• The Kingdom of God.

    From James to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Fri Jan 9 20:00:33 2026
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    The Kingdom of Almighty God.

    Are we really in the last days? If so, you MUST see a group of people
    with one overwhelming theme; God's Kingdom. And it must be preached
    throughout the whole globe. ONLY THEN, WILL THE END COME. Mt 24:14,

    -- New Jerusalem with Apocrypha
    Matthew 24:14 `This good news of the kingdom will be proclaimed to the
    whole world as evidence to the nations. And then the end will come.

    But who is doing it? They must be super organized to preach to the
    entire world. And this all free, like Jesus said 'you received free,
    give free'.

    People who want to fulfil it, do so by preaching the Good News about
    the Kingdom of God. So what it that Kingdom of God? How important is
    it?
    Jesus was sent to proclaim the Kingdom of God:

    -- New King James
    Luke 4:43 but He said to them, "I must preach the kingdom of God to
    the other cities also, because for this purpose I have been sent.''

    The Kingdom of God is God's government, with Jesus as its highest
    king. God will remove all the obstacles that cause pain; divorces,
    wicked men, starvation, and even death itself. Isn't that Good News?
    (the word "gospel" means "Good News") We can certainly use such
    conditions right now, can't we?

    But who is God using to fulfill Mt 24:14?

    See the proof yourself.
    The Watchtower magazine has on its cover:

    "ANNOUNCING JEHOVAH'S KINGDOM"

    Thus for the last 70+ years, people have been receiving the Kingdom
    Message. Watchtowers are usually left at doors when no one is home.
    Worldly governments are contacted by many, many JW's when some of our
    people are falsely imprisoned for the preaching work.

    Most all JW's are happy. They know what the future holds. Can you say
    the same for your church?

    At any rate, enjoy the gift of life God gave to you.

    "Does God Care About You?
    When disaster strikes, many turn to God for help. But is he paying
    attention?
    Find Out".
    See jw.org (1/9/2026)
    James: zebrabible@proton.me


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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Fri Jan 9 19:45:03 2026
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    Watchtower Heretic James <James> wrote: ========================================
    The Kingdom of Almighty God.

    Are we really in the last days? If so, you MUST see a group of people
    with one overwhelming theme; God's Kingdom. And it must be preached throughout the whole globe. ONLY THEN, WILL THE END COME. Mt 24:14,


    "Jehovah's Witnesses" are NOT out proclaiming the saving gospel of
    Christ's death and resurrection for our sins (Romans 1:16-17; 10:17; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4). They are like the Scribes and Pharisees whom the
    Lord REBUKES for traveling across sea and land to make a single
    proselyte who becomes twice as much a child of hell as they are:

    rCLWoe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel
    across sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he
    becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell
    as yourselves.rCY (Matthew 23:15, ESV)
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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  • From James to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sat Jan 10 12:31:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 19:45:03 -0600, Christ Rose
    <usenet@christrose.news> wrote:

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    Fri, 09 Jan 2026 20:00:33 -0500
    <de72mkpd27ubtu25fc5lq2cbcp0hbmg93n@4ax.com>
    Watchtower Heretic James <James> wrote: >========================================
    The Kingdom of Almighty God.

    Are we really in the last days? If so, you MUST see a group of people
    with one overwhelming theme; God's Kingdom. And it must be preached
    throughout the whole globe. ONLY THEN, WILL THE END COME. Mt 24:14,


    "Jehovah's Witnesses" are NOT out proclaiming the saving gospel of
    Christ's death and resurrection for our sins (Romans 1:16-17; 10:17; 1 >Corinthians 15:1-4). They are like the Scribes and Pharisees whom the
    Lord REBUKES for traveling across sea and land to make a single
    proselyte who becomes twice as much a child of hell as they are:

    Recall, "hell" in the Bible NT is "Hades". which means the grave.


    oWoe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel
    across sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he
    becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell
    as yourselves.o (Matthew 23:15, ESV)

    Yes, that was the Scribes and Pharisees. But here is something you
    seriously need to think about:

    22. "Many will say to Me in that day, `Lord, Lord, have we not
    prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many
    wonders in Your name?'
    23. "And then I will declare to them, `I never knew you; depart from
    Me, you who practice lawlessness!' (Mt 7:22,23; NKJV)

    THEN WHERE ARE THEY AT!! If it isn't JW's who are fulfilling Mt 24:14
    about God's Kingdom, show me who is?
    Remember, every country must be notified about God's Kingdom and what
    it will accomplish. And this must all happen during the last days.
    Where are they??

    "Does God Care About You?
    When disaster strikes, many turn to God for help. But is he paying
    attention?
    Find Out".
    See jw.org (1/10/2026)
    James: zebrabible@proton.me
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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sat Jan 10 12:17:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

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    Fri, 09 Jan 2026 20:00:33 -0500
    <de72mkpd27ubtu25fc5lq2cbcp0hbmg93n@4ax.com>
    Watchtower Heretic James <James> wrote: ========================================
    The Kingdom of Almighty God.

    Are we really in the last days? If so, you MUST see a group of people
    with one overwhelming theme; God's Kingdom. And it must be preached throughout the whole globe. ONLY THEN, WILL THE END COME. Mt 24:14,

    The False "Kingdom" Gospel Of Zealous Legalistic Hypocrites

    rCLBut woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the
    kingdom of heaven in peoplerCOs faces. For you neither enter yourselves
    nor allow those who would enter to go in. Woe to you, scribes and
    Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel across sea and land to make a
    single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as
    much a child of hell as yourselves.rCY (Matthew 23:13rCo15, ESV)

    By confusing the stages of GodrCOs Kingdom program, rCLJehovahrCOs WitnessesrCY
    eliminate the saving gospel of ChristrCOs death and resurrection and
    replace it with a legalistic message that cannot reconcile sinners to
    God or prepare them for the Kingdom to come. While boasting about
    proclaiming God's kingdom, they actually shut the door of the kingdom in
    men's faces. Far from pointing to them as God's people doing the will of
    God, their religious zeal bears the fruit of making men twice the
    children of eternal conscious torment as they are.

    James points to rCLJehovahrCOs WitnessesrCY aggressive outreach ministry as evidence they are GodrCOs people doing GodrCOs work on earth, proclaiming
    the gospel of the kingdom. Christ, however, directly dismantles the
    assumption that zeal, reach, or global effort validates a message or its messengers. The scribes and Pharisees displayed extraordinary religious dedication. They crossed land and sea to gain converts. Yet Christ
    declared that their message shut the kingdom of heaven, barred entry for themselves, and made those who followed them twice as much a child of
    hell as they were. Their problem was not a lack of activity, but a
    corrupt gospel. They confused external obedience with inward
    righteousness and replaced faith with law. That same danger confronts
    any movement that elevates organizational zeal, survival, and reform
    above reconciliation with God through ChristrCOs atoning death and resurrection. The issue is not whether a group proclaims a rCLkingdom,rCY
    but whether it proclaims the only gospel that grants entrance into it.

    THE SAVING GOSPEL PROCLAIMED IN THIS ERA

    Entrance into GodrCOs Kingdom during this era occurs through regeneration,
    not reform. Jesus stated the requirement plainly: rCLUnless one is born
    again he cannot see the kingdom of GodrCY (John 3:3, ESV). In context,
    Jesus explains that this new birth occurs through faith in GodrCOs saving provision: rCLwhoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal liferCY (John 3:16, ESV).

