• Router recommendation

    From Graham J@nobody@nowhere.co.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Sep 1 17:27:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    I'm looking for a router which has the capability to connect its WAN
    port to a WiFi service. Specifically WiFi, not 4G/5G.

    I am aware that USB adapters exist that can be plugged into a laptop to achieve WiFi access. Also that some routers have one (or more) USB
    sockets. So can anybody suggest a router and WiFi USB adapter that will
    work together?

    The router will need some LAN ports and WiFi to allow clients to connect
    to it.

    TIA
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    Graham J
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Sep 1 18:01:37 2025
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    Graham J wrote:

    I'm looking for a router which has the capability to connect its WAN
    port to a WiFi service.

    My Vigor 2865ac seems to have the option to use WAN2 for a 2.4GHz WAN interface, or WAN3 as a 5GHz WAN interface... sorry I'm not going to
    dick about any further than that to test it ...

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  • From Chris Green@cl@isbd.net to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Sep 1 17:52:39 2025
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    Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm looking for a router which has the capability to connect its WAN
    port to a WiFi service. Specifically WiFi, not 4G/5G.

    I am aware that USB adapters exist that can be plugged into a laptop to achieve WiFi access. Also that some routers have one (or more) USB
    sockets. So can anybody suggest a router and WiFi USB adapter that will work together?

    The router will need some LAN ports and WiFi to allow clients to connect
    to it.

    I needed the same a few years ago, it's call "WiFi Client" mode (by
    TP-Link at least). Here's the list of possibles I made:-

    ^ Name ^ Price ^ LAN ports ^ Comments ^
    | Edimax EW-7228APn | -u17.73 | 5 | Manual doesn't describe client mode |
    | Netgear WN2000RPT | -u26.70 | 4 | Seems fairly basic |
    | Solwise ECB3500 | -u71.11 | 1 | Expensive and overkill |
    | Solwise Smart AP3 | -u66.84 | 4 | Ditto |
    | TP-Link TL-WA5110G | -u17.33 | 1 | Seems to know about client mode |
    | TP-Link TL-WA5210G | -u28.01 | 1 | Weatherproof |
    | TP-Link TL-WR543G | -u16.99 | 4 | Seems basically what we want |
    | TP-Link TL-WR743ND | -u14.42 | 4 | Looks the best for the price |

    A TP-Link TL-WR743ND served me well for quite a while.
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    Chris Green
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  • From Graham J@nobody@nowhere.co.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Sep 1 18:08:41 2025
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    Andy Burns wrote:
    Graham J wrote:

    I'm looking for a router which has the capability to connect its WAN
    port to a WiFi service.

    My Vigor 2865ac seems to have the option to use WAN2 for a 2.4GHz WAN interface, or WAN3 as a 5GHz WAN interface... sorry I'm not going to
    dick about any further than that to test it ...


    Thanks.

    All the Vigor ac variants use their internal WiFi hardware to function
    as an access point and a client simultaneously, so don't require a
    separate WiFi device for the WAN connection. But they are quite expensive.
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    Graham J
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  • From Woody@harrogate3@ntlworld.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Sep 1 18:13:20 2025
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    On Mon 01/09/2025 17:52, Chris Green wrote:
    Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
    I'm looking for a router which has the capability to connect its WAN
    port to a WiFi service. Specifically WiFi, not 4G/5G.

    I am aware that USB adapters exist that can be plugged into a laptop to
    achieve WiFi access. Also that some routers have one (or more) USB
    sockets. So can anybody suggest a router and WiFi USB adapter that will
    work together?

    The router will need some LAN ports and WiFi to allow clients to connect
    to it.

    I needed the same a few years ago, it's call "WiFi Client" mode (by
    TP-Link at least). Here's the list of possibles I made:-

    ^ Name ^ Price ^ LAN ports ^ Comments ^
    | Edimax EW-7228APn | -u17.73 | 5 | Manual doesn't describe client mode |
    | Netgear WN2000RPT | -u26.70 | 4 | Seems fairly basic |
    | Solwise ECB3500 | -u71.11 | 1 | Expensive and overkill |
    | Solwise Smart AP3 | -u66.84 | 4 | Ditto |
    | TP-Link TL-WA5110G | -u17.33 | 1 | Seems to know about client mode |
    | TP-Link TL-WA5210G | -u28.01 | 1 | Weatherproof |
    | TP-Link TL-WR543G | -u16.99 | 4 | Seems basically what we want |
    | TP-Link TL-WR743ND | -u14.42 | 4 | Looks the best for the price |

    A TP-Link TL-WR743ND served me well for quite a while.


