On 1/7/26 9:08 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote in news:10jl05p$eors$1@dont-email.me:
"Kaya stressed that the pottery does not
prove the existence of NoahrCOs Ark."
"And it's totally unusual for a mentally deranged atheist
to say things like that," the retard insisted.
I actually started a flame war in this group just saying
that testimony is evidence, that it's admissible in every
court of law... MORE THAN ONCE! I started multiple flame
wars saying that, and the so called "Atheists"
argued <sic> against it.
So it's pretty common for satanic atheists to deny reality
including well established facts.
On 1/7/26 9:08 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote in news:10jl05p$eors$1@dont-email.me:
"Kaya stressed that the pottery does not
prove the existence of NoahAs Ark."
"And it's totally unusual for a mentally deranged atheist
to say things like that," the retard insisted.
I actually started a flame war in this group just saying
that testimony is evidence, that it's admissible in every
court of law... MORE THAN ONCE!
I started multiple flame
wars saying that, and the so called "Atheists"
argued <sic> against it.
So it's pretty common for satanic atheists to deny reality--
including well established facts.
Like you're doing now.
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark-debate/
"Eew! Eew! Science is wrong! Noah's Ark isn't real!"
On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 13:40:47 +0000, jojo <f00@0f0.00f> in
alt.atheism with message-id <2c7568b2-d4c7-4673-dc4b-142ee2eabba2@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>
wrote:
JTEM wrote:
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark-debate/ >>>
"Eew! Eew! Science is wrong! Noah's Ark isn't real!"
the problem with noah's ark is obviously if you have a zoo on a
boat, you will get diarehea on day 1.
did they find a lot of poo in the remains?
Not to mention food and water. Plus transportation of
course - how did they all manage to get to the same place
and then get back home?
Attila wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 13:40:47 +0000, jojo <f00@0f0.00f> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<2c7568b2-d4c7-4673-dc4b-142ee2eabba2@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>
wrote:
JTEM wrote:
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark-debate/ >>>>
"Eew! Eew! Science is wrong! Noah's Ark isn't real!"
the problem with noah's ark is obviously if you have a zoo on a
boat, you will get diarehea on day 1.
did they find a lot of poo in the remains?
Not to mention food and water. Plus transportation of
course - how did they all manage to get to the same place
and then get back home?
they had amazon organize everything.
On 1/7/2026 12:57 AM, JTEM wrote:
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark-
debate/
"Eew! Eew! Science is wrong! Noah's Ark isn't real!"
Yep, it's a myth that got a remake from Sumerian lore.
Not to mention food and water. Plus transportation of
course - how did they all manage to get to the same place
and then get back home?
On 1/7/26 5:07 PM, Attila wrote:
Not to mention food and water.-a Plus transportation of
course - how did they all manage to get to the same place
and then get back home?
Not to throw a damper on anything but, you're "Argument"
here is that it couldn't have happened because this
miracle would have taken a miracle.
Not effective. Unless someone already agreed with you
BEFORE you said anything.
-a-a-a-a ...."preaching to the choir," it's called.
But don't worry, nobody here ever notices. They're too
busy being geniuses to deal with facts.
would you say that a miracle is something that defiescausality or that
it must be confined within the realm of causality?
The Noah Ark story has nothing to do with
"well established facts".
But where did all of that water go?
On 1/8/26 12:40 PM, jojo wrote:
would you say that a miracle is something that defies-acausality or that
it must be confined within the realm of causality?
No.
A miracle should be anything that's conventionally
impossible, given the specific circumstances.
Entire herds of elephants exist. They are not a miracle
per se. But if an entire herd appeared in a crowded
suburban neighborhood and a thousand ring doorbells,
security cams & traffic cams could find not a trace of
them getting there, nor any type of vehicle that might
carry them, that would be a "Miracle." Would it not?
On 1/7/26 9:34 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
The Noah Ark story has nothing to do with
"well established facts".
The rock solid science that confirms it certainly does.
JTEM wrote:
On 1/8/26 12:40 PM, jojo wrote:
would you say that a miracle is something that defies-a-acausality or that
it must be confined within the realm of causality?
