• Out of sync Events

    From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to All on Tue Oct 1 22:00:21 2024
    Ok, here is a strange one..

    I have my 16bit door maint setup to run at 0145 every day, noticed it ran at 2145 tonight..

    synchronet 9:46 PM srvc 0219 ActiveUser-UDP [40.136.248.88] Hostname: h88.248.136.40.dynamic.ip.windstream.net
    synchronet 9:46 PM srvc 0219 ActiveUser-UDP [40.136.248.88] Connection accepted on 192.168.1.5 port 11 from port 54194
    synchronet 9:45 PM evnt DOORMAINT Running 16-bit DOS timed event: DOORMAINT synchronet 9:45 PM srvc 0218 ActiveUser-UDP [40.136.248.88] JavaScript service thread terminated (1 clients remain, 21 total, 945 served)
    synchronet 9:45 PM srvc 0218 ActiveUser-UDP [40.136.248.88] Hostname: h88.248.136.40.dynamic.ip.windstream.net

    Any idea whats up with that??

    It's not running late either, it's running early because on the terminal output window it showed the date as 10/2. Here is Log entry Info:

    synchronet
    evnt DOORMAINT Running 16-bit DOS timed event: DOORMAINT

    PRIORITY
    6
    SYSLOG_FACILITY
    19
    SYSLOG_IDENTIFIER
    synchronet
    SYSLOG_TIMESTAMP
    Oct 2 01:45:40
    _AUDIT_LOGINUID
    1000
    _AUDIT_SESSION
    4
    _BOOT_ID
    56d7703cdf5e435fa99948983a51072d
    _CAP_EFFECTIVE
    1000400
    _CMDLINE
    ./sbbs unsbbs ugsbbs syslog
    _COMM
    sbbs
    _EXE
    /sbbs/exec/sbbs
    _GID
    1000
    _HOSTNAME
    kk4qbn.synchro.net
    _MACHINE_ID
    0992946d89884727ba463ead057bbf04
    _PID
    2005
    _RUNTIME_SCOPE
    system
    _SOURCE_REALTIME_TIMESTAMP
    1727833540341879
    _SYSTEMD_CGROUP
    /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/app.slice/app-dbus\x2d:1.2\x2 dorg.gnome.Console.slice/vte-spawn-8567f468-c65f-4b65-957e-098308a2523f.scope _SYSTEMD_INVOCATION_ID
    0f1b39d1a1994072aa2cf181437588eb
    _SYSTEMD_OWNER_UID
    1000
    _SYSTEMD_SLICE
    user-1000.slice
    _SYSTEMD_UNIT
    user@1000.service
    _SYSTEMD_USER_SLICE
    app-dbus\x2d:1.2\x2dorg.gnome.Console.slice
    _SYSTEMD_USER_UNIT
    vte-spawn-8567f468-c65f-4b65-957e-098308a2523f.scope
    _TRANSPORT
    syslog
    _UID
    1000
    __CURSOR
    s=23d599b81f974f51971f77baee16be3e;i=5cb2bb;b=56d7703cdf5e435fa99948983a510 72d;m=a102e42c6;t=62374986730b2;x=70f98e7689737f5c
    __MONOTONIC_TIMESTAMP
    43221140166
    __REALTIME_TIMESTAMP
    1727833540341938
    __SEQNUM
    6075067
    __SEQNUM_ID
    23d599b81f974f51971f77baee16be3e

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  • From nelgin@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Wed Oct 2 12:57:49 2024
    On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 22:00:21 -0400
    "kk4qbn" (VERT/KK4QBN) <VERT/KK4QBN!kk4qbn@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

    Ok, here is a strange one..

    I have my 16bit door maint setup to run at 0145 every day, noticed it
    ran at 2145 tonight..

    synchronet 9:46 PM srvc 0219 ActiveUser-UDP [40.136.248.88] Hostname: h88.248.136.40.dynamic.ip.windstream.net
    synchronet 9:46 PM srvc 0219 ActiveUser-UDP [40.136.248.88]
    Connection accepted on 192.168.1.5 port 11 from port 54194
    synchronet 9:45 PM evnt DOORMAINT Running 16-bit DOS timed event:
    DOORMAINT synchronet 9:45 PM srvc 0218 ActiveUser-UDP [40.136.248.88] JavaScript service thread terminated (1 clients remain, 21 total, 945
    served) synchronet 9:45 PM srvc 0218 ActiveUser-UDP [40.136.248.88]
    Hostname: h88.248.136.40.dynamic.ip.windstream.net

    Any idea whats up with that??

