George J. Dance wrote:
Whenever HarryLiar deflects to a new subject in one thread, I'll be
opening another.
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Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka HarryLime wrote:
MMP: You're such a whiny, lying little shitbird, Dunce.You were banned from "AYoS" because you attacked the magazine, not
because of anything you said about me.
You falsely claimed that "AYoS" only published people that the
editors were friends with -- which was blatantly untrue -- especially
since your poetry was still in our current print issue at that time.
GJD: As usual, HarryLiar, you do *not* give a quote to back that up.
And, as usual, you're lying and misrepresenting. I pointed out that
you'd set up /AYoS/ as a vehicle for Team Monkey (you, NastyGoon,
and drivel-boy [Jim]) and your assorted allied -- including, now,
Mr. Fries -- so you could posture as "published poets." You
called that a "personal attack" on you and "banned" me; but hung on
to my poetry.
MMP: "AYoS" was started as a continuation of "The Sunday Sampler," which >> was created to showcase the poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC'smembers who contributed; and we continue that practice today.
GJD: IOW, /AYoS/ was set up as a copy of /April/ magazine. But it never published "each and every one of AAPC's members" as you began banning
people right from the beginning. And it sure doesn't do that now, when
only 3 of you contribute anything (and nothing of value) to AAPC.
MMP: And your recent false claims that "AYoS" steals poetry ensure thatyou're going to stay banned from that publication for the remainder
of your miserable little life.
GJD: So you "banned" me after I asked you to remove my poems: Whoop-d0-doo! Yet you're still hanging on to them, and advertising them. I'll probably spend the rest of my "miserable little life" trying to get them back
from you.
MMP: Similarly, the Donkey and his Stink were not banned for anything they >> said about me, but because they continually interrupted "The SundaySampler" whenever Jim would "X" one of their poems.
GJD: Now, that's a good point: even before you and drivel-boy were banning poets, you were censoring out their poems in the Sampler. That's how
you lost, notjust Will and Zod, but Ilya and Horatio as well. And of
you were the first to censor those; then you convinced drivel-boy to
do it, and that was the end of the Sampler as a "showcase [for] the
poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's members". Don't blame others
for the ruin of something you ruined yourself.
MMP: In short, when you make false accusations of unfair practices andliterary theft, you're going to be banned from participating in it.
GJD: We've already covered "unfair practices" - as for "literary theft" -
you used to take poetry from the Sampler, without asking, and you
admit you do the same thing with poems posted to your facebook
group. You're a thief, thief.
MMP: I doubt that *any* publication would accept submissions from someone >> who made such charges against them. And disrupting a magazine to thepoint that its editor closes it down, would get you banned from just
about any magazine as well.
GJD: If any publisher took poems of mine without asking, lied about how
long he intended to keep them in publication, or refused to take
them out of his magazine when challenged on the above points - and
you're guilty of all three - I wouldn't hesitate to speak up about
his "practices" - nor would I worry about it refusing to pring any
more poems that I wouldn't be submitting.
MMP: I don't hold personal grudges over name-calling. And even if I did, >> I wouldn't allow my personal grudges to carry over into mypublication.
GJD: Perhaps not; but you would allow your trolling (the reason you get called names back) to carry over into your "publication" - that's
the only reason for your "publication" in the first place.
MMP: I would have considered allowing him to participate in"AYoS" had several of the other contributors not objected (although
his recent attempts to label "AYoS" as a vanity press have
permanently closed the door on him.
GJD: You claim AYoS is not a vanity anthology, by industry jargon,
because it doesn't charge upfront fees. Neither for example, does
the /American Library of Poetry/ - that group accepts anything, for free,
so they can sell copies to their poets. https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1m4xt5a/us_the_america_library_of_poetry_publication_scam/
That's exactly what /AYoS/ does as well; the only difference is that
they do it for the money, while you do it for the sake of pretending
to be a "publisher" - like the poets you publish, you're motivated
by your own vanity.
George J. Dance wrote:
Whenever HarryLiar deflects to a new subject in one thread, I'll be
opening another.
MMP: IOW, Georgy Porgy has found yet another means of running away.
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Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka HarryLime wrote:
MMP: You're such a whiny, lying little shitbird, Dunce.You were banned from "AYoS" because you attacked the magazine, not
because of anything you said about me.
You falsely claimed that "AYoS" only published people that the
editors were friends with -- which was blatantly untrue -- especially
since your poetry was still in our current print issue at that time.
GJD: As usual, HarryLiar, you do *not* give a quote to back that up.
And, as usual, you're lying and misrepresenting. I pointed out that
you'd set up /AYoS/ as a vehicle for Team Monkey (you, NastyGoon,
and drivel-boy [Jim]) and your assorted allied -- including, now,
Mr. Fries -- so you could posture as "published poets." You
called that a "personal attack" on you and "banned" me; but hung on
to my poetry.
MMP: To take but one example:
Michael Pendragon explains his editorial philosophy
465 views Nov 29, 2022, 5:30:59rC>PM
Michael Pendragon explains his editorial philosophy
(or, how Jim got into AYoS)
"You divide everyone into two categories: potential allies and potential adversaries. You slurp the writings of your potential allies and attack
those of your potential adversaries."
"When Jim is seen as a potential ally, you request his poetry. When he
is seen as an adversary, you assign a childish name to him and claim he
can't write."
[END QUOTE]
Not that it matters, Dunce. Your recent claims that I stole your poetry are ample reason for banning you for life.
MMP: "AYoS" was started as a continuation of "The Sunday Sampler," which >> was created to showcase the poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC'smembers who contributed; and we continue that practice today.
GJD: IOW, /AYoS/ was set up as a copy of /April/ magazine.
MMP: I never read your "April" magazine, you full of yourself p.o.s.
AYoS was a continuation of The Sunday Sampler. That is why Jim is listed on our masthead as "Founding Editor."
If anything, your "April" thing was most likely a copy of The Sunday Sampler -- which you'd unsuccessfully attempted to take over after your Donkey and his Stink drove Jim away from AAPC.
DUNCE: But it never
published "each and every one of AAPC's members" as you began banning
people right from the beginning. And it sure doesn't do that now, when
only 3 of you contribute anything (and nothing of value) to AAPC.
MMP: Earth to Dunce: AYoS publishes poets from The Official AAPC Facebook Poetry Group. It has nothing to do with this dead usenet group.
AAPC publishes the best poetry from the AAPC *FACEBOOK* contributors.
We all know that you're well aware of this fact, so why do you insist on playing the Dunce?
MMP: And your recent false claims that "AYoS" steals poetry ensure thatyou're going to stay banned from that publication for the remainder
of your miserable little life.
GJD: So you "banned" me after I asked you to remove my poems: Whoop-d0-doo! Yet you're still hanging on to them, and advertising them. I'll probably spend the rest of my "miserable little life" trying to get them back
from you.
MMP: Another Dunce lie.
I banned you when you attacked my editorial policy.
I banned you for life (with no hope of reprieve) when you accused me of stealing your crap poetry.
MMP: Similarly, the Donkey and his Stink were not banned for anything they >> said about me, but because they continually interrupted "The SundaySampler" whenever Jim would "X" one of their poems.
GJD: Now, that's a good point: even before you and drivel-boy were banning poets, you were censoring out their poems in the Sampler. That's how
you lost, notjust Will and Zod, but Ilya and Horatio as well.
MMP: If you've ever submitted poetry ot any publication, you know that they have guidelines. Submissions that do not adhere to the guidelines are automatically rejected.
The Sampler guidelines as well. Submissions that were not in compliance with the guidelines were rejected.
That's not censorship, whiny Dunce. That's just standard procedure.
As to Ilya and Horatio, I don't recall either poet ever having submitted poetry to the Sampler. Ilya's poetry was usually laughably bad, so that would have been no big loss. Horatio would have been a welcome contributor, and IMHO, he was experienced enough to accept the fact that publications have guidelines that contributors must follow.
As to your Donkey and his Stink, their lack of familiarity with actual publications is obvious. They chose to treat The Sampler as if it were simply another usenet thread, and quickly found out that such was not the case.
DUNCE: you were the first to censor those; then you convinced drivel-boy to do it, and that was the end of the Sampler as a "showcase [for] the
poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's members". Don't blame others
for the ruin of something you ruined yourself.
