• BT Digital voice questions

    From nospam@nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Oct 6 19:04:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at best
    at 21Mbps down.

    Q1. Does BT digital voice run ok at this speed?

    I have Panasonic handsets and Answerphone. The answerphone allows me
    to set a message then hear the caller making the message. If I
    recognise the caller I will then pick up and answer the call.

    Q2. Does BT digital voice have such a facility?

    Q3. If not has anyone used their answerphone with BT Digital voice?
    And if so how?
    --
    AnthonyL

    Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?
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  • From Graham J@nobody@nowhere.co.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Oct 6 21:13:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    AnthonyL wrote:
    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at best
    at 21Mbps down.

    Q1. Does BT digital voice run ok at this speed?

    Oher VoIP services run at about 1 Mbits/sec so there should be no problem

    I have Panasonic handsets and Answerphone. The answerphone allows me
    to set a message then hear the caller making the message. If I
    recognise the caller I will then pick up and answer the call.

    Thsiw may well not work with BT Digital Voice.

    Q2. Does BT digital voice have such a facility?

    Doubt it.

    Q3. If not has anyone used their answerphone with BT Digital voice?
    And if so how?
    --
    Graham J
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Oct 6 21:16:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 2025/10/6 20:4:4, AnthonyL wrote:
    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at best
    at 21Mbps down.
    21 sounds a bit low for FTTC - I'm quite rural, and get about 30 I think
    - but ...

    Q1. Does BT digital voice run ok at this speed?
    ... I can't see VoIP (which AIUI is what BT digital voice is, underneath
    at least) needing anything like that speed. (If anything, I'd say
    latency - ping times and the like - might be more relevant, but I'd be surprised if VoIP won't work under anything calling itself broadband.)

    I have Panasonic handsets and Answerphone. The answerphone allows me
    to set a message then hear the caller making the message. If I
    recognise the caller I will then pick up and answer the call.

    Q2. Does BT digital voice have such a facility?

    Q3. If not has anyone used their answerphone with BT Digital voice?
    And if so how?

    AIUI, one of the options of VoIP - whether BT digital or anyone else -
    is "just plug your 'phone into the router* rather than the old wall
    socket, and carry on using it as before"; assuming you have a normal
    "master socket" and all your telephone equipment is running on
    extensions connected to a plug plugged into your master socket, then
    just plug that plug into the router*, and everything that worked on the
    POTS will continue to work. Including, certainly, answering machines or anything else just involving voice; things that use funny tones, like
    fax machines or MoDems (including those in some remote control systems
    such as emergency equipment), maybe not so. Certainly, the way they
    operate - such as letting you hear the caller before answering or
    leaving the message - should continue; basically, such machines are
    pretending to be a 'phone. [I suppose I should say I take no
    responsibility should this turn out not to be so, but I can't think of
    any way an answering machine that works with the POTS shouldn't work
    with an ATA (see below).]

    * Assuming your ISP/VoIP provider provides a router with a 'phone
    socket. which AIUI BT do (and PlusNet don't, as they're not doing VoIP);
    to use VoIP if you _don't_ have a router with a 'phone socket, you'll
    need an adapter (an ATA), and the above just becomes "just plug your
    'phone into the ATA instead of the wall". (Routers with a 'phone socket
    have an ATA inside them.)


    uk.telecom.voip is probably worth adding (-:
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
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  • From David Wade@dave@g4ugm.invalid to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Oct 6 22:43:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 06/10/2025 21:04, AnthonyL wrote:
    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at best
    at 21Mbps down.

    Q1. Does BT digital voice run ok at this speed?

    should be fine.


    I have Panasonic handsets and Answerphone. The answerphone allows me
    to set a message then hear the caller making the message. If I
    recognise the caller I will then pick up and answer the call.


    If you plug the answerphone into the analogue socket on the router it
    will still work the same. well possibly see below.


    Q2. Does BT digital voice have such a facility?


