• Re: The University of Sussex must stop force-feeding students bad history

    From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sun Feb 22 18:25:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 2/21/2026 8:46 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 16:22:54 +0000, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Earlier this month, an SOS dropped into my inbox. It came from a student
    at the University of Sussex. Lest her repressive professors punish her
    for what I am about to report, letrCOs call her rCyEmmarCO. rCyI am in a mild
    state of despair,rCO she wrote.

    You must feel sorry for those poor conservatives, they feel despair.

    Not sorry. There are only two biological genders: male or female.

    Kathleen Stock resigned from the University of Sussex in 2021 following intense backlash, protests, and accusations of transphobia regarding her published views on gender identity and biological sex.

    She argued that biological sex is immutable and not synonymous with
    gender identity, particularly in the contexts of law, policy, and
    women-only spaces.

    "This week alone I have been told that the history of kinship theory has
    been, up until now, rCyEurocentric and cisgenderedrCO, and another
    anthropology module must be viewed through a rCyqueer and trans lensrCO. The >> word rCydecolonisationrCO comes up in almost every lecture. If university
    campuses represent a microcosm of the greater society, then I fear we
    are doomed."

    IrCOm not surprised. After all, Sussex was the university that so failed
    to protect the coolly reasonable, gender-critical philosopher Kathleen
    Stock from a sustained campaign of vilification by students, aided and
    abetted by some colleagues, that it destroyed her faith in academia and
    drove her to resign. While the university was fulsome in its posthumous
    regret at her leaving, it has yet to give any explanation rCo no matter,
    make a confession rCo of its own astonishing failure to defend her.
    Indeed, itrCOs currently litigating against a fine imposed by the Office
    for Students for failures to uphold free speech.

    Sussex had moved onto my radar before EmmarCOs email for two other
    reasons. One is Alan Lester, the professor of historical geography who
    has made it his mission in life to discredit me, lest anyone should be
    seduced by my utterly moderate views of BritainrCOs colonial record. He it >> was who wrote a 15,000-word takedown of my book, Colonialism: A Moral
    Reckoning, in which he could find nothing positive to say either about
    me or the British Empire. Zilch. Nada. He then organised the
    counter-publication of a collection of essays; every one of them
    targeted at me. Emma reports that, judging by the amount of classroom
    time he devotes to debunking me, I now live rCyrent-free in his headrCO.

    The other instance of Sussex IrCOd encountered is Gurminder Bhambra, a
    professor of social theory. Two weeks ago, she was on the other side of
    the table in a recorded discussion about empire staged by the Doha
    Debates in Qatar.

    Like Lester, Gurminder simply cannot credit the British Empire with any
    positive achievement. When the moderator put the topic of the EmpirerCOs
    benefits on the table, she immediately issued the rhetorical challenge:
    rCyWhat benefits?rCO

    Flying in the face of obvious historical data, this is a main symptom of
    the ideological character of her view. Her thinking is determined by a
    theoretical axiom rCo that empire and colonial rule are totally unjust rCo >> that will not countenance any contrary evidence. Not the fact that the
    British Empire was among the first states in the worldrCOs history to
    abolish slavery and then led the world in suppressing it from Brazil to
    New Zealand. Nor that it introduced liberal institutions of a free
    press, independent judiciary, and representative government to parts of
    the world that had never experienced them.

    Similarly, nor that it made India the largest producer of steel outside
    of North America, Europe, and Japan by 1935, and gave her 47,000 miles
    of railway against ChinarCOs 17,000 by 1947. Nor that, between May 1940
    and June 1941, it offered the massively murderous racist regime in Nazi
    Berlin the only military opposition rCo with the sole exception of Greece. >> In GurminderrCOs eyes rCo implausibly rCo none of this counts for anything. >>
    Behind this stubborn defiance of historical fact lies a more basic
    axiom, namely, that colonialism was fundamentally about economic
    rCyextractionrCO. In support, Gurminder invoked the argument that, since
    India produced 25 per cent of world output in 1800 but only 2 to 4 per
    cent in 1900, it follows that the British had plundered the country. Not
    at all.

    It only shows that industrial productivity in the West increased four to
    six times during that period, reducing IndiarCOs share of global GDP. The
    same fate befell uncolonised China. The neo-Marxist view that
    colonialism was essentially about the predatory extraction of colonial
    surplus owes much more to dogma than empirical data.

    Over 25 years ago, the leading historian of imperial economics, David
    Fieldhouse, endorsed Rudolf von AlbertinirCOs conclusion, based on an
    exhaustive examination of the literature on most parts of the colonial
    world to 1940, that colonial economics rCycannot be understood through
    concepts such as plunder rCa and exploitationrCO. Recently, Tirthankar Roy, >> the Bengali-born professor of colonial economic history at the London
    School of Economics, has confirmed this, writing that rCy[t]he proposition >> that the Empire was at bottom a mechanism of surplus appropriation and
    transfer has not fared well in global historyrCO.

    But thatrCOs the proposition that Gurminder sticks to dogmatically, with
    the result not only that she denies the obvious rCo that the British
    Empire did some good rCo but also that she spins seriously misleading
    tales based on a highly partial selection of data. So, she characterises
    the Empire as consistently callous towards the Indian victims of famine,
    citing two facts. First, when famine hit Bengal in 1769-70, the East
    India Company (EIC) callously increased the tax burden on the starving.
    Second, when famine struck again toward the end of the 19th century, the
    relief fund mandated by the Famine Code of 1880 was found to have been
    spent on yet another Afghan war.

    What Gurminder fails to mention is that, in 1769-70, the EIC governor of
    Calcutta, John Cartier, strove assiduously to save Bengalis. That in the
    following decades Warren Hastings and Lord Cornwallis instituted reforms
    that enabled BengalrCOs economic recovery and made the company fitter to
    govern. And that by 1900, the British had built in India the largest
    irrigation system in the world rCo five times what the Mughals had
    achieved rCo and figured out how to stop seasonal food shortages
    escalating into famines.