No.
A miracle should be anything that's conventionally
impossible, given the specific circumstances.
Entire herds of elephants exist. They are not a miracle
per se. But if an entire herd appeared in a crowded
suburban neighborhood and a thousand ring doorbells,
security cams & traffic cams could find not a trace of
them getting there, nor any type of vehicle that might
carry them, that would be a "Miracle." Would it not?
depends right?
Koala bears:
1) Are native only to Australia. How did
they get from there to the Middle East to
board the boat?
On 1/8/26 1:02 PM, jojo wrote:
JTEM wrote:
On 1/8/26 12:40 PM, jojo wrote:
would you say that a miracle is something that defies-a-acausality or that
it must be confined within the realm of causality?
No.
A miracle should be anything that's conventionally
impossible, given the specific circumstances.
Entire herds of elephants exist. They are not a miracle
per se. But if an entire herd appeared in a crowded
suburban neighborhood and a thousand ring doorbells,
security cams & traffic cams could find not a trace of
them getting there, nor any type of vehicle that might
carry them, that would be a "Miracle." Would it not?
depends right?
No. Under the specific circumstances laid out, it would be
a miracle.
On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 13:41:03 -0500, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
in alt.atheism with message-id
<10jm9bv$spmi$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 1/7/26 9:08 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote in news:10jl05p$eors$1@dont-email.me:
"Kaya stressed that the pottery does not
prove the existence of NoahAs Ark."
"And it's totally unusual for a mentally deranged atheist
to say things like that," the retard insisted.
I actually started a flame war in this group just saying
that testimony is evidence, that it's admissible in every
court of law... MORE THAN ONCE!
But the quality of that evidence is a judgmental factor. I
can testify I have seen flying red dragons speaking English
flying in my garage as random intervals. Should be
believed?
On 1/8/26 1:02 PM, jojo wrote:
JTEM wrote:
On 1/8/26 12:40 PM, jojo wrote:
would you say that a miracle is something that defiesaacausality or that
it must be confined within the realm of causality?
No.
A miracle should be anything that's conventionally
impossible, given the specific circumstances.
Entire herds of elephants exist. They are not a miracle
per se. But if an entire herd appeared in a crowded
suburban neighborhood and a thousand ring doorbells,
security cams & traffic cams could find not a trace of
them getting there, nor any type of vehicle that might
carry them, that would be a "Miracle." Would it not?
depends right?
No. Under the specific circumstances laid out, it would be
a miracle.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
is a miracle self generating or a source or catalyst is required?
On 1/8/26 4:11 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Yeah. Reaching for the "BECAUSE! ALIENS!" is no different than
"BECAUSE! GOD!" They are one and the same. You just believe in
a different deity.
On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 16:17:11 -0500, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/8/26 4:11 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Yeah. Reaching for the "BECAUSE! ALIENS!" is no different than
"BECAUSE! GOD!" They are one and the same. You just believe in
a different deity.
So technology is supernatural
On 1/8/26 4:59 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 16:17:11 -0500, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/8/26 4:11 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Yeah. Reaching for the "BECAUSE! ALIENS!" is no different than
"BECAUSE! GOD!" They are one and the same. You just believe in
a different deity.
So technology is supernatural
I'm sorry, I keep forgetting that you're insane and don't know
these things but no such technology exists. But it's as real to
you as is Jesus to a right wing Baptist fundy.
On 1/7/26 5:08 PM, Attila wrote:
But where did all of that water go?
"The miracle couldn't happen because it would require
a miracle!"
Yeah, go back to telling yourself that the Trojan War
really happened...
On 1/7/26 5:07 PM, Attila wrote:
Not to mention food and water. Plus transportation of
course - how did they all manage to get to the same place
and then get back home?
Not to throw a damper on anything but, you're "Argument"
here is that it couldn't have happened because this
miracle would have taken a miracle.
Not effective. Unless someone already agreed with you--
BEFORE you said anything.
...."preaching to the choir," it's called.
But don't worry, nobody here ever notices. They're too
busy being geniuses to deal with facts.
On 1/8/26 12:40 PM, jojo wrote:
would you say that a miracle is something that defiescausality or that
it must be confined within the realm of causality?
