• Re: New book coming out about John Dunne

    From WillDockery@noreply@pugleaf.net.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 11:45:22 2026
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    nancygene.andjay wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

    And since you finally got a pair of eyeglasses

    No, I don't have new glasses yet, just the reading glasses.

    "We corrected our error."

    That! Right there! Is why Will Donkey needs to get more than reading glasses.

    Sure, I need a pair of prescription eyeglasses, hopefully in 2026 I'll get to that when time permits.

    And, again, we all make mistakes from time to time.

    EfyA
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  • From nancygene.andjayme@nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 07:51:25 2026
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    WillDockery wrote:
    nancygene.andjay wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

    And since you finally got a pair of eyeglasses

    No, I don't have new glasses yet, just the reading glasses.



    "We corrected our error."


    That! Right there! Is why Will Donkey needs to get more than reading glasses.



    Sure, I need a pair of prescription eyeglasses, hopefully in 2026 I'll get to that when time permits.

    And, again, we all make mistakes from time to time.



    Will Donkey spends his money at the dentist, with a decorator, and on a landscaping company.


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 08:37:42 2026
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    NancyGene wrote:

    WillDockery wrote:
    nancygene.andjay wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:

    And since you finally got a pair of eyeglasses

    No, I don't have new glasses yet, just the reading glasses.



    "We corrected our error."


    That! Right there! Is why needs to get more than reading glasses.



    Sure, I need a pair of prescription eyeglasses, hopefully in 2026 I'll get to that when time permits.

    And, again, we all make mistakes from time to time.


    Will



    Your ongoing obsession with me is noted, NG.

    EfyA


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  • From nancygene.andjayme@nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 09:57:51 2026
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    NancyGene wrote:
    "Super-Infinite: The Transformations of John Donne" by Katherine Rundell (September 6, 2022)
    https://www.amazon.com/Super-Infinite-Transformations-Donne-Katherine-Rundell/dp/0374607400

    There is an informative article about the book at: https://www.theguardian..com/books/2022/apr/15/plague-poems-defiant-wit-and-penis-puns-why-john-donne-is-a-poet-for-our-times

    We found this passage to be worth thinking about:
    "Donne is often said to be a difficult poet. But if he is difficult, it is the difficulty of someone who wants you to read harder, to pay better attention. And when you have read and reread them, the poems open |ore4rCL they salute you. The pleasures of Donne are akin to the pleasures of cracking a safe: there is gold inside. And besides, why should it be easy? Very little that is worth having is easy. We are not, he told us, easy: we are both a miracle and a disaster; our lives deserve pity and wonder, careful loving attention, the full untrammeled exuberance of our imagination. When you have known vast horror, and still found glory, you do not compare loves to doves. You write: |ore4"Taste whole joys.|ore4

    We would like to unleash the "full untrammeled exuberance of our imagination," but not through the hardships that Dunne had to experience.



    Donkey wishes he could whistle.


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  • From nancygene.andjayme@nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 10:14:08 2026
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    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:

    NancyGene wrote:
    Donkey wishes he could whistle.



    If he directs compressed air into one ear hole I bet there would be a whistle.




    That could be, but we would bet he is really good at opening beer cans with that fang.


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  • From nancygene.andjayme@nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 10:55:55 2026
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    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:

    NancyGene wrote:

    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:

    NancyGene wrote:
    Donkey wishes he could whistle.



    If he directs compressed air into one ear hole I bet there would be a whistle.



    That could be, but we would bet he is really good at opening beer cans with that fang.


    I figured it was for beer bottle caps.



    Will Donkey is a human (sort of) Swiss Army knife!


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 12:08:29 2026
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    NancyGene wrote:

    We would like to unleash the "full untrammeled exuberance of our imagination," but not through the hardships that Dunne had to experience.



    Great to see obscure poets such as "John Dunne" get a moment in the spotlight.

    EfyA


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  • From mpsilvertone@mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 12:25:34 2026
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    NancyGene wrote:
    "Super-Infinite: The Transformations of John Donne" by Katherine Rundell (September 6, 2022)
    https://www.amazon.com/Super-Infinite-Transformations-Donne-Katherine-Rundell/dp/0374607400

    There is an informative article about the book at: https://www.theguardian..com/books/2022/apr/15/plague-poems-defiant-wit-and-penis-puns-why-john-donne-is-a-poet-for-our-times

    We found this passage to be worth thinking about:
    "Donne is often said to be a difficult poet. But if he is difficult, it is the difficulty of someone who wants you to read harder, to pay better attention. And when you have read and reread them, the poems open |ore4rCL they salute you. The pleasures of Donne are akin to the pleasures of cracking a safe: there is gold inside. And besides, why should it be easy? Very little that is worth having is easy. We are not, he told us, easy: we are both a miracle and a disaster; our lives deserve pity and wonder, careful loving attention, the full untrammeled exuberance of our imagination. When you have known vast horror, and still found glory, you do not compare loves to doves. You write: |ore4"Taste whole joys.|ore4

    We would like to unleash the "full untrammeled exuberance of our imagination," but not through the hardships that Dunne had to experience.