    At Sussex and elsewhere, ideologically distorted history is being
    force-fed to students like Emma, who donrCOt dare voice their reasonable
    dissent, rightly fearing that the professorial ideologues who determine
    their fates may not reward them for it. That vulnerable students are put
    in such a fearful position drives a stake into the heart of the liberal
    culture of freely giving and taking reasons that should prevail on our
    campuses. University authorities have a duty to defend them better than
    Sussex defended Kathleen Stock.


    Nigel Biggar

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sun Feb 22 22:46:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 18:25:37 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/21/2026 8:46 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 16:22:54 +0000, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Earlier this month, an SOS dropped into my inbox. It came from a student >>> at the University of Sussex. Lest her repressive professors punish her
    for what I am about to report, letAs call her aEmmaA. aI am in a mild
    state of despair,A she wrote.

    You must feel sorry for those poor conservatives, they feel despair.

    Not sorry. There are only two biological genders: male or female.

    I say that your and my beliefs in the matter do not influence what
    other people believe.

    Kathleen Stock resigned from the University of Sussex in 2021 following >intense backlash, protests, and accusations of transphobia regarding her >published views on gender identity and biological sex.

    She argued that biological sex is immutable and not synonymous with
    gender identity, particularly in the contexts of law, policy, and
    women-only spaces.

    "This week alone I have been told that the history of kinship theory has >>> been, up until now, aEurocentric and cisgenderedA, and another
    anthropology module must be viewed through a aqueer and trans lensA. The >>> word adecolonisationA comes up in almost every lecture. If university
    campuses represent a microcosm of the greater society, then I fear we
    are doomed."

    IAm not surprised. After all, Sussex was the university that so failed
    to protect the coolly reasonable, gender-critical philosopher Kathleen
    Stock from a sustained campaign of vilification by students, aided and
    abetted by some colleagues, that it destroyed her faith in academia and
    drove her to resign. While the university was fulsome in its posthumous
    regret at her leaving, it has yet to give any explanation u no matter,
    make a confession u of its own astonishing failure to defend her.
    Indeed, itAs currently litigating against a fine imposed by the Office
    for Students for failures to uphold free speech.

    Sussex had moved onto my radar before EmmaAs email for two other
    reasons. One is Alan Lester, the professor of historical geography who
    has made it his mission in life to discredit me, lest anyone should be
    seduced by my utterly moderate views of BritainAs colonial record. He it >>> was who wrote a 15,000-word takedown of my book, Colonialism: A Moral
    Reckoning, in which he could find nothing positive to say either about
    me or the British Empire. Zilch. Nada. He then organised the
    counter-publication of a collection of essays; every one of them
    targeted at me. Emma reports that, judging by the amount of classroom
    time he devotes to debunking me, I now live arent-free in his headA.

    The other instance of Sussex IAd encountered is Gurminder Bhambra, a
    professor of social theory. Two weeks ago, she was on the other side of
    the table in a recorded discussion about empire staged by the Doha
    Debates in Qatar.

    Like Lester, Gurminder simply cannot credit the British Empire with any
    positive achievement. When the moderator put the topic of the EmpireAs
    benefits on the table, she immediately issued the rhetorical challenge:
    aWhat benefits?A

    Flying in the face of obvious historical data, this is a main symptom of >>> the ideological character of her view. Her thinking is determined by a
    theoretical axiom u that empire and colonial rule are totally unjust u
    that will not countenance any contrary evidence. Not the fact that the
    British Empire was among the first states in the worldAs history to
    abolish slavery and then led the world in suppressing it from Brazil to
    New Zealand. Nor that it introduced liberal institutions of a free
    press, independent judiciary, and representative government to parts of
    the world that had never experienced them.

    Similarly, nor that it made India the largest producer of steel outside
    of North America, Europe, and Japan by 1935, and gave her 47,000 miles
    of railway against ChinaAs 17,000 by 1947. Nor that, between May 1940
    and June 1941, it offered the massively murderous racist regime in Nazi
    Berlin the only military opposition u with the sole exception of Greece. >>> In GurminderAs eyes u implausibly u none of this counts for anything.

    Behind this stubborn defiance of historical fact lies a more basic
    axiom, namely, that colonialism was fundamentally about economic
    aextractionA. In support, Gurminder invoked the argument that, since
    India produced 25 per cent of world output in 1800 but only 2 to 4 per
    cent in 1900, it follows that the British had plundered the country. Not >>> at all.

    It only shows that industrial productivity in the West increased four to >>> six times during that period, reducing IndiaAs share of global GDP. The
    same fate befell uncolonised China. The neo-Marxist view that
    colonialism was essentially about the predatory extraction of colonial
    surplus owes much more to dogma than empirical data.

    Over 25 years ago, the leading historian of imperial economics, David
    Fieldhouse, endorsed Rudolf von AlbertiniAs conclusion, based on an
    exhaustive examination of the literature on most parts of the colonial
    world to 1940, that colonial economics acannot be understood through
    concepts such as plunder a and exploitationA. Recently, Tirthankar Roy,
    the Bengali-born professor of colonial economic history at the London
    School of Economics, has confirmed this, writing that a[t]he proposition >>> that the Empire was at bottom a mechanism of surplus appropriation and
    transfer has not fared well in global historyA.

    But thatAs the proposition that Gurminder sticks to dogmatically, with
    the result not only that she denies the obvious u that the British
    Empire did some good u but also that she spins seriously misleading
    tales based on a highly partial selection of data. So, she characterises >>> the Empire as consistently callous towards the Indian victims of famine, >>> citing two facts. First, when famine hit Bengal in 1769-70, the East
    India Company (EIC) callously increased the tax burden on the starving.
    Second, when famine struck again toward the end of the 19th century, the >>> relief fund mandated by the Famine Code of 1880 was found to have been
    spent on yet another Afghan war.

    What Gurminder fails to mention is that, in 1769-70, the EIC governor of >>> Calcutta, John Cartier, strove assiduously to save Bengalis. That in the >>> following decades Warren Hastings and Lord Cornwallis instituted reforms >>> that enabled BengalAs economic recovery and made the company fitter to
    govern. And that by 1900, the British had built in India the largest
    irrigation system in the world u five times what the Mughals had
    achieved u and figured out how to stop seasonal food shortages
    escalating into famines.

