• Re: Dorothy Livesay -- Mathematics

    From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed Feb 25 21:44:32 2026
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    nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) posted:
    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    HarryLime wrote:
    NancyGene wrote:
    David Dalton wrote:

    HererCOs a poem by Dorothy Livesay

    -------

    How do you interpret that? I guess there are
    many complex mth roots of 1=2*n*pi, n=0,1,2...
    Also I guess the heart could be a cardioid. :-)

    In the above poem some multiple spaces will
    have been converted to a single space by my
    newsreader Hogwasher, which does not
    allow posting of multiple spaces (or spaces
    at the start of a line) or of multiple blank lines.

    Searching for actual mathematical equations regarding the root of one, might be over thinking it a bit.

    Its message is more elementary than that; she's applying mathematical formulas to sexual patterns:

    Much talk... no bed. Or, MT>B. B=0.

    Some talk... some bed. Or, ST=B. B=ST.

    No talk... all bed; and talk tomorrow. Or, NT<B [+ T] tomorrow.

    IOW: The speaker is recognizing patterns in her mate's sexual behavior which she sarcastically refers to as "the great game."

    Recognizing the patterns reduces sex to a "game" -- a predetermined set of movements that one goes through by rote.

    This, in turn, reduces the speaker's desire.

    She says that she meant to "hold your bones deep to the root of one." This passage is full of sexual overtones (winking references to penile erection and deep penetration), reflecting the wild, uncontrolled passion she had felt.

    Unfortunately, her recognition of their behavioral "formulas" regarding sex has put her out of the mood. B=0.

    It's clever, but emotionally flat.

    The poem is also not in the public domain in the US or Canada. Ms. Livesay died in 1996, so that is not: "General Rule (Post-2022): Death of author + 70 years."

    David Dalton, please do not commit copyright infringement.

    Perhaps David is unaware of the recent changes in Canadian Copyright law.

    perhaps you are also:

    As far as I know I mostly up to date, as George Dsnce and I have discovered the changing laws in Canada here several times over the years.

    "Before December 30, 2022, the general copyright term in Canada was the life of the author plus 50 years (ending on December 31 of that 50th year). This standard applied to most literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works. Works already in the public domain as of December 31, 2021, remained free." (From George Dance's favorite source.)

    Ms. Livesay died in 1996. David Dalton should be able to do the math. >>>>
    [...]

    I'd mentioned in the past that my earliest extant poem dates from around the time I was 16.

    I'm not far behind you, then

    I did recently find some old comic strips I drew back around 1969. >>>>>
    You would have been 10/11 years old in 1969.

    Again, that's correct.

    I was drawing comix in 1969, not really writing poetry quite yet.

    HTH and HAND.

    You should have displayed it

    Will Donkey xxxxxxxxxx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx

    Childish name-calling from NancyGene noted, additional troll content removed.

    Kevin Fries' observation about NancyGene being a troll is proven correct once again.
    --
    Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:
    https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
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  • From nancygene.andjayme@nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed Feb 25 16:49:15 2026
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    Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
    nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) wrote in news:GxOdnSM1qud7gAL0nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com:


    HarryLime wrote:

    NancyGene wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime)
    posted: Will Dockery wrote:
    HarryLime wrote:
    NancyGene wrote:
    David Dalton wrote:

    HererCOs a poem by Dorothy Livesay

    -------

    How do you interpret that? I guess there are
    many complex mth roots of 1=2*n*pi, n=0,1,2...
    Also I guess the heart could be a cardioid. :-)

    In the above poem some multiple spaces will
    have been converted to a single space by my
    newsreader Hogwasher, which does not
    allow posting of multiple spaces (or spaces
    at the start of a line) or of multiple blank lines.

    Searching for actual mathematical equations regarding the
    root of one, might be over thinking it a bit.

    Its message is more elementary than that; she's applying
    mathematical formulas to sexual patterns:

    Much talk... no bed. Or, MT>B. B=0.

    Some talk... some bed. Or, ST=B. B=ST.

    No talk... all bed; and talk tomorrow. Or, NT<B [+ T]
    tomorrow.