    Looks like this router is finished. The TP-L web site says 'end of life.'


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  • From Graham J@nobody@nowhere.co.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Sep 1 18:37:45 2025
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    Graham J wrote:
    I'm looking for a router which has the capability to connect its WAN
    port to a WiFi service.-a Specifically WiFi, not 4G/5G.

    I am aware that USB adapters exist that can be plugged into a laptop to achieve WiFi access.-a Also that some routers have one (or more) USB sockets.-a So can anybody suggest a router and WiFi USB adapter that will work together?

    The router will need some LAN ports and WiFi to allow clients to connect
    to it.

    OP here:

    To correct my first sentence:

    I'm looking for a router which has the capability to connect its WAN
    port to a WiFi service (i.e. work as a client), while SIMULTANEOUSLY functioning as an access point for my wireless clients.
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  • From Rupert Moss-Eccardt@news@moss-eccardt.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Mon Sep 1 18:45:26 2025
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    On 1 Sep 2025 18:37, Graham J wrote:
    Graham J wrote:
    I'm looking for a router which has the capability to connect its WAN
    port to a WiFi service.-a Specifically WiFi, not 4G/5G.

    I am aware that USB adapters exist that can be plugged into a laptop to
    achieve WiFi access.-a Also that some routers have one (or more) USB
    sockets.-a So can anybody suggest a router and WiFi USB adapter that will
    work together?

    The router will need some LAN ports and WiFi to allow clients to connect
    to it.

    OP here:

    To correct my first sentence:

    I'm looking for a router which has the capability to connect its WAN
    port to a WiFi service (i.e. work as a client), while SIMULTANEOUSLY functioning as an access point for my wireless clients.

    I would build my own with a Windows machine using Internet Connection
    Sharing. Use the native Wi-Fi (if a laptop) for the "WAN". I can't
    quite remember if you can share through the same adapter. If not use
    that USB Wi-Fi adapter to mention buying. Almost any Windows box will
    do. It won't need much disk space or memory. If you want to use Wi-Fi
    6 then perhaps a new, shiny box. https://www.majorgeeks.com/content/page/enable_disable_internet_connection_sharing.html

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  • From MikeS@MikeS@fred.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Sep 2 07:59:39 2025
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    On 01/09/2025 18:37, Graham J wrote:
    Graham J wrote:
    I'm looking for a router which has the capability to connect its WAN
    port to a WiFi service.-a Specifically WiFi, not 4G/5G.

    I am aware that USB adapters exist that can be plugged into a laptop
    to achieve WiFi access.-a Also that some routers have one (or more) USB
    sockets.-a So can anybody suggest a router and WiFi USB adapter that
    will work together?

    The router will need some LAN ports and WiFi to allow clients to
    connect to it.

    OP here:

    To correct my first sentence:

    I'm looking for a router which has the capability to connect its WAN
    port to a WiFi service (i.e. work as a client), while SIMULTANEOUSLY functioning as an access point for my wireless clients.


    I did exactly what you want with a couple of very old TL-MR3420 3G
    routers by flashing them with the OpenWrt firmware. Their website has a
    long list of compatible routers.
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  • From Theo@theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Sep 2 11:22:12 2025
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    MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote:
    I did exactly what you want with a couple of very old TL-MR3420 3G
    routers by flashing them with the OpenWrt firmware. Their website has a
    long list of compatible routers.

    I think it's going to be doable with most dual band routers where you can separate the bands - ie they operate as two separate wifi cards. Connect
    the 2.4GHz to the upstream router and then provide an access point over
    5GHz. Pretty much any router which supports both 2.4 and 5GHz running
    OpenWRT should be able to do that.

    I'm running it on an (ebay, ex-Zen) Fritzbox 7530 - not AX - and the wifi
    works fine. I also ran a BT Homehub 5a which are available cheap and the
    wifi works ok but it's quite old and not the fastest now.

    If you want to do it with both being 2.4 or both being 5GHz, then you need a router with two physical radios in that band, and that might require the addition of an extra USB wifi stick or similar, so you'd need a router with
    a USB port.