    At Sussex and elsewhere, ideologically distorted history is being
    force-fed to students like Emma, who donAt dare voice their reasonable
    dissent, rightly fearing that the professorial ideologues who determine
    their fates may not reward them for it. That vulnerable students are put >>> in such a fearful position drives a stake into the heart of the liberal
    culture of freely giving and taking reasons that should prevail on our
    campuses. University authorities have a duty to defend them better than
    Sussex defended Kathleen Stock.


    Nigel Biggar
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Feb 23 09:53:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 2/22/2026 7:46 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 18:25:37 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/21/2026 8:46 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 16:22:54 +0000, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Earlier this month, an SOS dropped into my inbox. It came from a student >>>> at the University of Sussex. Lest her repressive professors punish her >>>> for what I am about to report, letrCOs call her rCyEmmarCO. rCyI am in a mild
    state of despair,rCO she wrote.

    You must feel sorry for those poor conservatives, they feel despair.

    Not sorry. There are only two biological genders: male or female.

    I say that your and my beliefs in the matter do not influence what
    other people believe.

    Some people are highly susceptible to suggestion and are very prone to suggestibility. They sometimes believe things they read on social media.

    Your data is all over the internet. Good work!
    Kathleen Stock resigned from the University of Sussex in 2021
    following
    intense backlash, protests, and accusations of transphobia regarding her
    published views on gender identity and biological sex.

    She argued that biological sex is immutable and not synonymous with
    gender identity, particularly in the contexts of law, policy, and
    women-only spaces.

    "This week alone I have been told that the history of kinship theory has >>>> been, up until now, rCyEurocentric and cisgenderedrCO, and another
    anthropology module must be viewed through a rCyqueer and trans lensrCO. The
    word rCydecolonisationrCO comes up in almost every lecture. If university >>>> campuses represent a microcosm of the greater society, then I fear we
    are doomed."

    IrCOm not surprised. After all, Sussex was the university that so failed >>>> to protect the coolly reasonable, gender-critical philosopher Kathleen >>>> Stock from a sustained campaign of vilification by students, aided and >>>> abetted by some colleagues, that it destroyed her faith in academia and >>>> drove her to resign. While the university was fulsome in its posthumous >>>> regret at her leaving, it has yet to give any explanation rCo no matter, >>>> make a confession rCo of its own astonishing failure to defend her.
    Indeed, itrCOs currently litigating against a fine imposed by the Office >>>> for Students for failures to uphold free speech.

    Sussex had moved onto my radar before EmmarCOs email for two other
    reasons. One is Alan Lester, the professor of historical geography who >>>> has made it his mission in life to discredit me, lest anyone should be >>>> seduced by my utterly moderate views of BritainrCOs colonial record. He it >>>> was who wrote a 15,000-word takedown of my book, Colonialism: A Moral
    Reckoning, in which he could find nothing positive to say either about >>>> me or the British Empire. Zilch. Nada. He then organised the
    counter-publication of a collection of essays; every one of them
    targeted at me. Emma reports that, judging by the amount of classroom
    time he devotes to debunking me, I now live rCyrent-free in his headrCO. >>>>
    The other instance of Sussex IrCOd encountered is Gurminder Bhambra, a >>>> professor of social theory. Two weeks ago, she was on the other side of >>>> the table in a recorded discussion about empire staged by the Doha
    Debates in Qatar.

    Like Lester, Gurminder simply cannot credit the British Empire with any >>>> positive achievement. When the moderator put the topic of the EmpirerCOs >>>> benefits on the table, she immediately issued the rhetorical challenge: >>>> rCyWhat benefits?rCO

    Flying in the face of obvious historical data, this is a main symptom of >>>> the ideological character of her view. Her thinking is determined by a >>>> theoretical axiom rCo that empire and colonial rule are totally unjust rCo >>>> that will not countenance any contrary evidence. Not the fact that the >>>> British Empire was among the first states in the worldrCOs history to
    abolish slavery and then led the world in suppressing it from Brazil to >>>> New Zealand. Nor that it introduced liberal institutions of a free
    press, independent judiciary, and representative government to parts of >>>> the world that had never experienced them.

    Similarly, nor that it made India the largest producer of steel outside >>>> of North America, Europe, and Japan by 1935, and gave her 47,000 miles >>>> of railway against ChinarCOs 17,000 by 1947. Nor that, between May 1940 >>>> and June 1941, it offered the massively murderous racist regime in Nazi >>>> Berlin the only military opposition rCo with the sole exception of Greece. >>>> In GurminderrCOs eyes rCo implausibly rCo none of this counts for anything.

    Behind this stubborn defiance of historical fact lies a more basic
    axiom, namely, that colonialism was fundamentally about economic
    rCyextractionrCO. In support, Gurminder invoked the argument that, since >>>> India produced 25 per cent of world output in 1800 but only 2 to 4 per >>>> cent in 1900, it follows that the British had plundered the country. Not >>>> at all.

    It only shows that industrial productivity in the West increased four to >>>> six times during that period, reducing IndiarCOs share of global GDP. The >>>> same fate befell uncolonised China. The neo-Marxist view that
    colonialism was essentially about the predatory extraction of colonial >>>> surplus owes much more to dogma than empirical data.

    Over 25 years ago, the leading historian of imperial economics, David
    Fieldhouse, endorsed Rudolf von AlbertinirCOs conclusion, based on an
    exhaustive examination of the literature on most parts of the colonial >>>> world to 1940, that colonial economics rCycannot be understood through >>>> concepts such as plunder rCa and exploitationrCO. Recently, Tirthankar Roy,
    the Bengali-born professor of colonial economic history at the London
    School of Economics, has confirmed this, writing that rCy[t]he proposition >>>> that the Empire was at bottom a mechanism of surplus appropriation and >>>> transfer has not fared well in global historyrCO.

    But thatrCOs the proposition that Gurminder sticks to dogmatically, with >>>> the result not only that she denies the obvious rCo that the British
    Empire did some good rCo but also that she spins seriously misleading
    tales based on a highly partial selection of data. So, she characterises >>>> the Empire as consistently callous towards the Indian victims of famine, >>>> citing two facts. First, when famine hit Bengal in 1769-70, the East
    India Company (EIC) callously increased the tax burden on the starving. >>>> Second, when famine struck again toward the end of the 19th century, the >>>> relief fund mandated by the Famine Code of 1880 was found to have been >>>> spent on yet another Afghan war.