    No, its voicemail is the same as the 1571 on its POTS line. If you want
    to use your Panasonic make sure you don-|t order this. Once you have it
    you can-|t turn it off. You can set it to only answer after 10 rings, so
    as long your Panasonic answers before this it should work

    Q3. If not has anyone used their answerphone with BT Digital voice?
    And if so how?




    see above.
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  • From richard@richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Oct 6 20:58:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    In article <68e41084.6669937@news.eternal-september.org>,
    AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:

    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at best
    at 21Mbps down.

    Q1. Does BT digital voice run ok at this speed?

    Voice needs the same data rate in both directions, and your upload
    speed will be the limiting factor as it will be much lower - perhaps
    5Mb/s given your download rate.

    But considering that analogue phones use less than 64kb/s it should
    still be plenty.

    -- Richard
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  • From Bob Eager@news0009@eager.cx to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Oct 6 21:17:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 21:16:10 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    On 2025/10/6 20:4:4, AnthonyL wrote:
    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at best
    at 21Mbps down.

    21 sounds a bit low for FTTC - I'm quite rural, and get about 30 I think
    - but ...

    When we had FTTC, we got about 16Mb/s and 2 Mb/s up. We are quite near the middle of town. Unfortunately our house was the first to be built road
    here (surrounded by houses now) and we ended up on a cabinet a long way
    away! Neighbours (both sides) got far better speeds. Luck of the draw.

    But we ran our Asterisk box with no trouble.
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  • From Nick Finnigan@nix@genie.co.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Oct 6 23:43:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 06/10/2025 20:04, AnthonyL wrote:
    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at best
    at 21Mbps down.

    Q1. Does BT digital voice run ok at this speed?

    I had 28Mbps when switched to BT Digital voice, and it worked, but should not need anything like that. Gradually improved to 40Mbps.


    I have Panasonic handsets and Answerphone. The answerphone allows me
    to set a message then hear the caller making the message. If I
    recognise the caller I will then pick up and answer the call.

    Q2. Does BT digital voice have such a facility?

    Q3. If not has anyone used their answerphone with BT Digital voice?
    And if so how?

    I have Panasonic DECT without answerphone, you just plug the base into
    the socket in the BT router. BT Digital Voice comes with 1571 answerphone enabled, you need to log in to myBT to disable it.

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  • From David Wade@dave@g4ugm.invalid to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Oct 7 09:09:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 07/10/2025 00:43, Nick Finnigan wrote:
    On 06/10/2025 20:04, AnthonyL wrote:
    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at best
    at 21Mbps down.

    Q1. Does BT digital voice run ok at this speed?

    -aI had 28Mbps when switched to BT Digital voice, and it worked, but
    should not need anything like that. Gradually improved to 40Mbps.


    I have Panasonic handsets and Answerphone.-a The answerphone allows me
    to set a message then hear the caller making the message.-a If I
    recognise the caller I will then pick up and answer the call.

    Q2. Does BT digital voice have such a facility?

    Q3. If not has anyone used their answerphone with BT Digital voice?
    And if so how?

    -aI have Panasonic DECT without answerphone, you just plug the base into the socket in the BT router. BT Digital Voice comes with 1571
    answerphone enabled, you need to log in to myBT to disable it.


    It appears with DigitalVoice you can-|t disable it....
    .. lots of threads on this....

    Dave
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  • From Nick Finnigan@nix@genie.co.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Oct 7 09:37:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 07/10/2025 08:09, David Wade wrote:


    -a-aI have Panasonic DECT without answerphone, you just plug the base into >> the socket in the BT router. BT Digital Voice comes with 1571 answerphone >> enabled, you need to log in to myBT to disable it.


    It appears with DigitalVoice you can-|t disable it....
    .. lots of threads on this....

    My BT -> Your Products -> Your Digital Voice -> Voicemail essentials.

