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On 2025-07-04 13:12, Tweed wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-04 11:35, Daniel70 wrote:
On 4/07/2025 1:26 am, David Wade wrote:
<Snip>
.. for me much simpler than trying to ease a card out of the wallet.... and, in a related manner, in about 2000, to pay for my Chicken
where it invariably jams, which I have to do as there are several
cards in there. In most cases I will have also used my phone because >>>>> it has my loyalty card stored in it as well....
Dave
Dinner, I went to hand my Credit Card to the Staff Member .... and, in >>>> doing so, passed the Card over the Card Reader machine and BEEB, Job
Done!! First I knew of THAT ability!!
Really?
NFC has existed for years.
The standard wasn’t even defined until 2003
https://www.thamestechnology.co.uk/inspiration/history-of-contactless-
payments-a-timeline
That's an enormous time in technology :-D
On 2025/7/4 12:24:58, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-04 13:12, Tweed wrote:Daniel said his story was "in about 2000", so saying the standard wasn't defined until 2003 is a valid thing to say!
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:That's an enormous time in technology :-D
On 2025-07-04 11:35, Daniel70 wrote:The standard wasn’t even defined until 2003
On 4/07/2025 1:26 am, David Wade wrote:
<Snip>
.. for me much simpler than trying to ease a card out of the wallet >>>>>> where it invariably jams, which I have to do as there are several.... and, in a related manner, in about 2000, to pay for my Chicken
cards in there. In most cases I will have also used my phone because >>>>>> it has my loyalty card stored in it as well....
Dave
Dinner, I went to hand my Credit Card to the Staff Member .... and, in >>>>> doing so, passed the Card over the Card Reader machine and BEEB, Job >>>>> Done!! First I knew of THAT ability!!
Really?
NFC has existed for years.
https://www.thamestechnology.co.uk/inspiration/history-of-contactless- payments-a-timeline
On 2025/7/4 12:24:58, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-04 13:12, Tweed wrote:Daniel said his story was "in about 2000", so saying the standard wasn't defined until 2003 is a valid thing to say!
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-04 11:35, Daniel70 wrote:
On 4/07/2025 1:26 am, David Wade wrote:
<Snip>
.. for me much simpler than trying to ease a card out of the wallet >>>>>> where it invariably jams, which I have to do as there are several.... and, in a related manner, in about 2000, to pay for my Chicken
cards in there. In most cases I will have also used my phone because >>>>>> it has my loyalty card stored in it as well....
Dave
Dinner, I went to hand my Credit Card to the Staff Member .... and, in >>>>> doing so, passed the Card over the Card Reader machine and BEEB, Job >>>>> Done!! First I knew of THAT ability!!
Really?
NFC has existed for years.
The standard wasn’t even defined until 2003
https://www.thamestechnology.co.uk/inspiration/history-of-
contactless- payments-a-timeline
That's an enormous time in technology :-D
On 03/07/2025 12:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-03 13:18, JMB99 wrote:
My phone remains in a zipped pocket and need unlocking to be used so
takes longer to get into use.
Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
My phone, like my car/house keys, remains in my trouser pocket whenever
I'm not using it or charging it. If I took my phone or my keys out and
left them on a random table, I'd spend ages remembering where I'd left
them and I'd be too much at risk of going out without them.
On 2025/7/3 20:29:10, Mark Lloyd wrote:
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When I notice someone ahead of me in line take out a notebook, that's a
(At first there I thought you meant something like what I'm typing this
on! Visions of waiting for Windows to boot ... then I remembered we call
them laptops these days.)
bad sign. One of those people who carries around hundreds of coupons.Indeed. On the (infrequent) occasions I use a coupon, I place it on the
Coupons are OK, but why can't they decide which ones they're going to
use and get them out in advance? These people often have to argue with
the checker about EVERY item, searching the bags for it.
belt near (on top of, if possible) the item to which it relates.
On my normal supermarket (Carrefour) they have an app, and the app
generates a QR code for the cashier with all the bargain coupons that
there are. Instantly.
If you mean coupons that you have to stick into a card, those are very
rare here.
My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them
down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).
* - when I first started carrying these things, I put them in the
obvious place, a FRONT pocket. I have never put anything other than a
few papers in a back pocket.
On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 22:07:21 +0100, NY wrote:
On 03/07/2025 12:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-03 13:18, JMB99 wrote:
My phone remains in a zipped pocket and need unlocking to be used so
takes longer to get into use.
Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
My phone, like my car/house keys, remains in my trouser pocket whenever
I'm not using it or charging it. If I took my phone or my keys out and
left them on a random table, I'd spend ages remembering where I'd left
them and I'd be too much at risk of going out without them.
My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them
down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).
On 6/07/2025 5:03 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 22:07:21 +0100, NY wrote:
On 03/07/2025 12:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-03 13:18, JMB99 wrote:
My phone remains in a zipped pocket and need unlocking to be used so >>>>> takes longer to get into use.
Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
My phone, like my car/house keys, remains in my trouser pocket whenever
I'm not using it or charging it. If I took my phone or my keys out and
left them on a random table, I'd spend ages remembering where I'd left
them and I'd be too much at risk of going out without them.
My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them
down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).
When he was visiting people and if there was something that he HAD to
take home with him, he would put his car keys next to the object so he couldn't leave without being reminded about the object! ;-P
Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them
down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).
On 05/07/2025 22:14, Bob Eager wrote:
My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them
down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).
Many items have a secure anchor point like the ones on laptops.
Never understood why one could not be designed into mobile phones?
On 05/07/2025 22:14, Bob Eager wrote:
My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them
down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).
Many items have a secure anchor point like the ones on laptops.
Never understood why one could not be designed into mobile phones?
On 05/07/2025 20:03, Mark Lloyd wrote:
Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
I EMailed Rohan recently complaining about their shirt pockets. There
used to be two on most shirts and they were deep enough to take a modern mobile phone completely - it could be then made more secure with a zip fastener on the pocket on a flap that was held by a button.
Their more recent shirts are like most other ones on sale with a small
pocket which will not take a mobile phone completely so danger of it
falling out if you bend over.
On 6/07/2025 5:03 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 22:07:21 +0100, NY wrote:
On 03/07/2025 12:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-03 13:18, JMB99 wrote:
My phone remains in a zipped pocket and need unlocking to be used so >>>>> takes longer to get into use.
Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
My phone, like my car/house keys, remains in my trouser pocket whenever
I'm not using it or charging it. If I took my phone or my keys out and
left them on a random table, I'd spend ages remembering where I'd left
them and I'd be too much at risk of going out without them.
My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them
down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).
When he was visiting people and if there was something that he HAD to
take home with him, he would put his car keys next to the object so he >couldn't leave without being reminded about the object! ;-P
In article <104ddo8$22nfv$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal- september.org> scribeth thus
On 6/07/2025 5:03 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 22:07:21 +0100, NY wrote:
On 03/07/2025 12:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-07-03 13:18, JMB99 wrote:
My phone remains in a zipped pocket and need unlocking to be used so >>>>>> takes longer to get into use.
Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a >>>>> table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
My phone, like my car/house keys, remains in my trouser pocket whenever >>>> I'm not using it or charging it. If I took my phone or my keys out and >>>> left them on a random table, I'd spend ages remembering where I'd left >>>> them and I'd be too much at risk of going out without them.
My rule is that I can take them out of the pocket*, but NEVER set them
down in a place that isn't mine (house or car).
When he was visiting people and if there was something that he HAD to
take home with him, he would put his car keys next to the object so he
couldn't leave without being reminded about the object! ;-P
Been doing that very thing for years whilst working away on site!..
On 05/07/2025 20:03, Mark Lloyd wrote:
Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
I EMailed Rohan recently complaining about their shirt pockets.
On 6/07/2025 10:18 pm, JMB99 wrote:
On 05/07/2025 20:03, Mark Lloyd wrote:
Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
I EMailed Rohan recently complaining about their shirt pockets.
"shirt pockets" .... supposedly responsible for 3.5inch 'Floppies' being
the size they are/were!!
On 2025/7/7 10:3:5, Daniel70 wrote:
On 6/07/2025 10:18 pm, JMB99 wrote:
On 05/07/2025 20:03, Mark Lloyd wrote:
Certainly, I keep it locked, in a shoulder bag when I am out, or in a
table when I am in. It is summer, so can't be in a jacket pocket.
I EMailed Rohan recently complaining about their shirt pockets.
"shirt pockets" .... supposedly responsible for 3.5inch 'Floppies'
being the size they are/were!!
Hmm. There was also a slightly different size/format; 3" I think it was.
My Oric Atmos used those, but it wasn't the only one - some other maker
(I think it might have been Amstrad (for their word-processor, not the
664 games machine) did too.