MMP: How could I have been the first to censor them, when Jim was publishing the magazine? You're really quite the Dunce today, Dunce.
MMP: In short, when you make false accusations of unfair practices andliterary theft, you're going to be banned from participating in it.
GJD: We've already covered "unfair practices" - as for "literary theft" -
you used to take poetry from the Sampler, without asking, and you
admit you do the same thing with poems posted to your facebook
group. You're a thief, thief.
MMP: The FaceBook Group has Guidelines. Contributors are expected to read the Guidelines before applying for acceptance into the Group. I operate on the assumption that they have read them prior to posting.
Our online magazine can be edited *after* publication. And, has been, several times, when a typo had been pointed out. Should any contributor wish to have their poetry removed, it can easily be done.
And, as I've pointed out, no one has yet to complain. Here are some of the responses our recent issues have received from contributors:
Louise Charlton Webster:
Am so enjoying the eclectic nature of SeptemberrCOs issue of A Year of Sundays. ItrCOs a gift to have the opportunity to read so many different authors . Thank you all for the work that went into this publication and thank you for including my poems inside such a treasure.
Joseph Danoski:
Stupendous Autumn issue! The very heart of September, and soul of October.
MMP: I doubt that *any* publication would accept submissions from someone >> who made such charges against them. And disrupting a magazine to thepoint that its editor closes it down, would get you banned from just
about any magazine as well.
GJD: If any publisher took poems of mine without asking, lied about how
long he intended to keep them in publication, or refused to take
them out of his magazine when challenged on the above points - and
you're guilty of all three - I wouldn't hesitate to speak up about
his "practices" - nor would I worry about it refusing to pring any
more poems that I wouldn't be submitting.
MMP: We've been over this at least a dozen times, Dunce. I sent you page proofs prior publication. You had the options of approving them, correcting them, or denying us the right to publish them. You chose to publish them.
As to your claim that I'd lied about the length of publication: as explained earlier, several of the contributors expressed their desire that the anthology remain in publication indefinitely. No one (your miserable self included) expressed any wish to the contrary. I compromised by agreeing to keep the anthology in print for three years.
The issues with your poems in them have been out of print for a while now, and you've no call to keep whining about it.
MMP: I don't hold personal grudges over name-calling. And even if I did, >> I wouldn't allow my personal grudges to carry over into mypublication.
GJD: Perhaps not; but you would allow your trolling (the reason you get called names back) to carry over into your "publication" - that's
the only reason for your "publication" in the first place.
MMP: WTF are you yammering on about now, lying Dunce?
Very few of my contributors know who you and your Donkey are. And neither of you are mentioned in any of the poems that we publish.
The reason for my *publication* was to create a community of small press poets who would read and comment on one another's work. The publication is an enticement to poets who are looking to gain readers, publication credits, or simply to have something they've written in a printed volume.
It is also a "thank you" from NancyGene and I for they're having participated in our literary community.
MMP: I would have considered allowing him to participate in"AYoS" had several of the other contributors not objected (although
his recent attempts to label "AYoS" as a vanity press have
permanently closed the door on him.
GJD: You claim AYoS is not a vanity anthology, by industry jargon,
because it doesn't charge upfront fees. Neither for example, does
the /American Library of Poetry/ - that group accepts anything, for free,
so they can sell copies to their poets. https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1m4xt5a/us_the_america_library_of_poetry_publication_scam/
That's exactly what /AYoS/ does as well; the only difference is that
they do it for the money, while you do it for the sake of pretending
to be a "publisher" - like the poets you publish, you're motivated
by your own vanity.
George J. Dance wrote:
Whenever HarryLiar deflects to a new subject in one thread, I'll be
opening another.
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Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka HarryLime wrote:
MMP: You're such a whiny, lying little shitbird, Dunce.You were banned from "AYoS" because you attacked the magazine, not
because of anything you said about me.
You falsely claimed that "AYoS" only published people that the
editors were friends with -- which was blatantly untrue -- especially
since your poetry was still in our current print issue at that time.
GJD: As usual, HarryLiar, you do *not* give a quote to back that up.
And, as usual, you're lying and misrepresenting. I pointed out that
you'd set up /AYoS/ as a vehicle for Team Monkey (you, NastyGoon,
and drivel-boy [Jim]) and your assorted allied -- including, now,
Mr. Fries -- so you could posture as "published poets." You
called that a "personal attack" on you and "banned" me; but hung on
to my poetry.
MMP: "AYoS" was started as a continuation of "The Sunday Sampler," which >> was created to showcase the poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC'smembers who contributed; and we continue that practice today.
GJD: IOW, /AYoS/ was set up as a copy of /April/ magazine. But it never published "each and every one of AAPC's members" as you began banning
people right from the beginning. And it sure doesn't do that now, when
only 3 of you contribute anything (and nothing of value) to AAPC.
MMP: And your recent false claims that "AYoS" steals poetry ensure thatyou're going to stay banned from that publication for the remainder
of your miserable little life.
GJD: So you "banned" me after I asked you to remove my poems: Whoop-d0-doo! Yet you're still hanging on to them, and advertising them. I'll probably spend the rest of my "miserable little life" trying to get them back
from you.
MMP: Similarly, the Donkey and his Stink were not banned for anything they >> said about me, but because they continually interrupted "The SundaySampler" whenever Jim would "X" one of their poems.
GJD: Now, that's a good point: even before you and drivel-boy were banning poets, you were censoring out their poems in the Sampler. That's how
you lost, notjust Will and Zod, but Ilya and Horatio as well. And of
you were the first to censor those; then you convinced drivel-boy to
do it, and that was the end of the Sampler as a "showcase [for] the
poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's members". Don't blame others
for the ruin of something you ruined yourself.
MMP: In short, when you make false accusations of unfair practices andliterary theft, you're going to be banned from participating in it.
GJD: We've already covered "unfair practices" - as for "literary theft" -
you used to take poetry from the Sampler, without asking, and you
admit you do the same thing with poems posted to your facebook
group. You're a thief, thief.
MMP: I doubt that *any* publication would accept submissions from someone >> who made such charges against them. And disrupting a magazine to thepoint that its editor closes it down, would get you banned from just
about any magazine as well.
GJD: If any publisher took poems of mine without asking, lied about how
long he intended to keep them in publication, or refused to take
them out of his magazine when challenged on the above points - and
you're guilty of all three - I wouldn't hesitate to speak up about
his "practices" - nor would I worry about it refusing to pring any
more poems that I wouldn't be submitting.
MMP: I don't hold personal grudges over name-calling. And even if I did, >> I wouldn't allow my personal grudges to carry over into mypublication.
GJD: Perhaps not; but you would allow your trolling (the reason you get called names back) to carry over into your "publication" - that's
the only reason for your "publication" in the first place.
MMP: I would have considered allowing him to participate in"AYoS" had several of the other contributors not objected (although
his recent attempts to label "AYoS" as a vanity press have
permanently closed the door on him.
GJD: You claim AYoS is not a vanity anthology, by industry jargon,
because it doesn't charge upfront fees. Neither for example, does
the /American Library of Poetry/ - that group accepts anything, for free,
so they can sell copies to their poets. https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1m4xt5a/us_the_america_library_of_poetry_publication_scam/
That's exactly what /AYoS/ does as well; the only difference is that
they do it for the money, while you do it for the sake of pretending
to be a "publisher" - like the poets you publish, you're motivated
by your own vanity.
Will-Dockery wrote:
George J. Dance wrote:
Whenever HarryLiar deflects to a new subject in one thread, I'll be
opening another.
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Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka HarryLime wrote:
MMP: You're such a whiny, lying little shitbird, Dunce.You were banned from "AYoS" because you attacked the magazine, not
because of anything you said about me.
You falsely claimed that "AYoS" only published people that the
editors were friends with -- which was blatantly untrue -- especially
since your poetry was still in our current print issue at that time.
GJD: As usual, HarryLiar, you do *not* give a quote to back that up.