    Its not obvious, but it works for me.
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  • From Roger@invalid@invalid.invalid to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Oct 7 11:35:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 19:04:04 GMT, nospam@please.invalid
    (AnthonyL) wrote:

    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at best
    at 21Mbps down.

    Q1. Does BT digital voice run ok at this speed?

    Perhaps you are too young to remember Home Highway which was a
    form of ISDN. The speed was measured in kbps not Mbps and speech
    was fine.
    --
    Roger
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  • From richard@richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Oct 7 11:15:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    In article <10c1ai1$6qei$1@artemis.inf.ed.ac.uk>, I wrote:

    But considering that analogue phones use less than 64kb/s it should
    still be plenty.

    And of course the use of modern codecs such as G.722 means that even
    higher quality audio still only requires a similar data rate.

    -- Richard
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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Oct 7 14:44:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 11:35:21 +0100
    Roger <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 19:04:04 GMT, nospam@please.invalid
    (AnthonyL) wrote:

    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at
    best at 21Mbps down.

    Q1. Does BT digital voice run ok at this speed?

    Perhaps you are too young to remember Home Highway which was a
    form of ISDN. The speed was measured in kbps not Mbps and speech
    was fine.

    That sounds like my connection, in the US, when I joined Compuserve,
    and received an early ID, with very few digits.

    Back when I started work in London, so about 1973 or '74, our office
    had a Telex terminal in the corner linked to 'The IBM Computer' at Head
    Office via a handset modem. We ran engineering calculations on it. At lunchtime, the temporary switchboard staff would come on duty, they
    would listen to any lines still plugged in, and would not recognise the
    strange noises, so they would pull the plug. End of calculations.
    Re-coil the paper tape, and start again.

    Those were the days......
    --
    Davey.

    --
    Davey.

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  • From Peter Johnson@peter@parksidewood.nospam to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Oct 7 17:50:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 14:44:53 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
    wrote:



    That sounds like my connection, in the US, when I joined Compuserve,
    and received an early ID, with very few digits.


    I joined Compuserve in the UK, with an all digits ID, and only used it
    once a week because of the cost of phone calls. They started allowing
    users to adopt abc@compuserve.com style addresses not long before I
    left.
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  • From nospam@nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Oct 7 17:12:30 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 20:58:41 -0000 (UTC), richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk
    (Richard Tobin) wrote:

    In article <68e41084.6669937@news.eternal-september.org>,
    AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:

    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at best
    at 21Mbps down.

    Q1. Does BT digital voice run ok at this speed?

    Voice needs the same data rate in both directions, and your upload
    speed will be the limiting factor as it will be much lower - perhaps
    5Mb/s given your download rate.


    I wish :(
    Just tested: 21 down 1.1 up

    But considering that analogue phones use less than 64kb/s it should
    still be plenty.


    Provided we are not doing much on t'interwebby thing I guess like
    uploading photos or files at the same time.
    --
    AnthonyL

    Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?
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  • From nospam@nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Oct 7 17:17:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 23:43:56 +0100, Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk>
    wrote:

    On 06/10/2025 20:04, AnthonyL wrote:
    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at best
    at 21Mbps down.

    Q1. Does BT digital voice run ok at this speed?

    I had 28Mbps when switched to BT Digital voice, and it worked, but should
    not need anything like that. Gradually improved to 40Mbps.


    I have Panasonic handsets and Answerphone. The answerphone allows me
    to set a message then hear the caller making the message. If I
    recognise the caller I will then pick up and answer the call.

    Q2. Does BT digital voice have such a facility?

    Q3. If not has anyone used their answerphone with BT Digital voice?
    And if so how?

    I have Panasonic DECT without answerphone, you just plug the base into
    the socket in the BT router. BT Digital Voice comes with 1571 answerphone >enabled, you need to log in to myBT to disable it.