    The apostles defined the gospel with precision and finality: rCLthat
    Christ died for our sinsrCa that he was buried, that he was raised on the third dayrCY (1 Corinthians 15:3rCo4, ESV). This gospel addresses manrCOs present and fundamental problemrCoguilt before God. It proclaims substitutionary atonement accomplished by ChristrCOs death and
    resurrection, not atonement achieved through personal suffering,
    obedience, or endurance.

    Paul explains the present purpose of God without ambiguity: rCLBut now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the lawrCa through
    faith in Jesus Christ for all who believerCY (Romans 3:21rCo22, ESV). This righteousness is received, not earned.

    This is the message Christ commanded the disciples to proclaim during
    the church age: rCLthat the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead, and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nationsrCY (Luke 24:46rCo47, ESV).

    THE ORDER OF GODrCOS KINGDOM PROGRAM

    ChristrCOs future reign over the earth is not the means of salvation. It
    is the result of salvation already accomplished and received. Scripture consistently presents a clear sequence:

    First, Christ suffers and dies to atone for sins.
    Then, the gospel goes to Jew and Gentile alike.
    Later, Christ returns to reign in glory.

    The disciples initially misunderstood this order and expected immediate kingdom restoration: rCLLord, will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?rCY (Acts 1:6, ESV). Christ corrected them by redirecting them to
    the present mission: rCLyou will receive powerrCa and you will be my witnessesrCY (Acts 1:8, ESV).

    Paul explains this delay in Romans 9rCo11, showing that God opened the
    door of salvation to the Gentiles before IsraelrCOs kingdom restoration:
    rCLA partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come inrCY (Romans 11:25, ESV).

    During this era, the Kingdom operates inwardly and spiritually through regeneration and faith: rCLthe kingdom of God isrCa righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy SpiritrCY (Romans 14:17, ESV).

    The gospel is the doorway into ChristrCOs future reign. No one enters that Kingdom without first being reconciled to God through ChristrCOs atonement.

    WHAT rCLJEHOVAHrCOS WITNESSESrCY PROCLAIM AS THE rCLKINGDOMrCY MESSAGE

    rCLJehovahrCOs WitnessesrCY redefine the rCLgood news of the KingdomrCY as a warning about imminent destruction and a call to submit to GodrCOs Kingdom government in order to survive into the coming earthly order.

    They state: rCLGodrCOs Kingdom is a real governmentrCa It will soon destroy all human governmentsrCY (rCLWhat Is GodrCOs Kingdom?rCY, jw.org).

    They further state: rCLOnly those who choose to support GodrCOs Kingdom will survive the end of this system of thingsrCY (rCLWhat Does the Bible Say
    About the Future?rCY, jw.org).

    In this framework, the Kingdom message is not primarily about
    forgiveness of sins accomplished by Christ, but about aligning with a
    future system, obeying organizational directives, and enduring until the
    end.

    Crucially, rCLJehovahrCOs WitnessesrCY deny that ChristrCOs death fully atones for sin in the present. They teach that individuals ultimately pay for
    their own sins through death and must demonstrate loyalty through
    obedience and works. Their literature states: rCLEach person who dies pays
    the penalty for his own sinsrCY (What Does the Bible Really Teach?, Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society).

    THE POINT OF DEVIATION

    The disciples preached a gospel that saves sinners now through faith in ChristrCOs finished atonement, in anticipation of His future reign.

    rCLJehovahrCOs WitnessesrCY collapse ChristrCOs future Kingdom administration into the present gospel era and replace forgiveness through the cross
    with a program of survival, obedience, and endurance.

    Scripture insists on the necessary order: rCLWas it not necessary that the Christ should suffer these things and enter into his glory?rCY (Luke
    24:26, ESV).

    The apostles proclaimed the cross as the only entrance into the Kingdom,
    now and forever: rCLThrough this man forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to yourCY (Acts 13:38, ESV).

    By confusing the stages of GodrCOs Kingdom program, rCLJehovahrCOs WitnessesrCY
    seek to eliminate the saving gospel of ChristrCOs death and resurrection
    and replace it with a legalistic message that cannot reconcile sinners
    to God or prepare them for the Kingdom to come.

    Works Cited

    rCLWhat Is GodrCOs Kingdom?rCY JehovahrCOs Witnesses, [https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-is-gods-kingdom/](https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-is-gods-kingdom/).
    Accessed 2026.

    rCLWhat Does the Bible Say About the Future?rCY JehovahrCOs Witnesses, [https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/bible-says-about-the-future/](https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/bible-says-about-the-future/).
    Accessed 2026.

    What Does the Bible Really Teach? Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, [https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/bible-teach/](https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/bible-teach/).
    Accessed 2026.
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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    images and website formatting, subscribe to my feed in a client like Thunderbird:

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sat Jan 10 14:28:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

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    Sat, 10 Jan 2026 12:31:44 -0500
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    Watchtower Heretic James <James> wrote: ========================================
    On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 19:45:03 -0600, Christ Rose
    <usenet@christrose.news> wrote:

    ========================================
    Fri, 09 Jan 2026 20:00:33 -0500
    <de72mkpd27ubtu25fc5lq2cbcp0hbmg93n@4ax.com>
    Watchtower Heretic James <James> wrote:
    ========================================
    The Kingdom of Almighty God.

    Are we really in the last days? If so, you MUST see a group of people
    with one overwhelming theme; God's Kingdom. And it must be preached
    throughout the whole globe. ONLY THEN, WILL THE END COME. Mt 24:14,

    "Jehovah's Witnesses" are NOT out proclaiming the saving gospel of
    Christ's death and resurrection for our sins (Romans 1:16-17; 10:17; 1
    Corinthians 15:1-4). They are like the Scribes and Pharisees whom the
    Lord REBUKES for traveling across sea and land to make a single
    proselyte who becomes twice as much a child of hell as they are:
    Recall, "hell" in the Bible NT is "Hades". which means the grave.

    rCLWoe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel
    across sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he
    becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell
    as yourselves.rCY (Matthew 23:15, ESV)

    Yes, that was the Scribes and Pharisees. But here is something you
    seriously need to think about:


    Jesus' rebuke of the scribes and Pharisees PROVES that one should not
    try to CONFUSE religious zeal and an aggressive global pursuit of
    converts with the saving gospel of Jesus Christ. He said their activity
    would succeed only in making their proselytes "twice as much a child of
    hell as yourselves".

    No one should CONFUSE the mere fact that people are out aggressively proclaiming a message, with the idea they MUST BE God's chosen people
    doing the will of God on earth. These people were the satanically
    manipulated, "hypocritical" antichrists whose claimed "sincere" efforts
    led men to become TWICE the children of eternal conscious torment in the
    lake of fire as they themselves were.


    22. "Many will say to Me in that day, `Lord, Lord, have we not
    prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many
    wonders in Your name?'
    23. "And then I will declare to them, `I never knew you; depart from
    Me, you who practice lawlessness!' (Mt 7:22,23; NKJV)


    rCLJesus answered him, rCLTruly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born
    again he cannot see the kingdom of God.rCYrCY (John 3:3, ESV)

    No one gets into God's kingdom without first being "born again". John
    shows this is through faith in Christ's death and resurrection for our
    sins (John 3:14-15; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4). Persevering and enduring
    hardship to the end are EVIDENCE that one has been saved by faith, not a condition unregenerate men have meet to earn salvation.


    THEN WHERE ARE THEY AT!!


    idem.

    Observe that you are not asking "where are the people who are out
    proclaiming the true, saving gospel?" You're asking where are the people
    who say "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out
    demons in your name, and done many wonders in Your name?", and who then
    hear Christ telling them depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness
    (Mt. 7:22, 23).