    It's not running late either, it's running early because on the
    terminal output window it showed the date as 10/2. Here is Log entry
    Info:

    synchronet
    evnt DOORMAINT Running 16-bit DOS timed event: DOORMAINT

    Do you have "Exclusive Execution" set to yes or something like that?
    Maybe you can post your scfg settings for the timed events and I can
    compare to mine.

    Actually, this is mine if you want to compare.

    [DOSMAINT Timed Event]
    1: Internal Code DOSMAINT
    2: Start-up Directory ../xtrn/dosutils
    3: Command Line maint.bat
    4: Enabled Yes
    5: Execution Node Any
    6: Execution Months Any
    7: Execution Days of Month Any
    8: Execution Days of Week All
    9: Execution Time 00:00
    10: Requires Exclusive Exec No
    11: Force Users Off-line No
    12: Native Executable/Script No
    13: Use Shell or New Context No
    14: Background Execution No
    15: Always Run After (re)Init No
    16: Error Log Level Debug


    As you can probably tell, this will run the bat script until dosemu
    rather than calling a linux script that calls dosemu for each game that requires maintenance.
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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to nelgin on Wed Oct 2 14:35:00 2024
    nelgin wrote to kk4qbn <=-

    Ok, here is a strange one..

    I have my 16bit door maint setup to run at 0145 every day, noticed it
    ran at 2145 tonight..

    synchronet 9:46 PM srvc 0219 ActiveUser-UDP [40.136.248.88] Hostname: h88.248.136.40.dynamic.ip.windstream.net
    synchronet 9:46 PM srvc 0219 ActiveUser-UDP [40.136.248.88]
    Connection accepted on 192.168.1.5 port 11 from port 54194
    synchronet 9:45 PM evnt DOORMAINT Running 16-bit DOS timed event:
    DOORMAINT synchronet 9:45 PM srvc 0218 ActiveUser-UDP [40.136.248.88] JavaScript service thread terminated (1 clients remain, 21 total, 945 served) synchronet 9:45 PM srvc 0218 ActiveUser-UDP [40.136.248.88] Hostname: h88.248.136.40.dynamic.ip.windstream.net

    Any idea whats up with that??

    It's not running late either, it's running early because on the
    terminal output window it showed the date as 10/2. Here is Log entry
    Info:

    synchronet
    evnt DOORMAINT Running 16-bit DOS timed event: DOORMAINT

    Do you have "Exclusive Execution" set to yes or something like that?
    Maybe you can post your scfg settings for the timed events and I can compare to mine.

    Actually, this is mine if you want to compare.

    [DOSMAINT Timed Event]
    1: Internal Code DOSMAINT
    2: Start-up Directory ../xtrn/dosutils
    3: Command Line maint.bat
    4: Enabled Yes
    5: Execution Node Any
    6: Execution Months Any
    7: Execution Days of Month Any
    8: Execution Days of Week All
    9: Execution Time 00:00
    10: Requires Exclusive Exec No
    11: Force Users Off-line No
    12: Native Executable/Script No
    13: Use Shell or New Context No
    14: Background Execution No
    15: Always Run After (re)Init No
    16: Error Log Level Debug


    As you can probably tell, this will run the bat script until dosemu
    rather than calling a linux script that calls dosemu for each game that requires maintenance.

    I am also struggling with this (maint for dos doors) a bit... Would
    you mind posting your 'maint.bat' file also (or at least a bit of it)?

    Also, was the word "until" in your paragraph above a typo? Should that
    be "within" or something? Trying to understand the flow of things.

    Thanks.



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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to nelgin on Wed Oct 2 17:00:44 2024
    Re: Re: Out of sync Events
    By: nelgin to kk4qbn on Wed Oct 02 2024 12:57:49

    Do you have "Exclusive Execution" set to yes or something like that? Maybe you can post your scfg settings for the timed events and I can compare to mine.

    Nope, It's set to no, would'nt that just force everyone off to run the event though if it was set to yes??

    Actually, this is mine if you want to compare.

