but muh trade secrets!?
like i'm not a huge market fan, and most people here are... but can't we
all agree markets work best when everyone has as close to perfect >information as is possible to build, no?
--but muh trade secrets!?
the stupid part is muh trade secrets/patents were never a design goal of >capitalism. patents were supposed to be a *solution* to the problem of
trade secrets: give people a recognized monopoly to give out info.
people now conflate that with how things should be as if we won't ever
again innovate without muh trade secrets ... which is patently false
with a long list of various examples including most of academia where
profit motive presents a deep conflict of interest in evaluating actual >results an objective manner.
with 21st century tech, we can do better by requiring that businesses
(and governing systems) operate in with real time, full transparency.
sure plenty will get massively butthurt, but overtime as we get used to >operating/competing in a transparent manner...
we will produce something far superior in real economic outcomes!
before then probably elevating to some form of 23rd century communism...
but transparency first ehh????
https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/1q8myy8/how_will_you_abolish_the_social_relations_that/nyr41lu/
like i'm not a huge market fan, and most people here are... but can't we
all agree markets work best when everyone has as close to perfect information as is possible to build, no?
but muh trade secrets!?
the stupid part is muh trade secrets/patents were never a design goal of capitalism. patents were supposed to be a *solution* to the problem of
trade secrets: give people a recognized monopoly to give out info.
people now conflate that with how things should be as if we won't ever
again innovate without muh trade secrets ... which is patently false
with a long list of various examples including most of academia where
profit motive presents a deep conflict of interest in evaluating actual results an objective manner.
with 21st century tech, we can do better by requiring that businesses
(and governing systems) operate in with real time, full transparency.
sure plenty will get massively butthurt, but overtime as we get used to operating/competing in a transparent manner...
we will produce something far superior in real economic outcomes!
before then probably elevating to some form of 23rd century communism...
but transparency first ehh????
https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/1q8myy8/ how_will_you_abolish_the_social_relations_that/nyr41lu/
On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 01:59:59 -0800, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
like i'm not a huge market fan, and most people here are... but can't we
all agree markets work best when everyone has as close to perfect
information as is possible to build, no?
True information.
but muh trade secrets!?
the stupid part is muh trade secrets/patents were never a design goal of
capitalism. patents were supposed to be a *solution* to the problem of
trade secrets: give people a recognized monopoly to give out info.
people now conflate that with how things should be as if we won't ever
again innovate without muh trade secrets ... which is patently false
with a long list of various examples including most of academia where
profit motive presents a deep conflict of interest in evaluating actual
results an objective manner.
with 21st century tech, we can do better by requiring that businesses
(and governing systems) operate in with real time, full transparency.
sure plenty will get massively butthurt, but overtime as we get used to
operating/competing in a transparent manner...
we will produce something far superior in real economic outcomes!
before then probably elevating to some form of 23rd century communism...
but transparency first ehh????
https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/1q8myy8/how_will_you_abolish_the_social_relations_that/nyr41lu/
On 1/11/2026 7:02 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 01:59:59 -0800, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
like i'm not a huge market fan, and most people here are... but can't we >>> all agree markets work best when everyone has as close to perfect
information as is possible to build, no?
True information.
All information is valid, true or false, for an information junkie.
How about that?
All incoming information changes the second you input any data by the
simple act of perception. There's no pure data (day-ta).
How do you silence the fakers?
Turn off your TV and subscribe to absfg, the only non-moderated
discussion group still uncensored on the internet - until you guys came along.
but muh trade secrets!?
the stupid part is muh trade secrets/patents were never a design goal of >>> capitalism. patents were supposed to be a *solution* to the problem of
trade secrets: give people a recognized monopoly to give out info.
people now conflate that with how things should be as if we won't ever
again innovate without muh trade secrets ... which is patently false
with a long list of various examples including most of academia where
profit motive presents a deep conflict of interest in evaluating actual
results an objective manner.
with 21st century tech, we can do better by requiring that businesses
(and governing systems) operate in with real time, full transparency.
sure plenty will get massively butthurt, but overtime as we get used to
operating/competing in a transparent manner...
we will produce something far superior in real economic outcomes!
before then probably elevating to some form of 23rd century communism... >>> but transparency first ehh????
https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/1q8myy8/
how_will_you_abolish_the_social_relations_that/nyr41lu/
On 1/11/2026 4:59 AM, dart200 wrote:
like i'm not a huge market fan, and most people here are... but can't
we all agree markets work best when everyone has as close to perfect
information as is possible to build, no?
but muh trade secrets!?
the stupid part is muh trade secrets/patents were never a design goal
of capitalism. patents were supposed to be a *solution* to the problem
of trade secrets: give people a recognized monopoly to give out info.
people now conflate that with how things should be as if we won't ever
again innovate without muh trade secrets ... which is patently false
with a long list of various examples including most of academia where
profit motive presents a deep conflict of interest in evaluating
actual results an objective manner.
with 21st century tech, we can do better by requiring that businesses
(and governing systems) operate in with real time, full transparency.
sure plenty will get massively butthurt, but overtime as we get used
to operating/competing in a transparent manner...
we will produce something far superior in real economic outcomes!
before then probably elevating to some form of 23rd century
communism... but transparency first ehh????
https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/1q8myy8/
how_will_you_abolish_the_social_relations_that/nyr41lu/
Your full transparency thing IMO is a good idea. I can see some real benefits to it improving both economics and government.
Possible downsides would be not allowing patents on products for a
limited time as that does incentivize innovation and that is useful. And possibly it would empower ideological radicals who want to murder and destroy, but we already have them now anyway.
