motivated spot trading
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven
organization, and is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action >>>>>>>> to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely
exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market >theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so perceptive. Thanks.
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from university. >Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject--
for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 2/28/2026 2:52 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 14:47:45 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:19 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2026 12:55:05 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>You may not have thought this through. Libertarians are liberals.
wrote:
On 2/27/2026 12:20 PM, Julian wrote:
On 27/02/2026 16:45, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s, >>>>>>>>>>Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to >>>>>>>>>> accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but >>>>>>>>>> we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore >>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to get >>>>>>>>> their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal for >>>>>>> anyone else to do it.
It's a good thing the people didn't stand for that and pushed back. >>>>>>>
The UK government strictly controls education and health
and in order to avoid strikes it allows unions to fight
productivity advances and free market alternatives.
England and the rest of Europe are not nations of free people.
You mean they are not libertarians.
They established the basis of liberal political theory in the US:
people's rights existed before government and that the purpose of
government is to protect personal and property rights.
Liberal Libertarians believe that a representative form of government is >>> the best form to protect individual rights with a limited government,
low-taxation, and minimal state regulation.
Even if those libertarians happen to be exploiting the rights of
others. If necessary it is ok to define away the rights of those
others when they interfere with a libertarian's right to maximum
profit at minimum cost in business.
Obviously you made that up. It looks like you're tilting at windmills now.
Libertarians are liberals
your ideas are not only ill-informed but
conservative, even reactionary or extreme to say the least. Obviously, >you've not thought this through.
It's here now. Get used to it.
The United States was largely founded on classical liberal principles
that align closely with modern libertarianism, emphasizing limited >government, individual liberty, property rights, and the consent of the >governed in a representative government.
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>> motivated spot trading
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven
organization, and is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action >>>>>>>>> to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely
exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where >>>> prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were "rational" >>> agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected. That can't be true.
I know better than that.
As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don'talready know.
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from university.
Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject
for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>>>>> wrote:You made that up.
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication
anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>>>
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent. >>>>>>>>>
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market >>>>>> economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with >>>>>> just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson. >>>>>
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of
association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first.
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human >>>> rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was >>>> founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights
come first.
for different folks.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards.
Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King of
England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to >>>> be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not?
I really don't care what the official definition is. Wilson's
statements define it well enough for me.
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand. >>>>>>>> We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101:
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives >>>>>>>> innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth >>>>>>>> through competition with limited government intervention.
Key word: Choices
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven
organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action >>>>>>>>>> to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely
exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where >>>>> prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were "rational" >>>> agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards >>>> bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected. That can't be true.
I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just >confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your >nihilistic attitude.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. HeAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don'talready know.
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and >competition.
--Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from university. >>> Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject
for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:You made that up.
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication
anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>>>>
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent. >>>>>>>>>>
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market >>>>>>> economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with >>>>>>> just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson. >>>>>>
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of >>>>>>> association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first.
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human >>>>> rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was >>>>> founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights
come first.
for different folks.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards.
contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical >liberalismuadvocating limited government.
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal >freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free
enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peopleAs >personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and >personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring
about an ideal society.
--Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King of >>>>> England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to >>>>> be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not?
I really don't care what the official definition is. Wilson's
statements define it well enough for me.
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101:
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives >>>>>>>>> innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth >>>>>>>>> through competition with limited government intervention.
Key word: Choices
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven
organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action >>>>>>>>>> to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for >>>>>>>>>> it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely
exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where >>>>> prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were
"rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards >>>> bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so-a perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That can't be true.
I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your nihilistic attitude.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. HeAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don'talready know.
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and competition.
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from university. >>> Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject
for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published >>>> in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven
organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action >>>>>>>>>>> to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for >>>>>>>>>>> it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where >>>>>> prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were
"rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards >>>>> bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, soa perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.a That can't be true.
I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just
confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your
nihilistic attitude.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. HeAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don't >>> already know.
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases,
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up again
--
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from university. >>>> Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject
for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 22:16:01 -0800, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published >>>>> in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market >>>>> theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so-a perceptive. Thanks. >>>>
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action >>>>>>>>>>>> to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for >>>>>>>>>>>> it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>>
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where >>>>>>> prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were
"rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards >>>>>> bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That can't be true. >>>> I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just
confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your
nihilistic attitude.
> > As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don't >>>> already know.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases,
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up again
Nevermind, as long as I get muh freedom to do what I want with muh
body.
--
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from university. >>>>> Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject >>>>> for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 3/1/26 8:40 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 22:16:01 -0800, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published >>>>>> in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market >>>>>> theories, because they are so unusual and yet, soa perceptive. Thanks. >>>>>
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action >>>>>>>>>>>>> to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for >>>>>>>>>>>>> it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>>>
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where >>>>>>>> prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were
"rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards >>>>>>> bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.a That can't be true. >>>>> I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just >>>> confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your
nihilistic attitude.
> > As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don't
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he >>>> could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases,
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up again
Nevermind, as long as I get muh freedom to do what I want with muh
body.
gave up and decided to go down dude's path eh???
keep up the good work! ???--
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from university. >>>>>> Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject >>>>>> for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:16:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes >>>> for different folks.
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:You made that up.
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication
anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent. >>>>>>>>>>>
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market >>>>>>>> economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with >>>>>>>> just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson. >>>>>>>
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of >>>>>>>> association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first.
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human >>>>>> rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was >>>>>> founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights
come first.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards.
contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical
liberalismrCoadvocating limited government.
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal
freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free
enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peoplerCOs >> personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and
personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring
about an ideal society.
I say none of those are nearly so benevolently motivated as you
suppose. And it looks to me like you put a bunch of ideas in a
blender and turned it on.
Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King of >>>>>> England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to >>>>>> be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not?
I really don't care what the official definition is. Wilson's
statements define it well enough for me.
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101:
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives >>>>>>>>>> innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth >>>>>>>>>> through competition with limited government intervention.
Key word: Choices
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:01:07 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published >>>> in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven
organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action >>>>>>>>>>> to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where >>>>>> prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were "rational" >>>>> agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards >>>>> bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected. That can't be true.
I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just
confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your
nihilistic attitude.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. HeAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don'talready know.
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
That would be your opinion.
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from university. >>>> Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject
for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published >>>> in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in >>>>>>>>>>>>> these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven
organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven >>>>>>>>>>> action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering >>>>>>>>>>> for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or >>>>>>>>>> not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange,
where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were
"rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased
towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so-a perceptive. Thanks. >>>
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That can't be true.
I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's
just confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with
your nihilistic attitude.
don'tAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases,
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up again
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from
university.
Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject
for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:09:10 -0800, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 3/1/26 8:40 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 22:16:01 -0800, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could >>>>> have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just >>>>> confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That can't be true. >>>>>> I know better than that.
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published >>>>>>> in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market >>>>>>> theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so-a perceptive. Thanks. >>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>>>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were
"rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
nihilistic attitude.
> > As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don't
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he >>>>> could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases,
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up again
Nevermind, as long as I get muh freedom to do what I want with muh
body.
gave up and decided to go down dude's path eh???
It is not like you to not notice sarcasm.
keep up the good work! ???
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from university.
Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject >>>>>>> for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 2/28/2026 9:55 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:01:07 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Follow the science.
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published >>>>> in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market >>>>> theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so perceptive. Thanks. >>>>
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action >>>>>>>>>>>> to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>>>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>>
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where >>>>>>> prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were "rational" >>>>>> agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards >>>>>> bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected. That can't be true. >>>> I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just
confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your
nihilistic attitude.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. HeAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don't >>>> already know.
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
That would be your opinion.
--Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from university. >>>>> Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject >>>>> for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 3/1/2026 9:24 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:09:10 -0800, dart200Do fifth graders get sarcasm?
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 3/1/26 8:40 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 22:16:01 -0800, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:Nevermind, as long as I get muh freedom to do what I want with muh
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could >>>>>> have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just >>>>>> confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your >>>>>> nihilistic attitude.
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.a That can't be true. >>>>>>> I know better than that.
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were >>>>>>>>> "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market >>>>>>>> theories, because they are so unusual and yet, soa perceptive. Thanks. >>>>>>>
> > As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don't
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He >>>>>> doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he >>>>>> could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases,
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating diseases, >>>>> but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up again >>>>
body.
gave up and decided to go down dude's path eh???
It is not like you to not notice sarcasm.
It's your body. The government cannot force you to get injected with a
hypo. It's illegal. It's your body.
--keep up the good work! ???
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from university.
Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject >>>>>>>> for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 2/28/2026 10:16 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some scientific papers on that, Nick,
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published >>>>> in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market >>>>> theories, because they are so unusual and yet, soa perceptive. Thanks. >>>>
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven >>>>>>>>>>>> action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering >>>>>>>>>>>> for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or >>>>>>>>>>> not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, >>>>>>> where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were
"rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased
towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.a That can't be true. >>>> I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's
just confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with
your nihilistic attitude.
don'tAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases,
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up again
preferably reports in peer-reviewed journals by scientists. You may be >correct, but apparently most models agree that innovation and the free >market drive medical research. YMMV.--
There is a very high bar for posting medical analysis to this list.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Good work!
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from
university.
Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject >>>>> for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 2/28/2026 9:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:16:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:It kind of goes without saying that the signing of the US Constitution
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes >>>>> for different folks.
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>You made that up.
wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegalOn Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication
anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent. >>>>>>>>>>>>
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market >>>>>>>>> economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with >>>>>>>>> just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson. >>>>>>>>
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of >>>>>>>>> association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first.
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human >>>>>>> rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was >>>>>>> founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights >>>>>> come first.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards.
contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical
liberalismuadvocating limited government.
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal
freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free
enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peopleAs >>> personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and
personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring
about an ideal society.
I say none of those are nearly so benevolently motivated as you
suppose. And it looks to me like you put a bunch of ideas in a
blender and turned it on.
was a conspiracy against the King, you support, so obviously you're biased.
And, it could be seen as "a bunch of ideas in a blender and turned on."
You are free to state your opinion.
But, it's not really that complicated - any fifth grader knows about
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
"We the people..."
Are you sure you went to university?
We are going to need to see some documentation, because you're not
texting like a fifth grader. Thanks.
--
Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King of >>>>>>> England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to
be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not?
I really don't care what the official definition is. Wilson's
statements define it well enough for me.
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101:
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives >>>>>>>>>>> innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth >>>>>>>>>>> through competition with limited government intervention. >>>>>>>>>>>
Key word: Choices
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:54:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/1/2026 9:24 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:09:10 -0800, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 3/1/26 8:40 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 22:16:01 -0800, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:Nevermind, as long as I get muh freedom to do what I want with muh
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could >>>>>>> have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just >>>>>>> confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your >>>>>>> nihilistic attitude.
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were >>>>>>>>>> "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market >>>>>>>>> theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so-a perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That can't be true.
I know better than that.
> > As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don't
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He >>>>>>> doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he >>>>>>> could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and >>>>>>> competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases,
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating diseases, >>>>>> but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up again >>>>>
body.
gave up and decided to go down dude's path eh???
It is not like you to not notice sarcasm.
