• [OT] Another example of misued surveys and statistics

    From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 30 09:51:42 2024
    Another example of misued surveys and statistics

    This is a problem that sparked massive debate (and backlash) ...


    There are three doors. Behind one is a car-a gleaming, shiny,
    make-your-friends-jealous car. The other two? Goats. What
    happens to the goats if you win is anyone's guess, but let's
    stay focused.

    Pick a door. 1, 2, or 3. Got one? Great. Let's say you picked
    door 1. Now, the host opens door 3 to reveal ... a goat. Now
    comes the big moment. The host gives you a choice: stick with
    your original pick, or switch to door 2? What do you do?

    <https://www.upworthy.com/woman-with-worlds-highest-iq>


    According to Marilyn vos Savant (supposed IQ genius) back in 1990, you
    should definitely swap because the statistics apparently "prove" you
    chances of winning the car double.

    The reality for anyone with an actual brain and common sense capable of rational thinking is that it's a no-loose decision. When you swap,
    you're either going to win the car or the other goat ... either you win
    big or you've still got a goat as you originally did. Only an idiot or
    a goat enthusiast wouldn't swap. It has nothing at all to do with the statistics.

    Of course, all this is completely irrelevant to making choices since
    it's more likely that each "door" you can pick from has a different
    "prize" rather than two of them being the same "prizes".

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Sat Nov 30 01:22:54 2024
    In article <vid9gu$187e9$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    Another example of misued surveys and statistics

    This is a problem that sparked massive debate (and backlash) ...


    There are three doors. Behind one is a car-a gleaming, shiny,
    make-your-friends-jealous car. The other two? Goats. What
    happens to the goats if you win is anyone's guess, but let's
    stay focused.

    Pick a door. 1, 2, or 3. Got one? Great. Let's say you picked
    door 1. Now, the host opens door 3 to reveal ... a goat. Now
    comes the big moment. The host gives you a choice: stick with
    your original pick, or switch to door 2? What do you do?

    <https://www.upworthy.com/woman-with-worlds-highest-iq>


    According to Marilyn vos Savant (supposed IQ genius) back in 1990, you
    should definitely swap because the statistics apparently "prove" you
    chances of winning the car double.

    The reality for anyone with an actual brain and common sense capable of >rational thinking is that it's a no-loose decision. When you swap,
    you're either going to win the car or the other goat ... either you win
    big or you've still got a goat as you originally did. Only an idiot or
    a goat enthusiast wouldn't swap. It has nothing at all to do with the >statistics.

    Of course, all this is completely irrelevant to making choices since
    it's more likely that each "door" you can pick from has a different
    "prize" rather than two of them being the same "prizes".



    Talk about a no logic argument.
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  • From The True Doctor@21:1/5 to Your Name on Sat Nov 30 03:06:27 2024
    On 29/11/2024 20:51, Your Name wrote:

    Another example of misued surveys and statistics

    This is a problem that sparked massive debate (and backlash) ...


       There are three doors. Behind one is a car-a gleaming, shiny,
       make-your-friends-jealous car. The other two? Goats. What
       happens to the goats if you win is anyone's guess, but let's
       stay focused.

       Pick a door. 1, 2, or 3. Got one? Great. Let's say you picked
       door 1. Now, the host opens door 3 to reveal ... a goat. Now
       comes the big moment. The host gives you a choice: stick with
       your original pick, or switch to door 2? What do you do?

       <https://www.upworthy.com/woman-with-worlds-highest-iq>


    According to Marilyn vos Savant (supposed IQ genius) back in 1990, you
    should definitely swap because the statistics apparently "prove" you
    chances of winning the car double.

    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem#:~:text=There%20is%20a%202%2F3,does%20not%20change%20this%20probability.


    The reality for anyone with an actual brain and common sense capable of rational thinking is that it's a no-loose decision. When you swap,

    The reality is that the answer given is pure bullshit and yet another
    example of fake news.

    The chance of finding a car behind one of 3 doors is 1/3. The chance of
    finding a goat is 2/3. Changing your mind makes no difference. Their
    claim that it does is a pure downright lie since by thinking of which
    door to pic you've probably already changed your mind more than once to
    pick the door you are at already when the show hosts opens a door with a
    goat behind it. Once you've stood behind a door and the choice is
    reduced to a door with a car and a door with a goat, the chance of
    getting the car is 50/50 whether or not you change your mind, not 2/3.

    If their claims are true and I am wrong then I wonder if this
    methodology can be used to violate the uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics. Actually I can answer that. Once you've made a measurement ot observation the superposition of eigen states or so-called quantum
    entanglement collapses based on the measurement you have made and where
    the measuring equipment is placed, thus any prior state that might be determined by localized hidden variables (the presented knowing what is
    behind all the doors) cannot be used to determine a future state as it
    would violate Bell's Theorem. Making a new measurement or observation
    means you are conducting a new experiment with new variables from the beginning.

    Why this Monty Hall bullshit has never been debunked I have no idea. Has
    anyone got proof that actual contestants that changed their minds won
    the car more often than those that didn't? I don't see any in the article.
    > you're either going to win the car or the other goat ... either you win
    big or you've still got a goat as you originally did. Only an idiot or a
    goat enthusiast wouldn't swap. It has nothing at all to do with the statistics.


    If you win the goat you can always raffle it and make more money from
    the raffle than the car is worth. The moment you buy a new car and have
    it delivered it's value automatically drops by 50% anyway. Unless of
    course it's a very limited edition sports car.

    Of course, all this is completely irrelevant to making choices since
    it's more likely that each "door" you can pick from has a different
    "prize" rather than two of them being the same "prizes".




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