And, as usual, you're lying and misrepresenting. I pointed out that
you'd set up /AYoS/ as a vehicle for Team Monkey (you, NastyGoon,
and drivel-boy [Jim]) and your assorted allied -- including, now,
Mr. Fries -- so you could posture as "published poets." You
called that a "personal attack" on you and "banned" me; but hung on
to my poetry.
MMP: "AYoS" was started as a continuation of "The Sunday Sampler," which >>> was created to showcase the poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC'smembers who contributed; and we continue that practice today.
GJD: IOW, /AYoS/ was set up as a copy of /April/ magazine. But it never
published "each and every one of AAPC's members" as you began banning
people right from the beginning. And it sure doesn't do that now, when
only 3 of you contribute anything (and nothing of value) to AAPC.
MMP: And your recent false claims that "AYoS" steals poetry ensure that >>> you're going to stay banned from that publication for the remainderof your miserable little life.
GJD: So you "banned" me after I asked you to remove my poems: Whoop-d0-doo! >> Yet you're still hanging on to them, and advertising them. I'll probably
spend the rest of my "miserable little life" trying to get them back
from you.
MMP: Similarly, the Donkey and his Stink were not banned for anything theysaid about me, but because they continually interrupted "The Sunday
Sampler" whenever Jim would "X" one of their poems.
GJD: Now, that's a good point: even before you and drivel-boy were banning >> poets, you were censoring out their poems in the Sampler. That's how
you lost, notjust Will and Zod, but Ilya and Horatio as well. And of
you were the first to censor those; then you convinced drivel-boy to
do it, and that was the end of the Sampler as a "showcase [for] the
poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's members". Don't blame others
for the ruin of something you ruined yourself.
MMP: In short, when you make false accusations of unfair practices and >>> literary theft, you're going to be banned from participating in it.
GJD: We've already covered "unfair practices" - as for "literary theft" -
you used to take poetry from the Sampler, without asking, and you
admit you do the same thing with poems posted to your facebook
group. You're a thief, thief.
MMP: I doubt that *any* publication would accept submissions from someone >>> who made such charges against them. And disrupting a magazine to thepoint that its editor closes it down, would get you banned from just
about any magazine as well.
GJD: If any publisher took poems of mine without asking, lied about how
long he intended to keep them in publication, or refused to take
them out of his magazine when challenged on the above points - and
you're guilty of all three - I wouldn't hesitate to speak up about
his "practices" - nor would I worry about it refusing to pring any
more poems that I wouldn't be submitting.
MMP: I don't hold personal grudges over name-calling. And even if I did, >>> I wouldn't allow my personal grudges to carry over into mypublication.
GJD: Perhaps not; but you would allow your trolling (the reason you get
called names back) to carry over into your "publication" - that's
the only reason for your "publication" in the first place.
MMP: I would have considered allowing him to participate in"AYoS" had several of the other contributors not objected (although
his recent attempts to label "AYoS" as a vanity press have
permanently closed the door on him.
GJD: You claim AYoS is not a vanity anthology, by industry jargon,
because it doesn't charge upfront fees. Neither for example, does
the /American Library of Poetry/ - that group accepts anything, for free, >> so they can sell copies to their poets.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1m4xt5a/us_the_america_library_of_poetry_publication_scam/
That's exactly what /AYoS/ does as well; the only difference is that
they do it for the money, while you do it for the sake of pretending
to be a "publisher" - like the poets you publish, you're motivated
by your own vanity.
Horatio and Ilya are both good poets, too bad they were both driven away.
And so it goes.
Will-Dockery wrote:
George J. Dance wrote:
Whenever HarryLiar deflects to a new subject in one thread, I'll be
opening another.
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Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka HarryLime wrote:
MMP: You're such a whiny, lying little shitbird, Dunce.You were banned from "AYoS" because you attacked the magazine, not
because of anything you said about me.
You falsely claimed that "AYoS" only published people that the
editors were friends with -- which was blatantly untrue --
especially since your poetry was still in our current print issue
at that time.
GJD: As usual, HarryLiar, you do *not* give a quote to back that up.
And, as usual, you're lying and misrepresenting. I pointed out that
you'd set up /AYoS/ as a vehicle for Team Monkey (you, NastyGoon,
and drivel-boy [Jim]) and your assorted allied -- including, now,
Mr. Fries -- so you could posture as "published poets." You
called that a "personal attack" on you and "banned" me; but hung on
to my poetry.
MMP: "AYoS" was started as a continuation of "The Sundaywas created to showcase the poetry of *each and every one* of
Sampler," which
AAPC's members who contributed; and we continue that practice
today.
GJD: IOW, /AYoS/ was set up as a copy of /April/ magazine. But it
never published "each and every one of AAPC's members" as you began
banning people right from the beginning. And it sure doesn't do that
now, when only 3 of you contribute anything (and nothing of value)
to AAPC.
MMP: And your recent false claims that "AYoS" steals poetryyou're going to stay banned from that publication for the remainder
ensure that
of your miserable little life.
GJD: So you "banned" me after I asked you to remove my poems:
Whoop-d0-doo! Yet you're still hanging on to them, and advertising
them. I'll probably spend the rest of my "miserable little life"
trying to get them back from you.
MMP: Similarly, the Donkey and his Stink were not banned forsaid about me, but because they continually interrupted "The Sunday
anything they
Sampler" whenever Jim would "X" one of their poems.
GJD: Now, that's a good point: even before you and drivel-boy were
banning poets, you were censoring out their poems in the Sampler.
That's how you lost, notjust Will and Zod, but Ilya and Horatio as
well. And of you were the first to censor those; then you convinced
drivel-boy to do it, and that was the end of the Sampler as a
"showcase [for] the poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's
members". Don't blame others for the ruin of something you ruined
yourself.
MMP: In short, when you make false accusations of unfairliterary theft, you're going to be banned from participating in it.
practices and
GJD: We've already covered "unfair practices" - as for "literary
theft" - you used to take poetry from the Sampler, without asking,
and you admit you do the same thing with poems posted to your
facebook group. You're a thief, thief.
MMP: I doubt that *any* publication would accept submissions fromwho made such charges against them. And disrupting a magazine to
someone
the point that its editor closes it down, would get you banned from
just about any magazine as well.
GJD: If any publisher took poems of mine without asking, lied about
how long he intended to keep them in publication, or refused to take
them out of his magazine when challenged on the above points - and
you're guilty of all three - I wouldn't hesitate to speak up about
his "practices" - nor would I worry about it refusing to pring any
more poems that I wouldn't be submitting.
MMP: I don't hold personal grudges over name-calling. And even ifI wouldn't allow my personal grudges to carry over into my
I did,
publication.
GJD: Perhaps not; but you would allow your trolling (the reason you
get called names back) to carry over into your "publication" -
that's the only reason for your "publication" in the first place.
MMP: I would have considered allowing him to participate in"AYoS" had several of the other contributors not objected (although
his recent attempts to label "AYoS" as a vanity press have
permanently closed the door on him.
GJD: You claim AYoS is not a vanity anthology, by industry jargon,
because it doesn't charge upfront fees. Neither for example, does
the /American Library of Poetry/ - that group accepts anything, for
free, so they can sell copies to their poets.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1m4xt5a/us_the_america_librar
y_of_poetry_publication_scam/
That's exactly what /AYoS/ does as well; the only difference is that
they do it for the money, while you do it for the sake of pretending
to be a "publisher" - like the poets you publish, you're motivated
by your own vanity.
Horatio and Ilya are both good poets, too bad they were both driven
away.
And so it goes.
Horatio was good. Ilya was ESL and the English translations of his
poems were often laughably horrible. There were elements to his
poetry that I liked, but they were often overwhelmed by the campy, unintentional humor in the translation.
Neither was driven away from AYoS, as neither has ever appeared in
AYoS. I'm also pretty sure that neither appeared in The Sunday
Sampler (Ilya might have once or twice. Horatio never did).
But like I said: must of the AAPC members who were driven away from
AAPC Usenet over the past 10 years have ended up in AYoS: Myself,
NancyGene, Jim, Ash, Robert, Richard, Karen, Corey, Cujo, ME, Mabool (Rachel's uncle, IIRC), and Barry (Dental River).
So if anyone drove members away, it certainly wasn't me or NancyGene.