--Do fifth graders get sarcasm?
It's your body. The government cannot force you to get injected with a
hypo. It's illegal. It's your body.
Apply the sarcasm.
keep up the good work! ???
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from university.
Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject >>>>>>>>> for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 3/1/26 10:16 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:54:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/1/2026 9:24 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:09:10 -0800, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 3/1/26 8:40 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 22:16:01 -0800, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably >>>>>>>> could
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, >>>>>>>>>> published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more???
Because the State took over education and almost >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made it
illegal for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driven action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering for
it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not
attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary >>>>>>>>>>>> exchange, where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were >>>>>>>>>>> "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is >>>>>>>>>>> doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those >>>>>>>>>>> biased towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade >>>>>>>>>> market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so-a perceptive. >>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That can't >>>>>>>>> be true.
I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, >>>>>>>> he's just
confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your >>>>>>>> nihilistic attitude.
-a-a-a > > As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you
something you don't
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He >>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. >>>>>>>> Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and >>>>>>>> competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases, >>>>>>>
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating
diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up >>>>>>> again
Nevermind, as long as I get muh freedom to do what I want with muh >>>>>> body.
gave up and decided to go down dude's path eh???
It is not like you to not notice sarcasm.
apparently my sarcasm was even more subtle Efn+
Do fifth graders get sarcasm?
It's your body. The government cannot force you to get injected with a
hypo. It's illegal. It's your body.
Apply the sarcasm.
keep up the good work! ???
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from >>>>>>>>>> university.
Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this >>>>>>>>>> subject
for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:44:55 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 10:16 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some scientific papers on that, Nick,
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published >>>>>> in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market >>>>>> theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so-a perceptive. Thanks. >>>>>
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>> action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering >>>>>>>>>>>>> for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or >>>>>>>>>>>> not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, >>>>>>>> where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were
"rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased
towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That can't be true. >>>>> I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's
just confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with
your nihilistic attitude.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. HeAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you >>>> don'talready know.
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he >>>> could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases,
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up again
I think his point is well made according to the sources I choose to
read.
preferably reports in peer-reviewed journals by scientists. You may be
correct, but apparently most models agree that innovation and the free
market drive medical research. YMMV.
--
There is a very high bar for posting medical analysis to this list.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Good work!
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from
university.
Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject >>>>>> for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:44:55 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 10:16 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some scientific papers on that, Nick,
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published >>>>>> in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market >>>>>> theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so-a perceptive. Thanks. >>>>>
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>> action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering >>>>>>>>>>>>> for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or >>>>>>>>>>>> not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, >>>>>>>> where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were
"rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased
towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That can't be true. >>>>> I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's
just confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with
your nihilistic attitude.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. HeAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you >>>> don'talready know.
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he >>>> could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases,
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up again
I think his point is well made according to the sources I choose to
read.
preferably reports in peer-reviewed journals by scientists. You may be
correct, but apparently most models agree that innovation and the free
market drive medical research. YMMV.
There is a very high bar for posting medical analysis to this list.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Good work!
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from
university.
Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject >>>>>> for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 3/1/26 10:17 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:44:55 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 10:16 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some scientific papers on that, Nick,
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com>Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could >>>>> have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's
wrote:
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists,
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far >>>>>>>>>>>>>> below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or >>>>>>>>>>>>> not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on >>>>>>>>>>>> profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable >>>>>>>>>>>> to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, >>>>>>>>>>>>> even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free >>>>>>>>>>>> market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, >>>>>>>>> where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were
"rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased >>>>>>>> towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
published
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade
market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so-a perceptive. >>>>>>> Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That can't be >>>>>> true.
I know better than that.
just confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with
your nihilistic attitude.
-a-a> > As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you >>>>> don't
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he >>>>> could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases,
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up again
I think his point is well made according to the sources I choose to
read.
preferably reports in peer-reviewed journals by scientists. You may be
correct, but apparently most models agree that innovation and the free
market drive medical research. YMMV.
nignog u post random unjustified shit all day, every day...
so i feel no need to humor u
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There is a very high bar for posting medical analysis to this list.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Good work!
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:35:25 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 9:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:16:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:It kind of goes without saying that the signing of the US Constitution
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes >>>>>> for different folks.
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>You made that up.
wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication
anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market >>>>>>>>>> economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of >>>>>>>>>> association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first.
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human >>>>>>>> rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was
founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights >>>>>>> come first.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards.
contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical
liberalismrCoadvocating limited government.
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal >>>> freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free
enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peoplerCOs >>>> personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and
personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring
about an ideal society.
I say none of those are nearly so benevolently motivated as you
suppose. And it looks to me like you put a bunch of ideas in a
blender and turned it on.
was a conspiracy against the King, you support, so obviously you're biased.
Have you reached the depth of your absurdity yet? I expect not.
And, it could be seen as "a bunch of ideas in a blender and turned on."
You are free to state your opinion.
But, it's not really that complicated - any fifth grader knows about
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
"We the people..."
Are you sure you went to university?
We are going to need to see some documentation, because you're not
texting like a fifth grader. Thanks.
Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King of >>>>>>>> England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to
be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not?
I really don't care what the official definition is. Wilson's
statements define it well enough for me.
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101: >>>>>>>>>>>>
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives >>>>>>>>>>>> innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth >>>>>>>>>>>> through competition with limited government intervention. >>>>>>>>>>>>
Key word: Choices
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>You made that up.
wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market
system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated.-a Free is a word that hides his intent.
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market
economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101:
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives
innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth
through competition with limited government intervention.
Key word: Choices
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com>So, I'm sure you just made that up.
wrote:
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of >>>>>>> association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of >>>>>>> choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first.
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human >>>>> rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America >>>>> was
founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights
come first.
for different folks.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards.
contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical liberalismrCoadvocating limited government.
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free
enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peoplerCOs personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring
about an ideal society.
On 3/1/2026 10:17 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:44:55 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You can always support your point with information bias. The question
On 2/28/2026 10:16 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some scientific papers on that, Nick,
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could >>>>> have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.a That can't be true. >>>>>> I know better than that.
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published >>>>>>> in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market >>>>>>> theories, because they are so unusual and yet, soa perceptive. Thanks. >>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or >>>>>>>>>>>>> not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>>>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, >>>>>>>>> where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were
"rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased >>>>>>>> towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
just confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with
your nihilistic attitude.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. HeAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you >>>>> don'talready know.
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he >>>>> could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases,
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up again
I think his point is well made according to the sources I choose to
read.
is, does innovation and the free market drive medical research?
The answer is yes, innovation and free-market mechanisms are primary
drivers of medical research, particularly in the private sector where >competition for profits fuels the development of new drugs, medical
devices, and technology.
--preferably reports in peer-reviewed journals by scientists. You may be
correct, but apparently most models agree that innovation and the free
market drive medical research. YMMV.
There is a very high bar for posting medical analysis to this list.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Good work!
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from
university.
Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject >>>>>>> for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 3/1/2026 10:18 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:35:25 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Let's begin with the phrase ""We the People of the United States..."
On 2/28/2026 9:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:Have you reached the depth of your absurdity yet? I expect not.
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:16:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>It kind of goes without saying that the signing of the US Constitution
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes >>>>>>> for different folks.
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>You made that up.
wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication
anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market >>>>>>>>>>> economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of >>>>>>>>>>> association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first.
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human
rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was
founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights >>>>>>>> come first.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards.
contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical
liberalismuadvocating limited government.
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal >>>>> freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free
enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peopleAs >>>>> personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and >>>>> personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring >>>>> about an ideal society.
I say none of those are nearly so benevolently motivated as you
suppose. And it looks to me like you put a bunch of ideas in a
blender and turned it on.
was a conspiracy against the King, you support, so obviously you're biased. >>
We studied this in fifth grade:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect
Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the >common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of >Liberty..."
The key word is: Liberty
--And, it could be seen as "a bunch of ideas in a blender and turned on."
You are free to state your opinion.
But, it's not really that complicated - any fifth grader knows about
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
"We the people..."
Are you sure you went to university?
We are going to need to see some documentation, because you're not
texting like a fifth grader. Thanks.
Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King of >>>>>>>>> England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to
be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not?
I really don't care what the official definition is. Wilson's >>>>>>>> statements define it well enough for me.
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101: >>>>>>>>>>>>>
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives >>>>>>>>>>>>> innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth
through competition with limited government intervention. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Key word: Choices
On 3/1/2026 12:16 AM, Dude wrote:
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes >>>> for different folks.
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:So, I'm sure you just made that up.
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of >>>>>>>> association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of >>>>>>>> choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first.
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human >>>>>> rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America >>>>>> was
founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights
come first.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards.
contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical
liberalismuadvocating limited government.
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal
freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free
enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peopleAs
personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and
personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring
about an ideal society.
Exactly.
Noah lives in an unusual personal universe.
On 3/1/2026 10:17 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:44:55 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You can always support your point with information bias. The question
On 2/28/2026 10:16 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some scientific papers on that, Nick,
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com>Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could >>>>> have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's
wrote:
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists,
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far >>>>>>>>>>>>>> below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or >>>>>>>>>>>>> not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on >>>>>>>>>>>> profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable >>>>>>>>>>>> to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, >>>>>>>>>>>>> even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free >>>>>>>>>>>> market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, >>>>>>>>> where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were
"rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased >>>>>>>> towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
published
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade
market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so-a perceptive. >>>>>>> Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That can't be >>>>>> true.
I know better than that.
just confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with
your nihilistic attitude.
-a-a> > As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you >>>>> don't
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he >>>>> could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases,
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up again
I think his point is well made according to the sources I choose to
read.
is, does innovation and the free market drive medical research?
The answer is yes, innovation and free-market mechanisms are primary
drivers of medical research, particularly in the private sector where competition for profits fuels the development of new drugs, medical
devices, and technology.
preferably reports in peer-reviewed journals by scientists. You may be
correct, but apparently most models agree that innovation and the free
market drive medical research. YMMV.
There is a very high bar for posting medical analysis to this list.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Good work!
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from
university.
Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this
subject
for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 11:29:03 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/1/2026 10:18 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:35:25 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Let's begin with the phrase ""We the People of the United States..."
On 2/28/2026 9:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:16:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>It kind of goes without saying that the signing of the US Constitution >>>> was a conspiracy against the King, you support, so obviously you're biased.
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes >>>>>>>> for different folks.
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>You made that up.
wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication
anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent.
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market
economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of >>>>>>>>>>>> association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first.
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human
rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was
founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights >>>>>>>>> come first.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards.
contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical
liberalismrCoadvocating limited government.
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal >>>>>> freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free
enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peoplerCOs
personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and >>>>>> personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring >>>>>> about an ideal society.
I say none of those are nearly so benevolently motivated as you
suppose. And it looks to me like you put a bunch of ideas in a
blender and turned it on.
Have you reached the depth of your absurdity yet? I expect not.
We studied this in fifth grade:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect
Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the
common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of
Liberty..."
The key word is: Liberty
If they meant libertarianism, they would have said that.
And, it could be seen as "a bunch of ideas in a blender and turned on." >>>> You are free to state your opinion.
But, it's not really that complicated - any fifth grader knows about
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
"We the people..."
Are you sure you went to university?
