• Plusnet duplicate emails?

    From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Sun Jul 13 12:57:46 2025
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    With the demise of PN's own groups, I'll ask here ...

    Anyone receiving multiple copies of emails (POP)?

    It's happened several times from different senders this weekend, all references and timestamps in headers look identical, so it seems to be multiple delivery rather than multiple sending.
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  • From Spike@aero.spike@mail.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Sun Jul 13 14:23:15 2025
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    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    With the demise of PN's own groups, I'll ask here ...

    Anyone receiving multiple copies of emails (POP)?

    It's happened several times from different senders this weekend, all references and timestamps in headers look identical, so it seems to be multiple delivery rather than multiple sending.

    I still havenrCOt got the opt-out email concerning the move to Granby.
    --
    Spike

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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Sun Jul 13 16:28:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    Roger Mills wrote:

    Is your email client configured to "leave a copy on the server"? If so,
    the emails will still be sitting on the server after you've downloaded
    them - and may get downloaded again when you next do a "Send & Receive".

    Yes, but it's been that way forever, only had the multiple collection
    this weekend.

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  • From Abandoned Trolley@that.bloke@microsoft.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Jul 14 14:49:53 2025
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    On 13/07/2025 16:28, Andy Burns wrote:
    Roger Mills wrote:

    Is your email client configured to "leave a copy on the server"? If
    so, the emails will still be sitting on the server after you've
    downloaded them - and may get downloaded again when you next do a
    "Send & Receive".

    Yes, but it's been that way forever, only had the multiple collection
    this weekend.



    I have had this probalem a couple of times in the past, and never got to
    the bottom of it (whatever it was) - and it eventually just disappeared.

    I have never been on Plusnet though ... :-\
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Jul 16 12:46:18 2025
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    Andy Burns wrote:

    Anyone receiving multiple copies of emails (POP)?
    Still happening, the pattern seems to be two copies of each email are
    received straight away, then a third copy is received after a couple of minutes.
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  • From NY@me@privacy.net to uk.telecom.broadband on Sat Jul 19 16:32:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 16/07/2025 12:46, Andy Burns wrote:
    Andy Burns wrote:

    Anyone receiving multiple copies of emails (POP)?
    Still happening, the pattern seems to be two copies of each email are received straight away, then a third copy is received after a couple of minutes.

    Weird. I use Windows Live Mail on a Win 7 PC and Thunderbird on a Win 10
    PC, as well as the standard Samsung mail client on a Samsung (Android
    14) mobile phone. All use POP, using port 110 rather port 445 (SSL).

    And I've never seen duplicate emails.

    The Win 7 PC is set to delete emails after 30 days; the others are set
    to leave the emails on the server.
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  • From NY@me@privacy.net to uk.telecom.broadband on Sat Jul 19 16:32:54 2025
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    On 16/07/2025 12:46, Andy Burns wrote:
    Andy Burns wrote:

    Anyone receiving multiple copies of emails (POP)?
    Still happening, the pattern seems to be two copies of each email are received straight away, then a third copy is received after a couple of minutes.

    Weird. I use Windows Live Mail on a Win 7 PC and Thunderbird on a Win 10
    PC, as well as the standard Samsung mail client on a Samsung (Android
    14) mobile phone. All use POP, using port 110 rather port 445 (SSL).

    And I've never seen duplicate emails.

    The Win 7 PC is set to delete emails after 30 days; the others are set
    to leave the emails on the server.
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  • From Abandoned Trolley@that.bloke@microsoft.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Sun Jul 20 10:11:24 2025
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    And I've never seen duplicate emails.


    but appear to have posted a duplicate ?
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  • From Brian Gregory@void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid to uk.telecom.broadband on Sun Jul 20 21:59:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 14/07/2025 15:37, David Wade wrote:
    On 14/07/2025 14:49, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
    On 13/07/2025 16:28, Andy Burns wrote:
    Roger Mills wrote:

    Is your email client configured to "leave a copy on the server"? If
    so, the emails will still be sitting on the server after you've
    downloaded them - and may get downloaded again when you next do a
    "Send & Receive".

    Yes, but it's been that way forever, only had the multiple collection
    this weekend.



    I have had this probalem a couple of times in the past, and never got
    to the bottom of it (whatever it was) - and it eventually just
    disappeared.

    I have never been on Plusn

  • From Abandoned Trolley@that.bloke@microsoft.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Jul 21 09:26:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband



    IMAP is great for keeping everything both in your local email software
    and on the remote IMAP server. But for most email services that's no
    good because you want to keep everything in your email program but are
    only allowed to keep a much smaller number of emails on the IMAP server. There is usually no straightforward solution to this problem.



    Renting a larger mailbox is fairly straightforward
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  • From NY@me@privacy.net to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Jul 21 10:14:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 20/07/2025 10:11, Abandoned Trolley wrote:


    And I've never seen duplicate emails.


    but appear to have posted a duplicate ?

    Haha. Thunderbird sometimes hangs when I press the Send button, so I
    kill TB and restart it, and try to send again. It looks as if this time
    TB succeeded in posting on the first attempt, despite appearances to the contrary. But very funny in a thread about duplicate emails.
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  • From NY@me@privacy.net to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Jul 21 10:21:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 20/07/2025 21:59, Brian Gregory wrote:

    IMAP is great for keeping everything both in your local email software
    and on the remote IMAP server. But for most email services that's no
    good because you want to keep everything in your email program but are
    only allowed to keep a much smaller number of emails on the IMAP server. There is usually no straightforward solution to this problem.

    I much prefer of model (both for emails and for TV programmes) where I transfer a copy from a server to my PC, and can then keep my own backup
    of it.

    The problem with IMAP is when you have multiple computers and you want
    to keep a permanent copy of emails on one computer, but delete copies
    of those emails from other computers/tablets/phones after reading them.
    IF you delete an email one computer, you delete it from all computers
    because you are deleting the master copy on the IMAP server.

    POP works very well in that situation; the only time that you need a bit
    of manual intervention is if you need to blend sent emails from various
    PCs into a single master "Sent Items" folder to keep a permanent copy of
    them. That involves selecting some/all of the Sent Items messages,
    dragging and dropping them into a shared folder and then on the "master"
    PC, dragging them from that folder into the Sent Items on the master
    PC's email program.
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  • From David Wade@g4ugm@dave.invalid to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Jul 21 12:08:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 21/07/2025 10:21, NY wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 21:59, Brian Gregory wrote:

    IMAP is great for keeping everything both in your local email software
    and on the remote IMAP server. But for most email services that's no
    good because you want to keep everything in your email program but are
    only allowed to keep a much smaller number of emails on the IMAP server.
    There is usually no straightforward solution to this problem.

    I much prefer of model (both for emails and for TV programmes) where I transfer a copy from a server to my PC, and can then keep my own backup
    of it.

    The problem with IMAP is when you have multiple computers and you want
    to keep a permanent copy of emails on-a one computer, but delete copies
    of those emails from other computers/tablets/phones after reading them.
    IF you delete an email one computer, you delete it from all computers because you are deleting the master copy on the IMAP server.
    If you use Thunderbird you can control much it keeps on each computer,
    Then you don't need to delete old e-mails.



    POP works very well in that situation; the only time that you need a bit
    of manual intervention is if you need to blend sent emails from various
    PCs into a single master "Sent Items" folder to keep a permanent copy of them. That involves selecting some/all of the Sent Items messages,
    dragging and dropping them into a shared folder and then on the "master"
    PC, dragging them from that folder into the Sent Items on the master
    PC's email program.

    Thats more than a bit!

    Dave
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