HarryLime wrote:
Will-Dockery wrote:
George J. Dance wrote:
Whenever HarryLiar deflects to a new subject in one thread, I'll be
opening another.
from "HarryLiar gives PPB some unsolicited advice"
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=670300531&start=70
Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka HarryLime wrote:
MMP: You're such a whiny, lying little shitbird, Dunce.You were banned from "AYoS" because you attacked the magazine, not
because of anything you said about me.
You falsely claimed that "AYoS" only published people that the
editors were friends with -- which was blatantly untrue -- especially
since your poetry was still in our current print issue at that time.
GJD: As usual, HarryLiar, you do *not* give a quote to back that up.
And, as usual, you're lying and misrepresenting. I pointed out that
you'd set up /AYoS/ as a vehicle for Team Monkey (you, NastyGoon,
and drivel-boy [Jim]) and your assorted allied -- including, now,
Mr. Fries -- so you could posture as "published poets." You
called that a "personal attack" on you and "banned" me; but hung on
to my poetry.
MMP: "AYoS" was started as a continuation of "The Sunday Sampler," which >>>> was created to showcase the poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC'smembers who contributed; and we continue that practice today.
GJD: IOW, /AYoS/ was set up as a copy of /April/ magazine. But it never
published "each and every one of AAPC's members" as you began banning
people right from the beginning. And it sure doesn't do that now, when
only 3 of you contribute anything (and nothing of value) to AAPC.
MMP: And your recent false claims that "AYoS" steals poetry ensure that >>>> you're going to stay banned from that publication for the remainderof your miserable little life.
GJD: So you "banned" me after I asked you to remove my poems: Whoop-d0-doo! >>> Yet you're still hanging on to them, and advertising them. I'll probably >>> spend the rest of my "miserable little life" trying to get them back
from you.
MMP: Similarly, the Donkey and his Stink were not banned for anything theysaid about me, but because they continually interrupted "The Sunday
Sampler" whenever Jim would "X" one of their poems.
GJD: Now, that's a good point: even before you and drivel-boy were banning >>> poets, you were censoring out their poems in the Sampler. That's how
you lost, notjust Will and Zod, but Ilya and Horatio as well. And of
you were the first to censor those; then you convinced drivel-boy to
do it, and that was the end of the Sampler as a "showcase [for] the
poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's members". Don't blame others
for the ruin of something you ruined yourself.
MMP: In short, when you make false accusations of unfair practices and >>>> literary theft, you're going to be banned from participating in it.
GJD: We've already covered "unfair practices" - as for "literary theft" - >>> you used to take poetry from the Sampler, without asking, and you
admit you do the same thing with poems posted to your facebook
group. You're a thief, thief.
MMP: I doubt that *any* publication would accept submissions from someonewho made such charges against them. And disrupting a magazine to the
point that its editor closes it down, would get you banned from just
about any magazine as well.
GJD: If any publisher took poems of mine without asking, lied about how
long he intended to keep them in publication, or refused to take
them out of his magazine when challenged on the above points - and
you're guilty of all three - I wouldn't hesitate to speak up about
his "practices" - nor would I worry about it refusing to pring any
more poems that I wouldn't be submitting.
MMP: I don't hold personal grudges over name-calling. And even if I did, >>>> I wouldn't allow my personal grudges to carry over into mypublication.
GJD: Perhaps not; but you would allow your trolling (the reason you get
called names back) to carry over into your "publication" - that's
the only reason for your "publication" in the first place.
MMP: I would have considered allowing him to participate in"AYoS" had several of the other contributors not objected (although
his recent attempts to label "AYoS" as a vanity press have
permanently closed the door on him.
GJD: You claim AYoS is not a vanity anthology, by industry jargon,
because it doesn't charge upfront fees. Neither for example, does
the /American Library of Poetry/ - that group accepts anything, for free, >>> so they can sell copies to their poets.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1m4xt5a/us_the_america_library_of_poetry_publication_scam/
That's exactly what /AYoS/ does as well; the only difference is that
they do it for the money, while you do it for the sake of pretending
to be a "publisher" - like the poets you publish, you're motivated
by your own vanity.
Horatio and Ilya are both good poets, too bad they were both driven away.
And so it goes.
Horatio was good. Ilya was ESL and the English translations of his poems were often laughably horrible. There were elements to his poetry that I liked, but they were often overwhelmed by the campy, unintentional humor in the translation.
Neither was driven away from AYoS, as neither has ever appeared in AYoS. I'm also pretty sure that neither appeared in The Sunday Sampler (Ilya might have once or twice. Horatio never did).
But like I said: must of the AAPC members who were driven away from AAPC Usenet over the past 10 years have ended up in AYoS: Myself, NancyGene, Jim, Ash, Robert, Richard, Karen, Corey, Cujo, ME, Mabool (Rachel's uncle, IIRC), and Barry (Dental River).
So if anyone drove members away, it certainly wasn't me or NancyGene.
Will-Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:
Will-Dockery wrote:
George J. Dance wrote:
Whenever HarryLiar deflects to a new subject in one thread, I'll be
opening another.
from "HarryLiar gives PPB some unsolicited advice"
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=670300531&start=70
Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka HarryLime wrote:
MMP: You're such a whiny, lying little shitbird, Dunce.You were banned from "AYoS" because you attacked the magazine, not
because of anything you said about me.
You falsely claimed that "AYoS" only published people that the
editors were friends with -- which was blatantly untrue -- especially >>>>> since your poetry was still in our current print issue at that time. >>>>>
GJD: As usual, HarryLiar, you do *not* give a quote to back that up.
And, as usual, you're lying and misrepresenting. I pointed out that
you'd set up /AYoS/ as a vehicle for Team Monkey (you, NastyGoon,
and drivel-boy [Jim]) and your assorted allied -- including, now,
Mr. Fries -- so you could posture as "published poets." You
called that a "personal attack" on you and "banned" me; but hung on
to my poetry.
MMP: "AYoS" was started as a continuation of "The Sunday Sampler," whichwas created to showcase the poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's >>>>> members who contributed; and we continue that practice today.
GJD: IOW, /AYoS/ was set up as a copy of /April/ magazine. But it never >>>> published "each and every one of AAPC's members" as you began banning
people right from the beginning. And it sure doesn't do that now, when >>>> only 3 of you contribute anything (and nothing of value) to AAPC.
MMP: And your recent false claims that "AYoS" steals poetry ensure that >>>>> you're going to stay banned from that publication for the remainderof your miserable little life.
GJD: So you "banned" me after I asked you to remove my poems: Whoop-d0-doo!
Yet you're still hanging on to them, and advertising them. I'll probably >>>> spend the rest of my "miserable little life" trying to get them back
from you.
MMP: Similarly, the Donkey and his Stink were not banned for anything theysaid about me, but because they continually interrupted "The Sunday
Sampler" whenever Jim would "X" one of their poems.
GJD: Now, that's a good point: even before you and drivel-boy were banning >>>> poets, you were censoring out their poems in the Sampler. That's how
you lost, notjust Will and Zod, but Ilya and Horatio as well. And of
you were the first to censor those; then you convinced drivel-boy to
do it, and that was the end of the Sampler as a "showcase [for] the
poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's members". Don't blame others
for the ruin of something you ruined yourself.
MMP: In short, when you make false accusations of unfair practices and >>>>> literary theft, you're going to be banned from participating in it.
GJD: We've already covered "unfair practices" - as for "literary theft" - >>>> you used to take poetry from the Sampler, without asking, and you
admit you do the same thing with poems posted to your facebook
group. You're a thief, thief.
MMP: I doubt that *any* publication would accept submissions from someonewho made such charges against them. And disrupting a magazine to the >>>>> point that its editor closes it down, would get you banned from just >>>>> about any magazine as well.
GJD: If any publisher took poems of mine without asking, lied about how >>>> long he intended to keep them in publication, or refused to take
them out of his magazine when challenged on the above points - and
you're guilty of all three - I wouldn't hesitate to speak up about
his "practices" - nor would I worry about it refusing to pring any
more poems that I wouldn't be submitting.
MMP: I don't hold personal grudges over name-calling. And even if I did,I wouldn't allow my personal grudges to carry over into my
publication.