    IOW: The speaker is recognizing patterns in her mate's sexual
    behavior which she sarcastically refers to as "the great
    game."

    Recognizing the patterns reduces sex to a "game" -- a
    predetermined set of movements that one goes through by rote.

    This, in turn, reduces the speaker's desire.

    She says that she meant to "hold your bones deep to the root
    of one." This passage is full of sexual overtones (winking
    references to penile erection and deep penetration),
    reflecting the wild, uncontrolled passion she had felt.

    Unfortunately, her recognition of their behavioral "formulas"
    regarding sex has put her out of the mood. B=0.

    It's clever, but emotionally flat.

    The poem is also not in the public domain in the US or
    Canada. Ms. Livesay died in 1996, so that is not: "General
    Rule (Post-2022): Death of author + 70 years."

    David Dalton, please do not commit copyright infringement.

    Perhaps David is unaware of the recent changes in Canadian
    Copyright law.

    perhaps you are also:

    As far as I know I mostly up to date, as George Dsnce and I
    have discovered the changing laws in Canada here several
    times over the years.

    "Before December 30, 2022, the general copyright term in
    Canada was the life of the author plus 50 years (ending on
    December 31 of that 50th year). This standard applied to most
    literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works. Works
    already in the public domain as of December 31, 2021,
    remained free." (From George Dance's favorite source.)

    Ms. Livesay died in 1996. David Dalton should be able to do
    the math.

    [...]

    I'd mentioned in the past that my earliest extant poem dates
    from around the time I was 16.

    I'm not far behind you, then

    I did recently find some old comic strips I drew back around
    1969.

    You would have been 10/11 years old in 1969.

    Again, that's correct.

    I was drawing comix in 1969, not really writing poetry quite
    yet.

    I've drawn literally thousands of comic strips throughout my
    life.

    You should have left those

    I don't agree obviously.

    Was posting it twice




    Just catching up on a couple dozen posts from you and your
    fellow trolls tonight, Harry.



    WTF


    Says Harry the troll.



    Is the "scribble zine" scan



    Like I said.

    EfyA


    Is your post-editing my statements supposed to prove that *I'm* a
    troll, Donkey?

    How stupid can one dumbass Donkey be?


    A Will Donkey can be very, very stupid. He is too stupid to know
    that he's stupid. Donkey is a living (sort of) example of the
    Dunning-Kruger effect.


    While the Donkey certainly exhibits signs of the Dunning-Kruger
    effect, I suspect that these are actually symptoms of a deeper,
    underlying condition -- delusions of adequacy. Whereas the
    Dunning-Kruger effect stems from stopping (or fixating) in the early
    stages of the learning curve, creating the false self-perception of
    mastery in a given field or topic; delusions of adequacy pertain to
    all elements of the individual's life regardless of whether any
    learning has successfully taken place. An individual suffering from
    delusions of adequacy, develops an ego-centric stance of
    self-absorption to the point where they are unable to view the world
    existing outside of their immediate orbit as having an relevance.
    Having received a gold star on a crayon drawing they'd made in
    kindergarten makes them a great artist. Having received a "Best
    Poet" award from a local listings paper that was handing out prizes
    to everyone who nominated themselves makes them a great poet, etc.
    And anyone who points out their lack of ability/talent, or questions
    their mastery in any way, is part of a conspiracy of jealous "trolls"
    who are out to get them.

    While this sounds suspiciously similar to someone suffering from
    delusions of grandeur, with a persecution complex arising as a means
    of compensation; a person with delusions of grandeur is
    ordinary/adequate to begin with. A person with delusions of
    adequacy, otoh, usually possesses an IQ of 70 or less, and exists at
    the lowest levels of society (bum camps, dilapidated sheds, etc.).
    The person with delusions of adequacy also tends to elevate
    themselves to an even higher position than one with delusions of
    grandeur. The latter, only mistakenly perceive themselves as great;
    whereas the former perceives themselves to not only be great, but
    successful, famous, and deservedly celebrated too boot.

