• Re: Will Dockery's "Shattered"

    From mpsilvertone@mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed Feb 25 15:25:37 2026
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    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    Thanks again for the in-depth review, Harry Lime
    I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office later today. >>>




    That would require your having an office to return to.



    Correct, as I do.





    Obviously not.

    12pm, 2/24/2026

    DONKEY: I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office later today.

    3:30pm, 2/25/2026

    <crickets>


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  • From Cujo DeSockpuppet@cujo@petitmorte.net to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed Feb 25 23:10:50 2026
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    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) wrote in news:WY6dnWN71Y4rxgL0nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    Thanks again for the in-depth review, Harry Lime
    I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office later
    today.





    That would require your having an office to return to.



    Correct, as I do.





    Obviously not.

    12pm, 2/24/2026

    DONKEY: I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office
    later today.

    3:30pm, 2/25/2026

    <crickets>

    You expected him to lie.
    He lied.

    What a shocker.
    --
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    you, because your poems don't have a literary basis, because you're functionally illiterate and haven't got a clue as to what a poem is." -
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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu Feb 26 05:04:16 2026
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    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    Thanks again for the in-depth review, Harry Lime
    I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office later today.

    That would require your having an office to return to.

    Exactly, which I do
    --
    Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:
    https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu Feb 26 08:35:25 2026
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    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    Thanks again for the in-depth review, Harry Lime
    I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office later today.

    That would require your having an office to return to.

    I've had a work area aka office most of my life.
    --
    Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:
    https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
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  • From mpsilvertone@mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu Feb 26 09:27:55 2026
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    Will Dockery wrote:
    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    Thanks again for the in-depth review, Harry Lime
    I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office later today. >>
    That would require your having an office to return to.



    I've had a work area aka office most of my life.





    Everyone has a work area, Donkey.

    Here's what Dunce's "trusted friend" has to say:

    "An office is a dedicated, often formal, company-provided location for administrative or professional work, offering structure and shared resources. A work area (or workspace) is the specific, immediate space"such as a desk, home corner, or coworking spot"where an individual performs tasks."

    You have a "work area" in you room.

    But you don't say "when I return to the work area," because the work area is situated inside of your home. Instead, you should say "when I return home."

    Calling your work area "the office" is not only incorrect, but comes across as pretentious. And, when taken with the fact that everyone knows you've been unemployed for the past 25 years, it becomes pretentious in a pathetic sort of way -- much in the same way that The Little Tramp put on airs by adopting the mannerisms of the upper class when everyone can see that he is wearing rags.


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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu Feb 26 15:37:14 2026
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    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    Thanks again for the in-depth review, Harry Lime
    I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office later today. >>
    That would require your having an office to return to.

    I've had a work area aka office most of my life.

    Everyone has a work area

    I can't speak for everyone but that's probably true in one way or another.
    --
    Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:
    https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
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  • From mpsilvertone@mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu Feb 26 12:30:12 2026
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    Will Dockery wrote:
    Rudy Canoza <rc> posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    Thanks again for the in-depth review, Harry Lime
    I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office later today. >>
    That would require your having an office to return to.

    Exactly, which I do

    https://postimg.cc/Jyg1x2h6

    Fancy office building

    GUFFAW!



    I made no claims it was "fancy."





    You've obviously never seen the inside of an office.

    Dumbass.


    View the attachments for this post at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=701939926#701939926




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  • From mummycullen@mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu Feb 26 12:35:31 2026
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    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    Rudy Canoza <rc> posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    Thanks again for the in-depth review, Harry Lime
    I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office later today. >>>
    That would require your having an office to return to.

    Exactly, which I do

    https://postimg.cc/Jyg1x2h6

    Fancy office building

    GUFFAW!



    I made no claims it was "fancy."




    You've obviously never seen the inside of an office.

    Dumbass.





    Is that your photo??


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  • From mpsilvertone@mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu Feb 26 12:46:43 2026
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    MummyChunk wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    Rudy Canoza <rc> posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    Thanks again for the in-depth review, Harry Lime
    I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office later today. >>>>
    That would require your having an office to return to.

    Exactly, which I do

    https://postimg.cc/Jyg1x2h6

    Fancy office building

    GUFFAW!