    [DOSMAINT Timed Event]
    1: Internal Code DOSMAINT
    2: Start-up Directory ../xtrn/dosutils 3: Command Line
    maint.bat
    4: Enabled Yes
    5: Execution Node Any
    6: Execution Months Any
    7: Execution Days of Month Any
    8: Execution Days of Week All
    9: Execution Time 00:00
    10: Requires Exclusive Exec No
    11: Force Users Off-line No
    12: Native Executable/Script No
    13: Use Shell or New Context No
    14: Background Execution No
    15: Always Run After (re)Init No
    16: Error Log Level Debug

    I do beleive mine is exactly the same.. or close.

    │Internal Code DOORMAINT
    │Start-up Directory /sbbs/xtrn/maint
    │Command Line maint.bat
    │Enabled Yes
    │Execution Node Any
    │Execution Months Any
    │Execution Days of Month Any
    │Execution Days of Week All
    │Execution Time 01:00
    │Requires Exclusive Exec No
    │Force Users Off-line Yes
    │Native Executable/Script No
    │Use Shell or New Context Yes
    │Background Execution No
    │Always Run After (re)Init No
    │Error Log Level Notice

    and I see I have it set to 0100 not 0145.. definatly not 2145 the day before :)

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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Wed Oct 2 17:08:55 2024
    Re: Re: Out of sync Events
    By: Gamgee to nelgin on Wed Oct 02 2024 14:35:00

    I am also struggling with this (maint for dos doors) a bit... Would you mind posting your 'maint.bat' file also (or at least a bit of it)?


    I run dosemu and I think you guys use dosemu2, dont know for sure, but here are some of the games out of my maint.bat "which runs well, if on time :-)"

    REM FOODFITE
    echo foodfite >>e:\maint\maint.log
    time /T >>e:\maint\maint.log
    chdir ..\ff
    ffbull.exe foodfite.cfg
    chdir ..\maint

    REM freshwater fishing
    echo freshwater fishing >>e:\maint\maint.log
    time /T >>e:\maint\maint.log
    chdir ..\ffs
    fishmant.exe
    chdir ..\maint

    REM avatars screaming steel
    echo avatars screaming steel >>e:\maint\maint.log
    time /T >>e:\maint\maint.log
    chdir ..\aoss
    avtmaint.exe
    chdir ..\maint
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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to nelgin on Wed Oct 2 17:10:40 2024
    Re: Re: Out of sync Events
    By: kk4qbn to nelgin on Wed Oct 02 2024 17:00:44

    13: Use Shell or New Context No

    I see I have that set to YES on mine, I'll change that and see what happens tonight..
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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to kk4qbn on Wed Oct 2 16:57:00 2024
    kk4qbn wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: Out of sync Events
    By: Gamgee to nelgin on Wed Oct 02 2024 14:35:00

    I am also struggling with this (maint for dos doors) a bit... Would you mind posting your 'maint.bat' file also (or at least a bit of it)?

    I run dosemu and I think you guys use dosemu2, dont know for sure, but here are some of the games out of my maint.bat "which runs well, if on time :-)"

    REM FOODFITE
    echo foodfite >>e:\maint\maint.log
    time /T >>e:\maint\maint.log
    chdir ..\ff
    ffbull.exe foodfite.cfg
    chdir ..\maint

    I'm also running original dosemu... Will experiment with this a bit
    when I get some time.

    Thanks.



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  • From nelgin@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Wed Oct 2 21:51:50 2024
    Re: Re: Out of sync Events
    By: Gamgee to nelgin on Wed Oct 02 2024 14:35:00

    Also, was the word "until" in your paragraph above a typo? Should that
    be "within" or something? Trying to understand the flow of things.

    Probably. That happens when I'm multitasking and I hear a word someone is saying or in some music and just write that instead of what I'm thinking :)

    my maint.bat is nothing special, just whatever the game wants

    e:
    cd \tw2002
    extern MULTITASK=NO
    cd \shuffle
    shufword shuffle.cfg /E
    cd \godcrime
    maint
    cd \arcesc
    maint
    cd \yankee
    YTMAINT.EXE
    cd \wheel
    WOFMAINT WHEEL.CFG /EVENT
    cd \crypto
    CRYPENVT CRYPTO.CFG
    cd \trivia
    trivmant trivia.cfg /event=y
    cd \legends
    LOOMAINT /M
    cd \colonies
    COLMAINT.EXE
    cd \gangland
    GWMAINT
    cd \pentasim
    PMAINT.EXE
    cd \lis
    LISMAINT.EXE
    cd \rocktriv
    ROCMAINT.EXE
    cd \hexxwars
    HEXMAINT.EXE 3 5
    cd \4corners
    4CORNMNT.EXE 4 5
    cd \camptown
    maint.exe
    cd \yank
    maint.exe /pg /l
    exitemu