No.
A miracle should be anything that's conventionally
impossible, given the specific circumstances.
Entire herds of elephants exist. They are not a miracle
per se. But if an entire herd appeared in a crowded
suburban neighborhood and a thousand ring doorbells,
security cams & traffic cams could find not a trace of
them getting there, nor any type of vehicle that might
carry them, that would be a "Miracle." Would it not?
Attila wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 13:41:03 -0500, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
in alt.atheism with message-id
<10jm9bv$spmi$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 1/7/26 9:08 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote in news:10jl05p$eors$1@dont-email.me:
"Kaya stressed that the pottery does not
prove the existence of NoahAs Ark."
"And it's totally unusual for a mentally deranged atheist
to say things like that," the retard insisted.
I actually started a flame war in this group just saying
that testimony is evidence, that it's admissible in every
court of law... MORE THAN ONCE!
But the quality of that evidence is a judgmental factor. I
can testify I have seen flying red dragons speaking English
flying in my garage as random intervals. Should be
believed?
I believe you. I've seen them myself.
On 1/8/26 1:44 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Koala bears:
1) Are native only to Australia. How did
they get from there to the Middle East to
board the boat?
So, again, you're "Arguing" that the miracle would have
required a miracle.
Not bright, that.
On 1/8/26 3:13 PM, jojo wrote:
is a miracle self generating or a source or catalyst is required?
Miracles can't be examined as a natural phenomenon might be.
On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 20:44:06 GMT, "Alex tan Malo"
<alex@tm.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <qGU7R.1654089$ACS3.166690@fx17.iad> wrote:
Attila wrote:
news:10jl05p$eors$1@dont-email.me: >> >On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 13:41:03 -0500, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
in alt.atheism with message-id
<10jm9bv$spmi$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 1/7/26 9:08 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote in
"Kaya stressed that the pottery does not
prove the existence of NoahAs Ark."
"And it's totally unusual for a mentally deranged atheist
to say things like that," the retard insisted.
I actually started a flame war in this group just saying
that testimony is evidence, that it's admissible in every
court of law... MORE THAN ONCE!
But the quality of that evidence is a judgmental factor. I
can testify I have seen flying red dragons speaking English
flying in my garage as random intervals. Should be
believed?
I believe you. I've seen them myself.
Did your's have their names written on their stomachs in
white ink?
yea but if they manifest as a physical occurence in spacetime there must
be something converting the magic to unmagic.
On 1/7/26 8:52 AM, Idlehands wrote:
On 2026-01-06 11:57 p.m., JTEM wrote:
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark-
debate/
"Eew! Eew! Science is wrong! Noah's Ark isn't real!"
Nice selective reading, I quote:
"Road work exposes evidence of early human activity
Yeah that's proof. If Noah's Ark was historical fact -- which it is,
as this proves -- there would be evidence of human activity and
there is.
It's called "Science."
Scientific Hypothesis:-a "Noah's Ark was real. The people left behind pottery."
Science:-a "Oh look! Look!-a Here's the pottery our hypothesis predicted!"
You hate science.
"Here is pottery indicating human activity."
Scientist
Attila wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 20:44:06 GMT, "Alex tan Malo"
<alex@tm.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<qGU7R.1654089$ACS3.166690@fx17.iad> wrote:
Attila wrote:news:10jl05p$eors$1@dont-email.me: >> >
On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 13:41:03 -0500, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
in alt.atheism with message-id
<10jm9bv$spmi$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 1/7/26 9:08 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote in
"Kaya stressed that the pottery does not
prove the existence of NoahAs Ark."
"And it's totally unusual for a mentally deranged atheist
to say things like that," the retard insisted.
I actually started a flame war in this group just saying
that testimony is evidence, that it's admissible in every
court of law... MORE THAN ONCE!
But the quality of that evidence is a judgmental factor. I
can testify I have seen flying red dragons speaking English
flying in my garage as random intervals. Should be
believed?
I believe you. I've seen them myself.
Did your's have their names written on their stomachs in
white ink?
Yes. They must have been the same ones.