    Theo
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  • From Bob Pullen@me@privacy.net to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Sep 2 13:48:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 01/09/2025 17:27, Graham J wrote:
    I'm looking for a router which has the capability to connect its WAN
    port to a WiFi service.-a Specifically WiFi, not 4G/5G.

    I am aware that USB adapters exist that can be plugged into a laptop to achieve WiFi access.-a Also that some routers have one (or more) USB sockets.-a So can anybody suggest a router and WiFi USB adapter that will work together?

    The router will need some LAN ports and WiFi to allow clients to connect
    to it.

    I suspect a GL.iNet Beryl AX or similar will do what you're asking - https://www.gl-inet.com/products/gl-mt3000/
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    Bob Pullen
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  • From Theo@theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Sep 2 14:15:22 2025
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    Bob Pullen <me@privacy.net> wrote:
    I suspect a GL.iNet Beryl AX or similar will do what you're asking - https://www.gl-inet.com/products/gl-mt3000/

    I'd disrecommend anything from GL.iNet. They 'run on OpenWRT', except:

    - they violate the OpenWRT licence by not releasing sources
    - they have closed source drivers, so even if there is an independent
    OpenWRT port it can't support all the hardware (ie there's no benefit if
    you want to run vanilla OpenWRT)
    - they advertise 'runs OpenWrt 21.02' which is now 4 years old and contains
    numerous vulnerabilties which have been patched in more recent versions.

    Basically they're a Chinese ripoff merchant outside the reach of the law
    from the OpenWRT folks enforcing their IP.

    Theo
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  • From MikeS@MikeS@fred.com to uk.telecom.broadband on Tue Sep 2 15:18:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.telecom.broadband

    On 02/09/2025 11:22, Theo wrote:
    MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> wrote:
    I did exactly what you want with a couple of very old TL-MR3420 3G
    routers by flashing them with the OpenWrt firmware. Their website has a
    long list of compatible routers.

    I think it's going to be doable with most dual band routers where you can separate the bands - ie they operate as two separate wifi cards. Connect
    the 2.4GHz to the upstream router and then provide an access point over
    5GHz. Pretty much any router which supports both 2.4 and 5GHz running OpenWRT should be able to do that.

    I'm running it on an (ebay, ex-Zen) Fritzbox 7530 - not AX - and the wifi works fine. I also ran a BT Homehub 5a which are available cheap and the wifi works ok but it's quite old and not the fastest now.

    If you want to do it with both being 2.4 or both being 5GHz, then you need a router with two physical radios in that band, and that might require the addition of an extra USB wifi stick or similar, so you'd need a router with
    a USB port.

    Theo

    The comment "with both being 2.4 or both being 5GHz, then you need a
    router with two physical radios in that band" is not correct. Those
    ancient TL-MR3420 routers I mentioned have a single 2.4GHz radio and
    OpenWrt operates simultaneously on the two functions. I used them
    routinely to connect to a neighbour's free BT WiFi and provide
    connections to any devices on my WiFi network.
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  • From Adrian Caspersz@email@here.invalid to uk.telecom.broadband on Wed Sep 3 12:01:33 2025
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    On 01/09/2025 17:27, Graham J wrote:
    I'm looking for a router which has the capability to connect its WAN
    port to a WiFi service.-a Specifically WiFi, not 4G/5G.

    In some far flung places, WiFI is used as the IP carrier method.


    I am aware that USB adapters exist that can be plugged into a laptop to achieve WiFi access.-a Also that some routers have one (or more) USB sockets.-a So can anybody suggest a router and WiFi USB adapter that will work together?

    The router will need some LAN ports and WiFi to allow clients to connect
    to it.

    TIA


    Surely be able to configure one of these like that.

    https://mikrotik.com/product/hex_s_2025 - $69

    I've recently been on a training course to learn about MikroTik routers
    and their configuration in RouterOS, which is more at the business level
    of things a'la Cisco - but not the price tag!

    https://mikrotik.com/products

    However, they are very flexible (anything to anything). I'll be getting
    one for home when they finally do get around to finishing the upgrade of
    the rest of the country to full-fibre, then do us.

    YouTube: Switching to a 100% MikroTik Home Network! Part 1: MikroTik
    RB5009 Router
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WEW0_XuISA
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    Adrian C
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