GJD: Perhaps not; but you would allow your trolling (the reason you get >>>> called names back) to carry over into your "publication" - that's
the only reason for your "publication" in the first place.
MMP: I would have considered allowing him to participate in"AYoS" had several of the other contributors not objected (although
his recent attempts to label "AYoS" as a vanity press have
permanently closed the door on him.
GJD: You claim AYoS is not a vanity anthology, by industry jargon,
because it doesn't charge upfront fees. Neither for example, does
the /American Library of Poetry/ - that group accepts anything, for free, >>>> so they can sell copies to their poets.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1m4xt5a/us_the_america_library_of_poetry_publication_scam/
That's exactly what /AYoS/ does as well; the only difference is that
they do it for the money, while you do it for the sake of pretending
to be a "publisher" - like the poets you publish, you're motivated
by your own vanity.
Horatio and Ilya are both good poets, too bad they were both driven away. >>>
And so it goes.
Horatio was good. Ilya was ESL and the English translations of his poems were often laughably horrible. There were elements to his poetry that I liked, but they were often overwhelmed by the campy, unintentional humor in the translation.
Neither was driven away from AYoS, as neither has ever appeared in AYoS. I'm also pretty sure that neither appeared in The Sunday Sampler (Ilya might have once or twice. Horatio never did).
But like I said: must of the AAPC members who were driven away from AAPC Usenet over the past 10 years have ended up in AYoS: Myself, NancyGene, Jim, Ash, Robert, Richard, Karen, Corey, Cujo, ME, Mabool (Rachel's uncle, IIRC), and Barry (Dental River).
So if anyone drove members away, it certainly wasn't me or NancyGene.
Suddenly you forget that you and your troll friends ran off members of this poetry newsgroup such as Antti Loude, Vinyl Cat, and others?
You were very clear about your intentions at the time, Pendragon.
NancyGene wrote:
Will.Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
George J. Dance wrote:
Whenever HarryLiar deflects to a new subject in one thread, I'll be
opening another.
from "HarryLiar gives PPB some unsolicited advice"
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=670300531&start=70
Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka HarryLime wrote:
MMP: You're such a whiny, lying little shitbird, Dunce.You were banned from "AYoS" because you attacked the magazine, not >>>>>> because of anything you said about me.
You falsely claimed that "AYoS" only published people that the
editors were friends with -- which was blatantly untrue -- especially >>>>>> since your poetry was still in our current print issue at that time. >>>>>>
GJD: As usual, HarryLiar, you do *not* give a quote to back that up. >>>>> And, as usual, you're lying and misrepresenting. I pointed out that
you'd set up /AYoS/ as a vehicle for Team Monkey (you, NastyGoon,
and drivel-boy [Jim]) and your assorted allied -- including, now,
Mr. Fries -- so you could posture as "published poets." You
called that a "personal attack" on you and "banned" me; but hung on
to my poetry.
MMP: "AYoS" was started as a continuation of "The Sunday Sampler," whichwas created to showcase the poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's >>>>>> members who contributed; and we continue that practice today.
GJD: IOW, /AYoS/ was set up as a copy of /April/ magazine. But it never >>>>> published "each and every one of AAPC's members" as you began banning >>>>> people right from the beginning. And it sure doesn't do that now, when >>>>> only 3 of you contribute anything (and nothing of value) to AAPC.
MMP: And your recent false claims that "AYoS" steals poetry ensure thatyou're going to stay banned from that publication for the remainder >>>>>> of your miserable little life.
GJD: So you "banned" me after I asked you to remove my poems: Whoop-d0-doo!
Yet you're still hanging on to them, and advertising them. I'll probably >>>>> spend the rest of my "miserable little life" trying to get them back >>>>> from you.
MMP: Similarly, the Donkey and his Stink were not banned for anything theysaid about me, but because they continually interrupted "The Sunday >>>>>> Sampler" whenever Jim would "X" one of their poems.
GJD: Now, that's a good point: even before you and drivel-boy were banning
poets, you were censoring out their poems in the Sampler. That's how >>>>> you lost, notjust Will and Zod, but Ilya and Horatio as well. And of >>>>> you were the first to censor those; then you convinced drivel-boy to >>>>> do it, and that was the end of the Sampler as a "showcase [for] the
poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's members". Don't blame others >>>>> for the ruin of something you ruined yourself.
MMP: In short, when you make false accusations of unfair practices and >>>>>> literary theft, you're going to be banned from participating in it. >>>>>>
GJD: We've already covered "unfair practices" - as for "literary theft" - >>>>> you used to take poetry from the Sampler, without asking, and you
admit you do the same thing with poems posted to your facebook
group. You're a thief, thief.
MMP: I doubt that *any* publication would accept submissions from someonewho made such charges against them. And disrupting a magazine to the >>>>>> point that its editor closes it down, would get you banned from just >>>>>> about any magazine as well.
GJD: If any publisher took poems of mine without asking, lied about how >>>>> long he intended to keep them in publication, or refused to take
them out of his magazine when challenged on the above points - and
you're guilty of all three - I wouldn't hesitate to speak up about
his "practices" - nor would I worry about it refusing to pring any
more poems that I wouldn't be submitting.
MMP: I don't hold personal grudges over name-calling. And even if I did,I wouldn't allow my personal grudges to carry over into my
publication.
GJD: Perhaps not; but you would allow your trolling (the reason you get >>>>> called names back) to carry over into your "publication" - that's
the only reason for your "publication" in the first place.
MMP: I would have considered allowing him to participate in"AYoS" had several of the other contributors not objected (although >>>>>> his recent attempts to label "AYoS" as a vanity press have
permanently closed the door on him.
GJD: You claim AYoS is not a vanity anthology, by industry jargon,
because it doesn't charge upfront fees. Neither for example, does
the /American Library of Poetry/ - that group accepts anything, for free,
so they can sell copies to their poets.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1m4xt5a/us_the_america_library_of_poetry_publication_scam/
That's exactly what /AYoS/ does as well; the only difference is that >>>>> they do it for the money, while you do it for the sake of pretending >>>>> to be a "publisher" - like the poets you publish, you're motivated
by your own vanity.
Horatio and Ilya are both good poets, too bad they were both driven away. >>>>
And so it goes.
Horatio was good. Ilya was ESL and the English translations of his poems were often laughably horrible. There were elements to his poetry that I liked, but they were often overwhelmed by the campy, unintentional humor in the translation.
Neither was driven away from AYoS, as neither has ever appeared in AYoS. I'm also pretty sure that neither appeared in The Sunday Sampler (Ilya might have once or twice. Horatio never did).
But like I said: must of the AAPC members who were driven away from AAPC Usenet over the past 10 years have ended up in AYoS: Myself, NancyGene, Jim, Ash, Robert, Richard, Karen, Corey, Cujo, ME, Mabool (Rachel's uncle, IIRC), and Barry (Dental River).
So if anyone drove members away, it certainly wasn't me or NancyGene.
Suddenly you forget that you and your troll friends ran off members of this poetry newsgroup such as Antti Loude, Vinyl Cat, and others?
You were very clear about your intentions at the time, Pendragon.
Vinyl c*nt said she was tough and could take it. Not exactly a brick house, that one. Antti wasn't a poet. Vinyl c*nt wasn't a poet.
Will-Dockery wrote:
NancyGene wrote:
Will.Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
George J. Dance wrote:
Whenever HarryLiar deflects to a new subject in one thread, I'll be >>>>>> opening another.
from "HarryLiar gives PPB some unsolicited advice"
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=670300531&start=70
Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka HarryLime wrote:
MMP: You're such a whiny, lying little shitbird, Dunce.You were banned from "AYoS" because you attacked the magazine, not >>>>>>> because of anything you said about me.
You falsely claimed that "AYoS" only published people that the
editors were friends with -- which was blatantly untrue -- especially >>>>>>> since your poetry was still in our current print issue at that time. >>>>>>>
GJD: As usual, HarryLiar, you do *not* give a quote to back that up. >>>>>> And, as usual, you're lying and misrepresenting. I pointed out that >>>>>> you'd set up /AYoS/ as a vehicle for Team Monkey (you, NastyGoon,
and drivel-boy [Jim]) and your assorted allied -- including, now,
Mr. Fries -- so you could posture as "published poets." You
called that a "personal attack" on you and "banned" me; but hung on >>>>>> to my poetry.