    Who are the people who think they're doing God a favor but who are
    really doing the work of Satan by promoting a false gospel which will
    lead men to eternal, conscious torment in the lake of fire? "ANYONE" (Galatians 1:8-9) who proclaims "ANY OTHER GOSPEL" (emphasis mine) than
    the one Paul preached (Galatians 1:8-9; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4; Romans
    1:16; 10:17): Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures, was buried, and rose again the third day, according to the Scriptures. Justification comes through faith in Christ alone, not by our works (Galatians, Romans, Ephesians).

    This would include "Jehovah's Witnesses". They don't even preach the
    necessity of Christ's atonement for men's sins. They claim men's own
    death pays for them. You CLEARLY promote the kind of "evangelistic zeal"
    which leads men to bypass the saving gospel to become twice the children
    of eternal conscious torment in the lake of fire as you will become. You proclaim a legalistic gospel of merit rather than salvation by grace,
    through faith in Christ. No one has the internal power of the indwelling
    Holy Spirit to enter into or obey the Kingdom of God, until He has first
    been "born again" through faith in Christ's death and resurrection as
    the only (John 14:6) and all-sufficient (Hebrews 10:14) atonement for
    his sins (Romans 3:23-25).



    If it isn't JW's who are fulfilling Mt 24:14


    LIE #1 "JW's" are fulfilling Matthew 24:14. They are not. They promote religious, legalistic zeal just like the scribes and Pharisees. Their aggressive, global outreach is calculated by Satan to deny the need for Christ's death and resurrection as the atonement for men's sins, so as
    to make men the TWOFOLD children of the lake of fire as they are. They
    promote a FALSE, DAMNED gospel which denies Christ (Galatians 1:8-9).

    LIE #2 "No one else" is fulfilling Matthew 24:14. I and EVERY church I
    have EVER ATTENDED has done it, not only locally, but by supporting international missionaries who proclaim the gospel.

    LIE #3 It's okay to IGNORE what the epistles say about the gospels and FREE-LANCE interpret on my own, since incomplete revelation makes it
    easier to twist the truth.

    Sound hermeneutics doesn't just free-lance interpret the gospels apart
    from what Christ revealed to the apostles by the Holy Spirit. Jesus said
    He had many things to tell the disciples for which they were not then
    ready, but that He would first send the Holy Spirit to guide them into
    "all truth" (John 16:12-13). The Spirit arrived at Pentecost (Acts
    2:1-4). The epistles to the churches are the additional, divinely
    inspired commentary on and application of the gospels as they pertain to
    those living in this church era (2 Timothy 3:16-17; cf. 1 Peter 3:15-16; Revelation 1-4).

    The Epistles clearly show that God temporarily set the nation of Israel
    aside for unbelief (Romans 11:20), so that He could open the door of
    salvation to the Gentiles (Romans 10-11). He said that this door of
    salvation would be open until the "fullness of the Gentiles be come in" (Romans 11:25). THEN, God would resume His covenant promises with the
    nation Israel (Romans 11:26-27).

    So there will be an intervening church era during which the Gentiles are coming to God for salvation. These people come to faith in Christ
    through the gospel of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins
    (Romans 1:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4). That's how church-era people
    enter into the kingdom of God.

    You try to CONFUSE the "gospel" era with "the end" (Great Tribulation
    and events which follow it).


    about God's Kingdom, show me who is?
    Remember, every country must be notified about God's Kingdom and what
    it will accomplish. And this must all happen during the last days.
    Where are they??


    Idem. See above. It has been happening since the days of Acts, and it continues in every church I've ever been associated with. PRETENDING
    like "Jehovah's Witnesses" out promoting the gospel when they flatly and emphatically deny the need for Christ's death and resurrection to
    justify and save men. 'Jehovah's Witnesses" promote the same kind of LEGALISTIC FALSE gospel as the Scribes and Pharisees.

    The False "Kingdom" Gospel Of Zealous Legalistic Hypocrites

    rCLBut woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the
    kingdom of heaven in peoplerCOs faces. For you neither enter yourselves
    nor allow those who would enter to go in. Woe to you, scribes and
    Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel across sea and land to make a
    single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as
    much a child of hell as yourselves.rCY (Matthew 23:13rCo15, ESV)

    By confusing the stages of GodrCOs Kingdom program, rCLJehovahrCOs WitnessesrCY
    eliminate the saving gospel of ChristrCOs death and resurrection and
    replace it with a legalistic message that cannot reconcile sinners to
    God or prepare them for the Kingdom to come. While boasting about
    proclaiming God's kingdom, they actually shut the door of the kingdom in
    men's faces. Far from pointing to them as God's people doing the will of
    God, their religious zeal bears the fruit of making men twice the
    children of eternal conscious torment as they are.

    James points to rCLJehovahrCOs WitnessesrCY aggressive outreach ministry as evidence they are GodrCOs people doing GodrCOs work on earth, proclaiming
    the gospel of the kingdom. Christ, however, directly dismantles the
    assumption that zeal, reach, or global effort validates a message or its messengers. The scribes and Pharisees displayed extraordinary religious dedication. They crossed land and sea to gain converts. Yet Christ
    declared that their message shut the kingdom of heaven, barred entry for themselves, and made those who followed them twice as much a child of
    hell as they were. Their problem was not a lack of activity, but a
    corrupt gospel. They confused external obedience with inward
    righteousness and replaced faith with law. That same danger confronts
    any movement that elevates organizational zeal, survival, and reform
    above reconciliation with God through ChristrCOs atoning death and resurrection. The issue is not whether a group proclaims a rCLkingdom,rCY
    but whether it proclaims the only gospel that grants entrance into it.

    THE SAVING GOSPEL PROCLAIMED IN THIS ERA

    Entrance into GodrCOs Kingdom during this era occurs through regeneration,
    not reform. Jesus stated the requirement plainly: rCLUnless one is born
    again he cannot see the kingdom of GodrCY (John 3:3, ESV). In context,
    Jesus explains that this new birth occurs through faith in GodrCOs saving provision: rCLwhoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal liferCY (John 3:16, ESV).

    The apostles defined the gospel with precision and finality: rCLthat
    Christ died for our sinsrCa that he was buried, that he was raised on the third dayrCY (1 Corinthians 15:3rCo4, ESV). This gospel addresses manrCOs present and fundamental problemrCoguilt before God. It proclaims substitutionary atonement accomplished by ChristrCOs death and
    resurrection, not atonement achieved through personal suffering,
    obedience, or endurance.

    Paul explains the present purpose of God without ambiguity: rCLBut now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the lawrCa through
    faith in Jesus Christ for all who believerCY (Romans 3:21rCo22, ESV). This righteousness is received, not earned.

    This is the message Christ commanded the disciples to proclaim during
    the church age: rCLthat the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead, and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nationsrCY (Luke 24:46rCo47, ESV).

    THE ORDER OF GODrCOS KINGDOM PROGRAM

    ChristrCOs future reign over the earth is not the means of salvation. It
    is the result of salvation already accomplished and received. Scripture consistently presents a clear sequence:

    First, Christ suffers and dies to atone for sins.
    Then, the gospel goes to Jew and Gentile alike.
    Later, Christ returns to reign in glory.

    The disciples initially misunderstood this order and expected immediate kingdom restoration: rCLLord, will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?rCY (Acts 1:6, ESV). Christ corrected them by redirecting them to
    the present mission: rCLyou will receive powerrCa and you will be my witnessesrCY (Acts 1:8, ESV).

