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Bookworm prompts freqently, sometimes daily, that updates are available.
If I click the install button the machine does its gymnastics and says everything is up to date. At least outwardly, no change is apparent.
Somewhere around noon the next day I _do_ notice changes. Usually
it's in the form of some mischief; YouTube stops working right,
WiFi stops working right, something like that. Occasionally, an
existing misfeature dissapears, ie, YouTube works better, etc.
Am I mistaken? At least about the overnight delay?
Somewhere I got the idea that modern Linux systems don't need to
reboot except for a kernel change. Is that correct? I've never
seen a prompt to reboot, nor an automatic reboot, on RasPiOS.
Bookworm prompts freqently, sometimes daily, that updates are available.
If I click the install button the machine does its gymnastics and says everything is up to date. At least outwardly, no change is apparent.
Somewhere around noon the next day I_do_ notice changes. Usually
it's in the form of some mischief; YouTube stops working right,
WiFi stops working right, something like that. Occasionally, an
existing misfeature dissapears, ie, YouTube works better, etc.
Am I mistaken? At least about the overnight delay?
Somewhere I got the idea that modern Linux systems don't need to
reboot except for a kernel change. Is that correct? I've never
seen a prompt to reboot, nor an automatic reboot, on RasPiOS.
Somewhere I got the idea that modern Linux systems don't need to
reboot except for a kernel change.
Is that correct? I've never seen a prompt to reboot, nor an
automatic reboot, on RasPiOS.
On 05/11/2025 03:05, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
Bookworm prompts freqently, sometimes daily, that updates are available.
If I click the install button the machine does its gymnastics and says
everything is up to date. At least outwardly, no change is apparent.
Somewhere around noon the next day I _do_ notice changes. Usually
it's in the form of some mischief; YouTube stops working right,
WiFi stops working right, something like that. Occasionally, an
existing misfeature dissapears, ie, YouTube works better, etc.
Am I mistaken? At least about the overnight delay?
The Pixel desktop updater works in the background downloading and
applying the changes. Unless you have not done an update many months it should only take a couple of minutes, except if your WiFi is
exceptionally slow.
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
On 05/11/2025 03:05, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
Bookworm prompts freqently, sometimes daily, that updates are available. >>> If I click the install button the machine does its gymnastics and says
everything is up to date. At least outwardly, no change is apparent.
Somewhere around noon the next day I _do_ notice changes. Usually
it's in the form of some mischief; YouTube stops working right,
WiFi stops working right, something like that. Occasionally, an
existing misfeature dissapears, ie, YouTube works better, etc.
Am I mistaken? At least about the overnight delay?
The Pixel desktop updater works in the background downloading and
applying the changes. Unless you have not done an update many months
it should only take a couple of minutes, except if your WiFi is
exceptionally slow.
As a rule, the system(s) report "system is up to date" within a
few minutes. One of them is a Pi5 with wired ethernet. the other
is a Pi2 on WiFi.
How long might it take for services to restart
after that point on the machine with wired ethernet?
On 05/11/2025 23:57, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
As a rule, the system(s) report "system is up to date" within a
few minutes. One of them is a Pi5 with wired ethernet. the other
is a Pi2 on WiFi.
How long might it take for services to restart
after that point on the machine with wired ethernet?
They restart as the update is taking place.
Instead of using the desktop installer, next time pop up a terminal and
do a:-
sudo apt update
sudo apt full-upgrade -y
You'll then see all the information on what is doing going by, and when
you get the prompt back it is all done.
But as I said, something else is going wrong on your system. Is it chronically short of memory? If so just doing an update could cause something to be booted out of memory sometime later.
If you have that terminal still open do a:-
free -h