Will Dockery wrote:
You've forgotten that the poem is based on a dream, anyhow, apparently.
Poetry and dreams are not "real life."
Dream or not, your poem depicts sexual molestation of a minor
Will Dockery wrote:
mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
Will Dockery wrote:
You've forgotten that the poem is based on a dream, anyhow, apparently.
Poetry and dreams are not "real life."
Dream or not, your poem depicts sexual molestation of a minor
Again, absolutely untrue.
Will Dockery wrote:
mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
Will Dockery wrote:
You've forgotten that the poem is based on a dream, anyhow,
apparently.
Poetry and dreams are not "real life."
Dream or not, your poem depicts sexual molestation of a minor
Again, absolutely untrue.
Bullshit.
She's described as "a little freckled girl." This conjures up the
image of a pre-pubescent child.
It doesn't matter how old the girl was in real life. No age is
mentioned in your poem. Nor should readers be expected to know what
years you attended high school.
Even if the "girl" was an adult at the time, your poem sexualizes her childlike looks.
And, again, even if the "girl" was legal age, she was acting "spacey" (noticeably under the influence of drugs at the time), so she would
*not* have been considered "consenting" under the law.
IOW: The sexual act (graphically) depicted in the poem was
"non-consensual" and therefore a form of rape.
Worst of all is the fact neither the speaker/protagonist of the poem,
nor its author, see anything wrong with his behavior.
According to Will Donkey, it's perfectly okay to sexually objectify
women ("I put my finger to her hole"), perfectly okay to grope them in public, perfectly natural to molest a young woman who is under the
influence of illicit substances, and perfectly reasonable to look at
this act of sexual molestation as a "romantic interlude."
HarryLime wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
Will Dockery wrote:
You've forgotten that the poem is based on a dream, anyhow, apparently.
Poetry and dreams are not "real life."
Dream or not, your poem depicts sexual molestation of a minor
Again, absolutely untrue.
Bullsh*t.
Will-Dockery wrote:
Original text restored, troll content removed,;
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"I Met A Girl" poem-song by Will Dockery (vocals), Jim Pontius (guitar), Tito Wals (bass). Recorded 1982 in Atlanta.
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Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:
https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
Will-Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
Will Dockery wrote:
You've forgotten that the poem is based on a dream, anyhow, apparently. >>>>
Poetry and dreams are not "real life."
Dream or not, your poem depicts sexual molestation of a minor
Again, absolutely untrue.
Bullsh*t.
I don't expect you to agree.
EfyA
HarryLime wrote:
Will-Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
Will Dockery wrote:
You've forgotten that the poem is based on a dream, anyhow, apparently. >>>>>
Poetry and dreams are not "real life."
Dream or not, your poem depicts sexual molestation of a minor
Again, absolutely untrue.
Bullsh*t.
I don't expect you to agree.
You shouldn't expect anyone to agree.
Will-Dockery wrote:
Original text restored, troll content removed,;
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSepWRUDxAl/?taken-by=willdockery007
"I Met A Girl" poem-song by Will Dockery (vocals), Jim Pontius (guitar), Tito Wals (bass). Recorded 1982 in Atlanta.
--
Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:
https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
Will Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
Will Dockery wrote:
You've forgotten that the poem is based on a dream, anyhow, apparently.
Poetry and dreams are not "real life."
Dream or not, your poem depicts sexual molestation of a minor
Again, absolutely untrue.
Bullsh*t.
I don't expect you to agree.
You shouldn't expect anyone to agree.
And that really ought to be telling you something.
[quote="Will Dockery"]mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid
(HarryLime) posted:
Will Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
Will Dockery wrote:
You've forgotten that the poem is based on a dream, anyhow,
apparently.
Poetry and dreams are not "real life."
Here ^^^
Dream or not, your poem depicts sexual molestation of a minor
DONKEY: The person in the poem is around 24 years old, far from the
age you continue to misrepresent her as being.
Over 40 years later she'll now be in her 60s.
MMP: You don't mention her age in the poem, you jackass.
And again, even if she was in her 60s in the poem, publicly groping a
woman (even a woman who wasn't acting spacey) is a form of sexual
assault.
Why aren't you capable of grasping (npi) that point?
Again, absolutely untrue.
Bullsh*t.
DONKEY: See above, which makes *your* statement b.s. Harry.
MMP: You "met a girl" and almost immediately "put [your] finger to her
hole."
Your words speak for themselves.
I don't expect you to agree.
You shouldn't expect anyone to agree.
DONKEY: Moh Lou and trolls of your ilk, of course.
MMP: Who is "Moh Lou," Drunky?
And that really ought to be telling you something.
DONKEY: It tells me you're trolling me as usual, basically, Harry.
And so it goes.
MMP: I'm telling you that your poem is romanticizing sexual assault.
If you had any brains, you'd remove all copies from the internet.
Posterity won't look kindly on it.
Will Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
Will Dockery wrote:
You've forgotten that the poem is based on a dream, anyhow, apparently.