    Paul explains this delay in Romans 9rCo11, showing that God opened the
    door of salvation to the Gentiles before IsraelrCOs kingdom restoration:
    rCLA partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come inrCY (Romans 11:25, ESV).

    During this era, the Kingdom operates inwardly and spiritually through regeneration and faith: rCLthe kingdom of God isrCa righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy SpiritrCY (Romans 14:17, ESV).

    The gospel is the doorway into ChristrCOs future reign. No one enters that Kingdom without first being reconciled to God through ChristrCOs atonement.

    WHAT rCLJEHOVAHrCOS WITNESSESrCY PROCLAIM AS THE rCLKINGDOMrCY MESSAGE

    rCLJehovahrCOs WitnessesrCY redefine the rCLgood news of the KingdomrCY as a warning about imminent destruction and a call to submit to GodrCOs Kingdom government in order to survive into the coming earthly order.

    They state: rCLGodrCOs Kingdom is a real governmentrCa It will soon destroy all human governmentsrCY (rCLWhat Is GodrCOs Kingdom?rCY, jw.org).

    They further state: rCLOnly those who choose to support GodrCOs Kingdom will survive the end of this system of thingsrCY (rCLWhat Does the Bible Say
    About the Future?rCY, jw.org).

    In this framework, the Kingdom message is not primarily about
    forgiveness of sins accomplished by Christ, but about aligning with a
    future system, obeying organizational directives, and enduring until the
    end.

    Crucially, rCLJehovahrCOs WitnessesrCY deny that ChristrCOs death fully atones for sin in the present. They teach that individuals ultimately pay for
    their own sins through death and must demonstrate loyalty through
    obedience and works. Their literature states: rCLEach person who dies pays
    the penalty for his own sinsrCY (What Does the Bible Really Teach?, Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society).

    THE POINT OF DEVIATION

    The disciples preached a gospel that saves sinners now through faith in ChristrCOs finished atonement, in anticipation of His future reign.

    rCLJehovahrCOs WitnessesrCY collapse ChristrCOs future Kingdom administration into the present gospel era and replace forgiveness through the cross
    with a program of survival, obedience, and endurance.

    Scripture insists on the necessary order: rCLWas it not necessary that the Christ should suffer these things and enter into his glory?rCY (Luke
    24:26, ESV).

    The apostles proclaimed the cross as the only entrance into the Kingdom,
    now and forever: rCLThrough this man forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to yourCY (Acts 13:38, ESV).

    By confusing the stages of GodrCOs Kingdom program, rCLJehovahrCOs WitnessesrCY
    seek to eliminate the saving gospel of ChristrCOs death and resurrection
    and replace it with a legalistic message that cannot reconcile sinners
    to God or prepare them for the Kingdom to come.

    Works Cited

    rCLWhat Is GodrCOs Kingdom?rCY JehovahrCOs Witnesses, [https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-is-gods-kingdom/](https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-is-gods-kingdom/).
    Accessed 2026.

    rCLWhat Does the Bible Say About the Future?rCY JehovahrCOs Witnesses, [https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/bible-says-about-the-future/](https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/bible-says-about-the-future/).
    Accessed 2026.

    What Does the Bible Really Teach? Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, [https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/bible-teach/](https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/bible-teach/).
    Accessed 2026.
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.bible,alt.christnet.bible,alt.christnet.christianlife,christnet.bible,christnet.bible.study on Sat Jan 10 15:46:47 2026
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    ========================================
    Sat, 10 Jan 2026 14:28:44 -0600 <cc51ee66-355a-4046-a27b-5319c0032be9@christrose.news>
    Watchtower Heretic James <Christ Rose <usenet@christrose.news>> wrote: ========================================

    "Jehovah's Witnesses" are NOT out proclaiming the saving gospel of
    Christ's death and resurrection for our sins (Romans 1:16-17; 10:17; 1
    Corinthians 15:1-4). They are like the Scribes and Pharisees whom the
    Lord REBUKES for traveling across sea and land to make a single
    proselyte who becomes twice as much a child of hell as they are:


    Remember, the INTENT to DECEIVE people is EXPOSED when you try to dodge, distract, and steer people AWAY from the truth with diversions.


    Recall, "hell" in the Bible NT is "Hades". which means the grave.


    rCo This DIVERSION does not address the FACT that "Jehovah's
    Witnesses are NOT out proclaiming the saving gospel of Christ's
    death and resurrection for our sins, as the apostles did
    (Romans 1:16-17; 10:17; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4). Paul said anyone
    who preaches "any other gospel" than the one he delivered to
    them, should be eternally condemned (Galatians 1:8-9).

    rCo It is not I who fails to "recall" the meaning of "Hades" after
    already being told about it 20 times, but you. You PRETEND you
    don't remember the documented proof that you promote LIES about
    the meaning of "Hades":

    The New Testament uses three distinct words, and Scripture does not
    collapse them into one meaning.

    Hades (b+a+|++-e)

    Hades refers to the realm of the dead, not merely a grave. It
    corresponds to Sheol in the Old Testament. It is a conscious
    intermediate state, not non-existence.
    The rich man lifts up his eyes in Hades, being in torment (Luke 16:23, ESV).

    Hades will give up the dead who are in it before final judgment
    (Revelation 20:13, ESV).

    A literal grave does not speak, feel torment, or surrender occupants for judgment.

    Gehenna (+|+!+|+++++#)

    Gehenna is not the grave. Jesus uses it for final judgment after
    resurrection.

    Fear him who can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna (Matthew 10:28, ESV).

    The grave cannot touch the soul. Jesus distinguishes physical death from post-judgment punishment.

    Tartarus (-a+#-U-a+#-U-i-e)

    This term applies to fallen angels, not humans.
    God cast them into Tartarus and committed them to chains of gloomy
    darkness (2 Peter 2:4, ESV).

    This confirms conscious restraint, not cessation.

    Key biblical distinctions

    The grave (mn-omeion, -a+4-a++-e) holds bodies.
    Hades holds conscious persons awaiting judgment.
    Gehenna describes final, irreversible judgment after resurrection.

    Jesus affirms conscious existence after physical death.

    "Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul"
    (Matthew 10:28, ESV).

    To be absent from the body means to be present with the Lord (2
    Corinthians 5:8, ESV).

    Conclusion

    Hades does not mean rCLthe graverCY in the sense of unconscious
    non-existence. Scripture presents it as a real, conscious intermediate
    state. The New Testament language remains consistent, precise, and
    mutually reinforcing across the Gospels, Epistles, and Revelation.
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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  • From James to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sun Jan 11 11:29:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 12:17:25 -0600, Christ Rose
    <usenet@christrose.news> wrote:

    ========================================
    Fri, 09 Jan 2026 20:00:33 -0500
    <de72mkpd27ubtu25fc5lq2cbcp0hbmg93n@4ax.com>
    Watchtower Heretic James <James> wrote: >========================================
    The Kingdom of Almighty God.

    Are we really in the last days? If so, you MUST see a group of people
    with one overwhelming theme; God's Kingdom. And it must be preached
    throughout the whole globe. ONLY THEN, WILL THE END COME. Mt 24:14,

    The False "Kingdom" Gospel Of Zealous Legalistic Hypocrites

    oBut woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the
    kingdom of heaven in peopleAs faces. For you neither enter yourselves
    nor allow those who would enter to go in. Woe to you, scribes and
    Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel across sea and land to make a
    single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as >much a child of hell as yourselves.o (Matthew 23:13u15, ESV)

    Wow, you got one heck of a day to come for you. Notice again:

    "21. "Not everyone who says to Me, `Lord, Lord,' shall enter the
    kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
    22. "Many will say to Me in that day, `Lord, Lord, have we not
    prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many
    wonders in Your name?'
    23. "And then I will declare to them, `I never knew you; depart from
    Me, you who practice lawlessness!'"

