• Fw: [rt.torproject.org #335978] Feedback on Tails

    From mindstring@protonmail.com@21:1/5 to ebanam via RT on Thu Oct 24 02:40:01 2024
    Dear Debian,

    Now that Tails (which is based on Debian) and the Tor Project have merged, I sent the Tor Project an email (see below), pointing out that many people, for many years, have been hoping and waiting for Tails to work on mobile phones, and asking them to use
    their resources to make it happen. They pointed me to old Tails developer discussions which basically said they can't do it because Debian doesn't support phones well enough.

    As I understand, Tails used to be based on Ubuntu, and they switched to Debian because of the higher quality of its releases (ie, "it's ready when it's ready", not "it's ready on a certain date"). However, Ubuntu is developing a mobile version, and seems
    to understand that people want convergence between their desktop, laptop, and phone (ie, one small but powerful device which does everything).

    Please work on making that kind of convergence possible for OSes which are based directly on Debian.

    Best regards



    -------- Original Message --------
    On 07/10/2024 18:16, ebanam via RT <frontdesk@torproject.org> wrote:

    Hello,
    Thanks for reaching out but, unfortunately, Tails support for mobile phones is
    not in the works and we don't have a plan to support it. For some background
    on this please see these articles on the bug tracker,
    https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/tails/-/issues/6064
    https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/blueprints/-/wikis/handheld

    cheers,

    --

    ebanam

    Community Team, The Tor Project



    On Fri Oct 04 18:11:35 2024, mindstring@protonmail.com wrote:

    Dear Tor Project,

    Many people have been waiting many years for a version of Tails that works on mobile phones. Please use your resources to make that happen.

    Best regards




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  • From Danial Behzadi@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 24 15:40:01 2024
    You can already Install and use Debian on mobile phones: <https://wiki.debian.org/Mobian/>

    در ۰۰:۱۹:۱۹ +00:00:00 روز پنجشنبه، ۲۴ اكتبر
    ۲۴ at ۰۰:۱۹:۱۹ +00:00:00, mindstring@protonmail.com نوشته
    بود:
    Dear Debian,

    Now that Tails (which is based on Debian) and the Tor Project have
    merged, I sent the Tor Project an email (see below), pointing out
    that many people, for many years, have been hoping and waiting for
    Tails to work on mobile phones, and asking them to use their
    resources to make it happen. They pointed me to old Tails developer discussions which basically said they can't do it because Debian
    doesn't support phones well enough.

    As I understand, Tails used to be based on Ubuntu, and they switched
    to Debian because of the higher quality of its releases (ie, "it's
    ready when it's ready", not "it's ready on a certain date"). However,
    Ubuntu is developing a mobile version, and seems to understand that
    people want convergence between their desktop, laptop, and phone (ie,
    one small but powerful device which does everything).

    Please work on making that kind of convergence possible for OSes
    which are based directly on Debian.

    Best regards



    -------- Original Message --------
    On 07/10/2024 18:16, ebanam via RT <frontdesk@torproject.org <mailto:frontdesk@torproject.org>> wrote:

    Hello,
    Thanks for reaching out but, unfortunately, Tails support for
    mobile phones is
    not in the works and we don't have a plan to support it. For some
    background
    on this please see these articles on the bug tracker,
    <https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/tails/-/issues/6064>
    <https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/blueprints/-/wikis/handheld>

    cheers,

    --

    ebanam

    Community Team, The Tor Project



    On Fri Oct 04 18:11:35 2024, mindstring@protonmail.com
    <mailto:mindstring@protonmail.com> wrote:

    > Dear Tor Project,

    > Many people have been waiting many years for a version of Tails
    that works on mobile phones. Please use your resources to make that
    happen.

    > Best regards






    <div id="geary-body" dir="auto"><div>You can already Install and use Debian on mobile phones:&nbsp;<a href="https://wiki.debian.org/Mobian/">https://wiki.debian.org/Mobian/</a></div></div><div id="geary-quote" dir="auto"><br>در ۰۰:۱۹:۱۹ +00:00:00
    روز پنجشنبه، ۲۴ اكتبر ۲۴ at ۰۰:۱۹:۱۹ +00:00:00, mindstring@protonmail.com نوشته بود:<br><blockquote type="cite"><div class="plaintext" style="white-space: break-spaces;">Dear Debian,

    Now that Tails (which is based on Debian) and the Tor Project have merged, I sent the Tor Project an email (see below), pointing out that many people, for many years, have been hoping and waiting for Tails to work on mobile phones, and asking them to use
    their resources to make it happen. They pointed me to old Tails developer discussions which basically said they can't do it because Debian doesn't support phones well enough.

    As I understand, Tails used to be based on Ubuntu, and they switched to Debian because of the higher quality of its releases (ie, "it's ready when it's ready", not "it's ready on a certain date"). However, Ubuntu is developing a mobile version, and seems
    to understand that people want convergence between their desktop, laptop, and phone (ie, one small but powerful device which does everything).

    Please work on making that kind of convergence possible for OSes which are based directly on Debian.

    Best regards



    -------- Original Message --------
    On 07/10/2024 18:16, ebanam via RT &lt;<a href="mailto:frontdesk@torproject.org">frontdesk@torproject.org</a>&gt; wrote:

    <blockquote> Hello,
    Thanks for reaching out but, unfortunately, Tails support for mobile phones is
    not in the works and we don't have a plan to support it. For some background
    on this please see these articles on the bug tracker,
    <a href="https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/tails/-/issues/6064">https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/tails/-/issues/6064</a>
    <a href="https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/blueprints/-/wikis/handheld">https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/blueprints/-/wikis/handheld</a>

    cheers,

    --

    ebanam

    Community Team, The Tor Project



    On Fri Oct 04 18:11:35 2024, <a href="mailto:mindstring@protonmail.com">mindstring@protonmail.com</a> wrote:

    &gt; Dear Tor Project,

    &gt; Many people have been waiting many years for a version of Tails that works on mobile phones. Please use your resources to make that happen.

    &gt; Best regards



    </blockquote>
    </div></blockquote></div>

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  • From Jeremy Stanley@21:1/5 to mindstring@protonmail.com on Thu Oct 24 17:30:01 2024
    On 2024-10-24 00:19:19 +0000 (+0000), mindstring@protonmail.com wrote:
    [...]
    Please work on making that kind of convergence possible for OSes
    which are based directly on Debian.
    [...]

    I personally use a Purism Librem 5 phone which runs PureOS based
    directly on Debian, for example.
    --
    Jeremy Stanley

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