    In his mind, Will Donkey is a legendary television star (not only was
    he the host of "Kaleidoscope," but he starred in a commercial for a
    local used car lot. He wrote a monthly column in an "Arts" magazine
    with a circulation of 500,000. He has written and published numerous
    chapbooks and comic books (and is in the Comics Hall of Fame), has
    had his poetry featured in the "Poets' Market" directories, sung and
    played various instruments in 1,000s of concerts, held the number 1
    spot on Reverbnation for the past 30 years, dazzled the world with
    his abstract paintings, met and befriended such literary giants as
    Ahnos Zu-Bolton, appeared in documentary films chronicling the
    Columbus Art and Music scene, and his "Zorro!" video went viral on
    Youtube. In short, he is the greatest artist (all fields) of the
    late 20th/early 21st centuries, and is busy "setting the record
    straight" for the future historians who will be desperate to glean
    any information they can about "the great, bumpy and wild ride (of)
    being Will Dockery."



    Very astute observations, Michael. Donkey is below inadequate, in the
    pathetic and laughable range, yet he thinks he is great at everything
    he does. Maybe it's the liquor and drugs--or when Mildred used to
    say, "Good dog," when Donkey went #2 outside instead of on the dirt
    floor.

    Too bad Pickles isn't around (not really) to follow Will Donkey from
    venue to venue, chronicling his every performance and grunt.



    Think Donkey is paper trained? I doubt it myself.



    Those ragged "song books" that Will Donkey carries around double as puppy pads. Mildred used to make them out of Will's crude drawings. They didn't have a bird cage.


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=701808461#701808461
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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu Feb 26 08:56:41 2026
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    nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime)
    posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    NancyGene wrote:
    David Dalton wrote:

    HererCOs a poem by Dorothy Livesay

    -------

    How do you interpret that? I guess there are
    many complex mth roots of 1=2*n*pi, n=0,1,2...
    Also I guess the heart could be a cardioid. :-)

    In the above poem some multiple spaces will
    have been converted to a single space by my
    newsreader Hogwasher, which does not
    allow posting of multiple spaces (or spaces
    at the start of a line) or of multiple blank lines.

    Searching for actual mathematical equations regarding the
    root of one, might be over thinking it a bit.

    Its message is more elementary than that; she's applying
    mathematical formulas to sexual patterns:

    Much talk... no bed. Or, MT>B. B=0.

    Some talk... some bed. Or, ST=B. B=ST.

    No talk... all bed; and talk tomorrow. Or, NT<B [+ T]
    tomorrow.

    IOW: The speaker is recognizing patterns in her mate's sexual
    behavior which she sarcastically refers to as "the great
    game."

    Recognizing the patterns reduces sex to a "game" -- a
    predetermined set of movements that one goes through by rote.

    This, in turn, reduces the speaker's desire.

    She says that she meant to "hold your bones deep to the root
    of one." This passage is full of sexual overtones (winking
    references to penile erection and deep penetration),
    reflecting the wild, uncontrolled passion she had felt.

    Unfortunately, her recognition of their behavioral "formulas"
    regarding sex has put her out of the mood. B=0.

    It's clever, but emotionally flat.

    The poem is also not in the public domain in the US or
    Canada. Ms. Livesay died in 1996, so that is not: "General
    Rule (Post-2022): Death of author + 70 years."

    David Dalton, please do not commit copyright infringement.

    Perhaps David is unaware of the recent changes in Canadian
    Copyright law.

    perhaps you are also:

    As far as I know I mostly up to date, as George Dsnce and I
    have discovered the changing laws in Canada here several
    times over the years.

    "Before December 30, 2022, the general copyright term in
    Canada was the life of the author plus 50 years (ending on
    December 31 of that 50th year). This standard applied to most
    literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works. Works
    already in the public domain as of December 31, 2021,
    remained free." (From George Dance's favorite source.)

    Ms. Livesay died in 1996. David Dalton should be able to do
    the math.

    [...]

    I'd mentioned in the past that my earliest extant poem dates
    from around the time I was 16.

    I'm not far behind you, then

    I did recently find some old comic strips I drew back around
    1969.

    You would have been 10/11 years old in 1969.

    Again, that's correct.

    I was drawing comix in 1969, not really writing poetry quite
    yet.

    I've drawn literally thousands of comic strips throughout my
    life.

    You should have left those

    I don't agree obviously.

