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I've had a quick search, but no luck so far.
Suppose that you observe/are involved in an incident which justifies a 999 call.
It seems logical with a modern mobile phone that you could contact the emergency services then send your precise location using What3Words, then send a picture of the incident.
Can this be easily done within the average phone app and received by the emergency call handler?
Or do you have to start one or more further apps, such as WhatsApp, to eventually achieve this.
I feel that one app should be able to do all this, but can't initially
find it.
Alternatively, can you make an emergency call from WhatApp?
Cheers
Dave R
David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:references-.pdf
I've had a quick search, but no luck so far.Most modern mobile phones transmit their location during an emergency
Suppose that you observe/are involved in an incident which justifies a
999 call.
It seems logical with a modern mobile phone that you could contact the
emergency services then send your precise location using What3Words,
then send a picture of the incident.
Can this be easily done within the average phone app and received by
the emergency call handler?
Or do you have to start one or more further apps, such as WhatsApp, to
eventually achieve this.
I feel that one app should be able to do all this, but can't initially
find it.
Alternatively, can you make an emergency call from WhatApp?
Cheers
Dave R
call.
See
https://eena.org/our-work/eena-special-focus/advanced-mobile-location/
https://www.secamb.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/220805-FOI-AML-W3W-
IrCOm not sure that encouraging pictures to be sent is a good idea. It
will likely cause as many problems as it solves, eg encouraging the
caller to put themselves in danger.
David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
I've had a quick search, but no luck so far.
Suppose that you observe/are involved in an incident which justifies a 999 >> call.
It seems logical with a modern mobile phone that you could contact the
emergency services then send your precise location using What3Words, then
send a picture of the incident.
Can this be easily done within the average phone app and received by the
emergency call handler?
Or do you have to start one or more further apps, such as WhatsApp, to
eventually achieve this.
I feel that one app should be able to do all this, but can't initially
find it.
Alternatively, can you make an emergency call from WhatApp?
Cheers
Dave R
Most modern mobile phones transmit their location during an emergency call. See
https://eena.org/our-work/eena-special-focus/advanced-mobile-location/
On Sun, 05 Oct 2025 15:00:40 +0000, Tweed wrote:
David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:references-.pdf
I've had a quick search, but no luck so far.Most modern mobile phones transmit their location during an emergency
Suppose that you observe/are involved in an incident which justifies a
999 call.
It seems logical with a modern mobile phone that you could contact the
emergency services then send your precise location using What3Words,
then send a picture of the incident.
Can this be easily done within the average phone app and received by
the emergency call handler?
Or do you have to start one or more further apps, such as WhatsApp, to
eventually achieve this.
I feel that one app should be able to do all this, but can't initially
find it.
Alternatively, can you make an emergency call from WhatApp?
Cheers
Dave R
call.
See
https://eena.org/our-work/eena-special-focus/advanced-mobile-location/
https://www.secamb.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/220805-FOI-AML-W3W-
IrCOm not sure that encouraging pictures to be sent is a good idea. It
will likely cause as many problems as it solves, eg encouraging the
caller to put themselves in danger.
Geolocation by triangulating cell towers is not reliable.
Are you saying that the phone will send a GPS location?
Cheers
Dave R
I've had a quick search, but no luck so far.
Suppose that you observe/are involved in an incident which justifies a 999 call.
It seems logical with a modern mobile phone that you could contact the emergency services then send your precise location using What3Words, then send a picture of the incident.
Can this be easily done within the average phone app and received by the emergency call handler?
Or do you have to start one or more further apps, such as WhatsApp, to eventually achieve this.
I feel that one app should be able to do all this, but can't initially
find it.
Alternatively, can you make an emergency call from WhatApp?
IrCOm not sure that encouraging pictures to be sent is a good idea. It will likely cause as many problems as it solves, eg encouraging the caller to
put themselves in danger.
I've had a quick search, but no luck so far.
Suppose that you observe/are involved in an incident which justifies a 999 call.
It seems logical with a modern mobile phone that you could contact the emergency services then send your precise location using What3Words, then send a picture of the incident.
Can this be easily done within the average phone app and received by the emergency call handler?
Or do you have to start one or more further apps, such as WhatsApp, to eventually achieve this.
I feel that one app should be able to do all this, but can't initially
find it.
Alternatively, can you make an emergency call from WhatApp?
Cheers
Dave R
David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
I've had a quick search, but no luck so far.
Suppose that you observe/are involved in an incident which justifies a 999 >> call.
It seems logical with a modern mobile phone that you could contact the
emergency services then send your precise location using What3Words, then
send a picture of the incident.
Can this be easily done within the average phone app and received by the
emergency call handler?
I doubt it. It would require a huge revamp of the whole call handling
system to use some form messaging system that links correctly with the
caller that works for all phones.
David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
I've had a quick search, but no luck so far.
Suppose that you observe/are involved in an incident which justifies a 999 >> call.
It seems logical with a modern mobile phone that you could contact the
emergency services then send your precise location using What3Words, then
send a picture of the incident.
Can this be easily done within the average phone app and received by the
emergency call handler?
I doubt it. It would require a huge revamp of the whole call handling
system to use some form messaging system that links correctly with the
caller that works for all phones.
Or do you have to start one or more further apps, such as WhatsApp, to
eventually achieve this.
I feel that one app should be able to do all this, but can't initially
find it.
Alternatively, can you make an emergency call from WhatApp?
A quick google doesn't seem provide much info.