We are going to need to see some documentation, because you're not
texting like a fifth grader. Thanks.
Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King of >>>>>>>>>> England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to
be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not?
I really don't care what the official definition is. Wilson's >>>>>>>>> statements define it well enough for me.
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives >>>>>>>>>>>>>> innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth
through competition with limited government intervention. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Key word: Choices
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:37:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 9:55 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:01:07 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Follow the science.
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published >>>>>> in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market >>>>>> theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so perceptive. Thanks. >>>>>
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action >>>>>>>>>>>>> to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>>>
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where >>>>>>>> prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards >>>>>>> bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected. That can't be true. >>>>> I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just >>>> confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your
nihilistic attitude.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. HeAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don't >>>>> already know.
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he >>>> could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
That would be your opinion.
I have followed lots of science. None of it leads me where you are.
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from university. >>>>>> Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject >>>>>> for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 3/1/2026 10:15 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:37:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:We are going to need to see some documentation backing that assertion
On 2/28/2026 9:55 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:01:07 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Follow the science.
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could >>>>> have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just >>>>> confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected. That can't be true. >>>>>> I know better than that.
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published >>>>>>> in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market >>>>>>> theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so perceptive. Thanks. >>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if >>>>>>>>>>>>> they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
nihilistic attitude.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. HeAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don't >>>>>> already know.
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he >>>>> could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
That would be your opinion.
I have followed lots of science. None of it leads me where you are.
up. You have not been known to follow science.
--
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from university.
Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject >>>>>>> for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 3/1/2026 12:49 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 11:29:03 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Did you study the Bill of Rights in school?
On 3/1/2026 10:18 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:35:25 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Let's begin with the phrase ""We the People of the United States..."
On 2/28/2026 9:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:16:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>It kind of goes without saying that the signing of the US Constitution >>>>> was a conspiracy against the King, you support, so obviously you're biased.
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>You made that up.
wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication
anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent.
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market
economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of >>>>>>>>>>>>> association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first. >>>>>>>>>>>>
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human
rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was
founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights >>>>>>>>>> come first.
for different folks.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards.
contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical
liberalismuadvocating limited government.
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal >>>>>>> freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free
enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peopleAs
personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and >>>>>>> personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring >>>>>>> about an ideal society.
I say none of those are nearly so benevolently motivated as you
suppose. And it looks to me like you put a bunch of ideas in a
blender and turned it on.
Have you reached the depth of your absurdity yet? I expect not.
We studied this in fifth grade:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect
Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the
common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of >>> Liberty..."
The key word is: Liberty
If they meant libertarianism, they would have said that.
--
And, it could be seen as "a bunch of ideas in a blender and turned on." >>>>> You are free to state your opinion.
But, it's not really that complicated - any fifth grader knows about >>>>> George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
"We the people..."
Are you sure you went to university?
We are going to need to see some documentation, because you're not
texting like a fifth grader. Thanks.
Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King of
England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to
be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not?
I really don't care what the official definition is. Wilson's >>>>>>>>>> statements define it well enough for me.
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth
through competition with limited government intervention. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Key word: Choices
On 3/1/26 10:57 AM, Dude wrote:
On 3/1/2026 10:17 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:44:55 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You can always support your point with information bias. The question
On 2/28/2026 10:16 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some scientific papers on that, Nick,
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could >>>>>> have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's >>>>>> just confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with >>>>>> your nihilistic attitude.
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, >>>>>>>> published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more???
Because the State took over education and almost >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made it
illegal for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on >>>>>>>>>>>>> profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable >>>>>>>>>>>>> to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free >>>>>>>>>>>>> market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, >>>>>>>>>> where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were >>>>>>>>> "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased >>>>>>>>> towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade >>>>>>>> market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so-a perceptive. >>>>>>>> Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That can't be >>>>>>> true.
I know better than that.
-a-a> > As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you >>>>>> don't
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He >>>>>> doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory.
Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases,
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating diseases, >>>>> but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up again >>>>>
I think his point is well made according to the sources I choose to
read.
is, does innovation and the free market drive medical research?
The answer is yes, innovation and free-market mechanisms are primary
drivers of medical research, particularly in the private sector where
competition for profits fuels the development of new drugs, medical
devices, and technology.
pure market fundie fluff, one that will stamp itself out this century
due to the sheer absurdity it's driving in the market
yes humans still manage to innovate under profit motive, but
profitability is not the same thing as a good for consumers. extreme profitability requires a solution that can be packaged up, controlled,
and exchanged in large distribution schemes... but not all the best solutions fit that one mold. some do, but certainly not all
like i just kinda did away with my persistent allergies that have been plaguing me for like 4 years now, after *one month* of joining a
crossfit gym. costs me $250/mo at a locally owned gym. totally
unexpected benefit that not even they could have tried to sell me on
and that's vs vials of allergy shots which cost *way* more than that,
and take way longer to work...
and i get other health benefits. like having more energy. which i'm sure they could sell me more pills for, but like. those 100% don't work as
well, i've already tried adhd meds long ago
god only knows how many cheaper, more effective remedies we aren't
pursuing cause all the innovation is mostly tied up for egregious profit systems
luckily the govt still exists to give grants out which don't require to
turn a profit, and that will still drive somewhat the riskiest and low- profitable innovations
but it's certainly not as much as we could be doing
preferably reports in peer-reviewed journals by scientists. You may be >>>> correct, but apparently most models agree that innovation and the free >>>> market drive medical research. YMMV.
There is a very high bar for posting medical analysis to this list.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Good work!
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from
university.
Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this >>>>>>>> subject
for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 15:18:20 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/1/2026 12:49 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 11:29:03 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Did you study the Bill of Rights in school?
On 3/1/2026 10:18 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:35:25 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Let's begin with the phrase ""We the People of the United States..."
On 2/28/2026 9:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:16:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>It kind of goes without saying that the signing of the US Constitution >>>>>> was a conspiracy against the King, you support, so obviously you're biased.
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a >>>>>>>> contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical >>>>>>>> liberalismrCoadvocating limited government.
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>You made that up.
wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication
anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent.
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market
economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of
association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human
rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was
founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights >>>>>>>>>>> come first.
for different folks.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards.
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal
freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free >>>>>>>> enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peoplerCOs
personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and >>>>>>>> personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring >>>>>>>> about an ideal society.
I say none of those are nearly so benevolently motivated as you
suppose. And it looks to me like you put a bunch of ideas in a
blender and turned it on.
Have you reached the depth of your absurdity yet? I expect not.
We studied this in fifth grade:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect
Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the >>>> common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of >>>> Liberty..."
The key word is: Liberty
If they meant libertarianism, they would have said that.
Also not libertarian.
And, it could be seen as "a bunch of ideas in a blender and turned on." >>>>>> You are free to state your opinion.
But, it's not really that complicated - any fifth grader knows about >>>>>> George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
"We the people..."
Are you sure you went to university?
We are going to need to see some documentation, because you're not >>>>>> texting like a fifth grader. Thanks.
Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King of
England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to
be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not?
I really don't care what the official definition is. Wilson's >>>>>>>>>>> statements define it well enough for me.
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth
through competition with limited government intervention. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Key word: Choices
On 3/1/2026 4:24 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 15:18:20 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:The Bill of Rights is a libertarian document inspired by libertarians.
On 3/1/2026 12:49 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 11:29:03 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Did you study the Bill of Rights in school?
On 3/1/2026 10:18 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:35:25 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Let's begin with the phrase ""We the People of the United States..." >>>>>
On 2/28/2026 9:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:16:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>It kind of goes without saying that the signing of the US Constitution >>>>>>> was a conspiracy against the King, you support, so obviously you're biased.
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a >>>>>>>>> contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical >>>>>>>>> liberalismuadvocating limited government.
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:You made that up.
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication
anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent.
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market
economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of
association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human
rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was
founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights
come first.
for different folks.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards.
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal
freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free >>>>>>>>> enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peopleAs
personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and >>>>>>>>> personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring >>>>>>>>> about an ideal society.
I say none of those are nearly so benevolently motivated as you >>>>>>>> suppose. And it looks to me like you put a bunch of ideas in a >>>>>>>> blender and turned it on.
Have you reached the depth of your absurdity yet? I expect not.
We studied this in fifth grade:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect >>>>> Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the >>>>> common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of >>>>> Liberty..."
The key word is: Liberty
If they meant libertarianism, they would have said that.
Also not libertarian.
It aligns closely with modern libertarian principles of individual
liberty and freedom.
We studied this in school.
The Bill of Rights is widely considered a foundational classical liberal
or libertarian document because it explicitly restricts government power
to protect individual liberty.
It champions freedoms of speech, religion, and assembly, while providing >procedural rights that safeguard against government overreach.
Bill of Rights key points:
1. It protects natural rights to freedom of action that exist before >government.
2. The document was created to ensure the federal government remained >limited.
3. A powerful statement against government interference in personal life.
--
And, it could be seen as "a bunch of ideas in a blender and turned on." >>>>>>> You are free to state your opinion.
But, it's not really that complicated - any fifth grader knows about >>>>>>> George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
"We the people..."
Are you sure you went to university?
We are going to need to see some documentation, because you're not >>>>>>> texting like a fifth grader. Thanks.
Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King ofI really don't care what the official definition is. Wilson's >>>>>>>>>>>> statements define it well enough for me.
England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to
be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not? >>>>>>>>>>>>
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives
innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth
through competition with limited government intervention. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Key word: Choices
On 3/1/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 3/1/26 10:57 AM, Dude wrote:Vaccines are the primary tool for eradicating disease, as they create
On 3/1/2026 10:17 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:44:55 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You can always support your point with information bias. The question
On 2/28/2026 10:16 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some scientific papers on that, Nick,
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could >>>>>>> have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's >>>>>>> just confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with >>>>>>> your nihilistic attitude.
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, >>>>>>>>> published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more???
Because the State took over education and almost >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made it
illegal for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchanged or
not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free >>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, >>>>>>>>>>> where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were >>>>>>>>>> "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased >>>>>>>>>> towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade >>>>>>>>> market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so-a perceptive. >>>>>>>>> Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That can't be >>>>>>>> true.
I know better than that.
-a-a> > As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something >>>>>>> you
don't
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He >>>>>>> doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory.
Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and >>>>>>> competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases,
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating diseases, >>>>>> but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up again >>>>>>
I think his point is well made according to the sources I choose to
read.
is, does innovation and the free market drive medical research?
The answer is yes, innovation and free-market mechanisms are primary
drivers of medical research, particularly in the private sector where
competition for profits fuels the development of new drugs, medical
devices, and technology.
pure market fundie fluff, one that will stamp itself out this century
due to the sheer absurdity it's driving in the market
herd immunity where enough people are immune to stop the spread.
Follow the science, Nick.