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  • From nelgin@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Wed Oct 2 21:57:32 2024
    Re: Re: Out of sync Events
    By: kk4qbn to nelgin on Wed Oct 02 2024 17:00:44

    Nope, It's set to no, would'nt that just force everyone off to run the event though if it was set to yes??

    Possibly, unless the sysop is on, I think it gives you like an hour and a half.

    Aug 4 06:32:50 bbs synchronet: evnt MSGMAINT Waiting for node 1 (status=3)
    Aug 4 06:33:00 bbs synchronet: evnt MSGMAINT Waiting for node 1 (status=3)
    Aug 4 06:33:10 bbs synchronet: evnt MSGMAINT Waiting for node 1 (status=3)
    Aug 4 06:33:10 bbs synchronet: evnt MSGMAINT !TIRED of waiting for node 1 to become inactive (status=3), closing socket 27


    But you'd also know about it. I'm not sure if that value is configurable or not. It was just a thought.

    You do have your set to log users off. What if you turn of that off for testing?

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Thu Oct 3 00:13:12 2024
    Re: Out of sync Events
    By: kk4qbn to All on Tue Oct 01 2024 10:00 pm

    Ok, here is a strange one..

    I have my 16bit door maint setup to run at 0145 every day, noticed it ran at 2145 tonight..

    synchronet 9:45 PM evnt DOORMAINT Running 16-bit DOS timed event: DOORMAINT

    Any idea whats up with that??

    It's not running late either, it's running early because on the terminal output window it showed the date as 10/2. Here is Log entry Info:

    synchronet
    evnt DOORMAINT Running 16-bit DOS timed event: DOORMAINT

    PRIORITY
    6
    SYSLOG_FACILITY
    19
    SYSLOG_IDENTIFIER
    synchronet
    SYSLOG_TIMESTAMP
    Oct 2 01:45:40

    That time seems to be the expected time. Maybe whatever is formatting that time for the log text isn't accounting for timezone offset?
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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to nelgin on Thu Oct 3 07:24:25 2024
    Re: Re: Out of sync Events
    By: nelgin to kk4qbn on Wed Oct 02 2024 21:57:32

    You do have your set to log users off. What if you turn of that off for testing?

    Yeah, I did hange that, it appears it ran exactly on time this morning, I'll keep an eye on it and see what happens
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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Thu Oct 3 07:40:16 2024
    Re: Out of sync Events
    By: Digital Man to kk4qbn on Thu Oct 03 2024 00:13:12

    That time seems to be the expected time. Maybe whatever is formatting that time for the log text isn't accounting for timezone offset?

    Why would it run it early though? If the expected time was 10/2 at 0100
    (I had errantly posted that I had it configured for 0145 because of that)

    I dunno, maybe it was a missed event or something, but that was the only thing that ran at that time, and on the terminal server output it showed just like
    it was that time and date, it went from 10/1 945pm to 10/2 0145, and I watched the event run, then it went back to the time it was supposed to be..

    I either warped to the future, or I'm tripping or something (no that was a joke)

    If something was stuck with the bbs (happens sometimes) and the event was running late it would say that it was the next days event would it?

    I'm going to see if I can dig up the terminal server output somewhere, because yea i'ts not showing correctly on the cockpit formatted logs.
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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to nelgin on Thu Oct 3 07:53:00 2024
    nelgin wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: Out of sync Events
    By: Gamgee to nelgin on Wed Oct 02 2024 14:35:00

    Also, was the word "until" in your paragraph above a typo? Should that
    be "within" or something? Trying to understand the flow of things.

    Probably. That happens when I'm multitasking and I hear a word someone
    is saying or in some music and just write that instead of what I'm thinking :)

    my maint.bat is nothing special, just whatever the game wants

    e:
    cd \tw2002
    extern MULTITASK=NO
    cd \shuffle
    shufword shuffle.cfg /E

    <SNIP>

    Okay, cool. Thank you.