Cheers
Dave R
But, in general, not if location services are turned off.
Yes. The phone will transmit its best knowledge of its location.
the
emergency services then send your precise location using What3Words
On 06/10/2025 08:09, Chris wrote:
David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
I've had a quick search, but no luck so far.
Suppose that you observe/are involved in an incident which justifies a 999 >>> call.
It seems logical with a modern mobile phone that you could contact the
emergency services then send your precise location using What3Words, then >>> send a picture of the incident.
Can this be easily done within the average phone app and received by the >>> emergency call handler?
I doubt it. It would require a huge revamp of the whole call handling
system to use some form messaging system that links correctly with the
caller that works for all phones.
<https://www.android.com/intl/en_uk/safety/emergency-help/emergency-location-service/>
Thanks. Is it being used in the UK at all? Someone mentioned a different service elsethread.
On 06/10/2025 09:09, Chris wrote:
David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
I've had a quick search, but no luck so far.
Suppose that you observe/are involved in an incident which justifies a 999 >>> call.
It seems logical with a modern mobile phone that you could contact the
emergency services then send your precise location using What3Words, then >>> send a picture of the incident.
Can this be easily done within the average phone app and received by the >>> emergency call handler?
I doubt it. It would require a huge revamp of the whole call handling
system to use some form messaging system that links correctly with the
caller that works for all phones.
Or do you have to start one or more further apps, such as WhatsApp, to
eventually achieve this.
I feel that one app should be able to do all this, but can't initially
find it.
Alternatively, can you make an emergency call from WhatApp?
A quick google doesn't seem provide much info.
There is a 999 SMS service but you need to register for it.
https://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/contact/british-sign-language-bsl/emergency-sms-service-for-deaf-deafened-hard-of-hearing-and-speech-impaired-people/
Jeff Layman wrote:Within an actual blue-light service control room, it is delivered by BT
<https://www.android.com/intl/en_uk/safety/emergency-help/emergency-location-service/>
Thanks. Is it being used in the UK at all? Someone mentioned a different service elsethread.
Within an actual blue-light service control room, it is delivered by BT
as a service they call EISEC.
W3W is a way of monetising latitudes and longitudes, and only makes
sense if the caller personally speaks the information.-a For emergency purposes, it only has a limited lifetime, because it is only needed for phones that don't support emergency location services.-a Once you send as data, there is no advantage in not sending, directly, latitude and longitude, or some other non-proprietary encoding, like National Grid Reference.
On 06/10/2025 18:28, David Woolley wrote:
W3W is a way of monetising latitudes and longitudes, and only makes
sense if the caller personally speaks the information.-a For emergency
purposes, it only has a limited lifetime, because it is only needed
for phones that don't support emergency location services.-a Once you
send as data, there is no advantage in not sending, directly, latitude
and longitude, or some other non-proprietary encoding, like National
Grid Reference.
Didn't many emergency service lose faith it in it because it is
ambiguous and I think there was an incident where the wrong location was
got using it.
David Woolley wrote:I know some fire services installing a new control system, and it's
W3W is a way of monetising latitudes and longitudes
Didn't many emergency service lose faith it in it because it is
ambiguous and I think there was an incident where the wrong location was
got using it.
I know some fire services installing a new control system, and it's
still integrating W3W
On 07/10/2025 10:45, JMB99 wrote:
On 06/10/2025 18:28, David Woolley wrote:
W3W is a way of monetising latitudes and longitudes, and only makes
sense if the caller personally speaks the information.-a For emergency
purposes, it only has a limited lifetime, because it is only needed
for phones that don't support emergency location services.-a Once you
send as data, there is no advantage in not sending, directly, latitude
and longitude, or some other non-proprietary encoding, like National
Grid Reference.
Didn't many emergency service lose faith it in it because it is
ambiguous and I think there was an incident where the wrong location was
got using it.
This often happens when you can-|t copy and paste but have to read the
words out.
If its possible to copy and paste then google maps will let you copy and paste. e.g. this should be the dead centre of Torrox, Malaga, Spain
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Khd6PPc8AVSnQSs2A
W3W sells its self on the the ability to tell some one the address
verbally, so this is also the dead centre of Torrox
https://what3words.com/hydrate.benchmarks.rescues
But in many cases such cases a simple transcription mistake will result
in locations that are far away from each other.. e.g.
https://what3words.com/hydrate.benchmarks.rescue
is I think somewhere in Russia...
On 07/10/2025 09:17, Andy Burns wrote:
Within an actual blue-light service control room, it is delivered by BT
as a service they call EISEC.
It is not confined to the call centres.
Watch the BBC series on North Wales Mountain Rescue services, they are regularly seen using it find the location of a casualty. A friend did
work for the police and had access from home.
Didn't many emergency service lose faith it in it because it is
ambiguous and I think there was an incident where the wrong location was
got using it.
Don't know anything about W3W but when I joined the Leicestershire &
Rutland Joint Fire Service control in 1969 there had recently been a
problem with a call caused by Hoton on the Hill being confused with
Houghton on the Hill, or vice versa, with wouldn't have arisen if the operator had taken the caller's phone number, which he was supposed to
do, because they were on different exchanges, and the exchganges were recorded on the predetermined attendance cards which told the
opperators what to send.
I've had a quick search, but no luck so far.
Suppose that you observe/are involved in an incident which justifies a 999 >call.
It seems logical with a modern mobile phone that you could contact the >emergency services then send your precise location using What3Words, then >send a picture of the incident.