It's not child abuse to have your kids vaccinated.
yes humans still manage to innovate under profit motive, but
profitability is not the same thing as a good for consumers. extreme
profitability requires a solution that can be packaged up, controlled,
and exchanged in large distribution schemes... but not all the best
solutions fit that one mold. some do, but certainly not all
like i just kinda did away with my persistent allergies that have been
plaguing me for like 4 years now, after *one month* of joining a
crossfit gym. costs me $250/mo at a locally owned gym. totally
unexpected benefit that not even they could have tried to sell me on
and that's vs vials of allergy shots which cost *way* more than that,
and take way longer to work...
and i get other health benefits. like having more energy. which i'm
sure they could sell me more pills for, but like. those 100% don't
work as well, i've already tried adhd meds long ago
god only knows how many cheaper, more effective remedies we aren't
pursuing cause all the innovation is mostly tied up for egregious
profit systems
luckily the govt still exists to give grants out which don't require
to turn a profit, and that will still drive somewhat the riskiest and
low- profitable innovations
but it's certainly not as much as we could be doing
preferably reports in peer-reviewed journals by scientists. You may be >>>>> correct, but apparently most models agree that innovation and the free >>>>> market drive medical research. YMMV.
There is a very high bar for posting medical analysis to this list.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Good work!
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from >>>>>>>>> university.
Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this >>>>>>>>> subject
for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 3/2/2026 12:12 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 11:50:59 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/1/2026 4:23 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 15:24:23 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:What university was that?
On 3/1/2026 10:15 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:37:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>We are going to need to see some documentation backing that assertion >>>>> up. You have not been known to follow science.
On 2/28/2026 9:55 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:01:07 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Follow the science.
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could >>>>>>>>> have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it
illegal for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected. That can't be true.
I know better than that.
confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your >>>>>>>>> nihilistic attitude.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He >>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe heAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don'talready know.
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and >>>>>>>>> competition.
That would be your opinion.
I have followed lots of science. None of it leads me where you are. >>>>>>
My profs thought otherwise.
That is something I am not going to put here. You can accept that or
don't. Not my problem. And since I have moved on to being a
programmer, I don't care if you are hiring.
So, I looked it up using Google.
"The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition."
No that would be by vaccination.
Vaccines are primarily designed to prevent a disease from occurring, not
to cure an established illness. But, the free market is the way disease
is eradicated - innovation and competition.
Except the last time I got a dose, polio was by sugar cube.>Good job! You took the medicine. And, nobody forced you to take it. It's >your right to self medicate, or not, and make decisions on your own
health. It's your body. Your mind.
On 3/2/26 11:43 AM, Dude wrote:
On 3/2/2026 9:54 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 3/2/26 9:20 AM, Dude wrote:It's your body, Nick. You have your rights. In the US, you can't force
On 3/1/2026 10:32 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 3/1/26 4:27 PM, Dude wrote:On the other hand, Nick, preventing your child from getting
On 3/1/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 3/1/26 10:57 AM, Dude wrote:Vaccines are the primary tool for eradicating disease, as they
On 3/1/2026 10:17 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:44:55 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:You can always support your point with information bias. The
On 2/28/2026 10:16 PM, dart200 wrote:I think his point is well made according to the sources I
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some scientific papers on that, Nick, >>>>>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, DudeNick could change his mind and become an optimist. He >>>>>>>>>>>> probably could
<punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> economists, published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last time we eradicated a disease was small >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pox in the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped what govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the free
market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people are
refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people more???
Because the State took over education and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost made it
illegal for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free in
these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driven
organization, and is not a success of free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driven
action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering
for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freely
exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchanged or
not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange,
where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
"rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biased
towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free >>>>>>>>>>>>>> trade market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so >>>>>>>>>>>>>> perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is >>>>>>>>>>>>> presented
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't be true.
I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. >>>>>>>>>>>> Now, he's
just confused and you're not helping him out of his
depression with
your nihilistic attitude.
-a-a> > As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you >>>>>>>>>>>> something you
don't
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to
university. He
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main >>>>>>>>>>>> theory. Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics. >>>>>>>>>>>>
The free market is the way disease is eradicated -
innovation and
competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases, >>>>>>>>>>>
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about, >>>>>>>>>>>
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating >>>>>>>>>>> diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back >>>>>>>>>>> up again
choose to
read.
question is, does innovation and the free market drive medical >>>>>>>> research?
The answer is yes, innovation and free-market mechanisms are
primary drivers of medical research, particularly in the private >>>>>>>> sector where competition for profits fuels the development of >>>>>>>> new drugs, medical devices, and technology.
pure market fundie fluff, one that will stamp itself out this
century due to the sheer absurdity it's driving in the market
create herd immunity where enough people are immune to stop the
spread.
i love it when u admit u have no coherent response by injecting
some random ass barely relevant fact dude
vaccinated could be seen by some as child abuse. YMMV.
i love it when u admin u have no coherent response by make random
accusation
anyone to take medications or get a hypo in the ass. Not sure about
the Philippines.
irrelevant
You have a right to deny internal medications that are forced upon
i just got my updated tdap + pneumonia vaccine u child abuser, why
would not vaccinate my child?
you, that's the point, Nick.
irrelevant
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On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 12:57:04 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/2/2026 12:12 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 11:50:59 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Vaccines are primarily designed to prevent a disease from occurring, not
On 3/1/2026 4:23 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 15:24:23 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>What university was that?
On 3/1/2026 10:15 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:37:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>We are going to need to see some documentation backing that assertion >>>>>> up. You have not been known to follow science.
On 2/28/2026 9:55 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:01:07 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Follow the science.
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could >>>>>>>>>> have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it
illegal for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>>>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>>>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected. That can't be true.
I know better than that.
confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your >>>>>>>>>> nihilistic attitude.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He >>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe heAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don'talready know.
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and >>>>>>>>>> competition.
That would be your opinion.
I have followed lots of science. None of it leads me where you are. >>>>>>>
My profs thought otherwise.
That is something I am not going to put here. You can accept that or
don't. Not my problem. And since I have moved on to being a
programmer, I don't care if you are hiring.
So, I looked it up using Google.
"The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition."
No that would be by vaccination.
to cure an established illness. But, the free market is the way disease
is eradicated - innovation and competition.
And eradication of a disease would probably be for a communicable
disease. So the way to eradicate it would be to prevent it by
vaccination.
Innovation and competition. That is the official conservative dogma.
n practice both are too risky and expensive for huge corps to botherwith.
Let little startups take the risk and if their idea works, buy thestartup. Much cheaper that way.
And as for competition, in spite of what they say, big corps hate the
idea, that is why they are constantly trying to buy each other.
Competition reduces profit. Can't put up with that.
On 3/2/2026 3:07 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 12:57:04 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Competition is a major driver of innovation by forcing companies to
On 3/2/2026 12:12 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 11:50:59 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Vaccines are primarily designed to prevent a disease from occurring, not >>> to cure an established illness. But, the free market is the way disease
On 3/1/2026 4:23 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 15:24:23 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>What university was that?
On 3/1/2026 10:15 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:37:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:We are going to need to see some documentation backing that
On 2/28/2026 9:55 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:01:07 -0800, DudeFollow the science.
<punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, DudeNick could change his mind and become an optimist. He
<punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last time we eradicated a disease was small >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pox in the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the free market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people are
refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people more???
Because the State took over education and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost made it
illegal for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driven action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freely
exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange, where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those >>>>>>>>>>>>>> biased towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
economists, published
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free >>>>>>>>>>>>> trade market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so
perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is >>>>>>>>>>>> presented
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That >>>>>>>>>>>> can't be true.
I know better than that.
probably could
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, >>>>>>>>>>> he's just
confused and you're not helping him out of his depression >>>>>>>>>>> with your
nihilistic attitude.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return toAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something >>>>>>>>>>>>> you don'talready know.
university. He
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation >>>>>>>>>>> and
competition.
That would be your opinion.
I have followed lots of science.-a None of it leads me where you >>>>>>>> are.
assertion
up. You have not been known to follow science.
My profs thought otherwise.
That is something I am not going to put here.-a You can accept that or >>>> don't.-a Not my problem.-a And since I have moved on to being a
programmer, I don't care if you are hiring.
So, I looked it up using Google.
"The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition."
No that would be by vaccination.
is eradicated - innovation and competition.
And eradication of a disease would probably be for a communicable
disease.-a So the way to eradicate it would be to prevent it by
vaccination.
Innovation and competition. That is the official conservative dogma.
differentiate, improve efficiency, and meet evolving consumer demands to maintain market share.
--Excessive, intense competition can sometimes lead to a "race-to-the-n practice both are too risky and expensive for huge corps to botherwith.
bottom" or reduced investment in long-term R&D.
Competition encourages "outside the box" thinking and rapidLet little startups take the risk and if their idea works, buy thestartup.-a Much cheaper that way.
And as for competition, in spite of what they say, big corps hate the
idea, that is why they are constantly trying to buy each other.
Competition reduces profit.-a Can't put up with that.
advancements, such as in the automotive industry.
On 3/2/26 4:05 PM, Dude wrote:
On 3/2/2026 3:07 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 12:57:04 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Competition is a major driver of innovation by forcing companies to
On 3/2/2026 12:12 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 11:50:59 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Vaccines are primarily designed to prevent a disease from occurring,
On 3/1/2026 4:23 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 15:24:23 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com>What university was that?
wrote:
On 3/1/2026 10:15 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:37:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:We are going to need to see some documentation backing that
On 2/28/2026 9:55 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:01:07 -0800, DudeFollow the science.
<punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, DudeNick could change his mind and become an optimist. He >>>>>>>>>>>> probably could
<punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> economists, published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last time we eradicated a disease was small >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pox in the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped what govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the free market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people are
refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people more???
Because the State took over education and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost made it
illegal for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driven
organization, and is not a success of free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driven action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freely
exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange, where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biased towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free >>>>>>>>>>>>>> trade market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so >>>>>>>>>>>>>> perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is >>>>>>>>>>>>> presented
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't be true.
I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. >>>>>>>>>>>> Now, he's just
confused and you're not helping him out of his depression >>>>>>>>>>>> with your
nihilistic attitude.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return toAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> something you don'talready know.
university. He
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main >>>>>>>>>>>> theory. Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics. >>>>>>>>>>>>
The free market is the way disease is eradicated -
innovation and
competition.
That would be your opinion.
I have followed lots of science.-a None of it leads me where you >>>>>>>>> are.
assertion
up. You have not been known to follow science.
My profs thought otherwise.
That is something I am not going to put here.-a You can accept that or >>>>> don't.-a Not my problem.-a And since I have moved on to being a
programmer, I don't care if you are hiring.
So, I looked it up using Google.
"The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and >>>>>> competition."
No that would be by vaccination.
not
to cure an established illness. But, the free market is the way disease >>>> is eradicated - innovation and competition.
And eradication of a disease would probably be for a communicable
disease.-a So the way to eradicate it would be to prevent it by
vaccination.
Innovation and competition. That is the official conservative dogma.
literally rat-infested garbage platitude
innovation is driven by human ingenuity and desire to solve problems,
something which profit motive can easily squash as profit motive is
about selling as many solutions as possible, not actually solving the problem
differentiate, improve efficiency, and meet evolving consumer demands
to maintain market share.
which u can't even imagine since ur too busy copy pasting the same idea
over and over again with little coherency or critical thot
take it to the grave bro, we all know u will
Excessive, intense competition can sometimes lead to a "race-to-the-n practice both are too risky and expensive for huge corps to bother >>> with.
bottom" or reduced investment in long-term R&D.
Competition encourages "outside the box" thinking and rapidLet little startups take the risk and if their idea works, buy thestartup.-a Much cheaper that way.
And as for competition, in spite of what they say, big corps hate the
idea, that is why they are constantly trying to buy each other.