On 1/9/26 10:17 AM, jojo wrote:
yea but if they manifest as a physical occurence in spacetime
there must be something converting the magic to unmagic.
Really?-a Because our universe -- us and everything in existence --
is literally impossible.
The way-a /Some/-a people try to get around this is by defining
something as nothing and then claim THAT'S how something came
from nothing.
-a-a-a-a-a ...usually a "Quantum Field," in the case of the universe.
The fact is that you, me and absolutely everything else simply
magicked into existence, and you insist that nothing did this,
no deity or intelligence...
its not impossible, that would mean zero probability. i dont think we
are magiced.. and my phd thesis is this:
the probabiilty that nothing would exist is infinitesimally smaller than anything at all existing.
On 1/10/26 11:21 AM, jojo wrote:
its not impossible, that would mean zero probability. i dont
think we are magiced.. and my phd thesis is this:
the probabiilty that nothing would exist is infinitesimally
smaller than anything at all existing.
That's a statement, and not one that is even logical.
To us, it is nothing short of impossible for *Something* to
appear out
of nothing, and yet we claim exactly that.
JTEM wrote:
On 1/10/26 11:21 AM, jojo wrote:
its not impossible, that would mean zero probability. i dont think we
are magiced.. and my phd thesis is this:
the probabiilty that nothing would exist is infinitesimally smaller
than anything at all existing.
That's a statement, and not one that is even logical.
To us, it is nothing short of impossible for *Something* to appear out
of nothing, and yet we claim exactly that.
its not impossible to me.
On 1/7/26 8:52 AM, Idlehands wrote:
On 2026-01-06 11:57 p.m., JTEM wrote:
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark-
debate/
"Eew! Eew! Science is wrong! Noah's Ark isn't real!"
Nice selective reading, I quote:
"Road work exposes evidence of early human activity
Yeah that's proof. If Noah's Ark was historical fact -- which it is,
as this proves -- there would be evidence of human activity and
there is.
It's called "Science."
Scientific Hypothesis:-a "Noah's Ark was real. The people left behind pottery."
Science:-a "Oh look! Look!-a Here's the pottery our hypothesis predicted!"
You hate science.
On 2026-01-07 11:37 a.m., JTEM wrote:
Yeah that's proof. If Noah's Ark was historical fact -- which it is,
as this proves -- there would be evidence of human activity and
there is.
It's called "Science."
Scientific Hypothesis:-a "Noah's Ark was real. The people left behind
pottery."
Science:-a "Oh look! Look!-a Here's the pottery our hypothesis predicted!" >>
You hate science.
Convenient
THIS PROVES THE ARK IS REAL
No need to add anything else.
On 2026-01-06 11:57 p.m., JTEM wrote:
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark-
debate/
THIS PROVES THE ARK IS REAL
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark-debate/
"Eew! Eew! Science is wrong! Noah's Ark isn't real!"
On 1/8/26 1:05 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 1/7/2026 12:57 AM, JTEM wrote:
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark-
debate/
"Eew! Eew! Science is wrong! Noah's Ark isn't real!"
Yep, it's a myth that got a remake from Sumerian lore.
I was under the impression that you schitzophrenics "Hear"
things, not look at URLs and imagine seeing any mention
of "Sumerian lore."
On 1/10/26 12:59 PM, jojo wrote:
JTEM wrote:
On 1/10/26 11:21 AM, jojo wrote:
its not impossible, that would mean zero probability. i dont
think we are magiced.. and my phd thesis is this:
the probabiilty that nothing would exist is infinitesimally
smaller than anything at all existing.
That's a statement, and not one that is even logical.
To us, it is nothing short of impossible for *Something* to
appear out
of nothing, and yet we claim exactly that.
its not impossible to me.
"Through God all things are possible."
-aIdlehands wrote:
On 2026-01-06 11:57 p.m., JTEM wrote:
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark- >>>>> debate/
THIS PROVES THE ARK IS REAL
Yes. Yes it does.
On 1/8/2026 11:19 AM, JTEM wrote:
On 1/8/26 1:05 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 1/7/2026 12:57 AM, JTEM wrote:
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark-
debate/
"Eew! Eew! Science is wrong! Noah's Ark isn't real!"
