• Anonymity & Censorship

    From vjp2.at@vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Jan 5 16:33:24 2026
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    The argument against anonymous posting is that one is entitled to confront one's accuser and even sue them. The argument in favor of anonymous posting is that it prevents retribution against whistle blowers and other purveyors of difficult truths. Privacy and free speech are mutually exclusive as the Greek word for privacy is cognate with idiot as openness was the way Athenians got to the truth. Under common law you could use whatever name you wanted provided it wasn't fraudulent; only with entitlements and other pretence of officialdom did identity matter and become thievable. But the elitist emperor of officialdom is without clothes and doesn't matter. During the 1990s scientific advancement and collaboration soared because of open crowd sourcing, which now has been suppressed in the name of moderation and curation. Those that were bothered by free speech got hissy fits and found endless moral arguments to supress it. There was even an anonymous "biotech rumor mill" and adventurous biohackers. Officialdom suppresses innovation with incrementalist satisficing lest it overturn the elite priveleges of officialdom. Your labor union can see your party and voting history to see if you are loyal to them, so why shouldn't we know the perversions of our children's schoolteachers, like abortion. When voting was open not secret, most people sold their votes. You could find out what your neighbor's tax was so you could contest the equity of your own. Swiss bank privacy owed to the nazi era.
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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Jan 5 13:03:14 2026
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    On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 16:33:24 -0000 (UTC),
    vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

    The argument against anonymous posting is that one is entitled to confront
    one's accuser and even sue them. The argument in favor of anonymous posting >is that it prevents retribution against whistle blowers and other purveyors >of difficult truths. Privacy and free speech are mutually exclusive as the >Greek word for privacy is cognate with idiot as openness was the way >Athenians got to the truth. Under common law you could use whatever name you >wanted provided it wasn't fraudulent; only with entitlements and other >pretence of officialdom did identity matter and become thievable. But the >elitist emperor of officialdom is without clothes and doesn't matter. During >the 1990s scientific advancement and collaboration soared because of open >crowd sourcing, which now has been suppressed in the name of moderation and >curation. Those that were bothered by free speech got hissy fits and found >endless moral arguments to supress it. There was even an anonymous "biotech >rumor mill" and adventurous biohackers. Officialdom suppresses innovation >with incrementalist satisficing lest it overturn the elite priveleges of >officialdom. Your labor union can see your party and voting history to see if >you are loyal to them, so why shouldn't we know the perversions of our >children's schoolteachers, like abortion.

    Because opinions are not perversions.

    The unresolvable issue is: the difference between what may be said
    and what should be said.

    Should we immerse ourselves in falsehood so that some truth can come
    through that otherwise might not? So that those who want to believe
    lies can get their jollies?

    Notice I did say the issue cannot be resolved.

    In any case, that has nothing to do with being anonymous. A fallacy
    teacher once upon a time said, all quotes should be anonymous so that
    they can be considered based on their merits alone. It makes no
    difference whether a streetperson said it or einstein said it. It can
    still be either true or false or unclear.

    When voting was open not secret,
    most people sold their votes. You could find out what your neighbor's tax was >so you could contest the equity of your own. Swiss bank privacy owed to the >nazi era.

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Jan 5 13:22:16 2026
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    On 1/5/2026 10:03 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 16:33:24 -0000 (UTC),
    vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

    The argument against anonymous posting is that one is entitled to confront
    one's accuser and even sue them. The argument in favor of anonymous posting
    is that it prevents retribution against whistle blowers and other purveyors
    of difficult truths. Privacy and free speech are mutually exclusive as the
    Greek word for privacy is cognate with idiot as openness was the way
    Athenians got to the truth. Under common law you could use whatever name you
    wanted provided it wasn't fraudulent; only with entitlements and other
    pretence of officialdom did identity matter and become thievable. But the
    elitist emperor of officialdom is without clothes and doesn't matter. During
    the 1990s scientific advancement and collaboration soared because of open
    crowd sourcing, which now has been suppressed in the name of moderation and
    curation. Those that were bothered by free speech got hissy fits and found
    endless moral arguments to supress it. There was even an anonymous "biotech
    rumor mill" and adventurous biohackers. Officialdom suppresses innovation
    with incrementalist satisficing lest it overturn the elite priveleges of
    officialdom. Your labor union can see your party and voting history to see if
    you are loyal to them, so why shouldn't we know the perversions of our
    children's schoolteachers, like abortion.

    Because opinions are not perversions.

    The unresolvable issue is: the difference between what may be said
    and what should be said.

    Should we immerse ourselves in falsehood so that some truth can come
    through that otherwise might not? So that those who want to believe
    lies can get their jollies?

    Notice I did say the issue cannot be resolved.

    In any case, that has nothing to do with being anonymous. A fallacy
    teacher once upon a time said, all quotes should be anonymous so that
    they can be considered based on their merits alone. It makes no
    difference whether a streetperson said it or einstein said it. It can
    still be either true or false or unclear.

    You are making way too much sense today! Good work!

    There's my truth and there's your truth. There are in fact, two truths:

    A conventional truth. And, an absolute truth.

    Where is Tang when we need him?

    When voting was open not secret,
    most people sold their votes. You could find out what your neighbor's tax was
    so you could contest the equity of your own. Swiss bank privacy owed to the
    nazi era.


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