    What Gurminder fails to mention is that, in 1769-70, the EIC governor of >>>> Calcutta, John Cartier, strove assiduously to save Bengalis. That in the >>>> following decades Warren Hastings and Lord Cornwallis instituted reforms >>>> that enabled BengalrCOs economic recovery and made the company fitter to >>>> govern. And that by 1900, the British had built in India the largest
    irrigation system in the world rCo five times what the Mughals had
    achieved rCo and figured out how to stop seasonal food shortages
    escalating into famines.

    At Sussex and elsewhere, ideologically distorted history is being
    force-fed to students like Emma, who donrCOt dare voice their reasonable >>>> dissent, rightly fearing that the professorial ideologues who determine >>>> their fates may not reward them for it. That vulnerable students are put >>>> in such a fearful position drives a stake into the heart of the liberal >>>> culture of freely giving and taking reasons that should prevail on our >>>> campuses. University authorities have a duty to defend them better than >>>> Sussex defended Kathleen Stock.


    Nigel Biggar

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Feb 23 13:54:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 09:53:03 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/22/2026 7:46 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 18:25:37 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/21/2026 8:46 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 16:22:54 +0000, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Earlier this month, an SOS dropped into my inbox. It came from a student >>>>> at the University of Sussex. Lest her repressive professors punish her >>>>> for what I am about to report, letAs call her aEmmaA. aI am in a mild >>>>> state of despair,A she wrote.

    You must feel sorry for those poor conservatives, they feel despair.

    Not sorry. There are only two biological genders: male or female.

    I say that your and my beliefs in the matter do not influence what
    other people believe.

    Some people are highly susceptible to suggestion and are very prone to >suggestibility. They sometimes believe things they read on social media.


    But you and I know better than to do that, don't we?

    Your data is all over the internet. Good work!

    Kathleen Stock resigned from the University of Sussex in 2021
    following
    intense backlash, protests, and accusations of transphobia regarding her >>> published views on gender identity and biological sex.

    She argued that biological sex is immutable and not synonymous with
    gender identity, particularly in the contexts of law, policy, and
    women-only spaces.

    "This week alone I have been told that the history of kinship theory has >>>>> been, up until now, aEurocentric and cisgenderedA, and another
    anthropology module must be viewed through a aqueer and trans lensA. The >>>>> word adecolonisationA comes up in almost every lecture. If university >>>>> campuses represent a microcosm of the greater society, then I fear we >>>>> are doomed."

    IAm not surprised. After all, Sussex was the university that so failed >>>>> to protect the coolly reasonable, gender-critical philosopher Kathleen >>>>> Stock from a sustained campaign of vilification by students, aided and >>>>> abetted by some colleagues, that it destroyed her faith in academia and >>>>> drove her to resign. While the university was fulsome in its posthumous >>>>> regret at her leaving, it has yet to give any explanation u no matter, >>>>> make a confession u of its own astonishing failure to defend her.
    Indeed, itAs currently litigating against a fine imposed by the Office >>>>> for Students for failures to uphold free speech.

    Sussex had moved onto my radar before EmmaAs email for two other
    reasons. One is Alan Lester, the professor of historical geography who >>>>> has made it his mission in life to discredit me, lest anyone should be >>>>> seduced by my utterly moderate views of BritainAs colonial record. He it >>>>> was who wrote a 15,000-word takedown of my book, Colonialism: A Moral >>>>> Reckoning, in which he could find nothing positive to say either about >>>>> me or the British Empire. Zilch. Nada. He then organised the
    counter-publication of a collection of essays; every one of them
    targeted at me. Emma reports that, judging by the amount of classroom >>>>> time he devotes to debunking me, I now live arent-free in his headA. >>>>>
    The other instance of Sussex IAd encountered is Gurminder Bhambra, a >>>>> professor of social theory. Two weeks ago, she was on the other side of >>>>> the table in a recorded discussion about empire staged by the Doha
    Debates in Qatar.

    Like Lester, Gurminder simply cannot credit the British Empire with any >>>>> positive achievement. When the moderator put the topic of the EmpireAs >>>>> benefits on the table, she immediately issued the rhetorical challenge: >>>>> aWhat benefits?A

    Flying in the face of obvious historical data, this is a main symptom of >>>>> the ideological character of her view. Her thinking is determined by a >>>>> theoretical axiom u that empire and colonial rule are totally unjust u >>>>> that will not countenance any contrary evidence. Not the fact that the >>>>> British Empire was among the first states in the worldAs history to
    abolish slavery and then led the world in suppressing it from Brazil to >>>>> New Zealand. Nor that it introduced liberal institutions of a free
    press, independent judiciary, and representative government to parts of >>>>> the world that had never experienced them.

    Similarly, nor that it made India the largest producer of steel outside >>>>> of North America, Europe, and Japan by 1935, and gave her 47,000 miles >>>>> of railway against ChinaAs 17,000 by 1947. Nor that, between May 1940 >>>>> and June 1941, it offered the massively murderous racist regime in Nazi >>>>> Berlin the only military opposition u with the sole exception of Greece. >>>>> In GurminderAs eyes u implausibly u none of this counts for anything. >>>>>
    Behind this stubborn defiance of historical fact lies a more basic
    axiom, namely, that colonialism was fundamentally about economic
    aextractionA. In support, Gurminder invoked the argument that, since >>>>> India produced 25 per cent of world output in 1800 but only 2 to 4 per >>>>> cent in 1900, it follows that the British had plundered the country. Not >>>>> at all.

    It only shows that industrial productivity in the West increased four to >>>>> six times during that period, reducing IndiaAs share of global GDP. The >>>>> same fate befell uncolonised China. The neo-Marxist view that
    colonialism was essentially about the predatory extraction of colonial >>>>> surplus owes much more to dogma than empirical data.