Yep, it's a myth that got a remake from Sumerian lore.
I was under the impression that you schitzophrenics "Hear"
things, not look at URLs and imagine seeing any mention
of "Sumerian lore."
That's where the Flood story in the Bible came from!
On 1/11/26 11:30 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 1/8/2026 11:19 AM, JTEM wrote:
On 1/8/26 1:05 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 1/7/2026 12:57 AM, JTEM wrote:
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark- >>>>> debate/
"Eew! Eew! Science is wrong! Noah's Ark isn't real!"
Yep, it's a myth that got a remake from Sumerian lore.
I was under the impression that you schitzophrenics "Hear"
things, not look at URLs and imagine seeing any mention
of "Sumerian lore."
That's where the Flood story in the Bible came from!
So you don't know the difference between science and the bible,
and that's why when you see a thread on scientific proof you
immediately confuse it for the bible.
On 1/8/26 1:05 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 1/7/2026 12:57 AM, JTEM wrote:
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark-
debate/
"Eew! Eew! Science is wrong! Noah's Ark isn't real!"
Yep, it's a myth that got a remake from Sumerian lore.
I was under the impression that you schitzophrenics "Hear"
things, not look at URLs and imagine seeing any mention
of "Sumerian lore."
JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote in news:10k185n$8cq6$1@dont-email.me:
On 1/11/26 11:30 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 1/8/2026 11:19 AM, JTEM wrote:
On 1/8/26 1:05 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 1/7/2026 12:57 AM, JTEM wrote:
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark- >>>>>> debate/
"Eew! Eew! Science is wrong! Noah's Ark isn't real!"
Yep, it's a myth that got a remake from Sumerian lore.
I was under the impression that you schitzophrenics "Hear"
things, not look at URLs and imagine seeing any mention
of "Sumerian lore."
That's where the Flood story in the Bible came from!
So you don't know the difference between science and the bible,
and that's why when you see a thread on scientific proof you
immediately confuse it for the bible.
There is no scientific proof of the Flood story.
It is mythology, no different from Pandora's box
and Paul Bunyon.
If you had any proof you would post it, but there
isn't so you don't.
At Thu, 8 Jan 2026 12:19:01 -0500, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/8/26 1:05 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 1/7/2026 12:57 AM, JTEM wrote:
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark-
debate/
"Eew! Eew! Science is wrong! Noah's Ark isn't real!"
Yep, it's a myth that got a remake from Sumerian lore.
I was under the impression that you schitzophrenics "Hear"
things, not look at URLs and imagine seeing any mention
of "Sumerian lore."
The _Epic of Gilgamesh_ is common knowledge.
Creon wrote:
At Thu, 8 Jan 2026 12:19:01 -0500, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/8/26 1:05 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 1/7/2026 12:57 AM, JTEM wrote:
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark-
debate/
"Eew! Eew! Science is wrong! Noah's Ark isn't real!"
Yep, it's a myth that got a remake from Sumerian lore.
I was under the impression that you schitzophrenics "Hear"
things, not look at URLs and imagine seeing any mention
of "Sumerian lore."
The _Epic of Gilgamesh_ is common knowledge.
i know about it, but i dont know what its about.. or forgot. 3000
years have made me forget.
At Mon, 12 Jan 2026 15:28:44 +0000, jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:
Creon wrote:
At Thu, 8 Jan 2026 12:19:01 -0500, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/8/26 1:05 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 1/7/2026 12:57 AM, JTEM wrote:
https://greekreporter.com/2026/01/07/pottery-mount-ararat-noah-ark- >>>>>> debate/
"Eew! Eew! Science is wrong! Noah's Ark isn't real!"
Yep, it's a myth that got a remake from Sumerian lore.
I was under the impression that you schitzophrenics "Hear"
things, not look at URLs and imagine seeing any mention
of "Sumerian lore."
The _Epic of Gilgamesh_ is common knowledge.
i know about it, but i dont know what its about.. or forgot. 3000
years have made me forget.
If only there were an online encyclopedia of some sort...
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