    Just catching up on a couple dozen posts from you and your
    fellow trolls tonight, Harry.

    WTF

    Says Harry the troll.

    Those ragged "song books" that Will
    carries around

    Admission of stalking by NG noted.
    --
    Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:
    https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
    --- Synchronet 3.21b-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From mpsilvertone@mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu Feb 26 11:18:34 2026
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    Will Dockery wrote:
    nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime)
    posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    NancyGene wrote:
    David Dalton wrote:

    HererCOs a poem by Dorothy Livesay

    -------

    How do you interpret that? I guess there are
    many complex mth roots of 1=2*n*pi, n=0,1,2...
    Also I guess the heart could be a cardioid. :-)

    In the above poem some multiple spaces will
    have been converted to a single space by my
    newsreader Hogwasher, which does not
    allow posting of multiple spaces (or spaces
    at the start of a line) or of multiple blank lines.

    Searching for actual mathematical equations regarding the
    root of one, might be over thinking it a bit.

    Its message is more elementary than that; she's applying
    mathematical formulas to sexual patterns:

    Much talk... no bed. Or, MT>B. B=0.

    Some talk... some bed. Or, ST=B. B=ST.

    No talk... all bed; and talk tomorrow. Or, NT<B [+ T]
    tomorrow.

    IOW: The speaker is recognizing patterns in her mate's sexual
    behavior which she sarcastically refers to as "the great
    game."

    Recognizing the patterns reduces sex to a "game" -- a
    predetermined set of movements that one goes through by rote.

    This, in turn, reduces the speaker's desire.

    She says that she meant to "hold your bones deep to the root
    of one." This passage is full of sexual overtones (winking
    references to penile erection and deep penetration),
    reflecting the wild, uncontrolled passion she had felt.

    Unfortunately, her recognition of their behavioral "formulas"
    regarding sex has put her out of the mood. B=0.

    It's clever, but emotionally flat.

    The poem is also not in the public domain in the US or
    Canada. Ms. Livesay died in 1996, so that is not: "General
    Rule (Post-2022): Death of author + 70 years."

    David Dalton, please do not commit copyright infringement.

    Perhaps David is unaware of the recent changes in Canadian
    Copyright law.

    perhaps you are also:

    As far as I know I mostly up to date, as George Dsnce and I
    have discovered the changing laws in Canada here several
    times over the years.

    "Before December 30, 2022, the general copyright term in
    Canada was the life of the author plus 50 years (ending on
    December 31 of that 50th year). This standard applied to most
    literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works. Works
    already in the public domain as of December 31, 2021,
    remained free." (From George Dance's favorite source.)

    Ms. Livesay died in 1996. David Dalton should be able to do
    the math.

    [...]

    I'd mentioned in the past that my earliest extant poem dates
    from around the time I was 16.

    I'm not far behind you, then

    I did recently find some old comic strips I drew back around
    1969.

    You would have been 10/11 years old in 1969.

    Again, that's correct.

    I was drawing comix in 1969, not really writing poetry quite
    yet.

    I've drawn literally thousands of comic strips throughout my
    life.

    You should have left those

    I don't agree obviously.

    Just catching up on a couple dozen posts from you and your
    fellow trolls tonight, Harry.

    WTF

    Says Harry the troll.


    Those ragged "song books" that Will Donkey carries around double as puppy pads. Mildred used to make them out of Will's crude drawings. They didn't have a bird cage.



    Admission of stalking by NG noted.





    And here I thought that NancyGene was joking.

    Sometimes it's better to ignore a post, than to implicitly admit to its accuracy by accusing the poster of "stalking."

    Dumbass.


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  • From nancygene.andjayme@nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu Feb 26 11:15:37 2026
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    NancyGene wrote:

    Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
    nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) wrote in
    news:GxOdnSM1qud7gAL0nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com:


    HarryLime wrote:

    NancyGene wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime)
    posted: Will Dockery wrote:
    HarryLime wrote:
    NancyGene wrote:
    David Dalton wrote:

    HererCOs a poem by Dorothy Livesay

    -------

    How do you interpret that? I guess there are
    many complex mth roots of 1=2*n*pi, n=0,1,2...
    Also I guess the heart could be a cardioid. :-)

    In the above poem some multiple spaces will
    have been converted to a single space by my
    newsreader Hogwasher, which does not
    allow posting of multiple spaces (or spaces
    at the start of a line) or of multiple blank lines.