    Over 25 years ago, the leading historian of imperial economics, David >>>>> Fieldhouse, endorsed Rudolf von AlbertiniAs conclusion, based on an
    exhaustive examination of the literature on most parts of the colonial >>>>> world to 1940, that colonial economics acannot be understood through >>>>> concepts such as plunder a and exploitationA. Recently, Tirthankar Roy, >>>>> the Bengali-born professor of colonial economic history at the London >>>>> School of Economics, has confirmed this, writing that a[t]he proposition >>>>> that the Empire was at bottom a mechanism of surplus appropriation and >>>>> transfer has not fared well in global historyA.

    But thatAs the proposition that Gurminder sticks to dogmatically, with >>>>> the result not only that she denies the obvious u that the British
    Empire did some good u but also that she spins seriously misleading
    tales based on a highly partial selection of data. So, she characterises >>>>> the Empire as consistently callous towards the Indian victims of famine, >>>>> citing two facts. First, when famine hit Bengal in 1769-70, the East >>>>> India Company (EIC) callously increased the tax burden on the starving. >>>>> Second, when famine struck again toward the end of the 19th century, the >>>>> relief fund mandated by the Famine Code of 1880 was found to have been >>>>> spent on yet another Afghan war.

    What Gurminder fails to mention is that, in 1769-70, the EIC governor of >>>>> Calcutta, John Cartier, strove assiduously to save Bengalis. That in the >>>>> following decades Warren Hastings and Lord Cornwallis instituted reforms >>>>> that enabled BengalAs economic recovery and made the company fitter to >>>>> govern. And that by 1900, the British had built in India the largest >>>>> irrigation system in the world u five times what the Mughals had
    achieved u and figured out how to stop seasonal food shortages
    escalating into famines.

    At Sussex and elsewhere, ideologically distorted history is being
    force-fed to students like Emma, who donAt dare voice their reasonable >>>>> dissent, rightly fearing that the professorial ideologues who determine >>>>> their fates may not reward them for it. That vulnerable students are put >>>>> in such a fearful position drives a stake into the heart of the liberal >>>>> culture of freely giving and taking reasons that should prevail on our >>>>> campuses. University authorities have a duty to defend them better than >>>>> Sussex defended Kathleen Stock.


    Nigel Biggar
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Feb 23 19:18:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 2/23/2026 10:54 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 09:53:03 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/22/2026 7:46 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 18:25:37 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/21/2026 8:46 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 16:22:54 +0000, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Earlier this month, an SOS dropped into my inbox. It came from a student >>>>>> at the University of Sussex. Lest her repressive professors punish her >>>>>> for what I am about to report, letrCOs call her rCyEmmarCO. rCyI am in a mild
    state of despair,rCO she wrote.

    You must feel sorry for those poor conservatives, they feel despair. >>>>>
    Not sorry. There are only two biological genders: male or female.

    I say that your and my beliefs in the matter do not influence what
    other people believe.

    Some people are highly susceptible to suggestion and are very prone to
    suggestibility. They sometimes believe things they read on social media.


    But you and I know better than to do that, don't we?

    Most of the things I know I learned in elementary school starting in
    grade three. Two genders. Then, later in Biology 101: Anatomy and
    Physiology. Two geners confirmed.

    Your data is all over the internet. Good work!

    Kathleen Stock resigned from the University of Sussex in 2021
    following
    intense backlash, protests, and accusations of transphobia regarding her >>>> published views on gender identity and biological sex.

    She argued that biological sex is immutable and not synonymous with
    gender identity, particularly in the contexts of law, policy, and
    women-only spaces.

    "This week alone I have been told that the history of kinship theory has >>>>>> been, up until now, rCyEurocentric and cisgenderedrCO, and another >>>>>> anthropology module must be viewed through a rCyqueer and trans lensrCO. The
    word rCydecolonisationrCO comes up in almost every lecture. If university
    campuses represent a microcosm of the greater society, then I fear we >>>>>> are doomed."

    IrCOm not surprised. After all, Sussex was the university that so failed >>>>>> to protect the coolly reasonable, gender-critical philosopher Kathleen >>>>>> Stock from a sustained campaign of vilification by students, aided and >>>>>> abetted by some colleagues, that it destroyed her faith in academia and >>>>>> drove her to resign. While the university was fulsome in its posthumous >>>>>> regret at her leaving, it has yet to give any explanation rCo no matter, >>>>>> make a confession rCo of its own astonishing failure to defend her. >>>>>> Indeed, itrCOs currently litigating against a fine imposed by the Office >>>>>> for Students for failures to uphold free speech.

    Sussex had moved onto my radar before EmmarCOs email for two other >>>>>> reasons. One is Alan Lester, the professor of historical geography who >>>>>> has made it his mission in life to discredit me, lest anyone should be >>>>>> seduced by my utterly moderate views of BritainrCOs colonial record. He it
    was who wrote a 15,000-word takedown of my book, Colonialism: A Moral >>>>>> Reckoning, in which he could find nothing positive to say either about >>>>>> me or the British Empire. Zilch. Nada. He then organised the
    counter-publication of a collection of essays; every one of them
    targeted at me. Emma reports that, judging by the amount of classroom >>>>>> time he devotes to debunking me, I now live rCyrent-free in his headrCO. >>>>>>
    The other instance of Sussex IrCOd encountered is Gurminder Bhambra, a >>>>>> professor of social theory. Two weeks ago, she was on the other side of >>>>>> the table in a recorded discussion about empire staged by the Doha >>>>>> Debates in Qatar.

    Like Lester, Gurminder simply cannot credit the British Empire with any >>>>>> positive achievement. When the moderator put the topic of the EmpirerCOs >>>>>> benefits on the table, she immediately issued the rhetorical challenge: >>>>>> rCyWhat benefits?rCO

    Flying in the face of obvious historical data, this is a main symptom of >>>>>> the ideological character of her view. Her thinking is determined by a >>>>>> theoretical axiom rCo that empire and colonial rule are totally unjust rCo
    that will not countenance any contrary evidence. Not the fact that the >>>>>> British Empire was among the first states in the worldrCOs history to >>>>>> abolish slavery and then led the world in suppressing it from Brazil to >>>>>> New Zealand. Nor that it introduced liberal institutions of a free >>>>>> press, independent judiciary, and representative government to parts of >>>>>> the world that had never experienced them.