    It's almost made as if for you. You frequently preach about Jesus'
    sacrifice. And you rarely take up other doctrines from the Bible. Thus
    it fits you to a tee. (I hope it won't remain so though.


    By confusing the stages of GodAs Kingdom program, oJehovahAs Witnesseso >eliminate the saving gospel of ChristAs death and resurrection and
    replace it with a legalistic message that cannot reconcile sinners to
    God or prepare them for the Kingdom to come. While boasting about >proclaiming God's kingdom, they actually shut the door of the kingdom in >men's faces. Far from pointing to them as God's people doing the will of >God, their religious zeal bears the fruit of making men twice the
    children of eternal conscious torment as they are.

    -- King James
    Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the
    dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the
    memory of them is forgotten.

    - King James
    Psalms 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in
    that very day his thoughts perish.

    - King James
    John 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them,
    Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of
    sleep.

    Ignore the Bible , and God will ignore you.


    James points to oJehovahAs Witnesseso aggressive outreach ministry as >evidence they are GodAs people doing GodAs work on earth, proclaiming
    the gospel of the kingdom. Christ, however, directly dismantles the >assumption that zeal, reach, or global effort validates a message or its >messengers. The scribes and Pharisees displayed extraordinary religious >dedication. They crossed land and sea to gain converts. Yet Christ
    declared that their message shut the kingdom of heaven, barred entry for >themselves, and made those who followed them twice as much a child of
    hell as they were. Their problem was not a lack of activity, but a
    corrupt gospel. They confused external obedience with inward
    righteousness and replaced faith with law. That same danger confronts
    any movement that elevates organizational zeal, survival, and reform
    above reconciliation with God through ChristAs atoning death and >resurrection. The issue is not whether a group proclaims a okingdom,o
    but whether it proclaims the only gospel that grants entrance into it.

    Regardless, you have to really see a world-wide preaching of the
    Kingdom, if it is the last days. From your point of view, we preach a
    false kingdom message. But I would like to know then, WHO IS
    PROCLAIMING THE Mt 24:14 message?

    I have asked you several times last time, who those people are? I
    still haven't got an answer. Actually, that was Jesus main theme in
    his talks.

    -- New King James
    Luke 4:43 but He said to them, "I must preach the kingdom of God to
    the other cities also, because for this purpose I have been sent.''

    So the Kingdom Message was of PRIME importance to Jesus. Shouldn't it
    be for you also?


    THE SAVING GOSPEL PROCLAIMED IN THIS ERA

    Entrance into GodAs Kingdom during this era occurs through regeneration,
    not reform. Jesus stated the requirement plainly: oUnless one is born
    again he cannot see the kingdom of Godo (John 3:3, ESV). In context,
    Jesus explains that this new birth occurs through faith in GodAs saving >provision: owhoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal
    lifeo (John 3:16, ESV).

    The "born again" people are the 144,000 ones who are going to Heaven.
    Do you have to be born again to get eternal life?
    Negatrons. Notice carefully:

    "Can a person who is not oborn againo be saved?
    Rev. 7:9, 10,a17: oAfter these things [after the apostle John heard
    the number of those who would be oborn again,o those who would make up spiritual Israel and would be with Christ in heaven; compare Romans 2:28,a29aand Galatians 3:26-29] I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which
    no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples
    and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed
    in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. And they
    keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: aSalvation we owe to our
    God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.Aa.a.a. aThe Lamb
    [Jesus Christ], who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them,
    and will guide them to fountains of waters of life.Ao
    After listing many pre-Christian persons of faith, Hebrews
    11:39,a40asays: oAll these, although they had witness borne to them
    through their faith, did not get the fulfillment of the promise, as
    God foresaw something better for us, in order that they might not be
    made perfect apart from us.o (Who are here meant by ouso? Hebrews 3:1
    shows that they are opartakers of the heavenly calling.o The
    pre-Christian persons who had faith, then, must have a hope for
    perfect life somewhere other than in heaven.)
    Ps. 37:29: oThe righteous themselves will possess the earth, and they
    will reside forever upon it.o
    Rev. 21:3,a4: oLook! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will
    reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will
    be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and
    death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be
    anymore. The former things have passed away.o
    Is it possible for a person to have GodAs spirit and yet not be oborn
    againo?
    Regarding John the baptizer, JehovahAs angel said: oHe will be filled
    with holy spirit right from his motherAs womb.o (Luke 1:15) And Jesus
    later said: oAmong those born of women there has not been raised up a
    greater than John the Baptist; but a person that is a lesser one in
    the kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is [Why? Because John
    will not be in the heavens and so there was no need for him to be
    oborn againo]. But from the days of John the Baptist until now [when
    Jesus stated this] the kingdom of the heavens is the goal toward which
    men press.ouMatt. 11:11,a12."
    (Reasoning from the Scriptures,pp 77-79)



    The apostles defined the gospel with precision and finality: othat
    Christ died for our sinsa that he was buried, that he was raised on the >third dayo (1 Corinthians 15:3u4, ESV). This gospel addresses manAs
    present and fundamental problemuguilt before God. It proclaims >substitutionary atonement accomplished by ChristAs death and
    resurrection, not atonement achieved through personal suffering,
    obedience, or endurance.

    No, we can't save ourselves. We all need Jesus' ransom sacrifice for
    that, as I have said a zillion times. But apparently you are not
    listening.


    Paul explains the present purpose of God without ambiguity: oBut now the >righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the lawa through
    faith in Jesus Christ for all who believeo (Romans 3:21u22, ESV). This >righteousness is received, not earned.

    Negatrons. It can be earned:

    -- New King James
    Matthew 24:13 "But he who endures to the end shall be saved.

    If it was automatically given to him, there would be no need to
    'endure to the end'.


    This is the message Christ commanded the disciples to proclaim during
    the church age: othat the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise >from the dead, and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be >proclaimed in his name to all nationso (Luke 24:46u47, ESV).

    "church age?" Let's see what Jesus said:

    - New Revised Standard with Apocrypha
    Luke 4:43 But he said to them, "I must proclaim the good news of the
    kingdom of God to the other cities also; for I was sent for this
    purpose."

    Those are Jesus' own words.



    THE ORDER OF GODAS KINGDOM PROGRAM

    ChristAs future reign over the earth is not the means of salvation. It
    is the result of salvation already accomplished and received. Scripture >consistently presents a clear sequence:

    First, Christ suffers and dies to atone for sins.
    Then, the gospel goes to Jew and Gentile alike.
    Later, Christ returns to reign in glory.

    The disciples initially misunderstood this order and expected immediate >kingdom restoration: oLord, will you at this time restore the kingdom to >Israel?o (Acts 1:6, ESV). Christ corrected them by redirecting them to
    the present mission: oyou will receive powera and you will be my
    witnesseso (Acts 1:8, ESV).

    Yes, all of that happened as the Scriptures said.


    Paul explains this delay in Romans 9u11, showing that God opened the
    door of salvation to the Gentiles before IsraelAs kingdom restoration:
    oA partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the >Gentiles has come ino (Romans 11:25, ESV).

    OK.

    During this era, the Kingdom operates inwardly and spiritually through >regeneration and faith: othe kingdom of God isa righteousness and peace
    and joy in the Holy Spirito (Romans 14:17, ESV).