Competition reduces profit.-a Can't put up with that.
advancements, such as in the automotive industry.
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 11:30:58 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/2/2026 9:10 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 08:24:39 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Apparently, you've not thought this over for awhile, since maybe 5th
On 3/1/2026 8:37 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 16:36:11 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>It looks like you're not passing junior college government class this
On 3/1/2026 4:24 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 15:18:20 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>The Bill of Rights is a libertarian document inspired by libertarians. >>>>>> It aligns closely with modern libertarian principles of individual >>>>>> liberty and freedom.
On 3/1/2026 12:49 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 11:29:03 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>Did you study the Bill of Rights in school?
On 3/1/2026 10:18 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:35:25 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Let's begin with the phrase ""We the People of the United States..." >>>>>>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 9:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:16:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:It kind of goes without saying that the signing of the US Constitution
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical >>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberalismrCoadvocating limited government.
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
You really like to paint with a large brush! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:You made that up.
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication
anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kids vaccinated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent.
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market
economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of
association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human
rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was
founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights
come first.
for different folks.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal
freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peoplerCOs
personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and
personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring
about an ideal society.
I say none of those are nearly so benevolently motivated as you >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose. And it looks to me like you put a bunch of ideas in a >>>>>>>>>>>>> blender and turned it on.
was a conspiracy against the King, you support, so obviously you're biased.
Have you reached the depth of your absurdity yet? I expect not. >>>>>>>>>>>
We studied this in fifth grade:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect >>>>>>>>>> Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the
common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of
Liberty..."
The key word is: Liberty
If they meant libertarianism, they would have said that.
Also not libertarian.
We studied this in school.
The Bill of Rights is widely considered a foundational classical liberal >>>>>> or libertarian document because it explicitly restricts government power >>>>>> to protect individual liberty.
Sorry liberal does not equal libertarian. Even if you say it again. >>>>>
semester!
The word "libertarian" comes from the word "liberty
No doubt they share an etymology. That does not make them the same.
grade? Libertarians support liberty.
I thought we were talking about liberals. You snuck that one by me.
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On 3/2/2026 12:15 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 11:30:58 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:The word liberty comes from the word libre, which means liberal in
On 3/2/2026 9:10 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 08:24:39 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Apparently, you've not thought this over for awhile, since maybe 5th
On 3/1/2026 8:37 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 16:36:11 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>It looks like you're not passing junior college government class this >>>>> semester!
On 3/1/2026 4:24 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 15:18:20 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>The Bill of Rights is a libertarian document inspired by libertarians. >>>>>>> It aligns closely with modern libertarian principles of individual >>>>>>> liberty and freedom.
On 3/1/2026 12:49 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 11:29:03 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Did you study the Bill of Rights in school?
On 3/1/2026 10:18 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:35:25 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Let's begin with the phrase ""We the People of the United States..."
On 2/28/2026 9:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:16:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:It kind of goes without saying that the signing of the US Constitution
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberalismuadvocating limited government.
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
You really like to paint with a large brush! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:You made that up.
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication
anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kids vaccinated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent.
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market
economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of
association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human
rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was
founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights
come first.
for different folks.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal
freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peopleAs
personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and
personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring
about an ideal society.
I say none of those are nearly so benevolently motivated as you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose. And it looks to me like you put a bunch of ideas in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blender and turned it on.
was a conspiracy against the King, you support, so obviously you're biased.
Have you reached the depth of your absurdity yet? I expect not. >>>>>>>>>>>>
We studied this in fifth grade:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect
Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the
common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of
Liberty..."
The key word is: Liberty
If they meant libertarianism, they would have said that.
Also not libertarian.
We studied this in school.
The Bill of Rights is widely considered a foundational classical liberal
or libertarian document because it explicitly restricts government power
to protect individual liberty.
Sorry liberal does not equal libertarian. Even if you say it again. >>>>>>
The word "libertarian" comes from the word "liberty
No doubt they share an etymology. That does not make them the same.
grade? Libertarians support liberty.
I thought we were talking about liberals. You snuck that one by me.
Latin. Didn't they teach you to read in 5th grade? Or, at Sunday school,--
so you could understand the Mass?
You might consider taking an online refresher course in Political
Science, or looking it up online. Key in:
IF liberty THEN libertarian ELSE libre
On 3/2/2026 4:09 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 3/2/26 4:05 PM, Dude wrote:It's all about choices, Nick.
On 3/2/2026 3:07 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 12:57:04 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Competition is a major driver of innovation by forcing companies to
On 3/2/2026 12:12 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 11:50:59 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Vaccines are primarily designed to prevent a disease from
On 3/1/2026 4:23 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 15:24:23 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:What university was that?
On 3/1/2026 10:15 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:37:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:We are going to need to see some documentation backing that >>>>>>>>> assertion
On 2/28/2026 9:55 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:01:07 -0800, DudeFollow the science.
<punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, DudeNick could change his mind and become an optimist. He >>>>>>>>>>>>> probably could
<punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economists, published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last time we eradicated a disease was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small pox in thePreviously 'eradicated' diseases are coming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back because...
1980s,
since then free market fundies have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the free market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disease
eradication anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people are
refusing to get their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people more???
Because the State took over education and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost made it
illegal for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driven
organization, and is not a success of free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market driven action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to freely
exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange, where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biased towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trade market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> presented
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't be true.
I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, he's just
confused and you're not helping him out of his depression >>>>>>>>>>>>> with your
nihilistic attitude.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to >>>>>>>>>>>>> university. HeAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something you don'talready know.
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main >>>>>>>>>>>>> theory. Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
The free market is the way disease is eradicated -
innovation and
competition.
That would be your opinion.
I have followed lots of science.-a None of it leads me where >>>>>>>>>> you are.
up. You have not been known to follow science.
My profs thought otherwise.
That is something I am not going to put here.-a You can accept that or >>>>>> don't.-a Not my problem.-a And since I have moved on to being a
programmer, I don't care if you are hiring.
So, I looked it up using Google.
"The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and >>>>>>> competition."
No that would be by vaccination.
occurring, not
to cure an established illness. But, the free market is the way
disease
is eradicated - innovation and competition.
And eradication of a disease would probably be for a communicable
disease.-a So the way to eradicate it would be to prevent it by
vaccination.
Innovation and competition. That is the official conservative dogma.
literally rat-infested garbage platitude
There's no market without competition. Otherwise you've got a state monopoly.innovation is driven by human ingenuity and desire to solve problems,
something which profit motive can easily squash as profit motive is
about selling as many solutions as possible, not actually solving the
problem
differentiate, improve efficiency, and meet evolving consumer demands
to maintain market share.
which u can't even imagine since ur too busy copy pasting the same
idea over and over again with little coherency or critical thot
take it to the grave bro, we all know u willOver my dead body!
bothern practice both are too risky and expensive for huge corps to
with.Excessive, intense competition can sometimes lead to a "race-to-the-
bottom" or reduced investment in long-term R&D.
Competition encourages "outside the box" thinking and rapidLet little startups take the risk and if their idea works, buy the >>>> startup.-a Much cheaper that way.
And as for competition, in spite of what they say, big corps hate the
idea, that is why they are constantly trying to buy each other.
Competition reduces profit.-a Can't put up with that.
advancements, such as in the automotive industry.
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s, >>>>>>>>>>>>>
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are >>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to >>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication >>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing >>>>>>>>>>>> to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal >>>>>>>>>> for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and >>>>> is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to >>>>> actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that >>>>> of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent.
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal >>>>>>>>>>> for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing >>>>>>>>>>>>> to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's >>>>>> paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the >>>>>> fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and >>>>>> is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to >>>>>> actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that >>>>>> of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange >>>>> as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system >>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they >>>>
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent.
You made that up.
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.--
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101:
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives
innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth
through competition with limited government intervention.
Key word: Choices
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>You made that up.
wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal >>>>>>>>>>>> for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's >>>>>>> paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the >>>>>>> fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and >>>>>>> is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to >>>>>>> actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that >>>>>>> of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange >>>>>> as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system >>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they >>>>>
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent.
No, I observed it.
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101:
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives
innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth
through competition with limited government intervention.
Key word: Choices
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>You made that up.
wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal >>>>>>>>>>>>> for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's >>>>>>>> paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the >>>>>>>> fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and >>>>>>>> is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to >>>>>>>> actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that >>>>>>>> of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange >>>>>>> as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system >>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they >>>>>>
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent.
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market
economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of >association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
--It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101:
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives
innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth
through competition with limited government intervention.
Key word: Choices
On Fri, 27 Feb 2026 12:55:05 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 2/27/2026 12:20 PM, Julian wrote:
On 27/02/2026 16:45, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of >>>>>>> doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but >>>>>>> we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore >>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to get >>>>>> their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal for
anyone else to do it.
It's a good thing the people didn't stand for that and pushed back.
The UK government strictly controls education and health
and in order to avoid strikes it allows unions to fight
productivity advances and free market alternatives.
England and the rest of Europe are not nations of free people.
You mean they are not libertarians.
On 2/27/2026 11:19 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2026 12:55:05 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 2/27/2026 12:20 PM, Julian wrote:
On 27/02/2026 16:45, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are capable of >>>>>>>> doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more advanced, but >>>>>>>> we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication anymore >>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing to get >>>>>>> their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal for >>>>> anyone else to do it.
It's a good thing the people didn't stand for that and pushed back.
The UK government strictly controls education and health
and in order to avoid strikes it allows unions to fight
productivity advances and free market alternatives.
England and the rest of Europe are not nations of free people.
You mean they are not libertarians.
You may not have thought this through. Libertarians are liberals.
They established the basis of liberal political theory in the US:
people's rights existed before government and that the purpose of
government is to protect personal and property rights.
Liberal Libertarians believe that a representative form of government is
the best form to protect individual rights with a limited government, >low-taxation, and minimal state regulation.
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:Sure it is.
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54rC>AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven
organization, and is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action >>>>>> to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely
exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system >>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they >>>>
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without government intervention.
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>You made that up.
wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200"
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's >>>>>>>>> paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the >>>>>>>>> fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and >>>>>>>>> is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to >>>>>>>>> actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that >>>>>>>>> of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange >>>>>>>> as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>> motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system >>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they >>>>>>>
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent.
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market
economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of
association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first.
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand. >>>> We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101:
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives
innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth
through competition with limited government intervention.
Key word: Choices
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:You made that up.
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You're using it right now.
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children.
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult?
where's the free market solution for that???
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these >>>>>>>>>>>> markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's >>>>>>>>>> paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the >>>>>>>>>> fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to >>>>>>>>>> actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it) >>>>>>>>>>
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange >>>>>>>>> as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free >>>>>>>> market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent.
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market
economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of
association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice. >>
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human >rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was >founded on these principles.
Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King of >England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to
be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not?
--
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand. >>>>> We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101:
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives
innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth
through competition with limited government intervention.
Key word: Choices
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 16:36:11 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/1/2026 4:24 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 15:18:20 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:The Bill of Rights is a libertarian document inspired by libertarians.
On 3/1/2026 12:49 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 11:29:03 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Did you study the Bill of Rights in school?