    I made no claims it was "fancy."




    You've obviously never seen the inside of an office.

    Dumbass.




    Is that your photo??



    Yes... that's me at the office where I work.


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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu Feb 26 19:08:51 2026
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    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    Thanks again for the in-depth review, Harry Lime
    I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office later today. >>
    That would require your having an office to return to.

    Exactly, which I do

    https://postimg.cc/Jyg1x2h6

    Fancy office building

    GUFFAW!

    I made no claims it was "fancy."

    You've obviously never seen the inside of an office.

    It's my work srea.
    --
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    https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
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  • From mummycullen@mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu Feb 26 14:16:22 2026
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    HarryLime wrote:

    MummyChunk wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    Rudy Canoza <rc> posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    Thanks again for the in-depth review, Harry Lime
    I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office later today.

    That would require your having an office to return to.

    Exactly, which I do

    https://postimg.cc/Jyg1x2h6

    Fancy office building

    GUFFAW!



    I made no claims it was "fancy."




    You've obviously never seen the inside of an office.

    Dumbass.




    Is that your photo??


    Yes... that's me at the office where I work.




    Thanks - its nice to put a face to some of the people that post here. Mostly only see photos of Will.


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu Feb 26 14:40:44 2026
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    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    Rudy Canoza <rc> posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    Thanks again for the in-depth review, Harry Lime
    I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office later today. >>>
    That would require your having an office to return to.

    Exactly, which I do

    https://postimg.cc/Jyg1x2h6

    Fancy office building

    GUFFAW!



    I made no claims it was "fancy."




    You've obviously never seen the inside of an office.




    I'm just talking about a work area for writing and art, it's not worth arguing about.


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu Feb 26 14:55:55 2026
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    MummyChunk wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    MummyChunk wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    Rudy Canoza <rc> posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    Thanks again for the in-depth review, Harry Lime
    I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office later today.

    That would require your having an office to return to.

    Exactly, which I do

    https://postimg.cc/Jyg1x2h6

    Fancy office building

    GUFFAW!



    I made no claims it was "fancy."




    You've obviously never seen the inside of an office.

    Dumbass.




    Is that your photo??


    Yes... that's me at the office where I work.



    Thanks - its nice to put a face to some of the people that post here. Mostly only see photos of Will.



    Hello there, MummyChunk, yes the JLA Forums attachment feature definitely has had some interesting uses.


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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri Feb 27 05:58:30 2026
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    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    MummyChunk wrote:
    HarryLime wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote

    Thanks again for the in-depth review, Harry Lime
    I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office later today.

    That would require your having an office to return to.

    Exactly, which I do

    I made no claims it was "fancy."

    You've obviously never seen the inside of an office.

    I have my work area, which is my office.

    Is that your photo??

    Yes... that's me at the office where I work.

    Good looking office, Harry.
    --
    Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:
    https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri Feb 27 06:42:51 2026
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    mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) posted:
    HarryLime wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    I made no claims it was "fancy."

    You've obviously never seen

    Is that your photo??

    Yes that's Harry Lime aka Michael Pendleton.
    --
    Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:
    https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri Feb 27 07:29:06 2026
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    mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) posted:

    HarryLime wrote:
    MummyChunk wrote:
    HarryLime wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    Thanks again for the in-depth review, Harry Lime
    I'll respond to it point-by-point when I return to the office later today.

    That would require your having an office to return to.

    Exactly, which I do

    I made no claims it was "fancy."

    You've obviously never seen the inside of an office.

    Is that your photo??

    Yes... that's me at the office where I work.

    Thanks - its nice to put a face to some of the people that post here. Mostly only see photos of Will.

    Years ago we had a Usenet Poet photo gallery, the old site is still up, I'll post the link here if you'd like to see it.
    --
    Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:
    https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
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  • From mpsilvertone@mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri Feb 27 09:18:36 2026
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    Will Dockery wrote:
    mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) posted:

    HarryLime wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    I made no claims it was "fancy."

    You've obviously never seen

    Is that your photo??



    Yes that's Harry Lime aka Michael Pendleton.






    Damn, Drunky! You can't even get my name right.

    Dumbass.


