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mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

Will-Dockery wrote:

HarryLime wrote:

Will-Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

"Connection" was a much longer poem

I only quoted the first three lines.

It works great like this, though.

Do you want an editor credit?

Here's a better edit for you (NO credit, thank you):

Neon signs on empty streets.
Illumination --
Poetry within a dark night sky.

It's really a different poem now but not bad.

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Will Dockery wrote:
mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

Will-Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:
Will-Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

"Connection" was a much longer poem

I only quoted the first three lines.

It works great like this, though.

Do you want an editor credit?

Here's a better edit for you (NO credit, thank you):

Neon signs on empty streets.
Illumination --
Poetry within a dark night sky.

It's really a different poem now but not bad.

I think what you were trying to say is that spiritual illumination elevates your soul like the poetry inherent in a dark night.

Feel free to tell my your intended meaning if I'm mistaken.

I think you misused "poetics" to mean the basic mechanics of poetry -- in that the underlying essence of poetry (the elements that make up a poem) are a part of the darkness of night.

And since Poetics (the study of poetry) examines these elements, you mistakenly substituted the academic school for the principles that it purports to teach.

The poetry of the night refers to the basic underlying elements that inspire, create, or constitute poetry.

Poetics *only* refers to the academic discussion of trochees, anapests and allusions.


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mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

Will Dockery wrote:

mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

Will Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

"Connection" was a much longer poem

I only quoted the first three lines.

It works great like this, though.

Do you want an editor credit?

Here's a better edit for you (NO credit, thank you):

Neon signs on empty streets.
Illumination --
Poetry within a dark night sky.

It's really a different poem now but not bad.

I think what you were trying to say is that spiritual illumination elevates your soul like the poetry inherent in a dark night.

Feel free to tell my your intended meaning if I'm mistaken.

Basically, that seems right.
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HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:
mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

Will-Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:
Will-Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

"Connection" was a much longer poem

I only quoted the first three lines.

It works great like this, though.

Do you want an editor credit?

Here's a better edit for you (NO credit, thank you):

Neon signs on empty streets.
Illumination --
Poetry within a dark night sky.

It's really a different poem now but not bad.

The poetry of the night refers to the basic underlying elements that inspire, create, or constitute poetry.

I have no argument with that.


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HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

It makes no sense

Again:

"A poem should not mean, but be."
-Archibald MacLeish
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mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

Will Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

"Connection" was a much longer poem, Donkey.

I only quoted the first three lines.

Again, nice edit, thanks.
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Will Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

It makes no sense

Again:

"A poem should not mean, but be."
-Archibald MacLeish

Again, that is not an excuse for using a word incorretly.

When you say that "Illumination is like the study of poetry to a dark night sky," you sound like the illiterate moron that you so obviously are.

Words matter... even in abstract verse.

Dumbass.


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HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

It makes no sense

Again:

"A poem should not mean, but be."
-Archibald MacLeish

When you say that "Illumination is like the study of poetry to a dark night sky,"

The poem describes a young poet thinking about his craft in a dark deserted area, the thoughts brighten his mood, "illuminate" him.


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Will-Dockery wrote:

HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

It makes no sense

Again:

"A poem should not mean, but be."
-Archibald MacLeish

When you say that "Illumination is like the study of poetry to a dark night sky,"

The poem describes a young poet thinking about his craft in a dark deserted area, the thoughts brighten his mood, "illuminate" him.

Yes. But the correct word is still "poetry," and *not* "poetics."


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HarryLime wrote:

Will-Dockery wrote:

HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

It makes no sense

Again:

"A poem should not mean, but be."
-Archibald MacLeish

When you say that "Illumination is like the study of poetry to a dark night sky,"

The poem describes a young poet thinking about his craft in a dark deserted area, the thoughts brighten his mood, "illuminate" him.

Yes. But the correct word is still "poetry," and *not* "poetics."

Depends on the circumstances.

HTH and HAND.


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Will-Dockery wrote:

HarryLime wrote:

Will-Dockery wrote:

HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

It makes no sense

Again:

"A poem should not mean, but be."
-Archibald MacLeish

When you say that "Illumination is like the study of poetry to a dark night sky,"

The poem describes a young poet thinking about his craft in a dark deserted area, the thoughts brighten his mood, "illuminate" him.

Yes. But the correct word is still "poetry," and *not* "poetics."

Depends on the circumstances.

HTH and HAND.

It depends on the *context* -- as the meanings of most words do.

Based on the context of the 8 or so examples of Stinky G's misuse of "poetics," the context shows that he was 100% wrong each and every time.


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mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

Will-Dockery wrote:

HarryLime wrote:

Will-Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

"Connection" was a much longer poem

I only quoted the first three lines.

It works great like this, though.

Do you want an editor credit?

Here's a better edit for you (NO credit, thank you):

Neon signs on empty streets.
Illumination --
Poetry within a dark night sky.

That's pretty good, thanks.

This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=701902417#701902417

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HarryLime wrote:

Will-Dockery wrote:

HarryLime wrote:

Will-Dockery wrote:

HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

It makes no sense

Again:

"A poem should not mean, but be."
-Archibald MacLeish

When you say that "Illumination is like the study of poetry to a dark night sky,"

The poem describes a young poet thinking about his craft in a dark deserted area, the thoughts brighten his mood, "illuminate" him.

Yes. But the correct word is still "poetry," and *not* "poetics."

Depends on the circumstances.

HTH and HAND.

It depends on the *context* -- as the meanings of most words do.

Okay, no argument with that.


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mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

Will Dockery wrote:

HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

It makes no sense

Again:

"A poem should not mean, but be."
-Archibald MacLeish

Again, that is not an excuse for using a word incorretly.

If the word is actually used incorrectly, which it wasn't.

HTH and HAND.
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mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

Will Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

"Connection" was a much longer poem

It's better in this edited version.
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mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

Will Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

"Connection" was a much longer poem

The rest of the poem was shelved for later use.
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mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

Will Dockery wrote:

HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

Connection-
look at these empty streets.
Illumination,
poetics to a dark night sky.

-Will Dockery

It makes no sense

Again:

"A poem should not mean, but be."
-Archibald MacLeish

When you say that "Illumination is like the study of poetry to a dark night sky,"

The poem describes a young poet thinking about his craft in a dark deserted area, the thoughts brighten his mood, "illuminate" him.

Yes. But the correct word is still "poetry," and *not* "poetics."

Depends on the circumstances.

HTH and HAND.

It depends on the *context*

Everything depends on context in one way or another.
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