On 3/1/2026 10:18 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:35:25 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Let's begin with the phrase ""We the People of the United States..." >>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 9:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:16:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:It kind of goes without saying that the signing of the US Constitution >>>>>>>> was a conspiracy against the King, you support, so obviously you're biased.
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a >>>>>>>>>> contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical >>>>>>>>>> liberalismrCoadvocating limited government.
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You really like to paint with a large brush!
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:You made that up.
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication
anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent.
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market
economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas:
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of
association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human
rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was
founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights
come first.
for different folks.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards.
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal
freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free >>>>>>>>>> enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peoplerCOs
personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and
personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring
about an ideal society.
I say none of those are nearly so benevolently motivated as you >>>>>>>>> suppose. And it looks to me like you put a bunch of ideas in a >>>>>>>>> blender and turned it on.
Have you reached the depth of your absurdity yet? I expect not. >>>>>>>
We studied this in fifth grade:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect >>>>>> Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the >>>>>> common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of >>>>>> Liberty..."
The key word is: Liberty
If they meant libertarianism, they would have said that.
Also not libertarian.
It aligns closely with modern libertarian principles of individual
liberty and freedom.
We studied this in school.
The Bill of Rights is widely considered a foundational classical liberal
or libertarian document because it explicitly restricts government power
to protect individual liberty.
Sorry liberal does not equal libertarian. Even if you say it again.
It champions freedoms of speech, religion, and assembly, while providing
procedural rights that safeguard against government overreach.
Bill of Rights key points:
1. It protects natural rights to freedom of action that exist before
government.
2. The document was created to ensure the federal government remained
limited.
3. A powerful statement against government interference in personal life. >>>
And, it could be seen as "a bunch of ideas in a blender and turned on."
You are free to state your opinion.
But, it's not really that complicated - any fifth grader knows about >>>>>>>> George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
"We the people..."
Are you sure you went to university?
We are going to need to see some documentation, because you're not >>>>>>>> texting like a fifth grader. Thanks.
Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King ofI really don't care what the official definition is. Wilson's >>>>>>>>>>>>> statements define it well enough for me.
England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to
be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives
innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth
through competition with limited government intervention. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Key word: Choices
On 3/1/2026 8:37 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 16:36:11 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:It looks like you're not passing junior college government class this >semester!
On 3/1/2026 4:24 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 15:18:20 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:The Bill of Rights is a libertarian document inspired by libertarians.
On 3/1/2026 12:49 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 11:29:03 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Did you study the Bill of Rights in school?
On 3/1/2026 10:18 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:35:25 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Let's begin with the phrase ""We the People of the United States..." >>>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 9:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:16:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:It kind of goes without saying that the signing of the US Constitution
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a >>>>>>>>>>> contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical >>>>>>>>>>> liberalismuadvocating limited government.
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
You really like to paint with a large brush! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:You made that up.
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication
anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent.
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market
economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of
association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human
rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was
founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights
come first.
for different folks.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards.
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal
freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free >>>>>>>>>>> enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peopleAs
personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and
personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring
about an ideal society.
I say none of those are nearly so benevolently motivated as you >>>>>>>>>> suppose. And it looks to me like you put a bunch of ideas in a >>>>>>>>>> blender and turned it on.
was a conspiracy against the King, you support, so obviously you're biased.
Have you reached the depth of your absurdity yet? I expect not. >>>>>>>>
We studied this in fifth grade:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect >>>>>>> Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the >>>>>>> common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of
Liberty..."
The key word is: Liberty
If they meant libertarianism, they would have said that.
Also not libertarian.
It aligns closely with modern libertarian principles of individual
liberty and freedom.
We studied this in school.
The Bill of Rights is widely considered a foundational classical liberal >>> or libertarian document because it explicitly restricts government power >>> to protect individual liberty.
Sorry liberal does not equal libertarian. Even if you say it again.
The word "libertarian" comes from the word "liberty
"Libertarian" originates from the Latin root liber ("free") and the
suffix -arian, denoting a person who advocates for liberty.
--It champions freedoms of speech, religion, and assembly, while providing >>> procedural rights that safeguard against government overreach.
Bill of Rights key points:
1. It protects natural rights to freedom of action that exist before
government.
2. The document was created to ensure the federal government remained
limited.
3. A powerful statement against government interference in personal life. >>>>
And, it could be seen as "a bunch of ideas in a blender and turned on."
You are free to state your opinion.
But, it's not really that complicated - any fifth grader knows about >>>>>>>>> George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
"We the people..."
Are you sure you went to university?
We are going to need to see some documentation, because you're not >>>>>>>>> texting like a fifth grader. Thanks.
Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King ofI really don't care what the official definition is. Wilson's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> statements define it well enough for me.
England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to
be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives
innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth
through competition with limited government intervention. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Key word: Choices
On 3/1/26 4:27 PM, Dude wrote:
On 3/1/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 3/1/26 10:57 AM, Dude wrote:Vaccines are the primary tool for eradicating disease, as they create
On 3/1/2026 10:17 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:44:55 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>You can always support your point with information bias. The
On 2/28/2026 10:16 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some scientific papers on that, Nick,
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably >>>>>>>> could
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, >>>>>>>>>> published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more???
Because the State took over education and almost >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made it
illegal for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free in
these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchanged or
not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not
attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary >>>>>>>>>>>> exchange,
where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were >>>>>>>>>>> "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is >>>>>>>>>>> doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased >>>>>>>>>>> towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade >>>>>>>>>> market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so-a perceptive. >>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That can't >>>>>>>>> be true.
I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's >>>>>>>> just confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with >>>>>>>> your nihilistic attitude.
-a-a> > As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you
something you
don't
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He >>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. >>>>>>>> Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and >>>>>>>> competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases, >>>>>>>
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating
diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up >>>>>>> again
I think his point is well made according to the sources I choose to
read.
question is, does innovation and the free market drive medical
research?
The answer is yes, innovation and free-market mechanisms are primary
drivers of medical research, particularly in the private sector
where competition for profits fuels the development of new drugs,
medical devices, and technology.
pure market fundie fluff, one that will stamp itself out this century
due to the sheer absurdity it's driving in the market
herd immunity where enough people are immune to stop the spread.
i love it when u admit u have no coherent response by injecting some
random ass barely relevant fact dude
what a boomerism--- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
keep up the good work EfaiEfaiEfai
Follow the science, Nick.
It's not child abuse to have your kids vaccinated.
On 3/1/2026 10:32 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 3/1/26 4:27 PM, Dude wrote:On the other hand, Nick, preventing your child from getting vaccinated
On 3/1/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 3/1/26 10:57 AM, Dude wrote:Vaccines are the primary tool for eradicating disease, as they create
On 3/1/2026 10:17 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:44:55 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>You can always support your point with information bias. The
On 2/28/2026 10:16 PM, dart200 wrote:I think his point is well made according to the sources I choose to >>>>>> read.
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some scientific papers on that, Nick, >>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably >>>>>>>>> could
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, >>>>>>>>>>> published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last time we eradicated a disease was small pox >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more???
Because the State took over education and almost >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made it
illegal for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free in
these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchanged or
not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary >>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange,
where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were >>>>>>>>>>>> "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is >>>>>>>>>>>> doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased >>>>>>>>>>>> towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade >>>>>>>>>>> market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, soa perceptive. >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.a That can't >>>>>>>>>> be true.
I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's >>>>>>>>> just confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with >>>>>>>>> your nihilistic attitude.
something youAs some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you
don't
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He >>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. >>>>>>>>> Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and >>>>>>>>> competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases, >>>>>>>>
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating
diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up >>>>>>>> again
question is, does innovation and the free market drive medical
research?
The answer is yes, innovation and free-market mechanisms are primary >>>>> drivers of medical research, particularly in the private sector
where competition for profits fuels the development of new drugs,
medical devices, and technology.
pure market fundie fluff, one that will stamp itself out this century >>>> due to the sheer absurdity it's driving in the market
herd immunity where enough people are immune to stop the spread.
i love it when u admit u have no coherent response by injecting some
random ass barely relevant fact dude
could be seen by some as child abuse. YMMV.
--what a boomerism
keep up the good work ???
Follow the science, Nick.
It's not child abuse to have your kids vaccinated.
On 3/1/2026 10:32 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 3/1/26 4:27 PM, Dude wrote:On the other hand, Nick, preventing your child from getting vaccinated
On 3/1/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 3/1/26 10:57 AM, Dude wrote:Vaccines are the primary tool for eradicating disease, as they create
On 3/1/2026 10:17 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:44:55 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>You can always support your point with information bias. The
On 2/28/2026 10:16 PM, dart200 wrote:I think his point is well made according to the sources I choose to >>>>>> read.
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some scientific papers on that, Nick, >>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, DudeNick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably >>>>>>>>> could
<punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, >>>>>>>>>>> published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last time we eradicated a disease was small >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pox in the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free
market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people are
refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more???
Because the State took over education and almost >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made it
illegal for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free in
these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driven
action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering
for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freely
exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchanged or
not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary >>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange,
where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were >>>>>>>>>>>> "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is >>>>>>>>>>>> doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased >>>>>>>>>>>> towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free >>>>>>>>>>> trade market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so
perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is
presented
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That can't >>>>>>>>>> be true.
I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's >>>>>>>>> just confused and you're not helping him out of his depression >>>>>>>>> with
your nihilistic attitude.
-a-a> > As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you
something you
don't
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He >>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. >>>>>>>>> Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and >>>>>>>>> competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases, >>>>>>>>
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating
diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up >>>>>>>> again
question is, does innovation and the free market drive medical
research?
The answer is yes, innovation and free-market mechanisms are
primary drivers of medical research, particularly in the private
sector where competition for profits fuels the development of new
drugs, medical devices, and technology.
pure market fundie fluff, one that will stamp itself out this
century due to the sheer absurdity it's driving in the market
herd immunity where enough people are immune to stop the spread.
i love it when u admit u have no coherent response by injecting some
random ass barely relevant fact dude
could be seen by some as child abuse. YMMV.
--what a boomerism
keep up the good work EfaiEfaiEfai
Follow the science, Nick.
It's not child abuse to have your kids vaccinated.
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 08:24:39 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/1/2026 8:37 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 16:36:11 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:It looks like you're not passing junior college government class this
On 3/1/2026 4:24 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 15:18:20 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>The Bill of Rights is a libertarian document inspired by libertarians. >>>> It aligns closely with modern libertarian principles of individual
On 3/1/2026 12:49 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 11:29:03 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Did you study the Bill of Rights in school?
On 3/1/2026 10:18 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:35:25 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>Let's begin with the phrase ""We the People of the United States..." >>>>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 9:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:16:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:It kind of goes without saying that the signing of the US Constitution
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a >>>>>>>>>>>> contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical >>>>>>>>>>>> liberalismrCoadvocating limited government.
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
You really like to paint with a large brush! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:You made that up.
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>like, why isn't the free market educating people more???last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication
anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their
kids vaccinated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent.
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market
economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of
association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human
rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was
founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights
come first.
for different folks.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards.
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal
freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free >>>>>>>>>>>> enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peoplerCOs
personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and
personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring
about an ideal society.
I say none of those are nearly so benevolently motivated as you >>>>>>>>>>> suppose. And it looks to me like you put a bunch of ideas in a >>>>>>>>>>> blender and turned it on.
was a conspiracy against the King, you support, so obviously you're biased.