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri Feb 27 09:43:02 2026
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    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) posted:

    HarryLime wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    I made no claims it was "fancy."

    You've obviously never seen

    Is that your photo??



    Yes that's Harry Lime aka Michael Pendragon.

    (Typo corrected)




    You can't even get my name right.




    That's pretty funny after all these years of your childish name-calling, Harry.

    EfOe


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri Feb 27 09:47:02 2026
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    mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) posted:

    HarryLime wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    I made no claims it was "fancy."

    You've obviously never seen

    Is that your photo??




    Yes that's Harry Lime aka Michael Pendragon.

    (Typo corrected.)

    --
    Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:
    https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri Feb 27 09:56:43 2026
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    George J. Dance wrote:
    Anther day, another change of topic, another new thread;
    from https://www.novabbs.com/arts/post.php

    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 7:36:06 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 7:11:59 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain aka
    "HarryLime" wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 2:38:29 +0000, WillnDockery wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 14:22:48 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain aka
    "HarryLime" wrote:

    Of course, I wrote a very similar opening line back in 1976 that has
    been visible online for at least a decade, and I hadn't seen the Robert
    Creeley poem either, "The seconds have piled up at the floor..."

    https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=256444&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#256444

    ***

    Shattered

    The seconds have piled up
    at the floor
    lost here in some other guy's past
    lying there
    with your seconds piled
    there went by a life
    untold
    unasked
    going by
    never caused and never traced
    the future never ever appears here.

    If some morning I wake
    here for you
    trying to find some reason to return
    if I see things denied
    I once defined
    a life just passed me by there
    slipped through my fingers
    everything here now is real
    so wait.
    That portion of the finish
    never comes.

    Now that the lights are going so low
    the dimming glow
    falls on my ego
    now that I'm falling
    into my morning
    here I am gazing into those
    reflector eyes
    morning light
    is blasting my head clean too.
    Morning's clearer
    I've been forgetting it.

    Your thoughts seem to stream
    like a highway
    dimming lights seem to streak
    like hitch-hikers.
    When does this dream end?
    When do I get on up the road?
    The light sped out
    like a fire-fly
    like gravestones
    never noticed
    never seen.
    Like marbles
    spilling from shattered minds.

    -Will Dockery / August 20 1976

    ***
    (Published March 1977 in the Carverlite, the Carver High School
    newspaper, Columbus Georgia)

    From:
    https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/shattered.html?m=1

    ***

    I didn't accuse you of borrowing my line, but they are very similar
    opening lines.

    No, they really aren't. "Time piles up" is a common expression
    -- as are more specific variations like "seconds pile up," "minutes pile
    up," "hours pile up," "days pile up," "weeks pile up," "months pile up,"
    etc.

    Not to mention the fact that "at the floor" is just bad English. The
    seconds would pile up *on* the floor, not *at* it.

    --

    After some thought and discussion with my editor, I agree.

    Although it doesn't matter at this point, the change in my poem was
    actually made by /another/ editor nearly fifty years ago, for the first
    publication in my high school newspaper:

    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15ndUbyxDi/

    In my original typed manuscript I had written:

    "The seconds have piled up on the floor, lost here in some other guy's
    past."

    But somewhere during the fancy typesetting, artwork and whatnot, my
    friend and editor Michael Ehrhart changed "on" to "at" and his overall
    job was so dazzling that we just ran with it back in 1976:

    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15ndUbyxDi/

    What's "dazzling" about it? It's chock full of errors.

    Thanks for reading and commenting.

    Can you point out the errors?

    Hopefully I caught them all in my later revisions.

    Your friend should have first run it past his English teacher... oh,
    right... your English teacher was Danny Barfield.



    Since the poem was edited for a high school "literary journal" it would
    have been run past the English teacher supervising it; which I don't
    think was Dan Barfield.

    Since Will's asked me to do a re-edit, I would also like to MMP's spell
    out of all those alleged "errors" - it would be very helpful.

    Your childish name calling is noted and corrected, Pendragon.



    Thanks again, GJD.

    Again, you nailed it.

    EfOe


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  • From mpsilvertone@mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri Feb 27 09:59:16 2026
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    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) posted:

    HarryLime wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    I made no claims it was "fancy."

