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Today, we are proposing that telecoms companies should withhold the
caller ID of calls that appear to come from a UK mobile roaming abroad
unless they can verify its validity. This follows engagement with
industry on how providers could best protect people from calls spoofing
UK mobile numbers without hindering customers calling home from abroad."
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/scam-calls-and-messages/consultation-tackling-scam-calls-from-abroad
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 11:33:42 +0100, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
[snip]
Today, we are proposing that telecoms companies should withhold the
caller ID of calls that appear to come from a UK mobile roaming abroad >>unless they can verify its validity. This follows engagement with
industry on how providers could best protect people from calls spoofing
UK mobile numbers without hindering customers calling home from abroad."
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/scam-calls-and-messages/consultation-tackling-scam-calls-from-abroad
What does 'verify its validity' mean? Does this mean if I text someone
from overseas, my number could be withheld and my text would not then
be recognised by Messenger as coming from me? It would say 'Unknown
caller' and not get read.
"Ofcom is today proposing to strengthen its guidance on how telecoms >companies should protect people in the UK from international calls that >imitate UK mobile numbers.
One way that criminal gangs prey on victims is by imitating - or >rCyspoofingrCO- phone numbers , and callers that potential victims might >trust, such as UK mobile numbers, so their calls are more likely to be >answered. Fraudsters based abroad often spoof UK numbers, knowing people
are more likely to pick up these calls than if an unknown international >number is displayed.
Ofcom research reveals that, in February 2025, two in five phone users
(42%) said they received a suspicious call in the last three months. We
found that people are more trusting of calls coming from UK mobile
numbers (+447) than they are of calls from withheld or international
numbers.
A quarter (26%) said they were likely or very likely to pick up a call
from an unrecognised UK mobile number, compared to just one in ten (9%)
who would answer a call showing an international number with an
unrecognised country code. Strengthening protections
Last year, we strengthened our industry guidance in this area, telling
phone companies to identify and block calls from abroad that falsely
display a UK landline number as the caller ID, except in a limited
number of legitimate use cases.
Currently, there is an exemption from blocking calls from abroad that
display a UK mobile caller ID. This is to allow people who are roaming
abroad to display their number to family and friends when they call
them.
Today, we are proposing that telecoms companies should withhold the
caller ID of calls that appear to come from a UK mobile roaming abroad
unless they can verify its validity. This follows engagement with
industry on how providers could best protect people from calls spoofing
UK mobile numbers without hindering customers calling home from abroad."
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/scam-calls-and-messages/consultation-tackling-scam-calls-from-abroad
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 11:33:42 +0100, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
[snip]
Today, we are proposing that telecoms companies should withhold the >>>caller ID of calls that appear to come from a UK mobile roaming abroad >>>unless they can verify its validity. This follows engagement with >>>industry on how providers could best protect people from calls spoofing >>>UK mobile numbers without hindering customers calling home from abroad."
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/scam-calls-and-messages/consultation-tackling-scam-calls-from-abroad
What does 'verify its validity' mean? Does this mean if I text someone
from overseas, my number could be withheld and my text would not then
be recognised by Messenger as coming from me? It would say 'Unknown
caller' and not get read.
Skype used to verify the number by sending a one time passcode to
it. Perhaps they mean something like that?
Or they might use STIR/SHAKEN--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 11:33:42 +0100, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
"Ofcom is today proposing to strengthen its guidance on how telecoms >>companies should protect people in the UK from international calls that >>imitate UK mobile numbers.
One way that criminal gangs prey on victims is by imitating - or >>aspoofingA- phone numbers , and callers that potential victims might
trust, such as UK mobile numbers, so their calls are more likely to be >>answered. Fraudsters based abroad often spoof UK numbers, knowing people >>are more likely to pick up these calls than if an unknown international >>number is displayed.
Ofcom research reveals that, in February 2025, two in five phone users >>(42%) said they received a suspicious call in the last three months. We >>found that people are more trusting of calls coming from UK mobile
numbers (+447) than they are of calls from withheld or international >>numbers.
A quarter (26%) said they were likely or very likely to pick up a call
from an unrecognised UK mobile number, compared to just one in ten (9%)
who would answer a call showing an international number with an >>unrecognised country code. Strengthening protections
Last year, we strengthened our industry guidance in this area, telling >>phone companies to identify and block calls from abroad that falsely >>display a UK landline number as the caller ID, except in a limited
number of legitimate use cases.
Currently, there is an exemption from blocking calls from abroad that >>display a UK mobile caller ID. This is to allow people who are roaming >>abroad to display their number to family and friends when they call
them.
Today, we are proposing that telecoms companies should withhold the
caller ID of calls that appear to come from a UK mobile roaming abroad >>unless they can verify its validity. This follows engagement with
industry on how providers could best protect people from calls spoofing
UK mobile numbers without hindering customers calling home from abroad."