    Thanks. The answerphone is the best deterrent of spam calls I've come
    across. The outgoing message is along the lines "Please state whom
    you are calling and if we are in your call will be answered, else
    leave a message". Spam callers don't know any names and we can hear
    the message as it is being made so can pick up if we wish.
    --
    AnthonyL

    Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?
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  • From nospam@nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Oct 7 17:26:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 11:35:21 +0100, Roger <invalid@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 19:04:04 GMT, nospam@please.invalid
    (AnthonyL) wrote:

    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at best
    at 21Mbps down.

    Q1. Does BT digital voice run ok at this speed?

    Perhaps you are too young to remember Home Highway which was a
    form of ISDN. The speed was measured in kbps not Mbps and speech
    was fine.

    Oh I remember well before ISDN and had customers who used it.

    The system didn't have to cope with modern bandwidth demands and
    Windows updates going on in the background.

    If the quality of some customer support lines is any guide, and I
    assume they are using VOIP/Digital Voice etc, then it's still got a
    long way to match POTS. A friend in Perth WA was converted a year or
    two back and our regular annual catch-up on the phone was quite
    challenging and he moaned bitterly - oh, and he was a Telecoms
    Consultant.
    --
    AnthonyL

    Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?
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  • From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Oct 7 17:35:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 11:35:21 +0100, Roger <invalid@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 19:04:04 GMT, nospam@please.invalid
    (AnthonyL) wrote:

    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at best
    at 21Mbps down.

    Q1. Does BT digital voice run ok at this speed?

    Perhaps you are too young to remember Home Highway which was a
    form of ISDN. The speed was measured in kbps not Mbps and speech
    was fine.

    Oh I remember well before ISDN and had customers who used it.

    The system didn't have to cope with modern bandwidth demands and
    Windows updates going on in the background.

    If the quality of some customer support lines is any guide, and I
    assume they are using VOIP/Digital Voice etc, then it's still got a
    long way to match POTS. A friend in Perth WA was converted a year or
    two back and our regular annual catch-up on the phone was quite
    challenging and he moaned bitterly - oh, and he was a Telecoms
    Consultant.



    Modern 4/5G mobile phones voice calls use VoIP. As long as the radio link
    holds up the call quality is very good. VoIP isnrCOt the issue - the quality
    of the underlying transport link is the issue,

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  • From Graham J@nobody@nowhere.co.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Oct 7 18:47:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    AnthonyL wrote:

    [snip]

    If the quality of some customer support lines is any guide, and I
    assume they are using VOIP/Digital Voice etc, then it's still got a
    long way to match POTS. A friend in Perth WA was converted a year or
    two back and our regular annual catch-up on the phone was quite
    challenging and he moaned bitterly - oh, and he was a Telecoms
    Consultant.

    VoIP works fine - even with latency. I used it 15 years ago on a
    satellite link; it surprised me that it worked at all, but it was very good.

    By contrast, many calls that I receive from mobile phones are awful. As
    an example, listen to any radio news programme where somebody is being interviewed by mobile phone. Such interviews should be transcribed and re-voiced by an actor in the studio; with the explanation that such
    mobile calls are of too poor a quality to be broadcast. Then maybe the
    mobile operators and phone companies would do something about improving
    their quality.
    --
    Graham J
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  • From richard@richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Oct 7 17:47:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    In article <68e54956.38533078@news.eternal-september.org>,

    Voice needs the same data rate in both directions, and your upload
    speed will be the limiting factor as it will be much lower - perhaps
    5Mb/s given your download rate.

    I wish :(
    Just tested: 21 down 1.1 up

    That's... disappointing.

    But considering that analogue phones use less than 64kb/s it should
    still be plenty.

    Provided we are not doing much on t'interwebby thing I guess like
    uploading photos or files at the same time.

    The router ought to prioritize voice packets, but whether it does is
    another matter.

    -- Richard
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  • From Nick Finnigan@nix@genie.co.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Oct 7 22:10:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 07/10/2025 18:17, AnthonyL wrote:

    Thanks. The answerphone is the best deterrent of spam calls I've come across. The outgoing message is along the lines "Please state whom
    you are calling and if we are in your call will be answered, else
    leave a message". Spam callers don't know any names and we can hear
    the message as it is being made so can pick up if we wish.