I'd include non-business orgs as well.
On a somewhat related tangent I think it's also time to make it clear
that all persons own themselves and their DNA. I don't think it's
ethical to patent any life forms.
On 1/11/2026 9:21 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 1/11/2026 4:59 AM, dart200 wrote:One of the main benefits of blockchain is increasing trust in the
like i'm not a huge market fan, and most people here are... but can't
we all agree markets work best when everyone has as close to perfect
information as is possible to build, no?
but muh trade secrets!?
the stupid part is muh trade secrets/patents were never a design goal
of capitalism. patents were supposed to be a *solution* to the
problem of trade secrets: give people a recognized monopoly to give
out info.
people now conflate that with how things should be as if we won't
ever again innovate without muh trade secrets ... which is patently
false with a long list of various examples including most of academia
where profit motive presents a deep conflict of interest in
evaluating actual results an objective manner.
with 21st century tech, we can do better by requiring that businesses
(and governing systems) operate in with real time, full transparency.
sure plenty will get massively butthurt, but overtime as we get used
to operating/competing in a transparent manner...
we will produce something far superior in real economic outcomes!
before then probably elevating to some form of 23rd century
communism... but transparency first ehh????
https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/1q8myy8/
how_will_you_abolish_the_social_relations_that/nyr41lu/
Your full transparency thing IMO is a good idea. I can see some real
benefits to it improving both economics and government.
system. Then there are security concerns among member organization and traceability when data is shared across a business network
Possible downsides would be not allowing patents on products for aIt's your DNA!
limited time as that does incentivize innovation and that is useful.
And possibly it would empower ideological radicals who want to murder
and destroy, but we already have them now anyway.
I'd include non-business orgs as well.
On a somewhat related tangent I think it's also time to make it clear
that all persons own themselves and their DNA. I don't think it's
ethical to patent any life forms.
On 1/11/26 10:06 AM, Dude wrote:
On 1/11/2026 7:02 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 01:59:59 -0800, dart200All information is valid, true or false, for an information junkie.
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
like i'm not a huge market fan, and most people here are... but
can't we
all agree markets work best when everyone has as close to perfect
information as is possible to build, no?
True information.
spoken like someone who doesn't know anything about complexity theory
--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2How about that?
All incoming information changes the second you input any data by the
simple act of perception. There's no pure data (day-ta).
How do you silence the fakers?
Turn off your TV and subscribe to absfg, the only non-moderated
discussion group still uncensored on the internet - until you guys
came along.
On 1/11/26 11:21 AM, Dude wrote:
On 1/11/2026 9:21 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 1/11/2026 4:59 AM, dart200 wrote:One of the main benefits of blockchain is increasing trust in the
like i'm not a huge market fan, and most people here are... but
can't we all agree markets work best when everyone has as close to
perfect information as is possible to build, no?
but muh trade secrets!?
the stupid part is muh trade secrets/patents were never a design
goal of capitalism. patents were supposed to be a *solution* to the
problem of trade secrets: give people a recognized monopoly to give
out info.
people now conflate that with how things should be as if we won't
ever again innovate without muh trade secrets ... which is patently
false with a long list of various examples including most of
academia where profit motive presents a deep conflict of interest in
evaluating actual results an objective manner.
with 21st century tech, we can do better by requiring that
businesses (and governing systems) operate in with real time, full
transparency. sure plenty will get massively butthurt, but overtime
as we get used to operating/competing in a transparent manner...
we will produce something far superior in real economic outcomes!
before then probably elevating to some form of 23rd century
communism... but transparency first ehh????
https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/1q8myy8/
how_will_you_abolish_the_social_relations_that/nyr41lu/
Your full transparency thing IMO is a good idea. I can see some real
benefits to it improving both economics and government.
system. Then there are security concerns among member organization and
traceability when data is shared across a business network
like i said: unless u tie the accounts to real world IDs it's not really increasing transparency
It's your DNA!
Possible downsides would be not allowing patents on products for a
limited time as that does incentivize innovation and that is useful.
And possibly it would empower ideological radicals who want to murder
and destroy, but we already have them now anyway.
I'd include non-business orgs as well.
On a somewhat related tangent I think it's also time to make it clear
that all persons own themselves and their DNA. I don't think it's
ethical to patent any life forms.
On 1/11/2026 7:02 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 01:59:59 -0800, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
like i'm not a huge market fan, and most people here are... but can't we >>> all agree markets work best when everyone has as close to perfect
information as is possible to build, no?
True information.
All information is valid, true or false, for an information junkie.
How about that?--
All incoming information changes the second you input any data by the
simple act of perception. There's no pure data (day-ta).
How do you silence the fakers?
Turn off your TV and subscribe to absfg, the only non-moderated
discussion group still uncensored on the internet - until you guys came >along.
but muh trade secrets!?
the stupid part is muh trade secrets/patents were never a design goal of >>> capitalism. patents were supposed to be a *solution* to the problem of
trade secrets: give people a recognized monopoly to give out info.
people now conflate that with how things should be as if we won't ever
again innovate without muh trade secrets ... which is patently false
with a long list of various examples including most of academia where
profit motive presents a deep conflict of interest in evaluating actual
results an objective manner.
with 21st century tech, we can do better by requiring that businesses
(and governing systems) operate in with real time, full transparency.
sure plenty will get massively butthurt, but overtime as we get used to
operating/competing in a transparent manner...
we will produce something far superior in real economic outcomes!
before then probably elevating to some form of 23rd century communism... >>> but transparency first ehh????
https://old.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/1q8myy8/how_will_you_abolish_the_social_relations_that/nyr41lu/
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