    The KJV says falsely that the "Kingdom of God is within you". (Lu
    17:21)

    If you compare that Scripture to many others, you will see a
    difference:

    - Revised Standard
    Luke 17:21 nor will they say, 'Lo, here it is!' or 'There!' for
    behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you."

    Remember, God's upcoming kingdom is a THEOCRATIC GOVERNMENT. How can
    you have a powerful government "inside" of you?


    The gospel is the doorway into ChristAs future reign. No one enters that >Kingdom without first being reconciled to God through ChristAs atonement.

    WHAT oJEHOVAHAS WITNESSESo PROCLAIM AS THE oKINGDOMo MESSAGE

    oJehovahAs Witnesseso redefine the ogood news of the Kingdomo as a
    warning about imminent destruction and a call to submit to GodAs Kingdom >government in order to survive into the coming earthly order.

    OK

    They state: oGodAs Kingdom is a real governmenta It will soon destroy
    all human governmentso (oWhat Is GodAs Kingdom?o, jw.org).

    OK

    They further state: oOnly those who choose to support GodAs Kingdom will >survive the end of this system of thingso (oWhat Does the Bible Say
    About the Future?o, jw.org).

    True. Fulfilling Mt 24:14 is part of the supporting work.


    In this framework, the Kingdom message is not primarily about
    forgiveness of sins accomplished by Christ, but about aligning with a
    future system, obeying organizational directives, and enduring until the >end.

    Yes, we are all supposed to obey those in charge.


    Crucially, oJehovahAs Witnesseso deny that ChristAs death fully atones
    for sin in the present. They teach that individuals ultimately pay for
    their own sins through death and must demonstrate loyalty through
    obedience and works.

    You know the truth, so it should set you free from Babylonish
    religion. What happened???

    Their literature states: oEach person who dies pays
    the penalty for his own sinso (What Does the Bible Really Teach?, Watch >Tower Bible and Tract Society).

    JW's follow the Bible, not men's doctrines. If Paul would never have
    said it, then we wouldn't teach it.

    -- Revised Standard
    Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God
    is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    -- New King James
    Romans 6:7 For he who has died has been freed from sin.

    - Revised Standard
    Romans 6:7 For he who has died is freed from sin.

    -- International English
    Romans 6:7 A person who dies has been set free from sin.

    -- New American Standard
    Romans 6:7 for he who has died is freed from sin.

    -- New Revised Standard with Apocrypha
    Romans 6:7 For whoever has died is freed from sin.

    -- Weymouth's New Testament
    Romans 6:7 for he who has paid the penalty of death stands absolved
    from his sin.

    -- Webster's Bible
    Romans 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

    - Montgomery New Testament
    Romans 6:7 for he who is dead is set free from sin.


    THE POINT OF DEVIATION

    The disciples preached a gospel that saves sinners now through faith in >ChristAs finished atonement, in anticipation of His future reign.

    oJehovahAs Witnesseso collapse ChristAs future Kingdom administration
    into the present gospel era and replace forgiveness through the cross
    with a program of survival, obedience, and endurance.

    Yes. Here it is again:

    The forgiveness of the staurus hasn't been compromised.

    -- Revised Standard
    Matthew 24:13 But he who endures to the end will be saved.


    Scripture insists on the necessary order: oWas it not necessary that the >Christ should suffer these things and enter into his glory?o (Luke
    24:26, ESV).

    OK

    The apostles proclaimed the cross as the only entrance into the Kingdom,
    now and forever: oThrough this man forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to
    youo (Acts 13:38, ESV).

    By confusing the stages of GodAs Kingdom program, oJehovahAs Witnesseso
    seek to eliminate the saving gospel of ChristAs death and resurrection
    and replace it with a legalistic message that cannot reconcile sinners
    to God or prepare them for the Kingdom to come.


    Yes, we all can benefit by Jesus' ransom. A person can forgive sins if
    God permits it. Jesus was the main one.

    But also, not a person, but DEATH removes sins. That information was
    given to Paul, so he could teach us. Here it is again:

    -- New King James
    Romans 6:7 For he who has died has been freed from sin.

    Works Cited

    oWhat Is GodAs Kingdom?o JehovahAs Witnesses, >[https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-is-gods-kingdom/](https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-is-gods-kingdom/).
    Accessed 2026.

    oWhat Does the Bible Say About the Future?o JehovahAs Witnesses, >[https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/bible-says-about-the-future/](https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/bible-says-about-the-future/).
    Accessed 2026.

    What Does the Bible Really Teach? Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, >[https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/bible-teach/](https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/bible-teach/).
    Accessed 2026.

    Nice to see you visited the JW web page. But too bad with the wrong
    attitude.

    "Does God Care About You?
    When disaster strikes, many turn to God for help. But is he paying
    attention?
    Find Out". See jw.org (1/11/2026)
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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sun Jan 11 13:15:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    ========================================
    Sun, 11 Jan 2026 11:29:05 -0500
    <3sa7mktccbrv2ng191hnslij5ul8amgjlg@4ax.com>
    Watchtower Heretic James <James> wrote: ========================================

    James points to rCLJehovahrCOs WitnessesrCY aggressive outreach ministry as >> evidence they are GodrCOs people doing GodrCOs work on earth, proclaiming
    the gospel of the kingdom. Christ, however, directly dismantles the
    assumption that zeal, reach, or global effort validates a message or its
    messengers. The scribes and Pharisees displayed extraordinary religious
    dedication. They crossed land and sea to gain converts. Yet Christ
    declared that their message shut the kingdom of heaven, barred entry for
    themselves, and made those who followed them twice as much a child of
    hell as they were. Their problem was not a lack of activity, but a
    corrupt gospel. They confused external obedience with inward
    righteousness and replaced faith with law. That same danger confronts
    any movement that elevates organizational zeal, survival, and reform
    above reconciliation with God through ChristrCOs atoning death and
    resurrection. The issue is not whether a group proclaims a rCLkingdom,rCY
    but whether it proclaims the only gospel that grants entrance into it.

    Regardless


    A fitting conclusion for the basis of your lies and false teachings. "Regardless" of what the Bible teaches, you seek to promote a system of
    lies that contradict it.
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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    images and website formatting, subscribe to my feed in a client like Thunderbird:

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sun Jan 11 13:34:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    ========================================
    Sun, 11 Jan 2026 11:29:05 -0500
    <3sa7mktccbrv2ng191hnslij5ul8amgjlg@4ax.com>
    Watchtower Heretic James <James> wrote: ========================================
    ========================================
    Fri, 09 Jan 2026 20:00:33 -0500
    <de72mkpd27ubtu25fc5lq2cbcp0hbmg93n@4ax.com>
    Watchtower Heretic James <James> wrote:
    ========================================
    The Kingdom of Almighty God.

    Are we really in the last days? If so, you MUST see a group of people
    with one overwhelming theme; God's Kingdom. And it must be preached
    throughout the whole globe. ONLY THEN, WILL THE END COME. Mt 24:14,
    The False "Kingdom" Gospel Of Zealous Legalistic Hypocrites

    rCLBut woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the
    kingdom of heaven in peoplerCOs faces. For you neither enter yourselves
    nor allow those who would enter to go in. Woe to you, scribes and
    Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel across sea and land to make a
    single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as
    much a child of hell as yourselves.rCY (Matthew 23:13rCo15, ESV)
    Wow, you got one heck of a day to come for you. Notice again:

    "21. "Not everyone who says to Me, `Lord, Lord,' shall enter the
    kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
    22. "Many will say to Me in that day, `Lord, Lord, have we not
    prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many
    wonders in Your name?'
    23. "And then I will declare to them, `I never knew you; depart from
    Me, you who practice lawlessness!'"