Have you reached the depth of your absurdity yet? I expect not. >>>>>>>>>
We studied this in fifth grade:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect >>>>>>>> Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the >>>>>>>> common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of
Liberty..."
The key word is: Liberty
If they meant libertarianism, they would have said that.
Also not libertarian.
liberty and freedom.
We studied this in school.
The Bill of Rights is widely considered a foundational classical liberal >>>> or libertarian document because it explicitly restricts government power >>>> to protect individual liberty.
Sorry liberal does not equal libertarian. Even if you say it again.
semester!
The word "libertarian" comes from the word "liberty
No doubt they share an etymology. That does not make them the same.
"Libertarian" originates from the Latin root liber ("free") and the
suffix -arian, denoting a person who advocates for liberty.
It champions freedoms of speech, religion, and assembly, while providing >>>> procedural rights that safeguard against government overreach.
Bill of Rights key points:
1. It protects natural rights to freedom of action that exist before
government.
2. The document was created to ensure the federal government remained
limited.
3. A powerful statement against government interference in personal life. >>>>>
And, it could be seen as "a bunch of ideas in a blender and turned on."
You are free to state your opinion.
But, it's not really that complicated - any fifth grader knows about >>>>>>>>>> George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
"We the people..."
Are you sure you went to university?
We are going to need to see some documentation, because you're not >>>>>>>>>> texting like a fifth grader. Thanks.
Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King ofI really don't care what the official definition is. Wilson's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statements define it well enough for me.
England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to
be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives
innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth
through competition with limited government intervention. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Key word: Choices
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 09:20:44 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/1/2026 10:32 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 3/1/26 4:27 PM, Dude wrote:On the other hand, Nick, preventing your child from getting vaccinated
On 3/1/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 3/1/26 10:57 AM, Dude wrote:Vaccines are the primary tool for eradicating disease, as they create
On 3/1/2026 10:17 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:44:55 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>You can always support your point with information bias. The
On 2/28/2026 10:16 PM, dart200 wrote:I think his point is well made according to the sources I choose to >>>>>>> read.
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some scientific papers on that, Nick, >>>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably >>>>>>>>>> could
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, >>>>>>>>>>>> published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last time we eradicated a disease was small pox >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more???
Because the State took over education and almost >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made it
illegal for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free in
these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchanged or
not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange,
where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were >>>>>>>>>>>>> "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is >>>>>>>>>>>>> doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased >>>>>>>>>>>>> towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade >>>>>>>>>>>> market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so-a perceptive. >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>>>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That can't >>>>>>>>>>> be true.
I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's >>>>>>>>>> just confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with >>>>>>>>>> your nihilistic attitude.
-a-a> > As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you >>>>>>>>>> something you
don't
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He >>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. >>>>>>>>>> Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and >>>>>>>>>> competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases, >>>>>>>>>
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating
diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up >>>>>>>>> again
question is, does innovation and the free market drive medical
research?
The answer is yes, innovation and free-market mechanisms are primary >>>>>> drivers of medical research, particularly in the private sector
where competition for profits fuels the development of new drugs,
medical devices, and technology.
pure market fundie fluff, one that will stamp itself out this century >>>>> due to the sheer absurdity it's driving in the market
herd immunity where enough people are immune to stop the spread.
i love it when u admit u have no coherent response by injecting some
random ass barely relevant fact dude
could be seen by some as child abuse. YMMV.
It is your right to say so.
what a boomerism
keep up the good work ???
Follow the science, Nick.
It's not child abuse to have your kids vaccinated.
On 3/2/26 9:20 AM, Dude wrote:
On 3/1/2026 10:32 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 3/1/26 4:27 PM, Dude wrote:On the other hand, Nick, preventing your child from getting vaccinated
On 3/1/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:i love it when u admit u have no coherent response by injecting some
On 3/1/26 10:57 AM, Dude wrote:Vaccines are the primary tool for eradicating disease, as they
On 3/1/2026 10:17 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:44:55 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com>You can always support your point with information bias. The
wrote:
On 2/28/2026 10:16 PM, dart200 wrote:I think his point is well made according to the sources I choose to >>>>>>> read.
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some scientific papers on that, Nick, >>>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, DudeNick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably >>>>>>>>>> could
<punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last time we eradicated a disease was small >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pox in the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free
market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people are
refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people more???
Because the State took over education and almost >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made it
illegal for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free in
these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driven
action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering
for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freely
exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchanged or
not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange,
where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were >>>>>>>>>>>>> "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is >>>>>>>>>>>>> doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those >>>>>>>>>>>>> biased
towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
economists, published
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free >>>>>>>>>>>> trade market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so
perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is >>>>>>>>>>> presented
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That can't >>>>>>>>>>> be true.
I know better than that.
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, >>>>>>>>>> he's
just confused and you're not helping him out of his depression >>>>>>>>>> with
your nihilistic attitude.
-a-a> > As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you >>>>>>>>>> something you
don't
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to
university. He
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. >>>>>>>>>> Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and >>>>>>>>>> competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases, >>>>>>>>>
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about,
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating >>>>>>>>> diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back up >>>>>>>>> again
question is, does innovation and the free market drive medical
research?
The answer is yes, innovation and free-market mechanisms are
primary drivers of medical research, particularly in the private
sector where competition for profits fuels the development of new >>>>>> drugs, medical devices, and technology.
pure market fundie fluff, one that will stamp itself out this
century due to the sheer absurdity it's driving in the market
create herd immunity where enough people are immune to stop the spread. >>>
random ass barely relevant fact dude
could be seen by some as child abuse. YMMV.
i love it when u admin u have no coherent response by make random
accusation
i just got my updated tdap + pneumonia vaccine u child abuser, why would
not vaccinate my child?
what a boomerism
keep up the good work EfaiEfaiEfai
Follow the science, Nick.
It's not child abuse to have your kids vaccinated.
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 15:24:23 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/1/2026 10:15 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:37:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:We are going to need to see some documentation backing that assertion
On 2/28/2026 9:55 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:01:07 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Follow the science.
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could >>>>>> have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just >>>>>> confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your >>>>>> nihilistic attitude.
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected. That can't be true. >>>>>>> I know better than that.
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit- >>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible...
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market >>>>>>>> theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so perceptive. Thanks. >>>>>>>
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He >>>>>> doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he >>>>>> could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don't >>>>>>> already know.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition.
That would be your opinion.
I have followed lots of science. None of it leads me where you are.
up. You have not been known to follow science.
My profs thought otherwise.
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from university.
Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject >>>>>>>> for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 3/1/2026 4:23 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 15:24:23 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:What university was that?
On 3/1/2026 10:15 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:37:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:We are going to need to see some documentation backing that assertion
On 2/28/2026 9:55 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:01:07 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Follow the science.
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could >>>>>>> have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just >>>>>>> confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your >>>>>>> nihilistic attitude.
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote:
Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution",
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could.
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>> system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market >>>>>>>>> theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected. That can't be true. >>>>>>>> I know better than that.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He >>>>>>> doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he >>>>>>> could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don't >>>>>>>> already know.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and >>>>>>> competition.
That would be your opinion.
I have followed lots of science. None of it leads me where you are.
up. You have not been known to follow science.
My profs thought otherwise.
So, I looked it up using Google.
"The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and >competition."
--
Usually, with theories like these you are assumed to be from university.
Obviously, you've read John Locke and have thought about this subject >>>>>>>>> for a long time. Good work, Nick!
On 3/2/2026 9:10 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 08:24:39 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Apparently, you've not thought this over for awhile, since maybe 5th
On 3/1/2026 8:37 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 16:36:11 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:It looks like you're not passing junior college government class this
On 3/1/2026 4:24 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 15:18:20 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>The Bill of Rights is a libertarian document inspired by libertarians. >>>>> It aligns closely with modern libertarian principles of individual
On 3/1/2026 12:49 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 11:29:03 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Did you study the Bill of Rights in school?
On 3/1/2026 10:18 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:35:25 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Let's begin with the phrase ""We the People of the United States..." >>>>>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 9:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:16:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:It kind of goes without saying that the signing of the US Constitution
On 2/28/2026 6:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:15:28 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:You can't take the liberal out of libertarian. That would be a >>>>>>>>>>>>> contradiction in terms. Historically "liberal" meant classical >>>>>>>>>>>>> liberalismuadvocating limited government.
On 2/28/2026 5:16 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:50:26 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Apparently Wilson is a liberal, you're conservative. Different strokes
On 2/28/2026 2:22 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:48:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:So, I'm sure you just made that up.
On 2/28/2026 12:58 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 11:27:18 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
You really like to paint with a large brush! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 10:23 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:38:33 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:You made that up.
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions.lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>like, why isn't the free market educating people more???last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the 1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts are
capable of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market to
accomplish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease eradication
anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are refusing
to get their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kids vaccinated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Because the State took over education and almost made it illegal
for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no one's
paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever the
fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven organization, and
is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action to
actually get the world fed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below that
of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely exchange
as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market system
Sure it is.
Wilson means unregulated. Free is a word that hides his intent.
No, I observed it.
Not all Libertarians advocate for a totally unregulated free market
economy. Most right-libertarians focus on free-market capitalism with
just minimal government regulation.
I don't know about their official writing. I simply listen to wilson.
Key word: Minimal
Libertarian ideas are based on liberal ideas: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
1. Individual autonomy
2. Political self-determination
3. Equality before the law
4. Protection of civil rights, including the rights to freedom of
association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and freedom of choice.
For themselves, for others ok, but libertarians first. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Libertarians believe everyone is born equal and have inalienable human
rights to life, liberty and to be secure in their property. America was
founded on these principles.
Wilson's statements, however, make it clear that libertarian rights
come first.
for different folks.
You do try, but you clearly got that one backwards. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Conservatives generally score low on both economic freedom and personal
freedom. That means authoritarians are not only hostile to free >>>>>>>>>>>>> enterprise, but they also believe authorities ought to regulate peopleAs
personal behaviors to maintain social order.
Authoritarians want the state to control more aspects of economic and
personal life because they think such control is more likely to bring
about an ideal society.
I say none of those are nearly so benevolently motivated as you >>>>>>>>>>>> suppose. And it looks to me like you put a bunch of ideas in a >>>>>>>>>>>> blender and turned it on.
was a conspiracy against the King, you support, so obviously you're biased.
Have you reached the depth of your absurdity yet? I expect not. >>>>>>>>>>
We studied this in fifth grade:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect >>>>>>>>> Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the
common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of
Liberty..."
The key word is: Liberty
If they meant libertarianism, they would have said that.
Also not libertarian.
liberty and freedom.
We studied this in school.
The Bill of Rights is widely considered a foundational classical liberal >>>>> or libertarian document because it explicitly restricts government power >>>>> to protect individual liberty.
Sorry liberal does not equal libertarian. Even if you say it again.
semester!
The word "libertarian" comes from the word "liberty
No doubt they share an etymology. That does not make them the same.
grade? Libertarians support liberty.
You might consider taking an online refresher course in Political
Science, or looking it up online. Key in:
IF liberty THEN libertarian ELSE libre
So far, you have defined neither liberty nor libertarian. Get with the >program. Learn more. Find out about political parties in the US and what >their platform is.
