As is evident, oJehovahAs Witnesseso do not preach the one true gospel
of salvation by faith in ChristAs death and resurrection for our sins
Corinthians 15:1-4; Galatians 1:8-9). Rather, they present themselves as >ministers of light, professing concern for otruth,o while advancing
satanic deception and a counterfeit gospel that Paul pronounced accursed.
The true gospel declares that pagans stand owithout excuseo because
GodAs eternal power is already made plain to them through creation, yet
they actively suppress that truth through unrighteousness and exchange
the Creator for created things (Romans 1). Psalm 19 affirms the same >reality. Pagans are not condemned because they lack awareness that God
made the world. They are condemned because they have rejected that
evident knowledge. For this reason, arguments from creation will never
win an atheist to the truth.
Scripture assumes that GodAs existence is evident in creation and calls
men everywhere to repent by faith in Jesus Christ (Acts 17). ChristAs
death and resurrection alone provide the acceptable and propitiating >atonement for sin. Only faith in that finished work delivers men from >eternal, conscious punishment in the lake of fire. Physical death itself >accomplishes nothing toward the removal of sin, contrary to the LIES AND >FALSE, HERETICAL GOSPEL of oJehovahAs Witnesses.o In reality, they deny >YHWH, because Jesus Christ is YHWH. They alter the Word of God to
support those denials, knowing that if Scripture is left unchanged, it >plainly testifies that Jesus is God and that salvation comes only
through faith in Him (Romans 10:13).
Liar. "Jehovah's Witnesses do NOT preach salvation through faith in
Christ alone, according to the gospel which the apostles proclaimed (1 >Corinthians 15:1-4; Galatians; Galatians 1:8-9). Among other heresies,
you preach that men's own physical death atones for their sins, while
you LIE about Romans 6:7. That passage is talking ONLY about salvation
from the power of sin in daily living, ONLY for those who have faith in >CHRIST'S death and resurrection. It mentions nothing whatsoever about
men's own physical death atoning for sin. God says it is only through
faith in Christ's atonement (Acts 4:12; Romans 3:23-26; 1 John 2:1-2).
You are a LIAR and promote a FALSE, ACCURSED gospel.
Evolution: Please explain.
Concerning evolution, I would like your opinion on how this could have happened.
One of those alleged designs from evolution out there, is a type of
ophrys orchid (family Orchidaceae), that has pictures of female wasps
on its petals. The picture even shows eyes, antennae and wings. But
that's not all. It produces an odor of a female wasp ready to mate.
This draws the male wasp, which in turn pollinates the flower.
So tell me please if you can, if the plants came first, how did it
know that female wasps were going to be evolved later on, so as to
draw pictures of them on its petals? And how could it know what the
female mating odor would be like so as to duplicate its chemistry?
But if they developed simultaneously, how could the orchid foresee the
final appearance and odor of a female wasp and then precisely paint
its picture on itself for pollination? And remember, it is evolution allegedly doing this. It has no eyes nor olfactory senses, yet it
correctly paints the female wasp and reproduces its odor. If I didn't
know any better, sounds like a mind is needed for that.
Now if the wasp developed first, we still got the problem of the
orchid detecting the shape and color AND ODOR of the wasp. It just
sounds like something with a brain or mind is needed to produce that complexity.
James wrote:
Evolution: Please explain.
Can you explain the details of your version of creationism, in even 1%
of the detail that evolution has been expounded?
Can you do that without refererencing evolution?\
Concerning evolution, I would like your opinion on how this could have
happened.
One of those alleged designs from evolution out there, is a type of
ophrys orchid (family Orchidaceae), that has pictures of female wasps
on its petals. The picture even shows eyes, antennae and wings. But
that's not all. It produces an odor of a female wasp ready to mate.
This draws the male wasp, which in turn pollinates the flower.
So tell me please if you can, if the plants came first, how did it
know that female wasps were going to be evolved later on, so as to
draw pictures of them on its petals? And how could it know what the
female mating odor would be like so as to duplicate its chemistry?
But if they developed simultaneously, how could the orchid foresee the
final appearance and odor of a female wasp and then precisely paint
its picture on itself for pollination? And remember, it is evolution
allegedly doing this. It has no eyes nor olfactory senses, yet it
correctly paints the female wasp and reproduces its odor. If I didn't
know any better, sounds like a mind is needed for that.
Now if the wasp developed first, we still got the problem of the
orchid detecting the shape and color AND ODOR of the wasp. It just
sounds like something with a brain or mind is needed to produce that
complexity.
You might be able to answer your own question if you would not try to
define evolution in a way that nobody else does.
You are stuck on the idea that the plant or wasp, once it first appears,--
can never adapt on its own to new circumstances. I realize this is what
you believe as a creationist, but it's not at all how any biologist's
version of evolution works. If you want to debunk evolution, you have
to understand what evolution is.
Seriously, I would love to see creation abiogenesis explained step by
step at the machinery level.
I hope you don't think i'm picking on you by questioning your posts. In >fact, you may be the only one here who isn't a loon.
On Thu, 05 Feb 2026 23:45:40 -0800, Samuel Spade <sam@spade.invalid> wrote:
James wrote:
Evolution: Please explain.