    Similarly, nor that it made India the largest producer of steel outside >>>>>> of North America, Europe, and Japan by 1935, and gave her 47,000 miles >>>>>> of railway against ChinarCOs 17,000 by 1947. Nor that, between May 1940 >>>>>> and June 1941, it offered the massively murderous racist regime in Nazi >>>>>> Berlin the only military opposition rCo with the sole exception of Greece.
    In GurminderrCOs eyes rCo implausibly rCo none of this counts for anything.

    Behind this stubborn defiance of historical fact lies a more basic >>>>>> axiom, namely, that colonialism was fundamentally about economic
    rCyextractionrCO. In support, Gurminder invoked the argument that, since >>>>>> India produced 25 per cent of world output in 1800 but only 2 to 4 per >>>>>> cent in 1900, it follows that the British had plundered the country. Not >>>>>> at all.

    It only shows that industrial productivity in the West increased four to >>>>>> six times during that period, reducing IndiarCOs share of global GDP. The
    same fate befell uncolonised China. The neo-Marxist view that
    colonialism was essentially about the predatory extraction of colonial >>>>>> surplus owes much more to dogma than empirical data.

    Over 25 years ago, the leading historian of imperial economics, David >>>>>> Fieldhouse, endorsed Rudolf von AlbertinirCOs conclusion, based on an >>>>>> exhaustive examination of the literature on most parts of the colonial >>>>>> world to 1940, that colonial economics rCycannot be understood through >>>>>> concepts such as plunder rCa and exploitationrCO. Recently, Tirthankar Roy,
    the Bengali-born professor of colonial economic history at the London >>>>>> School of Economics, has confirmed this, writing that rCy[t]he proposition
    that the Empire was at bottom a mechanism of surplus appropriation and >>>>>> transfer has not fared well in global historyrCO.

    But thatrCOs the proposition that Gurminder sticks to dogmatically, with >>>>>> the result not only that she denies the obvious rCo that the British >>>>>> Empire did some good rCo but also that she spins seriously misleading >>>>>> tales based on a highly partial selection of data. So, she characterises >>>>>> the Empire as consistently callous towards the Indian victims of famine, >>>>>> citing two facts. First, when famine hit Bengal in 1769-70, the East >>>>>> India Company (EIC) callously increased the tax burden on the starving. >>>>>> Second, when famine struck again toward the end of the 19th century, the >>>>>> relief fund mandated by the Famine Code of 1880 was found to have been >>>>>> spent on yet another Afghan war.

    What Gurminder fails to mention is that, in 1769-70, the EIC governor of >>>>>> Calcutta, John Cartier, strove assiduously to save Bengalis. That in the >>>>>> following decades Warren Hastings and Lord Cornwallis instituted reforms >>>>>> that enabled BengalrCOs economic recovery and made the company fitter to >>>>>> govern. And that by 1900, the British had built in India the largest >>>>>> irrigation system in the world rCo five times what the Mughals had >>>>>> achieved rCo and figured out how to stop seasonal food shortages
    escalating into famines.

    At Sussex and elsewhere, ideologically distorted history is being
    force-fed to students like Emma, who donrCOt dare voice their reasonable >>>>>> dissent, rightly fearing that the professorial ideologues who determine >>>>>> their fates may not reward them for it. That vulnerable students are put >>>>>> in such a fearful position drives a stake into the heart of the liberal >>>>>> culture of freely giving and taking reasons that should prevail on our >>>>>> campuses. University authorities have a duty to defend them better than >>>>>> Sussex defended Kathleen Stock.


    Nigel Biggar

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Feb 23 22:40:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 19:18:34 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/23/2026 10:54 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 09:53:03 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/22/2026 7:46 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 18:25:37 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>
    On 2/21/2026 8:46 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 16:22:54 +0000, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    Earlier this month, an SOS dropped into my inbox. It came from a student
    at the University of Sussex. Lest her repressive professors punish her >>>>>>> for what I am about to report, letAs call her aEmmaA. aI am in a mild >>>>>>> state of despair,A she wrote.

    You must feel sorry for those poor conservatives, they feel despair. >>>>>>
    Not sorry. There are only two biological genders: male or female.

    I say that your and my beliefs in the matter do not influence what
    other people believe.

    Some people are highly susceptible to suggestion and are very prone to
    suggestibility. They sometimes believe things they read on social media. >>>

    But you and I know better than to do that, don't we?

    Most of the things I know I learned in elementary school starting in
    grade three. Two genders. Then, later in Biology 101: Anatomy and >Physiology. Two geners confirmed.

    I learned at university that all sorts of genetic variations are
    possible (but not common). hermaphroditic, multiple pairs of mammary
    glands in females, whatnot. The prof's comment was that nature is not
    nearly so obssessed with gender as we are.

    You really can't get an education in a jr college.

    Your data is all over the internet. Good work!

    Kathleen Stock resigned from the University of Sussex in 2021
    following
    intense backlash, protests, and accusations of transphobia regarding her >>>>> published views on gender identity and biological sex.

    She argued that biological sex is immutable and not synonymous with
    gender identity, particularly in the contexts of law, policy, and
    women-only spaces.

    "This week alone I have been told that the history of kinship theory has
    been, up until now, aEurocentric and cisgenderedA, and another
    anthropology module must be viewed through a aqueer and trans lensA. The
    word adecolonisationA comes up in almost every lecture. If university >>>>>>> campuses represent a microcosm of the greater society, then I fear we >>>>>>> are doomed."

    IAm not surprised. After all, Sussex was the university that so failed >>>>>>> to protect the coolly reasonable, gender-critical philosopher Kathleen >>>>>>> Stock from a sustained campaign of vilification by students, aided and >>>>>>> abetted by some colleagues, that it destroyed her faith in academia and >>>>>>> drove her to resign. While the university was fulsome in its posthumous >>>>>>> regret at her leaving, it has yet to give any explanation u no matter, >>>>>>> make a confession u of its own astonishing failure to defend her. >>>>>>> Indeed, itAs currently litigating against a fine imposed by the Office >>>>>>> for Students for failures to uphold free speech.