MMP: "AYoS" was started as a continuation of "The Sunday Sampler," whichwas created to showcase the poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's >>>>>>> members who contributed; and we continue that practice today.
GJD: IOW, /AYoS/ was set up as a copy of /April/ magazine. But it never >>>>>> published "each and every one of AAPC's members" as you began banning >>>>>> people right from the beginning. And it sure doesn't do that now, when >>>>>> only 3 of you contribute anything (and nothing of value) to AAPC.
MMP: And your recent false claims that "AYoS" steals poetry ensure thatyou're going to stay banned from that publication for the remainder >>>>>>> of your miserable little life.
GJD: So you "banned" me after I asked you to remove my poems: Whoop-d0-doo!
Yet you're still hanging on to them, and advertising them. I'll probably >>>>>> spend the rest of my "miserable little life" trying to get them back >>>>>> from you.
MMP: Similarly, the Donkey and his Stink were not banned for anything theysaid about me, but because they continually interrupted "The Sunday >>>>>>> Sampler" whenever Jim would "X" one of their poems.
GJD: Now, that's a good point: even before you and drivel-boy were banning
poets, you were censoring out their poems in the Sampler. That's how >>>>>> you lost, notjust Will and Zod, but Ilya and Horatio as well. And of >>>>>> you were the first to censor those; then you convinced drivel-boy to >>>>>> do it, and that was the end of the Sampler as a "showcase [for] the >>>>>> poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's members". Don't blame others >>>>>> for the ruin of something you ruined yourself.
MMP: In short, when you make false accusations of unfair practices andliterary theft, you're going to be banned from participating in it. >>>>>>>
GJD: We've already covered "unfair practices" - as for "literary theft" -
you used to take poetry from the Sampler, without asking, and you
admit you do the same thing with poems posted to your facebook
group. You're a thief, thief.
MMP: I doubt that *any* publication would accept submissions from someonewho made such charges against them. And disrupting a magazine to the >>>>>>> point that its editor closes it down, would get you banned from just >>>>>>> about any magazine as well.
GJD: If any publisher took poems of mine without asking, lied about how >>>>>> long he intended to keep them in publication, or refused to take
them out of his magazine when challenged on the above points - and >>>>>> you're guilty of all three - I wouldn't hesitate to speak up about >>>>>> his "practices" - nor would I worry about it refusing to pring any >>>>>> more poems that I wouldn't be submitting.
MMP: I don't hold personal grudges over name-calling. And even if I did,I wouldn't allow my personal grudges to carry over into my
publication.
GJD: Perhaps not; but you would allow your trolling (the reason you get >>>>>> called names back) to carry over into your "publication" - that's
the only reason for your "publication" in the first place.
MMP: I would have considered allowing him to participate in"AYoS" had several of the other contributors not objected (although >>>>>>> his recent attempts to label "AYoS" as a vanity press have
permanently closed the door on him.
GJD: You claim AYoS is not a vanity anthology, by industry jargon, >>>>>> because it doesn't charge upfront fees. Neither for example, does
the /American Library of Poetry/ - that group accepts anything, for free,
so they can sell copies to their poets.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1m4xt5a/us_the_america_library_of_poetry_publication_scam/
That's exactly what /AYoS/ does as well; the only difference is that >>>>>> they do it for the money, while you do it for the sake of pretending >>>>>> to be a "publisher" - like the poets you publish, you're motivated >>>>>> by your own vanity.
Horatio and Ilya are both good poets, too bad they were both driven away. >>>>>
And so it goes.
Horatio was good. Ilya was ESL and the English translations of his poems were often laughably horrible. There were elements to his poetry that I liked, but they were often overwhelmed by the campy, unintentional humor in the translation.
Neither was driven away from AYoS, as neither has ever appeared in AYoS. I'm also pretty sure that neither appeared in The Sunday Sampler (Ilya might have once or twice. Horatio never did).
But like I said: must of the AAPC members who were driven away from AAPC Usenet over the past 10 years have ended up in AYoS: Myself, NancyGene, Jim, Ash, Robert, Richard, Karen, Corey, Cujo, ME, Mabool (Rachel's uncle, IIRC), and Barry (Dental River).
So if anyone drove members away, it certainly wasn't me or NancyGene.
Suddenly you forget that you and your troll friends ran off members of this poetry newsgroup such as Antti Loude, Vinyl Cat, and others?
You were very clear about your intentions at the time, Pendragon.
Vinyl c*nt said she was tough and could take it. Not exactly a brick house, that one. Antti wasn't a poet. Vinyl c*nt wasn't a poet.
Both Vinyl Cunt and Antti Loude wrote and posted poetry on this newsgroup.
NancyGene wrote:
Will-Dockery wrote:
NancyGene wrote:
Will.Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
George J. Dance wrote:
Whenever HarryLiar deflects to a new subject in one thread, I'll be >>>>>>> opening another.
from "HarryLiar gives PPB some unsolicited advice"
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=670300531&start=70
Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka HarryLime wrote:
MMP: You're such a whiny, lying little shitbird, Dunce.You were banned from "AYoS" because you attacked the magazine, not >>>>>>>> because of anything you said about me.
You falsely claimed that "AYoS" only published people that the >>>>>>>> editors were friends with -- which was blatantly untrue -- especially >>>>>>>> since your poetry was still in our current print issue at that time. >>>>>>>>
GJD: As usual, HarryLiar, you do *not* give a quote to back that up. >>>>>>> And, as usual, you're lying and misrepresenting. I pointed out that >>>>>>> you'd set up /AYoS/ as a vehicle for Team Monkey (you, NastyGoon, >>>>>>> and drivel-boy [Jim]) and your assorted allied -- including, now, >>>>>>> Mr. Fries -- so you could posture as "published poets." You
called that a "personal attack" on you and "banned" me; but hung on >>>>>>> to my poetry.
MMP: "AYoS" was started as a continuation of "The Sunday Sampler," whichwas created to showcase the poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's >>>>>>>> members who contributed; and we continue that practice today.
GJD: IOW, /AYoS/ was set up as a copy of /April/ magazine. But it never >>>>>>> published "each and every one of AAPC's members" as you began banning >>>>>>> people right from the beginning. And it sure doesn't do that now, when >>>>>>> only 3 of you contribute anything (and nothing of value) to AAPC. >>>>>>>
MMP: And your recent false claims that "AYoS" steals poetry ensure thatyou're going to stay banned from that publication for the remainder >>>>>>>> of your miserable little life.
GJD: So you "banned" me after I asked you to remove my poems: Whoop-d0-doo!
Yet you're still hanging on to them, and advertising them. I'll probably
spend the rest of my "miserable little life" trying to get them back >>>>>>> from you.
MMP: Similarly, the Donkey and his Stink were not banned for anything theysaid about me, but because they continually interrupted "The Sunday >>>>>>>> Sampler" whenever Jim would "X" one of their poems.
GJD: Now, that's a good point: even before you and drivel-boy were banning
poets, you were censoring out their poems in the Sampler. That's how >>>>>>> you lost, notjust Will and Zod, but Ilya and Horatio as well. And of >>>>>>> you were the first to censor those; then you convinced drivel-boy to >>>>>>> do it, and that was the end of the Sampler as a "showcase [for] the >>>>>>> poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's members". Don't blame others >>>>>>> for the ruin of something you ruined yourself.
MMP: In short, when you make false accusations of unfair practices andliterary theft, you're going to be banned from participating in it. >>>>>>>>
GJD: We've already covered "unfair practices" - as for "literary theft" -
you used to take poetry from the Sampler, without asking, and you >>>>>>> admit you do the same thing with poems posted to your facebook
group. You're a thief, thief.
MMP: I doubt that *any* publication would accept submissions from someonewho made such charges against them. And disrupting a magazine to the >>>>>>>> point that its editor closes it down, would get you banned from just >>>>>>>> about any magazine as well.
GJD: If any publisher took poems of mine without asking, lied about how >>>>>>> long he intended to keep them in publication, or refused to take >>>>>>> them out of his magazine when challenged on the above points - and >>>>>>> you're guilty of all three - I wouldn't hesitate to speak up about >>>>>>> his "practices" - nor would I worry about it refusing to pring any >>>>>>> more poems that I wouldn't be submitting.
