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Subject: Re: Share Windows screen with an iPhone
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 23:29:51 -0000 (UTC)
From: Andrew <andys@nospam.com>
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GlowingBlueMist wrote on Wed, 20 Nov 2024 22:57:07 -0600 :

On 11/20/2024 10:17 PM, Andrews wrote:

I need to share my Windows screen so that someone else who is only on an
iPhone can operate my screen (mouse & keyboard entries for example).

For those of you who have performed that sharing task, how do you do it?

What are your suggestions for the most compatible software to do it?

Thanks!

A google search resulted in the following and no I have not tried either
of these methods.

To remotely control a Windows PC from an iPhone, you can use the
Microsoft Remote Desktop app or Splashtop:

Microsoft Remote Desktop
1. Install the app from the App Store or iTunes
2. Open the app and give it the necessary permissions
3. Tap the plus (+) button and select Add PC
4. Type the name of the PC and add .local at the end
5. Enter the account name you want to use
6. Type a name in the Friendly Name field
7. Tap Save
8.Tap the icon for the computer you want to access

Splashtop
1. Install the Splashtop app from the App Store
2. Set up Splashtop Streamer on your computer
3. Log in to your Splashtop account
4. Open the Splashtop app on your iPhone and click on the computer you
want to access

I ended up using "" on both Android & iPhone to Windows so I added the
Android newsgroup so that they can benefit from the hell that happened.

Thanks for that advice, where this is a classic case of the wrong app for
the job but I didn't arrive at that epiphany until I had spent a few hours making it work - and only then - did I realize it doesn't actually work. :)
<https://aka.ms/rdsetup>

You'd think PC Magazine is reputable, so I followed their instructions.
*How to Remotely Access a PC From Your iPhone or Android Device*
<https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/access-a-pc-from-your-iphone-or-android-device>

The steps seem simple enough - which was what so devilishly seductive:
a. Set up Microsoft Remote Desktop on Windows (it's native in Windows 10)
b. Set up your router for port forwarding (Microsoft default is port 3389)
c. Set up the remote device to log into your Windows PC over the Internet

A few problems related to me (the host computer) & them (the remote iPad):
1. You can't let them log into a Windows account without a password
2. So you have to create a new dummy account with a password just for them
3. Even then, if you don't have much space, you have to clean up your HDD

Once you get a dummy account set up on Windows using Native tools
Win+I > System > Remote Desktop > Enable Remote Desktop = turn it on
Advanced Settings > uncheck "Require computers to use Network Level
Authentication to connect (recommended)"

I have been on Windows since Windows 95 days and I never ran into that word
so maybe someone here can tell me what it means to use "Network Level Authentication" since I wanted to make this easy to I unchecked it.
<https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/clients/remote-desktop-allow-access>

Now you talk your friend who is on an iPhone how to use your computer
screen, you think - but in the end - you can't do that with Microsoft
Remote Desktop software which isn't even called Microsoft Remote Desktop.

So when they search for it, they tell you it's not on the Apple App Store.
And it's not. Because it's called something else. *Windows App Mobile* (formerly known as Microsoft Remote Desktop)
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/windows-app-mobile/id714464092>

Nothing works for this person - where they're Apple users - so they can't
even find the app they just installed so we go through a few iterations
before she can find it - but finally she finds it and still nothing works.

Anyone who says "it just works" on iOS maybe was a marketing person.
Anyway, it just doesn't work for her so I grab the Android app to test it.
*Remote Desktop*, by Microsoft Corporation (different name, go figure)
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.rdc.androidx>

Even though the Android app is on the same LAN as the desktop PC that I
want to share the screen of, "Remote Desktop" tries to connect given only
the (static) WAN address of my router's incoming connection & the username
to log in as (which is my username & which has no password as I don't live
in teh slums & as a result, I don't understand people who do live in slums
who are afraid of everyone around them to the point that they need them).

It won't work with Android either - but I see the error. Microsoft Remote Desktop (aka Windows App Mobile) won't connect to a PC without a password.

Aurgh. So I log out of my account on Windows & log into the Administrator account and create a new account for the remote user that has a password.

It still doesn't work. This time it want's me to grant permission (which is
no problem) but it also wants to kick me out even though I'm NOT logged in
as that user. I'm still Administrator in fact. But it kicks me out anyway.

Huh? Well, she logs in, but now on her tiny iPhone is my Windows screen of
an account I never log into so it's foreign even to me so I test it myself
on Android and I agree with her that it puts her into my Windows PC.

But get this...
It apparently requires EXCLUSIVE complete and total access to that PC!

You can't do ANYTHING on that PC (other than grant that person permission
to log into that PC as a user with a password). But you can't even SEE your screen as she has complete and total control over your PC from her iPhone.

I couldn't believe this so I tested it with my Android (which kicked HER
off the connection) and indeed, only one entity in the world at any given
time has complete and total control over that PC (which wasn't what I
wanted). I just had wanted to share my desktop with her over the Internet.

In summary, besides the fact I still need to find a way for her to share my desktop without me having to create an account on someone's server on the Internet, I did find an interesting way to COMPLETELY TAKE OVER someone's
PC without having to create an account on someone's server on the net.

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