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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Thu Oct 3 16:17:21 2024
    Re: Out of sync Events
    By: kk4qbn to Digital Man on Thu Oct 03 2024 07:40 am

    Re: Out of sync Events
    By: Digital Man to kk4qbn on Thu Oct 03 2024 00:13:12

    That time seems to be the expected time. Maybe whatever is formatting that time for the log text isn't accounting for timezone offset?

    Why would it run it early though? If the expected time was 10/2 at 0100
    (I had errantly posted that I had it configured for 0145 because of that

    If it ran at 0145 instead of 0100, that would be *late* not early. Why would it? Because another event was running possibly.

    If something was stuck with the bbs (happens sometimes) and the event was running late it would say that it was the next days event would it?

    I'm not sure what you're referring to here.

    I'm going to see if I can dig up the terminal server output somewhere, because yea i'ts not showing correctly on the cockpit formatted logs.

    Okay, good luck!
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Thu Oct 3 17:26:14 2024
    Re: Out of sync Events
    By: Digital Man to kk4qbn on Thu Oct 03 2024 04:17 pm

    If something was stuck with the bbs (happens sometimes) and the event was
    running late it would say that it was the next days event would it?

    I'm not sure what you're referring to here.

    I think he might be referring to exclusive events that get stuck and don't finish, which could push other events to run later than they normally are configured to run.

    Nightfox

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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Thu Oct 3 20:49:28 2024
    Re: Out of sync Events
    By: kk4qbn to Digital Man on Thu Oct 03 2024 07:40 am

    If it ran at 0145 instead of 0100, that would be *late* not early. Why would it? Because another event was running possibly.

    It did'nt run at 0145, it ran at 2145, the day before.

    at 945pm on 10/1 the event ran and it showed 10/2 as the date. on the terminal service window. it does'nt show the date change on the copilot formatted logs though.
    But this is how the terminal services window looked when it ran other then scrolling from up to down instead of down/up

    10/01 9:46 PM srvc 0219 ActiveUser-UDP [40.136.248.88] Hostname: h88.248.136.40.dynamic.ip.windstream.net
    10/01 9:46 PM srvc 0219 ActiveUser-UDP [40.136.248.88] Connection accepted on 192.168.1.5 port 11 from port 54194
    10/02 9:45 PM evnt DOORMAINT Running 16-bit DOS timed event: DOORMAINT
    10/01 9:45 PM srvc 0218 ActiveUser-UDP [40.136.248.88] JavaScript service thread terminated (1 clients remain, 21 total, 945 served)
    10/01 9:45 PM srvc 0218 ActiveUser-UDP [40.136.248.88] Hostname: h88.248.136.40.dynamic.ip.windstream.net


    I'm not sure what you're referring to here.

    I'm afraid now that it is logging through syslog I cannot get the log formatted like it was on the terminal service.. either way it appeared as if it was running a future event instead of running it late, that is what I was referring to. it really does'nt matter, It just looked off to me, probably operator error.. some way..

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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to All on Thu Oct 3 21:16:26 2024
    This is the Journal entry for that event, and the terminal window did show 10/2 Check the Syslog Timestamp, and notice when the entry was made


    Logs

    Entry at Oct 1, 2024, 9:45:40 PM

    synchronet
    evnt DOORMAINT Running 16-bit DOS timed event: DOORMAINT

    PRIORITY
    6
    SYSLOG_FACILITY
    19
    SYSLOG_IDENTIFIER
    synchronet
    SYSLOG_TIMESTAMP
    Oct 2 01:45:40 <---------------------
    _AUDIT_LOGINUID
    1000
    _AUDIT_SESSION
    4
    _BOOT_ID
    56d7703cdf5e435fa99948983a51072d
    _CAP_EFFECTIVE
    1000400
    _CMDLINE
    ./sbbs unsbbs ugsbbs syslog
    _COMM
    sbbs
    _EXE
    /sbbs/exec/sbbs
    _GID
    1000
    _HOSTNAME
    kk4qbn.synchro.net
    _MACHINE_ID
    0992946d89884727ba463ead057bbf04
    _PID
    2005
    _RUNTIME_SCOPE
    system
    _SOURCE_REALTIME_TIMESTAMP
    1727833540341879

    I mean, It really does'nt matter, I just knew I wasn't tripping when it started running but it was running for 10/2, not 10/1 but it was 0945pm 10/1


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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thu Oct 3 21:33:53 2024
    Re: Out of sync Events
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Oct 03 2024 05:26 pm

    Re: Out of sync Events
    By: Digital Man to kk4qbn on Thu Oct 03 2024 04:17 pm

    If something was stuck with the bbs (happens sometimes) and the event was
    running late it would say that it was the next days event would it?