    They often know my name, but can't pronounce it, and usually take several seconds to transfer to a person who has the name available.

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  • From Jason H@jason_hindle@yahoo.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Oct 7 23:02:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 07/10/2025 17:50, Peter Johnson wrote:
    On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 14:44:53 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
    wrote:



    That sounds like my connection, in the US, when I joined Compuserve,
    and received an early ID, with very few digits.


    I joined Compuserve in the UK, with an all digits ID, and only used it
    once a week because of the cost of phone calls. They started allowing
    users to adopt abc@compuserve.com style addresses not long before I
    left.

    The ghost of 100256.1230@compuserve.com says Hello. My first email address.
    Having it on my CV (along with a Mobile Phone Number) helped me stand out a
    little after graduating.
    --
    --
    A PICKER OF UNCONSIDERED TRIFLES
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  • From onion@onion@anon.invalid (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mr_=D6n!on?=) to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Oct 8 00:43:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Peter Johnson wrote:
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

    That sounds like my connection, in the US, when I joined Compuserve,
    and received an early ID, with very few digits.


    I joined Compuserve in the UK, with an all digits ID, and only used it
    once a week because of the cost of phone calls. They started allowing
    users to adopt abc@compuserve.com style addresses not long before I
    left.


    The ghost of 100256.1230@compuserve.com says Hello. My first email address.
    Having it on my CV (along with a Mobile Phone Number) helped me stand out a
    little after graduating.


    Greetings from 100330,655 (N.B. use of comma, not period).
    I too was very frugal with my use of Compu$erve because of
    the high cost of dialup connections.

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  • From Davey@davey@example.invalid to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Oct 8 09:06:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 23:02:07 -0000 (UTC)
    Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 07/10/2025 17:50, Peter Johnson wrote:
    On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 14:44:53 +0100, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
    wrote:



    That sounds like my connection, in the US, when I joined Compuserve,
    and received an early ID, with very few digits.


    I joined Compuserve in the UK, with an all digits ID, and only used
    it once a week because of the cost of phone calls. They started
    allowing users to adopt abc@compuserve.com style addresses not long
    before I left.

    The ghost of 100256.1230@compuserve.com says Hello. My first email
    address. Having it on my CV (along with a Mobile Phone Number) helped
    me stand out a little after graduating.


    I've lost my Compuserve number, but I do know it only had five digits
    in the first part, before the comma. 6-digiters were late-comers.
    --
    Davey.

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  • From David Rance@david@SPAMOFF.invalid to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Oct 8 10:17:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 07/10/2025 18:17, AnthonyL wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 23:43:56 +0100, Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk>
    wrote:

    On 06/10/2025 20:04, AnthonyL wrote:
    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at best
    at 21Mbps down.

    Q1. Does BT digital voice run ok at this speed?

    I had 28Mbps when switched to BT Digital voice, and it worked, but should >> not need anything like that. Gradually improved to 40Mbps.


    I have Panasonic handsets and Answerphone. The answerphone allows me
    to set a message then hear the caller making the message. If I
    recognise the caller I will then pick up and answer the call.

    Q2. Does BT digital voice have such a facility?

    Q3. If not has anyone used their answerphone with BT Digital voice?
    And if so how?

    I have Panasonic DECT without answerphone, you just plug the base into
    the socket in the BT router. BT Digital Voice comes with 1571 answerphone
    enabled, you need to log in to myBT to disable it.


    Thanks. The answerphone is the best deterrent of spam calls I've come across. The outgoing message is along the lines "Please state whom
    you are calling and if we are in your call will be answered, else
    leave a message". Spam callers don't know any names and we can hear
    the message as it is being made so can pick up if we wish.

    You're lucky. Many SPAM callers seem to know my name!