    Searching for actual mathematical equations regarding the
    root of one, might be over thinking it a bit.

    Its message is more elementary than that; she's applying
    mathematical formulas to sexual patterns:

    Much talk... no bed. Or, MT>B. B=0.

    Some talk... some bed. Or, ST=B. B=ST.

    No talk... all bed; and talk tomorrow. Or, NT<B [+ T]
    tomorrow.

    IOW: The speaker is recognizing patterns in her mate's sexual
    behavior which she sarcastically refers to as "the great
    game."

    Recognizing the patterns reduces sex to a "game" -- a
    predetermined set of movements that one goes through by rote.

    This, in turn, reduces the speaker's desire.

    She says that she meant to "hold your bones deep to the root
    of one." This passage is full of sexual overtones (winking
    references to penile erection and deep penetration),
    reflecting the wild, uncontrolled passion she had felt.

    Unfortunately, her recognition of their behavioral "formulas"
    regarding sex has put her out of the mood. B=0.

    It's clever, but emotionally flat.

    The poem is also not in the public domain in the US or
    Canada. Ms. Livesay died in 1996, so that is not: "General
    Rule (Post-2022): Death of author + 70 years."

    David Dalton, please do not commit copyright infringement.

    Perhaps David is unaware of the recent changes in Canadian
    Copyright law.

    perhaps you are also:

    As far as I know I mostly up to date, as George Dsnce and I
    have discovered the changing laws in Canada here several
    times over the years.

    "Before December 30, 2022, the general copyright term in
    Canada was the life of the author plus 50 years (ending on
    December 31 of that 50th year). This standard applied to most
    literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works. Works
    already in the public domain as of December 31, 2021,
    remained free." (From George Dance's favorite source.)

    Ms. Livesay died in 1996. David Dalton should be able to do
    the math.

    [...]

    I'd mentioned in the past that my earliest extant poem dates
    from around the time I was 16.

    I'm not far behind you, then

    I did recently find some old comic strips I drew back around
    1969.

    You would have been 10/11 years old in 1969.

    Again, that's correct.

    I was drawing comix in 1969, not really writing poetry quite
    yet.

    I've drawn literally thousands of comic strips throughout my
    life.

    You should have left those

    I don't agree obviously.

    Was posting it twice




    Just catching up on a couple dozen posts from you and your
    fellow trolls tonight, Harry.



    WTF


    Says Harry the troll.



    Is the "scribble zine" scan



    Like I said.

    EfyA


    Is your post-editing my statements supposed to prove that *I'm* a
    troll, Donkey?

    How stupid can one dumbass Donkey be?


    A Will Donkey can be very, very stupid. He is too stupid to know
    that he's stupid. Donkey is a living (sort of) example of the
    Dunning-Kruger effect.


    While the Donkey certainly exhibits signs of the Dunning-Kruger
    effect, I suspect that these are actually symptoms of a deeper,
    underlying condition -- delusions of adequacy. Whereas the
    Dunning-Kruger effect stems from stopping (or fixating) in the early
    stages of the learning curve, creating the false self-perception of
    mastery in a given field or topic; delusions of adequacy pertain to
    all elements of the individual's life regardless of whether any
    learning has successfully taken place. An individual suffering from
    delusions of adequacy, develops an ego-centric stance of
    self-absorption to the point where they are unable to view the world
    existing outside of their immediate orbit as having an relevance.
    Having received a gold star on a crayon drawing they'd made in
    kindergarten makes them a great artist. Having received a "Best
    Poet" award from a local listings paper that was handing out prizes
    to everyone who nominated themselves makes them a great poet, etc.
    And anyone who points out their lack of ability/talent, or questions
    their mastery in any way, is part of a conspiracy of jealous "trolls"
    who are out to get them.