    Looks like the Donkey's down to four teeth in the most recent photo.

    He must be living off of Tooth Fairy change these days.


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  • From kfries@kfries@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (CujoDeSockpuppet) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 10:45:48 2026
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    NancyGene wrote:

    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:

    NancyGene wrote:
    Donkey wishes he could whistle.



    If he directs compressed air into one ear hole I bet there would be a whistle.



    That could be, but we would bet he is really good at opening beer cans with that fang.



    I figured it was for beer bottle caps.


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  • From kfries@kfries@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (CujoDeSockpuppet) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 10:01:28 2026
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    NancyGene wrote:
    Donkey wishes he could whistle.




    If he directs compressed air into one ear hole I bet there would be a whistle.


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  • From nancygene.andjayme@nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 15:28:25 2026
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    HarryLime wrote:
    Looks like the Donkey's down to four teeth in the most recent photo.

    He must be living off of Tooth Fairy change these days.



    That swiveling front tooth is like a saloon door. Donkey's friends and family ate the Tooth Fairy, but Jordy's Uncle has applied for the job.


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  • From mpsilvertone@mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 16:04:48 2026
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    NancyGene wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:
    Looks like the Donkey's down to four teeth in the most recent photo.

    He must be living off of Tooth Fairy change these days.


    That swiveling front tooth is like a saloon door. Donkey's friends and family ate the Tooth Fairy, but Jordy's Uncle has applied for the job.




    He looks like a fat rat.


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 16:38:41 2026
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    NancyGene wrote:
    "Super-Infinite: The Transformations of John Donne" by Katherine Rundell (September 6, 2022)
    https://www.amazon.com/Super-Infinite-Transformations-Donne-Katherine-Rundell/dp/0374607400

    There is an informative article about the book at: https://www.theguardian..com/books/2022/apr/15/plague-poems-defiant-wit-and-penis-puns-why-john-donne-is-a-poet-for-our-times

    We found this passage to be worth thinking about:
    "Donne is often said to be a difficult poet. But if he is difficult, it is the difficulty of someone who wants you to read harder, to pay better attention. And when you have read and reread them, the poems open |ore4rCL they salute you. The pleasures of Donne are akin to the pleasures of cracking a safe: there is gold inside. And besides, why should it be easy? Very little that is worth having is easy. We are not, he told us, easy: we are both a miracle and a disaster; our lives deserve pity and wonder, careful loving attention, the full untrammeled exuberance of our imagination. When you have known vast horror, and still found glory, you do not compare loves to doves. You write: |ore4"Taste whole joys.|ore4

    We would like to unleash the "full untrammeled exuberance of our imagination," but not through the hardships that Dunne had to experience.



    So, I'm old and ugly now, I don't deny it. But at least I have the courage to get out there and bring my art, poetry and music to the public. Unlike most of the posters here.

    As I've stated before, this is a poetry newsgroup, not a beauty pageant.

    --
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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 16:55:48 2026
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    HarryLime wrote:



    [/quote]

    He looks like a fat rat.[/quote]

    I'm old and ugly, I'll grant you, but that photograph is obviously distorted and photoshopped.

    See JLA attachment below for an actual photograph of me from last month, without filter or photoshop tampering.

    HTH and HAND.


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  • From mpsilvertone@mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 17:29:44 2026
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    Will-Dockery wrote:
    DONKEY: So, I'm old and ugly now, I don't deny it. But at least I have the courage to get out there and bring my art, poetry and music to the public. Unlike most of the posters here.

    MMP: No, you're morbidly obese and probably have a dozen serious medical conditions as a result.

    Try getting up the courage to diet, exercise, and have a physical examination by a doctor.

    DONKEY: As I've stated before, this is a poetry newsgroup, not a beauty pageant.




    MMP: It's not like your poetry's any better than your looks.


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 17:39:22 2026
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    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:
    So, I'm old and ugly now, I don't deny it. But at least I have the courage to get out there and bring my art, poetry and music to the public. Unlike most of the posters here.