    It's almost made as if for you. You frequently preach about Jesus'
    sacrifice. And you rarely take up other doctrines from the Bible. Thus
    it fits you to a tee. (I hope it won't remain so though.


    Matthew 7 does not condemn preaching ChristrCOs sacrifice. It condemns trusting works, power displays, and religious activity instead of the
    will of the Father as revealed in the gospel.

    Jesus defines the will of the Father plainly elsewhere. rCLThis is the
    will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in
    him should have eternal liferCY (John 6:40, ESV). Again, rCLThis is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sentrCY (John 6:29, ESV).
    Jesus does not point to law-keeping, kingdom activism, or global
    programs as the basis of entrance into the kingdom. He points to faith
    in Himself.

    The people rejected in Matthew 7 appeal to what they did. They
    prophesied. They cast out demons. They performed mighty works. Jesus
    never denies those claims. He rejects them because they trusted their
    works and not Him. He says, rCLI never knew yourCY (Matthew 7:23, ESV). The issue is relationship grounded in faith, not the absence of religious
    effort.

    The apostles explain this passage by the gospel they preached. rCLBy works
    of the law no human being will be justified in his sightrCY (Romans 3:20, ESV). rCLA person is not justified by works of the law but through faith
    in Jesus ChristrCY (Galatians 2:16, ESV). rCLBy grace you have been saved through faithrCa not a result of works, so that no one may boastrCY
    (Ephesians 2:8rCo9, ESV). That directly addresses the error of those in Matthew 7 who boast in what they did.

    Preaching ChristrCOs death and resurrection does not ignore doctrine. It proclaims the center of all doctrine. rCLI delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sinsrCa that he
    was buriedrCa that he was raised on the third dayrCY (1 Corinthians 15:3rCo4, ESV). Paul warned that anything added to this as a requirement for
    acceptance with God is a false gospel (Galatians 1:6rCo9, ESV).

    Matthew 23 already exposes the flaw in boasting about zeal, reach, and recruitment. Religious intensity does not equal truth. Global activity
    does not equal GodrCOs approval. Jesus said such teachers shut the kingdom
    in peoplerCOs faces while claiming to represent it (Matthew 23:13rCo15, ESV).

    The kingdom does not come through lawlessness dressed up as works, nor
    through law-keeping offered as righteousness. It comes through the King
    who gave Himself for sinners. Those who believe already possess eternal
    life now (John 5:24, ESV), and they obey afterward as those who are
    known by Him, not to be known by Him.

    Matthew 7 warns against trusting works. The gospel calls sinners to
    trust Christ alone. That passage does not condemn the message of the
    cross. It condemns everything that competes with it.
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sun Jan 11 13:56:35 2026
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    <3sa7mktccbrv2ng191hnslij5ul8amgjlg@4ax.com>
    Watchtower Heretic James <James> wrote: ========================================
    By confusing the stages of GodrCOs Kingdom program, rCLJehovahrCOs WitnessesrCY
    eliminate the saving gospel of ChristrCOs death and resurrection and
    replace it with a legalistic message that cannot reconcile sinners to
    God or prepare them for the Kingdom to come. While boasting about
    proclaiming God's kingdom, they actually shut the door of the kingdom in
    men's faces. Far from pointing to them as God's people doing the will of
    God, their religious zeal bears the fruit of making men twice the
    children of eternal conscious torment as they are.

    -- King James
    Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the
    dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the
    memory of them is forgotten.

    - King James
    Psalms 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in
    that very day his thoughts perish.

    - King James
    John 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them,
    Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of
    sleep.

    Ignore the Bible , and God will ignore you.

    Notice how he

    rCo IGNORED and didn't even address anything the Bible says about
    the subjects above.

    rCo ACCUSED me of doing what he just did "Ignore the Bible".

    You are not answering the point that was made.

    That shift is a classic deflection. When the gospel is exposed as
    missing, you redirect the discussion to a secondary controversy that
    feels biblical but avoids the main charge. Ecclesiastes, Psalms, and rCLsleeprCY language allow you to argue semantics about death without answering whether your message saves anyone.

    You were not challenged on the state of the dead. You were challenged on
    the message being proclaimed. The issue raised was whether replacing the gospel of ChristrCOs death and resurrection with a law-driven rCLkingdomrCY program reconciles sinners to God or shuts the door of the kingdom
    (Matthew 23:13rCo15; Galatians 1:6rCo9; 1 Corinthians 15:1rCo4, ESV).

    You did not address that. You did not answer whether ChristrCOs death and resurrection save sinners, whether works can reconcile a sinner to God,
    or whether the apostles defined the gospel as future kingdom obedience.

    Instead, you changed the subject.

    Even if your claims about death were correct, they would not answer the charge. The New Testament does not define the gospel by Ecclesiastes,
    Psalms, or metaphors of sleep. It defines the gospel by Christ crucified
    and risen (1 Corinthians 15:3rCo4, ESV). Paul said that message is the
    power of God for salvation (Romans 1:16, ESV), and he warned that adding anything to it produces a different gospel (Galatians 1:6rCo9, ESV).

    The scribes and Pharisees had an aggressive outreach ministry to the
    world, crossing land and sea to make one proselyte. Yet the content of
    their message was a LEGALISTIC LIE AND FALSE GOSPEL which CONTRADICTS
    God's gospel of salvation through faith in Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4; Galatians; Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 4, etc.). The result of their efforts
    was not that people were being saved and introduced into God's kingdom,
    but that they were SHUTTING THE DOOR of God's kingdom in the faces of
    their proselytes, and making them TWOFOLD the children of hell as they themselves were!

    He routinely points to the fact that "Jehovah's Witnesses" are
    involved in global outreach, as if a) no one else on earth were
    doing that (LIES), and as if b) "Jehovah's Witnesses" efforts
    to cross land and sea to make one proselyte therefore
    automatically confirm THEM as God's people doing God's
    thing. That's a LIE. If your gospel contradicts the one Christ
    sent the apostles to proclaim, may you be (as Paul said)
    ETERNALLY CONDEMNED!You CLEARLY promote a legalistic and FALSE gospel,
    which CONTRADICTS the way of salvation revealed by the apostles in the
    gospel and epistles.
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sun Jan 11 14:27:00 2026
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    Sun, 11 Jan 2026 11:29:05 -0500
    <3sa7mktccbrv2ng191hnslij5ul8amgjlg@4ax.com>
    Watchtower Heretic James <James> wrote: ========================================

    James points to rCLJehovahrCOs WitnessesrCY aggressive outreach ministry as >> evidence they are GodrCOs people doing GodrCOs work on earth, proclaiming
    the gospel of the kingdom. Christ, however, directly dismantles the
    assumption that zeal, reach, or global effort validates a message or its
    messengers. The scribes and Pharisees displayed extraordinary religious
    dedication. They crossed land and sea to gain converts. Yet Christ
    declared that their message shut the kingdom of heaven, barred entry for
    themselves, and made those who followed them twice as much a child of
    hell as they were. Their problem was not a lack of activity, but a
    corrupt gospel. They confused external obedience with inward
    righteousness and replaced faith with law. That same danger confronts
    any movement that elevates organizational zeal, survival, and reform
    above reconciliation with God through ChristrCOs atoning death and
    resurrection. The issue is not whether a group proclaims a rCLkingdom,rCY
    but whether it proclaims the only gospel that grants entrance into it.