    While this sounds suspiciously similar to someone suffering from
    delusions of grandeur, with a persecution complex arising as a means
    of compensation; a person with delusions of grandeur is
    ordinary/adequate to begin with. A person with delusions of
    adequacy, otoh, usually possesses an IQ of 70 or less, and exists at
    the lowest levels of society (bum camps, dilapidated sheds, etc.).
    The person with delusions of adequacy also tends to elevate
    themselves to an even higher position than one with delusions of
    grandeur. The latter, only mistakenly perceive themselves as great;
    whereas the former perceives themselves to not only be great, but
    successful, famous, and deservedly celebrated too boot.

    In his mind, Will Donkey is a legendary television star (not only was
    he the host of "Kaleidoscope," but he starred in a commercial for a
    local used car lot. He wrote a monthly column in an "Arts" magazine
    with a circulation of 500,000. He has written and published numerous
    chapbooks and comic books (and is in the Comics Hall of Fame), has
    had his poetry featured in the "Poets' Market" directories, sung and
    played various instruments in 1,000s of concerts, held the number 1
    spot on Reverbnation for the past 30 years, dazzled the world with
    his abstract paintings, met and befriended such literary giants as
    Ahnos Zu-Bolton, appeared in documentary films chronicling the
    Columbus Art and Music scene, and his "Zorro!" video went viral on
    Youtube. In short, he is the greatest artist (all fields) of the
    late 20th/early 21st centuries, and is busy "setting the record
    straight" for the future historians who will be desperate to glean
    any information they can about "the great, bumpy and wild ride (of)
    being Will Dockery."



    Very astute observations, Michael. Donkey is below inadequate, in the
    pathetic and laughable range, yet he thinks he is great at everything
    he does. Maybe it's the liquor and drugs--or when Mildred used to
    say, "Good dog," when Donkey went #2 outside instead of on the dirt
    floor.

    Too bad Pickles isn't around (not really) to follow Will Donkey from
    venue to venue, chronicling his every performance and grunt.



    Think Donkey is paper trained? I doubt it myself.


    Those ragged "song books" that Will Donkey carries around double as puppy pads. Mildred used to make them out of Will's crude drawings. They didn't have a bird cage.



    The "song books" are blank. Will Donkey can't read.


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=701808461#701808461
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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu Feb 26 16:33:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments


    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    David Dalton wrote:

    HererCOs a poem by Dorothy Livesay

    -------

    How do you interpret that? I guess there are
    many complex mth roots of 1=2*n*pi, n=0,1,2...
    Also I guess the heart could be a cardioid. :-)

    In the above poem some multiple spaces will
    have been converted to a single space by my
    newsreader Hogwasher, which does not
    allow posting of multiple spaces (or spaces
    at the start of a line) or of multiple blank lines.

    Searching for actual mathematical equations regarding the
    root of one, might be over thinking it a bit.

    Its message is more elementary than that; she's applying
    mathematical formulas to sexual patterns:

    Much talk... no bed. Or, MT>B. B=0.

    Some talk... some bed. Or, ST=B. B=ST.

    No talk... all bed; and talk tomorrow. Or, NT<B [+ T]
    tomorrow.

    IOW: The speaker is recognizing patterns in her mate's sexual
    behavior which she sarcastically refers to as "the great
    game."

    Recognizing the patterns reduces sex to a "game" -- a
    predetermined set of movements that one goes through by rote.

    This, in turn, reduces the speaker's desire.

    She says that she meant to "hold your bones deep to the root
    of one." This passage is full of sexual overtones (winking
    references to penile erection and deep penetration),
    reflecting the wild, uncontrolled passion she had felt.

    Unfortunately, her recognition of their behavioral "formulas"
    regarding sex has put her out of the mood. B=0.

    It's clever, but emotionally flat.

    The poem is also not in the public domain in the US or
    Canada. Ms. Livesay died in 1996, so that is not: "General
    Rule (Post-2022): Death of author + 70 years."

    David Dalton, please do not commit copyright infringement.

    Perhaps David is unaware of the recent changes in Canadian
    Copyright law.

    perhaps you are also:

    As far as I know I mostly up to date, as George Dsnce and I
    have discovered the changing laws in Canada here several
    times over the years.