    You've obviously never seen

    Is that your photo??



    Yes that's Harry Lime aka Michael Pendragon.

    (Typo corrected)




    You can't even get my name right.



    That's pretty funny after all these years of your childish name-calling, Harry.

    EfOe




    The difference is that on my part, it's a conscious choice.

    Drunken dumbass.


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri Feb 27 11:30:18 2026
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    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) posted:

    HarryLime wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    I made no claims it was "fancy."

    You've obviously never seen

    Is that your photo??



    Yes that's Harry Lime aka Michael Pendragon.

    (Typo corrected)




    You can't even get my name right.



    That's pretty funny after all these years of your childish name-calling, Harry.




    The difference is that on my part



    That you're a sleazy cyberbully wannabe troll?

    We know.

    EfOe


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  • From mpsilvertone@mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri Feb 27 11:46:43 2026
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    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) posted:

    HarryLime wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    I made no claims it was "fancy."

    You've obviously never seen

    Is that your photo??



    Yes that's Harry Lime aka Michael Pendragon.

    (Typo corrected)




    You can't even get my name right.



    That's pretty funny after all these years of your childish name-calling, Harry.




    The difference is that on my part


    That you're a sleazy cyberbully wannabe troll?

    We know.

    EfOe




    Post-editing people's statements ranks pretty high on the sleazy troll scale, Donkey.

    How stupid can one Donkey be?


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri Feb 27 11:53:48 2026
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    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) posted:

    HarryLime wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    I made no claims it was "fancy."

    You've obviously never seen

    Is that your photo??



    Yes that's Harry Lime aka Michael Pendragon.

    (Typo corrected)




    You can't even get my name right.



    That's pretty funny after all these years of your childish name-calling, Harry.




    The difference is that on my part


    That you're a sleazy cyberbully wannabe troll?

    We know.




    Post-editing



    I correct the lies and misrepresentations and set the record straight with the truth.


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  • From mpsilvertone@mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri Feb 27 12:20:43 2026
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    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) posted:

    HarryLime wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    I made no claims it was "fancy."

    You've obviously never seen

    Is that your photo??



    Yes that's Harry Lime aka Michael Pendragon.

    (Typo corrected)




    You can't even get my name right.



    That's pretty funny after all these years of your childish name-calling, Harry.




    The difference is that on my part


    That you're a sleazy cyberbully wannabe troll?

    We know.




    Post-editing


    I correct the lies and misrepresentations and set the record straight with the truth.



    Setting the record straight means presenting the truth.

    Intentionally misquoting someone is pretty much the opposite of setting the record straight.

    Deceitful dumbass.


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri Feb 27 14:51:47 2026
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    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) posted: >>>>>>>>
    HarryLime wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    I made no claims it was "fancy."

    You've obviously never seen

    Is that your photo??



    Yes that's Harry Lime aka Michael Pendragon.

    (Typo corrected)




    You can't even get my name right.



    That's pretty funny after all these years of your childish name-calling, Harry.




    The difference is that on my part


    That you're a sleazy cyberbully wannabe troll?

    We know.





    I correct the lies and misrepresentations and set the record straight with the truth.


    Setting the record straight means presenting the truth.




    Absolutely, and I'm always truthful.

    --
    Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:
    https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery


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  • From mpsilvertone@mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri Feb 27 14:59:39 2026
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    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) posted: >>>>>>>>>
    HarryLime wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    I made no claims it was "fancy."

    You've obviously never seen

    Is that your photo??



    Yes that's Harry Lime aka Michael Pendragon.

    (Typo corrected)




    You can't even get my name right.



    That's pretty funny after all these years of your childish name-calling, Harry.




    The difference is that on my part


    That you're a sleazy cyberbully wannabe troll?

    We know.





    I correct the lies and misrepresentations and set the record straight with the truth.


    Setting the record straight means presenting the truth.



    Absolutely, and I'm always truthful.




    Over the course of the past two days, you've been caught in several lies.

    And that's actual, straight-out examples of bald-faced lying.

    You've deceitfully post-edited dozens of statements as well.

    You're becoming a big a pathological liar as the late, unlamented Pickles Pickering.