    David
    --
    David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK


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  • From Bob Eager@news0009@eager.cx to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Oct 8 09:17:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 00:43:48 +0100, Mr |un!on wrote:

    Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Peter Johnson wrote:
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

    That sounds like my connection, in the US, when I joined Compuserve,
    and received an early ID, with very few digits.


    I joined Compuserve in the UK, with an all digits ID, and only used it
    once a week because of the cost of phone calls. They started allowing
    users to adopt abc@compuserve.com style addresses not long before I
    left.


    The ghost of 100256.1230@compuserve.com says Hello. My first email
    address.
    Having it on my CV (along with a Mobile Phone Number) helped me stand
    out a little after graduating.


    Greetings from 100330,655 (N.B. use of comma, not period).
    I too was very frugal with my use of Compu$erve because of the high cost
    of dialup connections.

    1000016,2770 here. I had some deal that made it a little cheaper, but I
    mostly used it offline and batched the transfers.

    Far from my first email address. Globally, that was rde@ukc.ac.uk, but the 'rde' bit dates back to UNIX in 1975.
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  • From nospam@nospam@please.invalid (AnthonyL) to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Oct 8 11:50:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 17:35:38 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
    <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

    AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 11:35:21 +0100, Roger <invalid@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 19:04:04 GMT, nospam@please.invalid
    (AnthonyL) wrote:

    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at best >>>> at 21Mbps down.

    Q1. Does BT digital voice run ok at this speed?

    Perhaps you are too young to remember Home Highway which was a
    form of ISDN. The speed was measured in kbps not Mbps and speech
    was fine.

    Oh I remember well before ISDN and had customers who used it.

    The system didn't have to cope with modern bandwidth demands and
    Windows updates going on in the background.

    If the quality of some customer support lines is any guide, and I
    assume they are using VOIP/Digital Voice etc, then it's still got a
    long way to match POTS. A friend in Perth WA was converted a year or
    two back and our regular annual catch-up on the phone was quite
    challenging and he moaned bitterly - oh, and he was a Telecoms
    Consultant.



    Modern 4/5G mobile phones voice calls use VoIP. As long as the radio link >holds up the call quality is very good. VoIP isnrCOt the issue - the quality >of the underlying transport link is the issue,


    Well yes of course, and the radio link is often not as reliable as the
    physical link even if my physical link leaves something to be desired.
    --
    AnthonyL

    Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?
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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Oct 8 13:56:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 07/10/2025 18:17, AnthonyL wrote:
    The answerphone is the best deterrent of spam calls I've come
    across.


    We are lucky they all seem to be so stupid.

    I had one of the usual "this is bank security" calls this morning .

    They never say what bank and the two suspicious transactions are always
    the same - Amazon -u99 (or is it -u199?) and another one for around -u900 I think.



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  • From Rupert Moss-Eccardt@news@moss-eccardt.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Thu Oct 9 08:56:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 7 Oct 2025 14:44, Davey wrote:
    On Tue, 07 Oct 2025 11:35:21 +0100
    Roger <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On Mon, 06 Oct 2025 19:04:04 GMT, nospam@please.invalid
    (AnthonyL) wrote:

    I'm on BT Broadband, they call it Fibre 1, and if FTTC running at
    best at 21Mbps down.

    Q1. Does BT digital voice run ok at this speed?

    Perhaps you are too young to remember Home Highway which was a
    form of ISDN. The speed was measured in kbps not Mbps and speech
    was fine.

    That sounds like my connection, in the US, when I joined Compuserve,
    and received an early ID, with very few digits.

    Back when I started work in London, so about 1973 or '74, our office
    had a Telex terminal in the corner linked to 'The IBM Computer' at Head Office via a handset modem. We ran engineering calculations on it. At lunchtime, the temporary switchboard staff would come on duty, they
    would listen to any lines still plugged in, and would not recognise the strange noises, so they would pull the plug. End of calculations.
    Re-coil the paper tape, and start again.

    We once lost an RJE on a remote island because the operator put the
    "howler" on.
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