    I'm not sure what you're referring to here.

    I think he might be referring to exclusive events that get stuck and don't finish, which could push other events to run later than they normally are configured to run.

    But there's nothing that says it's the "next days event" that I'm aware of. That's the part I'm referring to which I don't know what he's talking about.
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Thu Oct 3 21:35:28 2024
    Re: Out of sync Events
    By: kk4qbn to Digital Man on Thu Oct 03 2024 08:49 pm

    Re: Out of sync Events
    By: kk4qbn to Digital Man on Thu Oct 03 2024 07:40 am

    If it ran at 0145 instead of 0100, that would be *late* not early. Why would it? Because another event was running possibly.

    It did'nt run at 0145, it ran at 2145, the day before.

    Not accoding to the syslog details that pasted here.

    I'm afraid now that it is logging through syslog I cannot get the log formatted like it was on the terminal service.. either way it appeared as if it was running a future event instead of running it late, that is what I was referring to. it really does'nt matter, It just looked off to me, probably operator error.. some way..

    Okay, let me know if you continue to have a problem.
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  • From nelgin@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Fri Oct 4 00:45:48 2024
    Re: Out of sync Events
    By: kk4qbn to Digital Man on Thu Oct 03 2024 20:49:28


    I'm afraid now that it is logging through syslog I cannot get the log formatted like it was on the terminal service.. either way it appeared as if it was running a future event instead of running it late, that is what I was referring to. it really does'nt matter, It just looked off to me, probably operator error.. some way..

    Random, odd, unexplainable stuff happens from time to time and it's annoying, especially when you know it happened but you cannot get it to happen again and it just doesn't make sense.

    I have a rsyslog.d config file that helps split logs for each function of the bbs into a separate file, such as mail, ftp, web, term, events, services, and "other stuff" I can dig out. It might be a good start to format the logs how you want them, it also helps debugging because you're not trying to look through one big log.

    No sure if your copilot stuff does that, never used it, but if it's of interest I'll dig it out.

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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to nelgin on Fri Oct 4 03:53:59 2024
    Re: Out of sync Events
    By: nelgin to kk4qbn on Fri Oct 04 2024 00:45:48

    I'm afraid now that it is logging through syslog I cannot get the log
    formatted like it was on the terminal service.. either way it appeared as
    if it was running a future event instead of running it late, that is what I
    Random, odd, unexplainable stuff happens from time to time and it's annoying, especially when you know it happened but you cannot get it to happen again and it just doesn't make sense.

    Thats true, It does..

    I have a rsyslog.d config file that helps split logs for each function of the bbs into a separate file, such as mail, ftp, web, term, events, services, and "other stuff" I can dig out. It might be a good start to format the logs how you want them, it also helps debugging because you're not trying to look through one big log.

    Yes, that could be some help, I mean sbbs technically "Should" be writing to /var/log/sbbs.log but there's nothing there. and I cannot find where cockpit has it saved, I presume it's grabbing it straight from the log stream and saving it somewhere.

    I have no idea why it's not saving ANY logfile to /var/log. it *should* be. So yeah, I'd appreciate it if you could dig them up when you get the time.

    There are some differences in the way manjaro does some of its stuff, but not too much to where it should create an issue.. it would at least help me to figure out whats up with it.

    I have a hard time actually trying to speak what I mean when explaining stuff, and when tecnical issues come up, like term windows not allowing copy/paste it mmakes it worse :-)
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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Fri Oct 4 07:43:00 2024
    kk4qbn wrote to All <=-

    I mean, It really does'nt matter, I just knew I wasn't tripping when it started running but it was running for 10/2, not 10/1 but it was 0945pm 10/1

    Could it just be that the BBS machine's time (or TIME ZONE) is set
    wrong? Sometimes the easiest answer is the correct one... ;-)



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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Fri Oct 4 07:49:00 2024
    kk4qbn wrote to nelgin <=-

    Yes, that could be some help, I mean sbbs technically "Should" be
    writing to /var/log/sbbs.log but there's nothing there. and I cannot
    find where cockpit has it saved, I presume it's grabbing it straight
    from the log stream and saving it somewhere.