    Douchebag.


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri Feb 27 17:29:57 2026
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    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) posted: >>>>>>>>>>
    HarryLime wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    I made no claims it was "fancy."

    You've obviously never seen

    Is that your photo??



    Yes that's Harry Lime aka Michael Pendragon.

    (Typo corrected)




    You can't even get my name right.



    That's pretty funny after all these years of your childish name-calling, Harry.




    The difference is that on my part


    That you're a sleazy cyberbully wannabe troll?

    We know.





    I correct the lies and misrepresentations and set the record straight with the truth.


    Setting the record straight means presenting the truth.



    Absolutely, and I'm always truthful.



    Over the course of the past two days, you've been caught in several lies



    That's the lie, actually.

    You've been lying about and misrepresenting me for years, the last few days are no different, Harry.


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  • From mpsilvertone@mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat Feb 28 17:49:43 2026
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    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) posted: >>>>>>>>>>>
    HarryLime wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    I made no claims it was "fancy."

    You've obviously never seen

    Is that your photo??



    Yes that's Harry Lime aka Michael Pendragon.

    (Typo corrected)




    You can't even get my name right.



    That's pretty funny after all these years of your childish name-calling, Harry.




    The difference is that on my part


    That you're a sleazy cyberbully wannabe troll?

    We know.





    I correct the lies and misrepresentations and set the record straight with the truth.


    Setting the record straight means presenting the truth.



    Absolutely, and I'm always truthful.



    Over the course of the past two days, you've been caught in several lies


    That's the lie, actually.

    You've been lying about and misrepresenting me for years, the last few days are no different, Harry.



    EXAMPLE ONE:

    I said that Stinky G often confused "poetry" and "poetics."

    You said he didn't.

    I posted numerous examples.


    EXAMPLE TWO:

    I said that Clay had texted you on Facebook telling you not to talk about him here.

    You claimed that it was a forgery.

    I posted the thread where we discussed it.


    EXAMPLE THREE:

    I said that you claimed Clay and his family were waiting in front of their computer for an apology.

    You claimed it was another forgery.

    I posted your original statement.


    That's three lies that you were caught it.

    Your claiming that you correct lies and misrepresentations is yet another lie. You don't correct them. You create them.


    I think you're a compulsive liar.

    I think you've lied so much, and for so long, that you know longer realize when you're lying anymore.


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  • From mummycullen@mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat Feb 28 17:57:20 2026
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    George J. Dance wrote:
    Anther day, another change of topic, another new thread;
    from https://www.novabbs.com/arts/post.php

    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 7:36:06 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 7:11:59 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain aka
    "HarryLime" wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 2:38:29 +0000, WillnDockery wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 14:22:48 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain aka
    "HarryLime" wrote:

    Of course, I wrote a very similar opening line back in 1976 that has
    been visible online for at least a decade, and I hadn't seen the Robert
    Creeley poem either, "The seconds have piled up at the floor..."

    https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=256444&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#256444

    ***

    Shattered

    The seconds have piled up
    at the floor
    lost here in some other guy's past
    lying there
    with your seconds piled
    there went by a life
    untold
    unasked
    going by
    never caused and never traced
    the future never ever appears here.

    If some morning I wake
    here for you
    trying to find some reason to return
    if I see things denied
    I once defined
    a life just passed me by there
    slipped through my fingers
    everything here now is real
    so wait.
    That portion of the finish
    never comes.

    Now that the lights are going so low
    the dimming glow
    falls on my ego
    now that I'm falling
    into my morning
    here I am gazing into those
    reflector eyes
    morning light
    is blasting my head clean too.
    Morning's clearer
    I've been forgetting it.

    Your thoughts seem to stream
    like a highway
    dimming lights seem to streak
    like hitch-hikers.
    When does this dream end?
    When do I get on up the road?
    The light sped out
    like a fire-fly
    like gravestones
    never noticed
    never seen.
    Like marbles
    spilling from shattered minds.

    -Will Dockery / August 20 1976

    ***
    (Published March 1977 in the Carverlite, the Carver High School
    newspaper, Columbus Georgia)

    From:
    https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/shattered.html?m=1

    ***

    I didn't accuse you of borrowing my line, but they are very similar
    opening lines.