MMP: I don't hold personal grudges over name-calling. And even if I did,I wouldn't allow my personal grudges to carry over into my
publication.
GJD: Perhaps not; but you would allow your trolling (the reason you get >>>>>>> called names back) to carry over into your "publication" - that's >>>>>>> the only reason for your "publication" in the first place.
MMP: I would have considered allowing him to participate in"AYoS" had several of the other contributors not objected (although >>>>>>>> his recent attempts to label "AYoS" as a vanity press have
permanently closed the door on him.
GJD: You claim AYoS is not a vanity anthology, by industry jargon, >>>>>>> because it doesn't charge upfront fees. Neither for example, does >>>>>>> the /American Library of Poetry/ - that group accepts anything, for free,
so they can sell copies to their poets.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1m4xt5a/us_the_america_library_of_poetry_publication_scam/
That's exactly what /AYoS/ does as well; the only difference is that >>>>>>> they do it for the money, while you do it for the sake of pretending >>>>>>> to be a "publisher" - like the poets you publish, you're motivated >>>>>>> by your own vanity.
Horatio and Ilya are both good poets, too bad they were both driven away.
And so it goes.
Horatio was good. Ilya was ESL and the English translations of his poems were often laughably horrible. There were elements to his poetry that I liked, but they were often overwhelmed by the campy, unintentional humor in the translation.
Neither was driven away from AYoS, as neither has ever appeared in AYoS. I'm also pretty sure that neither appeared in The Sunday Sampler (Ilya might have once or twice. Horatio never did).
But like I said: must of the AAPC members who were driven away from AAPC Usenet over the past 10 years have ended up in AYoS: Myself, NancyGene, Jim, Ash, Robert, Richard, Karen, Corey, Cujo, ME, Mabool (Rachel's uncle, IIRC), and Barry (Dental River).
So if anyone drove members away, it certainly wasn't me or NancyGene. >>>>
Suddenly you forget that you and your troll friends ran off members of this poetry newsgroup such as Antti Loude, Vinyl Cat, and others?
You were very clear about your intentions at the time, Pendragon.
Vinyl c*nt said she was tough and could take it. Not exactly a brick house, that one. Antti wasn't a poet. Vinyl c*nt wasn't a poet.
Both Vinyl c*nt and Antti Loude wrote and posted poetry on this newsgroup.
They posted things that they wrote, which weren't poems.
Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka HarryLime wrote:
MMP: You're such a whiny, lying little shitbird, Dunce.You were banned from "AYoS" because you attacked the magazine, not
because of anything you said about me.
You falsely claimed that "AYoS" only published people that the
editors were friends with -- which was blatantly untrue -- especially
since your poetry was still in our current print issue at that time.
MMP: "AYoS" was started as a continuation of "The Sunday Sampler," whichwas created to showcase the poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's
members who contributed; and we continue that practice today.
MMP: And your recent false claims that "AYoS" steals poetry ensure thatyou're going to stay banned from that publication for the remainder
of your miserable little life.
MMP: Similarly, the Donkey and his Stink were not banned for anything theysaid about me, but because they continually interrupted "The Sunday
Sampler" whenever Jim would "X" one of their poems.
MMP: In short, when you make false accusations of unfair practices andliterary theft, you're going to be banned from participating in it.
MMP: I doubt that *any* publication would accept submissions from someonewho made such charges against them. And disrupting a magazine to the
point that its editor closes it down, would get you banned from just
about any magazine as well.
MMP: I don't hold personal grudges over name-calling. And even if I did,I wouldn't allow my personal grudges to carry over into my
publication.
MMP: I would have considered allowing him to participate in"AYoS" had several of the other contributors not objected (although
his recent attempts to label "AYoS" as a vanity press have
permanently closed the door on him.
George J. Dance wrote:
Whenever HarryLiar deflects to a new subject in one thread, I'll be
opening another.
(Long-winded screed snipped)
George J. Dance wrote:
Whenever HarryLiar deflects to a new subject in one thread, I'll be
opening another.
(Long-winded screed snipped)
Why, that will show him!!!
View the attachments for this post at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=700067678#700067678
NancyGene wrote:
Will-Dockery wrote:
NancyGene wrote:
Will.Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
George J. Dance wrote:
Whenever HarryLiar deflects to a new subject in one thread, I'll be >>>>>>> opening another.
from "HarryLiar gives PPB some unsolicited advice"
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=670300531&start=70
Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka HarryLime wrote:
MMP: You're such a whiny, lying little shitbird, Dunce.You were banned from "AYoS" because you attacked the magazine, not >>>>>>>> because of anything you said about me.
You falsely claimed that "AYoS" only published people that the >>>>>>>> editors were friends with -- which was blatantly untrue -- especially >>>>>>>> since your poetry was still in our current print issue at that time. >>>>>>>>
GJD: As usual, HarryLiar, you do *not* give a quote to back that up. >>>>>>> And, as usual, you're lying and misrepresenting. I pointed out that >>>>>>> you'd set up /AYoS/ as a vehicle for Team Monkey (you, NastyGoon, >>>>>>> and drivel-boy [Jim]) and your assorted allied -- including, now, >>>>>>> Mr. Fries -- so you could posture as "published poets." You
called that a "personal attack" on you and "banned" me; but hung on >>>>>>> to my poetry.
MMP: "AYoS" was started as a continuation of "The Sunday Sampler," whichwas created to showcase the poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's >>>>>>>> members who contributed; and we continue that practice today.
GJD: IOW, /AYoS/ was set up as a copy of /April/ magazine. But it never >>>>>>> published "each and every one of AAPC's members" as you began banning >>>>>>> people right from the beginning. And it sure doesn't do that now, when >>>>>>> only 3 of you contribute anything (and nothing of value) to AAPC. >>>>>>>
MMP: And your recent false claims that "AYoS" steals poetry ensure thatyou're going to stay banned from that publication for the remainder >>>>>>>> of your miserable little life.
GJD: So you "banned" me after I asked you to remove my poems: Whoop-d0-doo!
Yet you're still hanging on to them, and advertising them. I'll probably
spend the rest of my "miserable little life" trying to get them back >>>>>>> from you.
MMP: Similarly, the Donkey and his Stink were not banned for anything theysaid about me, but because they continually interrupted "The Sunday >>>>>>>> Sampler" whenever Jim would "X" one of their poems.
GJD: Now, that's a good point: even before you and drivel-boy were banning
poets, you were censoring out their poems in the Sampler. That's how >>>>>>> you lost, notjust Will and Zod, but Ilya and Horatio as well. And of >>>>>>> you were the first to censor those; then you convinced drivel-boy to >>>>>>> do it, and that was the end of the Sampler as a "showcase [for] the >>>>>>> poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's members". Don't blame others >>>>>>> for the ruin of something you ruined yourself.
MMP: In short, when you make false accusations of unfair practices andliterary theft, you're going to be banned from participating in it. >>>>>>>>
GJD: We've already covered "unfair practices" - as for "literary theft" -
you used to take poetry from the Sampler, without asking, and you >>>>>>> admit you do the same thing with poems posted to your facebook
group. You're a thief, thief.
MMP: I doubt that *any* publication would accept submissions from someonewho made such charges against them. And disrupting a magazine to the >>>>>>>> point that its editor closes it down, would get you banned from just >>>>>>>> about any magazine as well.
GJD: If any publisher took poems of mine without asking, lied about how >>>>>>> long he intended to keep them in publication, or refused to take >>>>>>> them out of his magazine when challenged on the above points - and >>>>>>> you're guilty of all three - I wouldn't hesitate to speak up about >>>>>>> his "practices" - nor would I worry about it refusing to pring any >>>>>>> more poems that I wouldn't be submitting.
MMP: I don't hold personal grudges over name-calling. And even if I did,I wouldn't allow my personal grudges to carry over into my
publication.
GJD: Perhaps not; but you would allow your trolling (the reason you get >>>>>>> called names back) to carry over into your "publication" - that's >>>>>>> the only reason for your "publication" in the first place.