Poetry and dreams are not "real life."
Dream or not, your poem
Dockery: The person in the poem is around 24 years old, far from the age you continue to misrepresent her as being.
Over 40 years later she'll now be in her 60s.
MMP: You don't mention her age in the poem
And again, even if she was in her 60s in the poem, publicly groping a womam
MMP: You "met a girl" and almost immediately
"put [your] finger to her hole."
And so it goes.
MMP: I'm telling you that your poem
Will Dockery wrote:
mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
Will Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:
Will Dockery wrote:
DONKEY: You've forgotten that the poem is based on a dream, anyhow, apparently.
DONKEY: Something you continue to do, in an obvious attempt to misrepresent the meaning of the poem, Harry.
MMP: Obviously the poem isn't based on a "real life" event. If it were, you'd be in prison.
DONKEY: Poetry and dreams are not "real life."
MMP: Obviously the poem isn't based on a "real life" event. If it were, you'd be in prison.
Dream or not, your poem
DONKEY: It was definitely a dream.
MMP: Obviously the poem isn't based on a "real life" event. If it were, you'd be in prison.
And, again, dream or not, the incident depicted (sexual assault) is a criminal offense.
DONKEY: The poem is d based on a dream, which is stated in the poem.
MMP: Obviously the poem isn't based on a "real life" event. If it were, you'd be in prison.
And, again, dream or not, the incident depicted (sexual assault) is a criminal offense.
DONKEY: The person in the poem is around 24 years old, far from the age you continue to misrepresent her as being.
Over 40 years later she'll now be in her 60s.
MMP: You don't mention her age in the poem
DONKEY: Her age is easy to understand from reading the poem.
MMP: You're using "understand" incorrectly.
You mean that her age is easy to *figure out.*
DONKEY: The timeline was clearly laid about as was the exact day the poem was written, in early May 1982
Approximately 6-7 years after high school.
I was 24 in 1982 and since we attended high school together she was approximately my age at the time.
Which would now put her in her 60s.
MMP: EARTH TO DONKEY: Sexually assaulting a 40-year-old woman is a crime. Sexually assaulting a 60-year-old woman is a crime. Sexually assaulting a 60-year-old woman who's acting "spacey" as if she were on drugs is a crime.
What are you not getting?
MMP: And again, even if she was in her 60s in the poem, publicly groping a woman
DONKEY: You're misrepresenting the events in the poem.
Again, absolutely untrue.
See above, which makes *your* statement b.s. Harry.
MMP: All I see above is your repeated claim that the "little freckled girl" would be in her 60s today.
In your poem, she is presented as a "little freckled girl" from your high school days. Even if she would have been 24 at the time of your dream, I doubt that your dream "aged" her. You hadn't seen her since gradua... since you dropped out, so she would have appeared in your dream just as she had when she was in high school.
Your poem also stresses that she was a "little freckled girl." It is obviously fetishizing here youthful, little girlish appearance. Sexualizing the "little girl" image on the pretext that the girl only looks like she's 10 years old.
Further, the girl is acting "spacey" (stoned out of her mind) in the dream meeting.
You take advantage of her incapacitated state to shove your fat, sweaty hand down her pants and "put [your] finger to her hole." That you do this on the pretext of proving your masculinity is both homophobic and revolting.
Finally, even if the "girl" would have been 24 in real life at the time of your dream, and even if she were in her 60s (as she would be today), shoving your hand down her pants is still sexual assault.
MMP: You "met a girl" and almost immediately
DONKEY: It didn't happen that quickly.
The poem states that we had a conversation after seeing each other again, after 7-8 years after high school.
MMP: Are you saying that it's okay to shove your hand down a woman's pants after having an obligatory conversation with her?
MMP: "put [your] finger to her hole."
DONKEY: No, that didn't happen immediately, and it was simply a romantic moment that included some "foreplay."
Your attempt to make it something sinister is , again, misrepresentation.
It tells me you're trolling me as usual, basically, Harry.
MMP: EARTH TO DONKEY: You don't shove your hand down a woman's pants at a party.
You don't shove your hand down a woman's pants even if you recognized each other from school 7-8 years before.
You don't shove your hand down a woman's pants if she's obviously under the influence of drugs.
Shoving your hand down a woman's pants after an obligatory conversation is not foreplay
Shoving your hand down a woman's pants after an obligatory conversation is not a "romantic moment."
Shoving your hand down the pants of a woman you just met is SEXUAL ASSAULT.
DONKEY: And so it goes.
MMP: I'm telling you that your poem
'DONKEY: I'm telling you that you're misrepresentating the meaning of the poem.
Will-Dockery wrote:
Original text restored, troll content removed,;
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSepWRUDxAl/?taken-by=willdockery007
"I Met A Girl" poem-song by Will Dockery (vocals), Jim Pontius (guitar), Tito Wals (bass). Recorded 1982 in Atlanta.
--
Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:
https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
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