• SAVE Act

    From Joseph Pereira@1:124/5016 to All on Tue Feb 17 05:54:19 2026

    In the US, the SAVE Act has become law. You must show your birth certificate or passport to vote. This is very disadvantageous for women, because they almost always took their husband's surname, meaning their birth certificates are no longer valid. In the US, only 50% of residents have a passport. Women will therefore find out en masse that they cannot vote in November.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Joseph Pereira on Tue Feb 17 06:22:46 2026
    In the US, the SAVE Act has become law. You must show your birth certificate or passport to vote. This is very disadvantageous for women,

    Nope. Not yet. But keep looking for stuff to be angry about.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Joseph Pereira on Tue Feb 17 06:55:33 2026
    Joseph Pereira wrote to All <=-


    In the US, the SAVE Act has become law. You must show your birth certificate or passport to vote. This is very disadvantageous for
    women, because they almost always took their husband's surname, meaning their birth certificates are no longer valid. In the US, only 50% of residents have a passport. Women will therefore find out en masse that they cannot vote in November.

    It hasn't passed the senate yet, or been signed by Trump. While it is
    disingenuous in the sense that it doesn't solve a material problem
    (anyone, name a presidential election affected by illegal votes, or
    better yet, document the number of cases of votes by illegal aliens?)

    What it does do is pressure states to turn over voter rolls to DHS,
    something the courts have overruled. It disenfranchises women voters,
    as you've mentioned, and makes minorities in this country legally less
    likely to vote due to misinformation and fears.

    (And, you know ICE will be out in force at Blue election centers to
    lessen the threat that illegal voters pose)

    Poor people without proper documentation will be forced to pay for
    copies of birth certificates, a de facto poll tax.

    The Trump administration is closing down passport issuance at public
    libraries, because when you want to force people to use passports or
    other means of proof of citizenship, of course you MAKE IT HARDER TO
    US CITIZENS TO OBTAIN THOSE DOCUMENTS.

    And smug conservatives and MAGA respond with "I never had a problem
    showing ID at a gas station or grocery store..."

    Really? You've been asked to show PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP? No, you've been
    asked to show proof of age or proof of identity.

    It's all about disenfranchising voters. The administration has said as
    much!






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  • From Alexander Grotewohl@1:120/616 to Kurt Weiske on Tue Feb 17 13:01:19 2026
    On 17 Feb 2026, Kurt Weiske said the following...

    And smug conservatives and MAGA respond with "I never had a problem
    showing ID at a gas station or grocery store..."

    Really? You've been asked to show PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP? No, you've been
    asked to show proof of age or proof of identity.

    still mad everyone made fun of you on dovenet for that? ;)

    and anyways, to vote you have to show id. to REGISTER to vote you need your birth certificate. you're misrepresenting the conversation we had over there.

    something the courts have overruled. It disenfranchises women voters,
    as you've mentioned, and makes minorities in this country legally less
    likely to vote due to misinformation and fears.

    you've made quite the whopper of a mistake here. why are "minorities in this country legally" voting at all? if that wasn't your intended meaning, why are you calling Americans "minorities in this country legally"? wtf? do you proof read what your AI spits out?

    as far as women are concerned, the combination of a birth certificate and a marriage certificate is an established method of proving your identity. sites like this debunk the narrative that birth certificates *ever* need to be updated

    https://legalclarity.org/do-you-change-your-name-on-your-birth-certificate-afte r-marriage/

    "A birth certificate is a legal document that captures details as they existed when you were born."

    (And, you know ICE will be out in force at Blue election centers to
    lessen the threat that illegal voters pose)

    you already know that harassing voters is illegal. you also can't predict the future. are you fearmongering? are you sure you're not the one scaring people not to vote?

    The Trump administration is closing down passport issuance at public
    libraries, because when you want to force people to use passports or
    other means of proof of citizenship, of course you MAKE IT HARDER TO
    US CITIZENS TO OBTAIN THOSE DOCUMENTS.

    "The State Department noted that 99% of the U.S. population lives within 20 miles of a designated passport processing location, such as a post office, county clerk's office or government-run library authorized to accept in-person passport applications."

    it's funny, because PBS is very careful how they word their sad story:

    "In Joyce's rural, south-central Pennsylvania district, the Marysville-Rye Library is one of only two passport facilities serving the 556-square-mile Perry County, according to the letter to Rubio. Now the county courthouse will be the only remaining option."

    i looked and this library is in a lovely single family home neighborhood, surrounded by woods and far away from the poor. and the "only remaining option"? 15 minutes south in their actual city.

    ...

    and in the end all of this is pointless anyways. because you can guarantee every single state that hates it so much will immediately bend over backwards to make all of this easier (and probably free). this is why you don't want to freak out about everything you hear.

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