    Sussex had moved onto my radar before EmmaAs email for two other >>>>>>> reasons. One is Alan Lester, the professor of historical geography who >>>>>>> has made it his mission in life to discredit me, lest anyone should be >>>>>>> seduced by my utterly moderate views of BritainAs colonial record. He it
    was who wrote a 15,000-word takedown of my book, Colonialism: A Moral >>>>>>> Reckoning, in which he could find nothing positive to say either about >>>>>>> me or the British Empire. Zilch. Nada. He then organised the
    counter-publication of a collection of essays; every one of them >>>>>>> targeted at me. Emma reports that, judging by the amount of classroom >>>>>>> time he devotes to debunking me, I now live arent-free in his headA. >>>>>>>
    The other instance of Sussex IAd encountered is Gurminder Bhambra, a >>>>>>> professor of social theory. Two weeks ago, she was on the other side of >>>>>>> the table in a recorded discussion about empire staged by the Doha >>>>>>> Debates in Qatar.

    Like Lester, Gurminder simply cannot credit the British Empire with any >>>>>>> positive achievement. When the moderator put the topic of the EmpireAs >>>>>>> benefits on the table, she immediately issued the rhetorical challenge: >>>>>>> aWhat benefits?A

    Flying in the face of obvious historical data, this is a main symptom of
    the ideological character of her view. Her thinking is determined by a >>>>>>> theoretical axiom u that empire and colonial rule are totally unjust u >>>>>>> that will not countenance any contrary evidence. Not the fact that the >>>>>>> British Empire was among the first states in the worldAs history to >>>>>>> abolish slavery and then led the world in suppressing it from Brazil to >>>>>>> New Zealand. Nor that it introduced liberal institutions of a free >>>>>>> press, independent judiciary, and representative government to parts of >>>>>>> the world that had never experienced them.

    Similarly, nor that it made India the largest producer of steel outside >>>>>>> of North America, Europe, and Japan by 1935, and gave her 47,000 miles >>>>>>> of railway against ChinaAs 17,000 by 1947. Nor that, between May 1940 >>>>>>> and June 1941, it offered the massively murderous racist regime in Nazi >>>>>>> Berlin the only military opposition u with the sole exception of Greece.
    In GurminderAs eyes u implausibly u none of this counts for anything. >>>>>>>
    Behind this stubborn defiance of historical fact lies a more basic >>>>>>> axiom, namely, that colonialism was fundamentally about economic >>>>>>> aextractionA. In support, Gurminder invoked the argument that, since >>>>>>> India produced 25 per cent of world output in 1800 but only 2 to 4 per >>>>>>> cent in 1900, it follows that the British had plundered the country. Not
    at all.

    It only shows that industrial productivity in the West increased four to
    six times during that period, reducing IndiaAs share of global GDP. The >>>>>>> same fate befell uncolonised China. The neo-Marxist view that
    colonialism was essentially about the predatory extraction of colonial >>>>>>> surplus owes much more to dogma than empirical data.

    Over 25 years ago, the leading historian of imperial economics, David >>>>>>> Fieldhouse, endorsed Rudolf von AlbertiniAs conclusion, based on an >>>>>>> exhaustive examination of the literature on most parts of the colonial >>>>>>> world to 1940, that colonial economics acannot be understood through >>>>>>> concepts such as plunder a and exploitationA. Recently, Tirthankar Roy, >>>>>>> the Bengali-born professor of colonial economic history at the London >>>>>>> School of Economics, has confirmed this, writing that a[t]he proposition
    that the Empire was at bottom a mechanism of surplus appropriation and >>>>>>> transfer has not fared well in global historyA.

    But thatAs the proposition that Gurminder sticks to dogmatically, with >>>>>>> the result not only that she denies the obvious u that the British >>>>>>> Empire did some good u but also that she spins seriously misleading >>>>>>> tales based on a highly partial selection of data. So, she characterises
    the Empire as consistently callous towards the Indian victims of famine,
    citing two facts. First, when famine hit Bengal in 1769-70, the East >>>>>>> India Company (EIC) callously increased the tax burden on the starving. >>>>>>> Second, when famine struck again toward the end of the 19th century, the
    relief fund mandated by the Famine Code of 1880 was found to have been >>>>>>> spent on yet another Afghan war.

    What Gurminder fails to mention is that, in 1769-70, the EIC governor of
    Calcutta, John Cartier, strove assiduously to save Bengalis. That in the
    following decades Warren Hastings and Lord Cornwallis instituted reforms
    that enabled BengalAs economic recovery and made the company fitter to >>>>>>> govern. And that by 1900, the British had built in India the largest >>>>>>> irrigation system in the world u five times what the Mughals had >>>>>>> achieved u and figured out how to stop seasonal food shortages
    escalating into famines.

    At Sussex and elsewhere, ideologically distorted history is being >>>>>>> force-fed to students like Emma, who donAt dare voice their reasonable >>>>>>> dissent, rightly fearing that the professorial ideologues who determine >>>>>>> their fates may not reward them for it. That vulnerable students are put
    in such a fearful position drives a stake into the heart of the liberal >>>>>>> culture of freely giving and taking reasons that should prevail on our >>>>>>> campuses. University authorities have a duty to defend them better than >>>>>>> Sussex defended Kathleen Stock.


    Nigel Biggar
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Wilson@Wilson@nowhere.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Tue Feb 24 10:41:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 2/23/2026 10:40 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 19:18:34 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/23/2026 10:54 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 09:53:03 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/22/2026 7:46 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 18:25:37 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On 2/21/2026 8:46 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 16:22:54 +0000, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:

    Earlier this month, an SOS dropped into my inbox. It came from a student
    at the University of Sussex. Lest her repressive professors punish her >>>>>>>> for what I am about to report, letrCOs call her rCyEmmarCO. rCyI am in a mild
    state of despair,rCO she wrote.

    You must feel sorry for those poor conservatives, they feel despair. >>>>>>>
    Not sorry. There are only two biological genders: male or female.

    I say that your and my beliefs in the matter do not influence what
    other people believe.

    Some people are highly susceptible to suggestion and are very prone to >>>> suggestibility. They sometimes believe things they read on social media. >>>>

    But you and I know better than to do that, don't we?