    "Before December 30, 2022, the general copyright term in
    Canada was the life of the author plus 50 years (ending on
    December 31 of that 50th year). This standard applied to most
    literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works. Works
    already in the public domain as of December 31, 2021,
    remained free." (From George Dance's favorite source.)

    Ms. Livesay died in 1996. David Dalton should be able to do
    the math.

    [...]

    I'd mentioned in the past that my earliest extant poem dates
    from around the time I was 16.

    I'm not far behind you, then

    I did recently find some old comic strips I drew back around
    1969.

    You would have been 10/11 years old in 1969.

    Again, that's correct.

    I was drawing comix in 1969, not really writing poetry quite
    yet.

    I've drawn literally thousands of comic strips throughout my
    life.

    You should have left those

    I don't agree obviously.

    Just catching up on a couple dozen posts from you and your
    fellow trolls tonight, Harry.

    WTF

    Says Harry the troll.

    Those ragged "song books" that Will xxxxxxxxxx xxxxx xxxxx

    Admission of stalking by NG noted.

    And here I thought that NancyGene was joking.

    Trolling, of course, as Kevin Fries pointed out.
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    https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu Feb 26 16:50:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments


    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime)
    posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    NancyGene wrote:
    David Dalton wrote:

    HererCOs a poem by Dorothy Livesay

    -------

    How do you interpret that? I guess there are
    many complex mth roots of 1=2*n*pi, n=0,1,2...
    Also I guess the heart could be a cardioid. :-)

    In the above poem some multiple spaces will
    have been converted to a single space by my
    newsreader Hogwasher, which does not
    allow posting of multiple spaces (or spaces
    at the start of a line) or of multiple blank lines.

    Searching for actual mathematical equations regarding the
    root of one, might be over thinking it a bit.

    Its message is more elementary than that; she's applying
    mathematical formulas to sexual patterns:

    Much talk... no bed. Or, MT>B. B=0.

    Some talk... some bed. Or, ST=B. B=ST.

    No talk... all bed; and talk tomorrow. Or, NT<B [+ T]
    tomorrow.

    IOW: The speaker is recognizing patterns in her mate's sexual
    behavior which she sarcastically refers to as "the great
    game."

    Recognizing the patterns reduces sex to a "game" -- a
    predetermined set of movements that one goes through by rote.

    This, in turn, reduces the speaker's desire.

    She says that she meant to "hold your bones deep to the root
    of one." This passage is full of sexual overtones (winking
    references to penile erection and deep penetration),
    reflecting the wild, uncontrolled passion she had felt.

    Unfortunately, her recognition of their behavioral "formulas"
    regarding sex has put her out of the mood. B=0.

    It's clever, but emotionally flat.

    The poem is also not in the public domain in the US or
    Canada. Ms. Livesay died in 1996, so that is not: "General
    Rule (Post-2022): Death of author + 70 years."

    David Dalton, please do not commit copyright infringement.

    Perhaps David is unaware of the recent changes in Canadian
    Copyright law.

    perhaps you are also:

    As far as I know I mostly up to date, as George Dsnce and I
    have discovered the changing laws in Canada here several
    times over the years.

    "Before December 30, 2022, the general copyright term in
    Canada was the life of the author plus 50 years (ending on
    December 31 of that 50th year). This standard applied to most
    literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works. Works
    already in the public domain as of December 31, 2021,
    remained free." (From George Dance's favorite source.)

    Ms. Livesay died in 1996. David Dalton should be able to do
    the math.

    [...]

    I'd mentioned in the past that my earliest extant poem dates
    from around the time I was 16.

    I'm not far behind you, then

    I did recently find some old comic strips I drew back around
    1969.

    You would have been 10/11 years old in 1969.

    Again, that's correct.

    I was drawing comix in 1969, not really writing poetry quite
    yet.

    I've drawn literally thousands of comic strips throughout my
    life.

    You should have left those

    I don't agree obviously.

    Just catching up on a couple dozen posts from you and your
    fellow trolls tonight, Harry.

    WTF

    Says Harry the troll.

    Those ragged "song books"

    Admission of stalking by NG noted.

    And here I thought that NancyGene was joking.

    Trolling.
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    Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:
    https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
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