    No, they really aren't. "Time piles up" is a common expression
    -- as are more specific variations like "seconds pile up," "minutes pile
    up," "hours pile up," "days pile up," "weeks pile up," "months pile up,"
    etc.

    Not to mention the fact that "at the floor" is just bad English. The
    seconds would pile up *on* the floor, not *at* it.

    --

    After some thought and discussion with my editor, I agree.

    Although it doesn't matter at this point, the change in my poem was
    actually made by /another/ editor nearly fifty years ago, for the first
    publication in my high school newspaper:

    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15ndUbyxDi/

    In my original typed manuscript I had written:

    "The seconds have piled up on the floor, lost here in some other guy's
    past."

    But somewhere during the fancy typesetting, artwork and whatnot, my
    friend and editor Michael Ehrhart changed "on" to "at" and his overall
    job was so dazzling that we just ran with it back in 1976:

    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15ndUbyxDi/

    What's "dazzling" about it? It's chock full of errors.

    Thanks for reading and commenting.

    Can you point out the errors?

    Hopefully I caught them all in my later revisions.

    Your friend should have first run it past his English teacher... oh,
    right... your English teacher was Danny Barfield.



    Since the poem was edited for a high school "literary journal" it would
    have been run past the English teacher supervising it; which I don't
    think was Dan Barfield.

    Since Will's asked me to do a re-edit, I would also like to MMP's spell
    out of all those alleged "errors" - it would be very helpful.

    Your childish name calling is noted and corrected, Pendragon.



    ??


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat Feb 28 18:50:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    George J. Dance wrote:
    Anther day, another change of topic, another new thread;
    from https://www.novabbs.com/arts/post.php

    Will Dockery wrote:

    Michael Monkey Peabrain aka
    "HarryLime" wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    Michael Monkey Peabrain aka
    "HarryLime" wrote:

    Of course, I wrote a very similar opening line back in 1976 that has
    been visible online for at least a decade, and I hadn't seen the Robert
    Creeley poem either, "The seconds have piled up at the floor..."

    https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=256444&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#256444

    ***

    Shattered

    The seconds have piled up
    at the floor
    lost here in some other guy's past
    lying there
    with your seconds piled
    there went by a life
    untold
    unasked
    going by
    never caused and never traced
    the future never ever appears here.

    If some morning I wake
    here for you
    trying to find some reason to return
    if I see things denied
    I once defined
    a life just passed me by there
    slipped through my fingers
    everything here now is real
    so wait.
    That portion of the finish
    never comes.

    Now that the lights are going so low
    the dimming glow
    falls on my ego
    now that I'm falling
    into my morning
    here I am gazing into those
    reflector eyes
    morning light
    is blasting my head clean too.
    Morning's clearer
    I've been forgetting it.

    Your thoughts seem to stream
    like a highway
    dimming lights seem to streak
    like hitch-hikers.
    When does this dream end?
    When do I get on up the road?
    The light sped out
    like a fire-fly
    like gravestones
    never noticed
    never seen.
    Like marbles
    spilling from shattered minds.

    -Will Dockery / August 20 1976

    ***
    (Published March 1977 in the Carverlite, the Carver High School
    newspaper, Columbus Georgia)

    From:
    https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/shattered.html?m=1

    ***

    I didn't accuse you of borrowing my line, but they are very similar
    opening lines.

    No, they really aren't. "Time piles up" is a common expression
    -- as are more specific variations like "seconds pile up," "minutes pile
    up," "hours pile up," "days pile up," "weeks pile up," "months pile up,"
    etc.

    Not to mention the fact that "at the floor" is just bad English. The
    seconds would pile up *on* the floor, not *at* it.

    --

    After some thought and discussion with my editor, I agree.

    Although it doesn't matter at this point, the change in my poem was
    actually made by /another/ editor nearly fifty years ago, for the first
    publication in my high school newspaper:

    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15ndUbyxDi/

    In my original typed manuscript I had written:

    "The seconds have piled up on the floor, lost here in some other guy's
    past."