MMP: I would have considered allowing him to participate in"AYoS" had several of the other contributors not objected (although >>>>>>>> his recent attempts to label "AYoS" as a vanity press have
permanently closed the door on him.
GJD: You claim AYoS is not a vanity anthology, by industry jargon, >>>>>>> because it doesn't charge upfront fees. Neither for example, does >>>>>>> the /American Library of Poetry/ - that group accepts anything, for free,
so they can sell copies to their poets.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1m4xt5a/us_the_america_library_of_poetry_publication_scam/
That's exactly what /AYoS/ does as well; the only difference is that >>>>>>> they do it for the money, while you do it for the sake of pretending >>>>>>> to be a "publisher" - like the poets you publish, you're motivated >>>>>>> by your own vanity.
Horatio and Ilya are both good poets, too bad they were both driven away.
And so it goes.
Horatio was good. Ilya was ESL and the English translations of his poems were often laughably horrible. There were elements to his poetry that I liked, but they were often overwhelmed by the campy, unintentional humor in the translation.
Neither was driven away from AYoS, as neither has ever appeared in AYoS. I'm also pretty sure that neither appeared in The Sunday Sampler (Ilya might have once or twice. Horatio never did).
But like I said: must of the AAPC members who were driven away from AAPC Usenet over the past 10 years have ended up in AYoS: Myself, NancyGene, Jim, Ash, Robert, Richard, Karen, Corey, Cujo, ME, Mabool (Rachel's uncle, IIRC), and Barry (Dental River).
So if anyone drove members away, it certainly wasn't me or NancyGene. >>>>
Suddenly you forget that you and your troll friends ran off members of this poetry newsgroup such as Antti Loude, Vinyl Cat, and others?
You were very clear about your intentions at the time, Pendragon.
Vinyl c*nt said she was tough and could take it. Not exactly a brick house, that one. Antti wasn't a poet. Vinyl c*nt wasn't a poet.
Both Vinyl c*nt and Antti Loude wrote and posted poetry on this newsgroup.
They posted things that they wrote, which weren't poems. How many poems have they written since they left AAPC? Zero to none.
Will Dockery wrote:
HarryLime wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
George J. Dance wrote:
Whenever HarryLiar deflects to a new subject in one thread, I'll be
opening another.
from "HarryLiar gives PPB some unsolicited advice"
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=670300531&start=70
Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka HarryLime wrote:
MMP: You're such a whiny, lying little shitbird, Dunce.You were banned from "AYoS" because you attacked the magazine, not >>>>>>>> because of anything you said about me.
You falsely claimed that "AYoS" only published people that the >>>>>>>> editors were friends with -- which was blatantly untrue -- especially
since your poetry was still in our current print issue at that time.
GJD: As usual, HarryLiar, you do *not* give a quote to back that up. >>>>>>> And, as usual, you're lying and misrepresenting. I pointed out that >>>>>>> you'd set up /AYoS/ as a vehicle for Team Monkey (you, NastyGoon, >>>>>>> and drivel-boy [Jim]) and your assorted allied -- including, now, >>>>>>> Mr. Fries -- so you could posture as "published poets." You
called that a "personal attack" on you and "banned" me; but hung on >>>>>>> to my poetry.
MMP: "AYoS" was started as a continuation of "The Sunday Sampler," whichwas created to showcase the poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's >>>>>>>> members who contributed; and we continue that practice today.
GJD: IOW, /AYoS/ was set up as a copy of /April/ magazine. But it never
published "each and every one of AAPC's members" as you began banning >>>>>>> people right from the beginning. And it sure doesn't do that now, when
only 3 of you contribute anything (and nothing of value) to AAPC.
MMP: And your recent false claims that "AYoS" steals poetry ensure thatyou're going to stay banned from that publication for the remainder >>>>>>>> of your miserable little life.
GJD: So you "banned" me after I asked you to remove my poems: Whoop-d0-doo!
Yet you're still hanging on to them, and advertising them. I'll probably
spend the rest of my "miserable little life" trying to get them back >>>>>>> from you.
MMP: Similarly, the Donkey and his Stink were not banned for anything theysaid about me, but because they continually interrupted "The Sunday >>>>>>>> Sampler" whenever Jim would "X" one of their poems.
GJD: Now, that's a good point: even before you and drivel-boy were banning
poets, you were censoring out their poems in the Sampler. That's how >>>>>>> you lost, notjust Will and Zod, but Ilya and Horatio as well. And of >>>>>>> you were the first to censor those; then you convinced drivel-boy to >>>>>>> do it, and that was the end of the Sampler as a "showcase [for] the >>>>>>> poetry of *each and every one* of AAPC's members". Don't blame others >>>>>>> for the ruin of something you ruined yourself.
MMP: In short, when you make false accusations of unfair practices andliterary theft, you're going to be banned from participating in it.
GJD: We've already covered "unfair practices" - as for "literary theft" -
you used to take poetry from the Sampler, without asking, and you >>>>>>> admit you do the same thing with poems posted to your facebook >>>>>>> group. You're a thief, thief.
MMP: I doubt that *any* publication would accept submissions from someonewho made such charges against them. And disrupting a magazine to the >>>>>>>> point that its editor closes it down, would get you banned from just >>>>>>>> about any magazine as well.
GJD: If any publisher took poems of mine without asking, lied about how
long he intended to keep them in publication, or refused to take >>>>>>> them out of his magazine when challenged on the above points - and >>>>>>> you're guilty of all three - I wouldn't hesitate to speak up about >>>>>>> his "practices" - nor would I worry about it refusing to pring any >>>>>>> more poems that I wouldn't be submitting.
MMP: I don't hold personal grudges over name-calling. And even if I did,I wouldn't allow my personal grudges to carry over into my
publication.
GJD: Perhaps not; but you would allow your trolling (the reason you get
called names back) to carry over into your "publication" - that's >>>>>>> the only reason for your "publication" in the first place.
MMP: I would have considered allowing him to participate in >>>>>>>> "AYoS" had several of the other contributors not objected (although >>>>>>>> his recent attempts to label "AYoS" as a vanity press havepermanently closed the door on him.
GJD: You claim AYoS is not a vanity anthology, by industry jargon, >>>>>>> because it doesn't charge upfront fees. Neither for example, does >>>>>>> the /American Library of Poetry/ - that group accepts anything, for free,
so they can sell copies to their poets.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1m4xt5a/us_the_america_library_of_poetry_publication_scam/
That's exactly what /AYoS/ does as well; the only difference is that >>>>>>> they do it for the money, while you do it for the sake of pretending >>>>>>> to be a "publisher" - like the poets you publish, you're motivated >>>>>>> by your own vanity.
Horatio and Ilya are both good poets, too bad they were both driven away.
And so it goes.
Horatio was good. Ilya was ESL and the English translations of his poems were often laughably horrible. There were elements to his poetry that I liked, but they were often overwhelmed by the campy, unintentional humor in the translation.
Neither was driven away from AYoS, as neither has ever appeared in AYoS. I'm also pretty sure that neither appeared in The Sunday Sampler (Ilya might have once or twice. Horatio never did).
But like I said: must of the AAPC members who were driven away from AAPC Usenet over the past 10 years have ended up in AYoS: Myself, NancyGene, Jim, Ash, Robert, Richard, Karen, Corey, Cujo, ME, Mabool (Rachel's uncle, IIRC), and Barry (Dental River).
So if anyone drove members away, it certainly wasn't me or NancyGene.
Suddenly you forget that you and your troll friends ran off members of this poetry newsgroup such as Antti Loude, Vinyl Cat, and others?
You were very clear about your intentions at the time, Pendragon.
Vinyl c*nt said she was tough and could take it. Not exactly a brick house, that one. Antti wasn't a poet. Vinyl c*nt wasn't a poet.
Both Vinyl c*nt and Antti Loude wrote and posted poetry on this newsgroup.
They posted things that they wrote, which weren't poems. How many poems have they written since they left AAPC? Zero to none.
Vinyl Cunt was an active member of the "poetry scene" in Columbus while slinging hash at the Waffle House. All hours. No rhyme or reason.
George J. Dance wrote:
Whenever HarryLiar deflects to a new subject in one thread, I'll be
opening another.
(Long-winded screed snipped)
Why, that will show him!!!
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