    MMP: It's not like your poetry's any better than your looks.



    You forgot to add "in my opinion."

    EfyA

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  • From Cujo DeSockpuppet@cujo@petitmorte.net to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 23:50:38 2026
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    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) wrote in news:IMGdnYEsSMx96_j0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com:

    Will-Dockery wrote:
    DONKEY: So, I'm old and ugly now, I don't deny it. But at least I
    have the courage to get out there and bring my art, poetry and music
    to the public. Unlike most of the posters here.

    MMP: No, you're morbidly obese and probably have a dozen serious
    medical conditions as a result.

    Try getting up the courage to diet, exercise, and have a physical
    examination by a doctor.

    DONKEY: As I've stated before, this is a poetry newsgroup, not a
    beauty pageant.




    MMP: It's not like your poetry's any better than your looks.

    It has to be an improvement on his caterwauling.
    --
    "The fact that it doesn't apply to the poem is of little consequence to
    you, because your poems don't have a literary basis, because you're functionally illiterate and haven't got a clue as to what a poem is." -
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    Cujo DeSockpuppet <cujo@petitmorte.net> posted:

    It has to be an improvement on

    On your attempts that you're afraid to post here, Kevin?

    We know.

    EfyA
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  • From mpsilvertone@mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Jan 12 21:34:34 2026
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    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:
    So, I'm old and ugly now, I don't deny it. But at least I have the courage to get out there and bring my art, poetry and music to the public. Unlike most of the posters here.



    MMP: It's not like your poetry's any better than your looks.


    DONKEY: You forgot to add "in my opinion."





    MMP: Shall I go with the general consensus, and proclaim it "unspeakable shit"?


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  • From Cujo DeSockpuppet@cujo@petitmorte.net to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Jan 13 02:47:25 2026
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    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) wrote in news:aNydnZV82rWRLPj0nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    HarryLime wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:
    So, I'm old and ugly now, I don't deny it. But at least I have the
    courage to get out there and bring my art, poetry and music to the
    public. Unlike most of the posters here.



    MMP: It's not like your poetry's any better than your looks.


    DONKEY: You forgot to add "in my opinion."





    MMP: Shall I go with the general consensus, and proclaim it
    "unspeakable shit"?

    I'm going with "unspeakable shit from a talentless douchebag".
    --
    "The fact that it doesn't apply to the poem is of little consequence to
    you, because your poems don't have a literary basis, because you're functionally illiterate and haven't got a clue as to what a poem is." -
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  • From Will Dockery@user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Jan 13 05:37:30 2026
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    mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    You forgot to add "in my opinion."

    Shall I go with the general consensus

    You're a well known second hander so that's no surprise, Harry.

    EfyA
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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Jan 13 00:46:56 2026
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    NancyGene wrote:

    We would like to unleash the "full untrammeled exuberance of our imagination," but not through the hardships that Dunne had to experience.



    Again, great to see obscure poets such as "John Dunne" get a moment in the spotlight.

    EfyA


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  • From nancygene.andjayme@nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Jan 13 10:24:34 2026
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    NancyGene wrote:
    "Super-Infinite: The Transformations of John Donne" by Katherine Rundell (September 6, 2022)
    https://www.amazon.com/Super-Infinite-Transformations-Donne-Katherine-Rundell/dp/0374607400

    There is an informative article about the book at: https://www.theguardian..com/books/2022/apr/15/plague-poems-defiant-wit-and-penis-puns-why-john-donne-is-a-poet-for-our-times

    We found this passage to be worth thinking about:
    "Donne is often said to be a difficult poet. But if he is difficult, it is the difficulty of someone who wants you to read harder, to pay better attention. And when you have read and reread them, the poems open |ore4rCL they salute you. The pleasures of Donne are akin to the pleasures of cracking a safe: there is gold inside. And besides, why should it be easy? Very little that is worth having is easy. We are not, he told us, easy: we are both a miracle and a disaster; our lives deserve pity and wonder, careful loving attention, the full untrammeled exuberance of our imagination. When you have known vast horror, and still found glory, you do not compare loves to doves. You write: |ore4"Taste whole joys.|ore4

    We would like to unleash the "full untrammeled exuberance of our imagination," but not through the hardships that Dunne had to experience.



    Tat tat tat tat tat, Douchebag!


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  • From nancygene.andjayme@nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Jan 13 10:29:03 2026
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    NancyGene wrote:
    Tat tat tat tat tat, Douchebag!



    Tit tit tit tit tit, Douchebag!


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