    Most of the things I know I learned in elementary school starting in
    grade three. Two genders. Then, later in Biology 101: Anatomy and
    Physiology. Two geners confirmed.

    I learned at university that all sorts of genetic variations are
    possible (but not common). hermaphroditic, multiple pairs of mammary
    glands in females, whatnot. The prof's comment was that nature is not
    nearly so obssessed with gender as we are.

    You really can't get an education in a jr college.

    "Condescension is a recurring tactic. The leftist says dissenters are uninformed, morally deficient, or acting in bad faith. Rather than
    engaging with ideas, they employ a "talking down" tone where their views
    are assumed as self-evident truths.

    The left often denigrates opponents instead of answering their
    arguments, which is a sign of intellectual insecurity."

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Tue Feb 24 11:27:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 10:41:20 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 2/23/2026 10:40 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 19:18:34 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/23/2026 10:54 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 09:53:03 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>
    On 2/22/2026 7:46 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 18:25:37 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2/21/2026 8:46 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 16:22:54 +0000, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    Earlier this month, an SOS dropped into my inbox. It came from a student
    at the University of Sussex. Lest her repressive professors punish her
    for what I am about to report, letAs call her aEmmaA. aI am in a mild >>>>>>>>> state of despair,A she wrote.

    You must feel sorry for those poor conservatives, they feel despair. >>>>>>>>
    Not sorry. There are only two biological genders: male or female. >>>>>>
    I say that your and my beliefs in the matter do not influence what >>>>>> other people believe.

    Some people are highly susceptible to suggestion and are very prone to >>>>> suggestibility. They sometimes believe things they read on social media. >>>>>

    But you and I know better than to do that, don't we?

    Most of the things I know I learned in elementary school starting in
    grade three. Two genders. Then, later in Biology 101: Anatomy and
    Physiology. Two geners confirmed.

    I learned at university that all sorts of genetic variations are
    possible (but not common). hermaphroditic, multiple pairs of mammary
    glands in females, whatnot. The prof's comment was that nature is not
    nearly so obssessed with gender as we are.

    You really can't get an education in a jr college.

    "Condescension is a recurring tactic. The leftist says dissenters are >uninformed,

    dissenters are not necessarily uninformed. Uneducated people are.

    morally deficient, or acting in bad faith.

    Who said anything about that? But yes, propaganda is bad faith at its
    finest.

    Rather than
    engaging with ideas, they employ a "talking down" tone where their views
    are assumed as self-evident truths.

    I engaged my profs with ideas while I was at university, when I
    occasionally had one worthy of their attention. And I am engaging
    with your ideas, whether you like it or not.

    Remembering that lies are not ideas, are not theories, are not
    opinions.

    The left often denigrates opponents instead of answering their
    arguments, which is a sign of intellectual insecurity."

    No that is what the rightwing that wants to say: I am entitled to my
    opinion (yes you are) and it is as good as the opinion of somebody who
    has spent years of their lives successfully learning about a topic
    (no, your opinions are not without similar training. Without that
    your ideas are ignorance, even though you occasionally can be
    accidentally right).

    You of course can accuse those who disagree with you of condescension.
    That is a whine unless you undertake to inform yourself with real
    knowledge. At that point you would deserve attention whether I would
    then agree with you or not.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Tue Feb 24 12:11:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 11:27:38 -0500, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 10:41:20 -0500, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 2/23/2026 10:40 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 19:18:34 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/23/2026 10:54 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 09:53:03 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On 2/22/2026 7:46 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 18:25:37 -0800, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2/21/2026 8:46 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Feb 2026 16:22:54 +0000, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Earlier this month, an SOS dropped into my inbox. It came from a student
    at the University of Sussex. Lest her repressive professors punish her
    for what I am about to report, letAs call her aEmmaA. aI am in a mild
    state of despair,A she wrote.

    You must feel sorry for those poor conservatives, they feel despair. >>>>>>>>>
    Not sorry. There are only two biological genders: male or female. >>>>>>>
    I say that your and my beliefs in the matter do not influence what >>>>>>> other people believe.

    Some people are highly susceptible to suggestion and are very prone to >>>>>> suggestibility. They sometimes believe things they read on social media. >>>>>>

    But you and I know better than to do that, don't we?

    Most of the things I know I learned in elementary school starting in
    grade three. Two genders. Then, later in Biology 101: Anatomy and
    Physiology. Two geners confirmed.

    I learned at university that all sorts of genetic variations are
    possible (but not common). hermaphroditic, multiple pairs of mammary
    glands in females, whatnot. The prof's comment was that nature is not
    nearly so obssessed with gender as we are.

    You really can't get an education in a jr college.

    "Condescension is a recurring tactic. The leftist says dissenters are >>uninformed,

    dissenters are not necessarily uninformed. Uneducated people are.

    morally deficient, or acting in bad faith.

    Who said anything about that? But yes, propaganda is bad faith at its >finest.

    Rather than
    engaging with ideas, they employ a "talking down" tone where their views >>are assumed as self-evident truths.

    I engaged my profs with ideas while I was at university, when I
    occasionally had one worthy of their attention. And I am engaging
    with your ideas, whether you like it or not.

    Remembering that lies are not ideas, are not theories, are not
    opinions.

    The left often denigrates opponents instead of answering their
    arguments, which is a sign of intellectual insecurity."

    No that is what the rightwing that wants to say: I am entitled to my
    opinion (yes you are) and it is as good as the opinion of somebody who
    has spent years of their lives successfully learning about a topic
    (no, your opinions are not without similar training. Without that
    your ideas are ignorance, even though you occasionally can be
    accidentally right).

    You of course can accuse those who disagree with you of condescension.
    That is a whine unless you undertake to inform yourself with real
    knowledge. At that point you would deserve attention whether I would
    then agree with you or not.

    There are, for instance conservative economists, and commentators
    (David Frum) who do that without being farright conspiracy theorists.
    There is even Liz Cheney, who politically is much like her father the
    war hawk. Even so, I applaud her resistance to himbo, while you
    deplore her for the same reason. I would definitely argue against her
    politics otherwise, but I grant she knows the difference between right
    and wrong. I give her respect at a time when it is seldom deserved.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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