The United States is dominated by a two-party system featuring the >Democratic Party and the Republican Party, which control all three
levels of government.
Other parties existusuch as the Libertarian, Green, and Constitution >parties. Learn more online.
--
"Libertarian" originates from the Latin root liber ("free") and the
suffix -arian, denoting a person who advocates for liberty.
It champions freedoms of speech, religion, and assembly, while providing >>>>> procedural rights that safeguard against government overreach.
Bill of Rights key points:
1. It protects natural rights to freedom of action that exist before >>>>> government.
2. The document was created to ensure the federal government remained >>>>> limited.
3. A powerful statement against government interference in personal life. >>>>>>
And, it could be seen as "a bunch of ideas in a blender and turned on."
You are free to state your opinion.
But, it's not really that complicated - any fifth grader knows about
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
"We the people..."
Are you sure you went to university?
We are going to need to see some documentation, because you're not >>>>>>>>>>> texting like a fifth grader. Thanks.
Maybe it's a good thing you ran off to serve His Majesty The King ofI really don't care what the official definition is. Wilson's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statements define it well enough for me.
England. YMMV.
There are millions of different kinds of libertarians. You don't seem to
be able to even define what a libertarian is. Why not? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It's a free market because it's yours. Regulated by supply and demand.
We studied this in junior college: Macro Economics 101: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The reason free markets in America are championed is it drives
innovation, gives consumers choices, and fostering economic growth
through competition with limited government intervention. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Key word: Choices
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 11:50:59 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/1/2026 4:23 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 15:24:23 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:What university was that?
On 3/1/2026 10:15 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:37:49 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>We are going to need to see some documentation backing that assertion
On 2/28/2026 9:55 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 21:01:07 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Follow the science.
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Nick could change his mind and become an optimist. He probably could >>>>>>>> have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, he's just
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by economists, published
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote:You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
last time we eradicated a disease was small pox in the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped what govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore cause ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
apparently it's not profitable enough for the free market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating people more???
Because the State took over education and almost made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal for anyone else to do it.
lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process,
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under "free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ...
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing free in these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand by that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution because no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit off it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i know free market advocates like to claim success for whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market driven action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are suffering for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to freely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are exchanged or not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a free market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary exchange, where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is doing so >>>>>>>>>>> participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those biased towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free trade market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is presented >>>>>>>>> counter to a person's views, it will be rejected. That can't be true.
I know better than that.
confused and you're not helping him out of his depression with your >>>>>>>> nihilistic attitude.
It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to university. He >>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. Maybe he >>>>>>>> could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you something you don'talready know.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and >>>>>>>> competition.
That would be your opinion.
I have followed lots of science. None of it leads me where you are. >>>>>
up. You have not been known to follow science.
My profs thought otherwise.
That is something I am not going to put here. You can accept that or
don't. Not my problem. And since I have moved on to being a
programmer, I don't care if you are hiring.
So, I looked it up using Google.
"The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation and
competition."
No that would be by vaccination.
Except the last time I got a dose, polio was by sugar cube.>Good job! You took the medicine. And, nobody forced you to take it. It's
On 3/2/2026 9:54 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 3/2/26 9:20 AM, Dude wrote:It's your body, Nick. You have your rights. In the US, you can't force anyone to take medications or get a hypo in the ass. Not sure about the Philippines.
On 3/1/2026 10:32 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 3/1/26 4:27 PM, Dude wrote:On the other hand, Nick, preventing your child from getting
On 3/1/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 3/1/26 10:57 AM, Dude wrote:Vaccines are the primary tool for eradicating disease, as they
On 3/1/2026 10:17 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 09:44:55 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:You can always support your point with information bias. The
On 2/28/2026 10:16 PM, dart200 wrote:I think his point is well made according to the sources I choose to >>>>>>>> read.
On 2/28/26 9:01 PM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some scientific papers on that, Nick, >>>>>>>>
On 2/28/2026 6:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 18:11:41 -0800, DudeNick could change his mind and become an optimist. He
<punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/28/2026 3:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 10:16 AM, Dude wrote:We are going to need to see some other reviews by
On 2/28/2026 9:43 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/28/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:Let's look it up:
On 2/27/2026 11:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:54 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 2/27/26 10:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 2/27/2026 1:05 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 9:23 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/2026 11:52 AM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/27/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2026 5:57 PM, dart200 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/26 1:30 PM, Tara wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2026 at 11:25:54?AM EST, "dart200" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You are stumbling over your own (bogus) definitions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lol as if education is only for children. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last time we eradicated a disease was small >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pox in the
1980s,
since then free market fundies have stripped >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what govts
are capable of
doing,
and now we don't eradicate diseases anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause ...
apparently it's not profitable enough for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the free
market
to accomplish
like supposedly medical tech has been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting way more
advanced, but
we've kinda ceased to do anything like disease >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eradication anymore
Previously 'eradicated' diseases are coming back >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because...
- due to ignorance, and fear, a number of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people are
refusing to get their
kids vaccinated.
like, why isn't the free market educating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people more???
Because the State took over education and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost made it
illegal for anyone else to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
education is a life long process, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
so what about continual education as an adult? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where's the free market solution for that??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're using it right now.
i never paid for it, so it doesn't fall under >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "free market
solution" ...
or ... uh ... i guess it's free so ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
free market is an oxymoron of a term tbh, nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free in
these
markets. should be "paid market solution", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
no i'm not, "free market" is an oxymoron and i stand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by that
and regardless this isn't a market driven solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because no
one's paying for it, nor is anyone making a profit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off it
i know free market advocates like to claim success >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for whatever
the fuck humans do, but like this isn't a market driven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization, and is not a success of free market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics
that's also why it's false to say free markets feed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world.
because in actuality it takes a *lot* of non-market >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driven
action
to actually get the world fed.
(nevermind that the quality of food is still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally far below
that of one from a natural state, and people are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suffering
for it)
The "free market" is simply the ability of people to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freely
exchange as they wish. Whether cash or goods are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchanged or
not.
no it's not, free market theory is entirely predicated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on profit-
motivated spot trading
actions that fall outside the purview are not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attributable to free
market theory, no matter how much u wish u could. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
People are definitely paying for the usenet servers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick, even if
they
and then giving the service out for free, it's not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free market
system
Sure it is.
sure it's not
A free market is an economic system based on voluntary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange,
where
prices and wages are determined by supply and demand without >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government intervention.
giving stuff away means not having a price...
it's also not an "exchange"...
in fact it functions in opposition to free market theory were >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rational"
agents with the supply try to charge as much as possible... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
gifting is not explainable by free market theory, nor is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing so
participating in market economics...
this isn't hard to understand, just hard to accept those >>>>>>>>>>>>>> biased
towards
bleating on and on about mUh FrEEE mArKEtS
economists, published
in peer reviewed journals, in order to discuss your free >>>>>>>>>>>>> trade market
theories, because they are so unusual and yet, so
perceptive. Thanks.
The problem with that is that no matter what evidence is >>>>>>>>>>>> presented
counter to a person's views, it will be rejected.-a That >>>>>>>>>>>> can't be true.
I know better than that.
probably could
have been a contender, if he had taken anger management. Now, >>>>>>>>>>> he's
just confused and you're not helping him out of his
depression with
your nihilistic attitude.
-a-a> > As some wise guy said one time, I can't teach you >>>>>>>>>>> something you
don't
already know.It kind of looks like Nick maybe needs to return to
university. He
doesn't seem to have any evidence to support his main theory. >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe he
could do some research at Stanford in macro economics.
The free market is the way disease is eradicated - innovation >>>>>>>>>>> and
competition.
actually it requires a lot of cooperation to eradicate diseases, >>>>>>>>>>
something free market fundies seem to know fuck all about, >>>>>>>>>>
largely related to why we have not only stopped eradicating >>>>>>>>>> diseases,
but already eradicated diseases are threatening to crop back >>>>>>>>>> up again
question is, does innovation and the free market drive medical
research?
The answer is yes, innovation and free-market mechanisms are
primary drivers of medical research, particularly in the private >>>>>>> sector where competition for profits fuels the development of new >>>>>>> drugs, medical devices, and technology.
pure market fundie fluff, one that will stamp itself out this
century due to the sheer absurdity it's driving in the market
create herd immunity where enough people are immune to stop the
spread.
i love it when u admit u have no coherent response by injecting some
random ass barely relevant fact dude
vaccinated could be seen by some as child abuse. YMMV.
i love it when u admin u have no coherent response by make random
accusation
i just got my updated tdap + pneumonia vaccine u child abuser, whyYou have a right to deny internal medications that are forced upon you, that's the point, Nick.
would not vaccinate my child?
Me and Rita are fully boosted!
what a boomerism
keep up the good work EfaiEfaiEfai
Follow the science, Nick.
It's not child abuse to have your kids vaccinated.
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 19:38:00 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
The word liberty comes from the word libre, which means liberal inApparently, you've not thought this over for awhile, since maybe 5thSorry liberal does not equal libertarian. Even if you say it again. >>>>>>>It looks like you're not passing junior college government class this >>>>>> semester!
The word "libertarian" comes from the word "liberty
No doubt they share an etymology. That does not make them the same.
grade? Libertarians support liberty.
I thought we were talking about liberals. You snuck that one by me.
The romans had no idea of modern liberalism. Good thing for you I am
here to tell you that libre in latin means book. Library...
Latin. Didn't they teach you to read in 5th grade? Or, at Sunday school,
so you could understand the Mass?
On 3/2/2026 7:43 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 19:38:00 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Good thing for you, I looked it up on Google:
The word liberty comes from the word libre, which means liberal inApparently, you've not thought this over for awhile, since maybe 5th >>>>> grade? Libertarians support liberty.Sorry liberal does not equal libertarian. Even if you say it again. >>>>>>>>It looks like you're not passing junior college government class this >>>>>>> semester!
The word "libertarian" comes from the word "liberty
No doubt they share an etymology. That does not make them the same. >>>>>>
I thought we were talking about liberals. You snuck that one by me.
The romans had no idea of modern liberalism. Good thing for you I am
here to tell you that libre in latin means book. Library...
"Liberty" originates from the Latin libertatem (nominative libertas), >meaning "civil or political freedom" or "condition of a free man," which >itself stems from liber, meaning "free".
You may be thinking of Middle English or Old French.
Latin. Didn't they teach you to read in 5th grade? Or, at Sunday school, >>> so you could understand the Mass?
On 3/2/2026 7:43 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 19:38:00 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Good thing for you, I looked it up on Google:
The word liberty comes from the word libre, which means liberal inApparently, you've not thought this over for awhile, since maybe 5th >>>>> grade? Libertarians support liberty.Sorry liberal does not equal libertarian. Even if you say it again. >>>>>>>>It looks like you're not passing junior college government class this >>>>>>> semester!
The word "libertarian" comes from the word "liberty
No doubt they share an etymology. That does not make them the same. >>>>>>
I thought we were talking about liberals. You snuck that one by me.
The romans had no idea of modern liberalism. Good thing for you I am
here to tell you that libre in latin means book. Library...
"Liberty" originates from the Latin libertatem (nominative libertas), >meaning "civil or political freedom" or "condition of a free man," which >itself stems from liber, meaning "free".
You may be thinking of Middle English or Old French.
Latin. Didn't they teach you to read in 5th grade? Or, at Sunday school, >>> so you could understand the Mass?
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