Can you explain the details of your version of creationism, in even 1%
of the detail that evolution has been expounded?
Can you do that without refererencing evolution?
Well, first of all we don't believe in creationism. They say the earth
and all life was created in 6 24 hour days. We say things took
thousands or millions of years, which agrees with science.
We go by the Bible's view of creation, and its order. I don't recall
if I already sent you this, but this is what we believe:
Gen 1:1,2 shows that all things were a result of creation, not random
chance. At the end of verse 2, the sun is shinning brightly and the
earth has just been created, but is in a raw form at this time. Things
were about to change for the earth.
If the sun is shinning from verse 1, why is there darkness on the
earth's surface at verse 2? Because something is blocking the sun's
light from reaching the earth's surface.
Gen 1:3-31 God gets the earth ready for habitation. He will divide
those periods of creative activities into 6 undefined lengths called a
"day". (In the first two chapters of Genesis, the word "day" has 4
different lengths of time attributed to them.) So a day here is not
always 24 hours.
Notice Ge 1:6-8 talks about a division between waters and waters. Many scientists now are saying the beginning earth was a water planet, with
water on the whole surface and the earth emmerced in a thick vapor.
So God caused a division between the waters on the earth's surface,
and the thick water vapor way up. (looked something like Venus, the
planet surrounded with clouds)
When God caused a space to now be between those two water sources, He
created an atmosphere. But there is still darkness on the earth's
surface. Why?
Because those water vapor clouds totaly blocked out the sun.
The rest of the creation account shows the emergence of the various
life forms, which are basically in agreement with science. So to
summarize, notice this brief excerpt:
"The science of mathematical probability offers striking proof that
the Genesis creation account must have come from a source with
knowledge of the events. The account lists 10 major stages in this
order: (1) a beginning; (2) a primitive earth in darkness and
enshrouded in heavy gases and water; (3) light [reaching the surface];
(4) an expanse or atmosphere; (5) large areas of dry land; (6) land
plants; (7) sun, moon and stars discernible in the expanse, and
seasons beginning; (8) sea monsters and flying creatures; (9) wild and
tame beasts, mammals; (10) man. Science agrees that these stages
occurred in this general order. What are the chances that the writer
of Genesis just guessed this order? The same as if you picked at
random the numbers 1 to 10 from a box, and drew them in consecutive
order. The chances of doing this on your first try are 1 in
3,628,800!" (Life- How did it get here? By evolution or by creation?,
1985, p. 36) [brackets mine]
The Babylonian creation account says the god Apsu along with the
Concerning evolution, I would like your opinion on how this could have
happened.
You might be able to answer your own question if you would not try to >define evolution in a way that nobody else does.
You are stuck on the idea that the plant or wasp, once it first appears, >can never adapt on its own to new circumstances. I realize this is what >you believe as a creationist, but it's not at all how any biologist's >version of evolution works. If you want to debunk evolution, you have
to understand what evolution is.
Seriously, I would love to see creation abiogenesis explained step by
step at the machinery level.
Well, think about it a minute. The following should be true facts:
Evolution has no eyes. Yet it somehow detected elecromagnetic waves
James wrote:
Evolution: Please explain.
Can you explain the details of your version of creationism, in even 1%
of the detail that evolution has been expounded?
Can you do that without refererencing evolution?
--- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2Concerning evolution, I would like your opinion on how this could have
happened.
One of those alleged designs from evolution out there, is a type of
ophrys orchid (family Orchidaceae), that has pictures of female wasps
on its petals. The picture even shows eyes, antennae and wings. But
that's not all. It produces an odor of a female wasp ready to mate.
This draws the male wasp, which in turn pollinates the flower.
So tell me please if you can, if the plants came first, how did it
know that female wasps were going to be evolved later on, so as to
draw pictures of them on its petals? And how could it know what the
female mating odor would be like so as to duplicate its chemistry?
But if they developed simultaneously, how could the orchid foresee the
final appearance and odor of a female wasp and then precisely paint
its picture on itself for pollination? And remember, it is evolution
allegedly doing this. It has no eyes nor olfactory senses, yet it
correctly paints the female wasp and reproduces its odor. If I didn't
know any better, sounds like a mind is needed for that.
Now if the wasp developed first, we still got the problem of the
orchid detecting the shape and color AND ODOR of the wasp. It just
sounds like something with a brain or mind is needed to produce that
complexity.
You might be able to answer your own question if you would not try to
define evolution in a way that nobody else does.
You are stuck on the idea that the plant or wasp, once it first appears,
can never adapt on its own to new circumstances. I realize this is what
you believe as a creationist, but it's not at all how any biologist's
version of evolution works. If you want to debunk evolution, you have
to understand what evolution is.
Seriously, I would love to see creation abiogenesis explained step by
step at the machinery level.
I hope you don't think i'm picking on you by questioning your posts. In >fact, you may be the only one here who isn't a loon.
SO much of epidemics is explained by evolution
EOC hold that if God made the rules, he is free to suspend them at will
so the apophatic mystery overrules the cataphatic claims to knowledge
Jews hold God and truth are beyond human comprehension
So is evolution
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