    But somewhere during the fancy typesetting, artwork and whatnot, my
    friend and editor Michael Ehrhart changed "on" to "at" and his overall
    job was so dazzling that we just ran with it back in 1976:

    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15ndUbyxDi/

    What's "dazzling" about it? It's chock full of errors.

    Thanks for reading and commenting.

    Can you point out the errors?

    Hopefully I caught them all in my later revisions.

    Your friend should have first run it past his English teacher... oh,
    right... your English teacher was Danny Barfield.



    Since the poem was edited for a high school "literary journal" it would
    have been run past the English teacher supervising it; which I don't
    think was Dan Barfield.

    Since Will's asked me to do a re-edit, I would also like to MMP's spell
    out of all those alleged "errors" - it would be very helpful.

    Your childish name calling is noted and corrected, Pendragon.



    Thanks again, GJD.

    Efye


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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun Mar 1 05:05:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments


    mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) posted:
    George J. Dance wrote:

    Anther day, another change of topic, another new thread;
    from https://www.novabbs.com/arts/post.php

    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 7:36:06 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 7:11:59 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain aka
    "HarryLime" wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 2:38:29 +0000, WillnDockery wrote:
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 14:22:48 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain aka
    "HarryLime" wrote:

    Of course, I wrote a very similar opening line back in 1976 that has
    been visible online for at least a decade, and I hadn't seen the Robert
    Creeley poem either, "The seconds have piled up at the floor..."

    https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=256444&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#256444

    ***

    Shattered

    The seconds have piled up
    at the floor
    lost here in some other guy's past
    lying there
    with your seconds piled
    there went by a life
    untold
    unasked
    going by
    never caused and never traced
    the future never ever appears here.

    If some morning I wake
    here for you
    trying to find some reason to return
    if I see things denied
    I once defined
    a life just passed me by there
    slipped through my fingers
    everything here now is real
    so wait.
    That portion of the finish
    never comes.

    Now that the lights are going so low
    the dimming glow
    falls on my ego
    now that I'm falling
    into my morning
    here I am gazing into those
    reflector eyes
    morning light
    is blasting my head clean too.
    Morning's clearer
    I've been forgetting it.

    Your thoughts seem to stream
    like a highway
    dimming lights seem to streak
    like hitch-hikers.
    When does this dream end?
    When do I get on up the road?
    The light sped out
    like a fire-fly
    like gravestones
    never noticed
    never seen.
    Like marbles
    spilling from shattered minds.

    -Will Dockery / August 20 1976

    ***
    (Published March 1977 in the Carverlite, the Carver High School
    newspaper, Columbus Georgia)

    From:
    https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/shattered.html?m=1

    ***

    I didn't accuse you of borrowing my line, but they are very similar
    opening lines.

    No, they really aren't. "Time piles up" is a common expression
    -- as are more specific variations like "seconds pile up," "minutes pile >> up," "hours pile up," "days pile up," "weeks pile up," "months pile up," >> etc.

    Not to mention the fact that "at the floor" is just bad English. The
    seconds would pile up *on* the floor, not *at* it.

    --

    After some thought and discussion with my editor, I agree.

    Although it doesn't matter at this point, the change in my poem was
    actually made by /another/ editor nearly fifty years ago, for the first
    publication in my high school newspaper:

    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15ndUbyxDi/

    In my original typed manuscript I had written:

    "The seconds have piled up on the floor, lost here in some other guy's
    past."

    But somewhere during the fancy typesetting, artwork and whatnot, my
    friend and editor Michael Ehrhart changed "on" to "at" and his overall
    job was so dazzling that we just ran with it back in 1976:

    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15ndUbyxDi/

    What's "dazzling" about it? It's chock full of errors.

    Thanks for reading and commenting.

    Can you point out the errors?

    Hopefully I caught them all in my later revisions.

    Your friend should have first run it past his English teacher... oh,
    right... your English teacher was Danny Barfield.

    Since the poem was edited for a high school "literary journal" it would have been run past the English teacher supervising it; which I don't
    think was Dan Barfield.

    Since Will's asked me to do a re-edit, I would also like to MMP's spell
    out of all those alleged "errors" - it would be very helpful.

    ??

    A line that didn't get snipped, now done.

    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=683954804#683954804
    --
    Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:
    https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
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