    Regardless,


    rCoA fitting summary of your attitude towards anything you don't want to
    hear the Bible teaching. You're regardless for it.

    Jesus CONDEMNED the aggressive outreach ministry of the scribes and
    Pharisees, as that which SHUT THE DOOR of God's Kingdom in the faces of
    those who became their proselytes. He said they efforts not only FAILED
    to lead people into God's kingdom but SHUT THE DOORS IN THEIR FACES, and
    made them TWO-FOLD the CHILDREN OF HELL as THEY WERE!

    you have to really see a world-wide preaching of the
    Kingdom, if it is the last days. From your point of view, we preach a
    false kingdom message. But I would like to know then, WHO IS
    PROCLAIMING THE Mt 24:14 message?

    I have asked you several times last time, who those people are? I
    still haven't got an answer.


    L-I-A-R. You consistently DENY and PRETEND you never heard, and CLAIM
    YOU FORGOT what you are REPEATEDLY DOCUMENTED as being shown.

    ========================================
    Sat, 10 Jan 2026 14:28:44 -0600 <cc51ee66-355a-4046-a27b-5319c0032be9@christrose.news>
    Watchtower Heretic James <Christ Rose <usenet@christrose.news>> wrote: ========================================
    If it isn't JW's who are fulfilling Mt 24:14


    LIE #1 "JW's" are fulfilling Matthew 24:14. They are not. They promote religious, legalistic zeal just like the scribes and Pharisees. Their aggressive, global outreach is calculated by Satan to deny the need for Christ's death and resurrection as the atonement for men's sins, so as
    to make men the TWOFOLD children of the lake of fire as they are. They promote a FALSE, DAMNED gospel which denies Christ (Galatians 1:8-9).


    [You REMAIN "REGARDLESS" (your own term) of that fact. You don't get to
    waltz in and PRETEND that the mere fact some group of people takes a
    message out by land and sea AUTOMATICALLY DEMONSTRATES they are God's
    chosen people doing God's will. "Jehovah's Witnesses" do NOT proclaim
    the gospel of faith in Christ's death and resurrection as the way to
    enter God's Kingdom. They DENY AND IGNORE that gospel and try to TWIST
    less clear revelation into supporting a FALSE, LEGALISTIC GOSPEL which
    Paul said leads men to eternal damnation (Galatians 1:8-9).]


    LIE #2 "No one else" is fulfilling Matthew 24:14. I and EVERY church I
    have EVER ATTENDED has done it, not only locally, but by supporting international missionaries who proclaim the gospel.


    There's your answer. "I and EVERY church I have EVER ATTENDED has done
    it, not only locally, but by supporting international missionaries who proclaim the gospel". You REMAIN not "innocently ignorant" of, or
    "sincerely mistaken about" what other's claim, but a LIAR who DENIES
    people have answered your question, when they have answered it
    (documented) ad nauseam. You have to PRETEND people didn't answer to
    convey the FALSE IMPRESSION (deliberate effort to deceive) that they did
    not!
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sun Jan 11 14:36:44 2026
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    Sun, 11 Jan 2026 11:29:05 -0500
    <3sa7mktccbrv2ng191hnslij5ul8amgjlg@4ax.com>
    Watchtower Heretic James <James> wrote: ========================================

    Actually, that was Jesus main theme in
    his talks.

    -- New King James
    Luke 4:43 but He said to them, "I must preach the kingdom of God to
    the other cities also, because for this purpose I have been sent.''

    So the Kingdom Message was of PRIME importance to Jesus. Shouldn't it
    be for you also?


    Notice how the liar uses the exact words Paul spoke about the true,
    saving gospel which he and the apostles proclaimed, to promote
    allegiance to his FALSE, legalistic, scribe and Pharisee gospel:

    rCLNow I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you,
    which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being
    saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to yourCounless you
    believed in vain. For I delivered to you AS OF FIRST IMPORTANCE what I
    also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures,rCY (1 Corinthians 15:1rCo4, ESV)

    Secondly, notice how the liar PRETENDS that someone doesn't address a
    subject, RIGHT BEFORE HE CITES THEM ADDRESSING IT...


    THE SAVING GOSPEL PROCLAIMED IN THIS ERA

    Entrance into GodrCOs Kingdom during this era occurs through regeneration, >> not reform. Jesus stated the requirement plainly: rCLUnless one is born
    again he cannot see the kingdom of GodrCY (John 3:3, ESV). In context,
    Jesus explains that this new birth occurs through faith in GodrCOs saving
    provision: rCLwhoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal
    liferCY (John 3:16, ESV).

    John 3 shows not only that one must be born again to enter God's
    kingdom, but that he is born again by believing in Christ for salvation! "Jehovah's Witnesses" do NOT proclaim salvation by faith in Christ, but
    by legalistic efforts, just as the scribes and Pharisees whom Jesus
    CONDEMNED as "children of hell". God won't be sending HIS children to
    hell. He'll be sending the "children of hell" who promote a FALSE,
    LEGALISTIC gospel to the lake of fire for trying to shut the door of
    God's kingdom in the faces of anyone who becomes their ("Jehovah's
    Witnesses") proselytes!
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sun Jan 11 14:47:30 2026
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    Sun, 11 Jan 2026 11:29:05 -0500
    <3sa7mktccbrv2ng191hnslij5ul8amgjlg@4ax.com>
    Watchtower Heretic James <James> wrote: ========================================
    The apostles defined the gospel with precision and finality: rCLthat
    Christ died for our sinsrCa that he was buried, that he was raised on the
    third dayrCY (1 Corinthians 15:3rCo4, ESV). This gospel addresses manrCOs
    present and fundamental problemrCoguilt before God. It proclaims
    substitutionary atonement accomplished by ChristrCOs death and
    resurrection, not atonement achieved through personal suffering,
    obedience, or endurance.

    No, we can't save ourselves. We all need Jesus' ransom sacrifice for
    that, as I have said a zillion times. But apparently you are not
    listening.


    Whatever you mean by "need Jesus' ransom", it clearly CONTRADICTS what
    the true and saving gospel proclaims, since in the very next breath, you
    claim salvation can be "earned" through personal effort.


    Paul explains the present purpose of God without ambiguity: rCLBut now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the lawrCa through
    faith in Jesus Christ for all who believerCY (Romans 3:21rCo22, ESV). This righteousness is received, not earned.

    Negatrons. It can be earned:

    -- New King James
    Matthew 24:13 "But he who endures to the end shall be saved.

    If it was automatically given to him, there would be no need to
    'endure to the end'.


    Notice how the FALSE GOSPEL LIAR contradicts the true, saving gospel:

    rCLI do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through
    the law, then Christ died for no purpose.rCY (Galatians 2:21, ESV)

    rCLFor by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your
    own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one
    may boast.rCY (Ephesians 2:8rCo9, ESV)

    rCLhe saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal
    of the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ
    our Savior, so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.rCY (Titus 3:5rCo7, ESV)

    rCLNow I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you,
    which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being
    saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to yourCounless you
    believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I
    also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures,rCY (1 Corinthians 15:1rCo4, ESV)

    rCLBut even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have
    said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.rCY (Galatians
    1:8rCo9, ESV)

    You are NOT preaching that gospel which Paul and the apostles
    proclaimed. Therefore you will be accursed. The epistles, NOT your
    free-lance interpretation and twisting of the gospels, is the divinely inspired commentary on how the gospels should be interpreted and applied
    to the church.
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

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