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On 2024-08-27, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
In the world of aviation, and that isn't such a small world, the standard is >> English. If there is a pilot in the area that requests all communications are
in English, then that is the rule, at least as I remember it. That way everyone
knows what everyone else is saying, and doing.
Interesting you bring that up. Not directly related to language, but the aviation world is now officially metric. It's just that for now, you are allowed to keep the current units for legacy purposes.
In the world of aviation, and that isn't such a small world, the standard is English. If there is a pilot in the area that requests all communications are
in English, then that is the rule, at least as I remember it. That way everyone
knows what everyone else is saying, and doing.
For the data, sure, it can be very important to have whatever is required. But
for the tag/token representing the data, not at all. Can you describe any situation where Ascii is not sufficient for a filename? And then there is the
issue of sorting.
On 28/08/2024 13:24, Simon Clubley wrote:
On 2024-08-27, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:The aviation world is not metric.
In the world of aviation, and that isn't such a small world, the standard is
English. If there is a pilot in the area that requests all communications are
in English, then that is the rule, at least as I remember it. That way everyone
knows what everyone else is saying, and doing.
Interesting you bring that up. Not directly related to language, but the
aviation world is now officially metric. It's just that for now, you are
allowed to keep the current units for legacy purposes.
In the UK we use feet for altitude, knots for speed, nautical miles for distance, HectoPascals (millibars) for pressure, and gallons (UK or US)
or litres for fuel
Hardly metric!
On 2024-08-28, Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> wrote:
On 28/08/2024 13:24, Simon Clubley wrote:
On 2024-08-27, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:The aviation world is not metric.
In the world of aviation, and that isn't such a small world, the standard is
English. If there is a pilot in the area that requests all communications are
in English, then that is the rule, at least as I remember it. That way everyone
knows what everyone else is saying, and doing.
Interesting you bring that up. Not directly related to language, but the >>> aviation world is now officially metric. It's just that for now, you are >>> allowed to keep the current units for legacy purposes.
Oh yes it most certainly is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Civil_Aviation_Organization#International_System_of_Units
In the UK we use feet for altitude, knots for speed, nautical miles for
distance, HectoPascals (millibars) for pressure, and gallons (UK or US)
or litres for fuel
Hardly metric!
Most of those are now considered to be legacy units. Read my comment
above again. :-)
Simon.
The aviation world is not metric.
In the UK we use feet for altitude, knots for speed, nautical miles for >distance, HectoPascals (millibars) for pressure, and gallons (UK or US)
or litres for fuel
Hardly metric!
For the record, I think it would be nice if the UK finally
completed the transition to purely metric for everything.
In article <van4uj$3fdl0$1@dont-email.me>, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley) wrote:
For the record, I think it would be nice if the UK finally
completed the transition to purely metric for everything.
Our recently ex-government held a consultation on reverting to Imperial
units for some consumer purposes. The response was very negative and the
idea was quietly abandoned.
On 2024-08-27, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
In the world of aviation, and that isn't such a small world, the standard is >> English. If there is a pilot in the area that requests all communications are
in English, then that is the rule, at least as I remember it. That way everyone
knows what everyone else is saying, and doing.
Interesting you bring that up. Not directly related to language, but the aviation world is now officially metric. It's just that for now, you are allowed to keep the current units for legacy purposes.
So, even in aviation, the world is moving away from the US way of doing things. :-)
For the record, I think it would be nice if the UK finally completed the transition to purely metric for everything. It's moving in the right direction but it is not yet there in important areas.
For the data, sure, it can be very important to have whatever is required. But
for the tag/token representing the data, not at all. Can you describe any >> situation where Ascii is not sufficient for a filename? And then there is the
issue of sorting.
If you live in a country other than the one called the US. :-)
I have already given some examples from Norway. What about Germany ? What
are they supposed to do with document filenames ? Restrict themselves for
the convenience of the US ?
What about Asian countries with all their different types of language
systems ?
Your question above is an example of a _very_ US-centric way of thinking.
On 2024-08-28, John Dallman <jgd@cix.co.uk> wrote:
In article <van4uj$3fdl0$1@dont-email.me>,
clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley) wrote:
For the record, I think it would be nice if the UK finally
completed the transition to purely metric for everything.
Our recently ex-government held a consultation on reverting to Imperial
units for some consumer purposes. The response was very negative and the
idea was quietly abandoned.
I saw that and it was a very nice thing to see it was so strongly rejected.
With one major exception (see below[*]), long distances are still in
miles, but smaller distances tend to be purely metric. For example, it is considered _very_ old fashioned by the people I interact with to say
a few yards instead of a few metres.
[*] That major exception are the Ordnance Survey maps. In a remarkable
piece of foresight very uncommon in this country, the OS finished the conversion of all maps from imperial to metric units decades ago.
All OS maps today are purely metric. The OS coordinate system is also
purely metric and is _very_ nice to work with.