    I have no idea why it's not saving ANY logfile to /var/log. it *should* be. So yeah, I'd appreciate it if you could dig them up when you get
    the time.

    I'm not certain that SBBS will log to /var/log/sbbs.log by default. I
    had to modify my /etc/syslog.conf to make it do that.

    This is documented here: https://wiki.synchro.net/config:nix#logging



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  • From nelgin@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Fri Oct 4 12:38:23 2024
    Re: Out of sync Events
    By: kk4qbn to nelgin on Fri Oct 04 2024 03:53:59

    I have no idea why it's not saving ANY logfile to /var/log. it *should* be. So yeah, I'd appreciate it if you could dig them up when you get the time.

    Maybe this would explain it?

    https://forum.manjaro.org/t/no-var-log-messages/131562

    Maybe syslogd isn't installed/running?

    https://www.endofthelinebbs.com/syslog.txt

    This explains what I did to get separate log files, but you may have to get syslogd working first. This works OK on Ubuntu.

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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Fri Oct 4 20:01:59 2024
    Re: Re: Out of sync Events
    By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Fri Oct 04 2024 07:43:00

    I mean, It really does'nt matter, I just knew I wasn't tripping when it
    started running but it was running for 10/2, not 10/1 but it was 0945pm
    10/1

    Could it just be that the BBS machine's time (or TIME ZONE) is set wrong? Sometimes the easiest answer is the correct one... ;-)

    That could be a possiblily there is a 4 hour difference there, But it would have had to jump from edt to pdt in a total of a just a couple seconds then jump back because that is how quick it happened.. ghost in the machine or more than likely just user error that I have'nt found yet.. It has been running at 0100 every morning just like it suppose to every morning.. but that one night it just decided that at 2145 the time was 0145 the next day and that it hasnt ran door maint yet, so it ran it, then went back to 2145.. <shrug>
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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Fri Oct 4 20:03:32 2024
    Re: Re: Out of sync Events
    By: Gamgee to kk4qbn on Fri Oct 04 2024 07:49:00

    I have no idea why it's not saving ANY logfile to /var/log. it *should*
    be. So yeah, I'd appreciate it if you could dig them up when you get the
    time.

    I'm not certain that SBBS will log to /var/log/sbbs.log by default. I had to modify my /etc/syslog.conf to make it do that.

    No, it does'nt and I have modified syslog.conf, then touched /var/log/sbbs.log with the correct permissions, rebooted.. still no go..

    This is documented here: https://wiki.synchro.net/config:nix#logging

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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to nelgin on Fri Oct 4 20:09:59 2024
    Re: Out of sync Events
    By: nelgin to kk4qbn on Fri Oct 04 2024 12:38:23

    Maybe this would explain it?

    Yep, explains it all.. should have known that.. and good to know for the future, will be a waste of time to expend anymore time to this lol.. it is working, it's been running maint every morning from what I can see, just that one time it ran out of place and it was just strange..

    Maybe syslogd isn't installed/running?

    Thats correct, and I knew it used the journal but it really did'nt hit me at the time, I'm used to mostly debian based distros, so I'm still learning.
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  • From Grease@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Mon Oct 28 17:04:32 2024
    Re: Re: Out of sync Events
    By: kk4qbn to nelgin on Wed Oct 02 2024 05:00 pm

    and I see I have it set to 0100 not 0145.. definatly not 2145 the day before :)

    Just shotgunning, but daylight saving time in/off?
    Software time and Bios time different?

    I've had issues with that on other stuff.

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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to Grease on Tue Oct 29 08:53:23 2024
    Re: Re: Out of sync Events
    By: Grease to kk4qbn on Mon Oct 28 2024 17:04:32

    Re: Re: Out of sync Events
    By: kk4qbn to nelgin on Wed Oct 02 2024 05:00 pm

    and I see I have it set to 0100 not 0145.. definatly not 2145 the day
    before :)

    Just shotgunning, but daylight saving time in/off? Software time and Bios time different?

    This was many moons ago, but went through all of that.. I cannot remember wht the outcome was, it hasnt happened again thats all that matters.
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