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/scam-calls-and-messages/consultation-tackling-scam-calls-from-abroad
This ceased to be an issue for me since I bought a phone with TrueCall built in. Problem solved,
unless the crooks were somehow to get hold of my contacts list or managed to guess correctly.
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 16:47:01 +0100, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 11:33:42 +0100, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
[snip]
Today, we are proposing that telecoms companies should withhold the
caller ID of calls that appear to come from a UK mobile roaming abroad >>>> unless they can verify its validity. This follows engagement with
industry on how providers could best protect people from calls spoofing >>>> UK mobile numbers without hindering customers calling home from abroad." >>>>
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/scam-calls-and-messages/consultation-tackling-scam-calls-from-abroad
What does 'verify its validity' mean? Does this mean if I text someone
from overseas, my number could be withheld and my text would not then
be recognised by Messenger as coming from me? It would say 'Unknown
caller' and not get read.
Skype used to verify the number by sending a one time passcode to
it. Perhaps they mean something like that?
How would that work? If somebody spoofed my number, would they then
get the one-time password?
Or they might use STIR/SHAKEN
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 16:47:01 +0100, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 11:33:42 +0100, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
[snip]
Today, we are proposing that telecoms companies should withhold the >>>>caller ID of calls that appear to come from a UK mobile roaming abroad >>>>unless they can verify its validity. This follows engagement with >>>>industry on how providers could best protect people from calls spoofing >>>>UK mobile numbers without hindering customers calling home from abroad." >>>> >>>>https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/scam-calls-and-messages/consultation-tackling-scam-calls-from-abroad
What does 'verify its validity' mean? Does this mean if I text someone
from overseas, my number could be withheld and my text would not then
be recognised by Messenger as coming from me? It would say 'Unknown
caller' and not get read.
Skype used to verify the number by sending a one time passcode to
it. Perhaps they mean something like that?
How would that work? If somebody spoofed my number, would they then
get the one-time password?
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 11:33:42 +0100, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
"Ofcom is today proposing to strengthen its guidance on how telecoms
companies should protect people in the UK from international calls that
imitate UK mobile numbers.
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/scam-calls-and-messages/consultation-tackling-scam-calls-from-abroad
This ceased to be an issue for me since I bought a phone with TrueCall
built in. Problem solved,
unless the crooks were somehow to get hold of my contacts list or managed
to guess correctly.
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 16:49:54 +0100, Codger <codger524@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 11:33:42 +0100, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
"Ofcom is today proposing to strengthen its guidance on how telecoms >>>companies should protect people in the UK from international calls that >>>imitate UK mobile numbers.
One way that criminal gangs prey on victims is by imitating - or >>>rCyspoofingrCO- phone numbers , and callers that potential victims might >>>trust, such as UK mobile numbers, so their calls are more likely to be >>>answered. Fraudsters based abroad often spoof UK numbers, knowing people >>>are more likely to pick up these calls than if an unknown international >>>number is displayed.
Ofcom research reveals that, in February 2025, two in five phone users >>>(42%) said they received a suspicious call in the last three months. We >>>found that people are more trusting of calls coming from UK mobile >>>numbers (+447) than they are of calls from withheld or international >>>numbers.
A quarter (26%) said they were likely or very likely to pick up a call >>>from an unrecognised UK mobile number, compared to just one in ten (9%) >>>who would answer a call showing an international number with an >>>unrecognised country code. Strengthening protections
Last year, we strengthened our industry guidance in this area, telling >>>phone companies to identify and block calls from abroad that falsely >>>display a UK landline number as the caller ID, except in a limited
number of legitimate use cases.
Currently, there is an exemption from blocking calls from abroad that >>>display a UK mobile caller ID. This is to allow people who are roaming >>>abroad to display their number to family and friends when they call
them.
Today, we are proposing that telecoms companies should withhold the >>>caller ID of calls that appear to come from a UK mobile roaming abroad >>>unless they can verify its validity. This follows engagement with >>>industry on how providers could best protect people from calls spoofing >>>UK mobile numbers without hindering customers calling home from abroad."
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/scam-calls-and-messages/consultation-tackling-scam-calls-from-abroad
This ceased to be an issue for me since I bought a phone with TrueCall built in. Problem solved,
unless the crooks were somehow to get hold of my contacts list or managed to guess correctly.
What does TrueCall do if it encounters your own number?
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 17:17:03 +0100, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 16:49:54 +0100, Codger <codger524@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 11:33:42 +0100, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
"Ofcom is today proposing to strengthen its guidance on how telecoms >>>>companies should protect people in the UK from international calls that >>>>imitate UK mobile numbers.
One way that criminal gangs prey on victims is by imitating - or >>>>aspoofingA- phone numbers , and callers that potential victims might >>>>trust, such as UK mobile numbers, so their calls are more likely to be >>>>answered. Fraudsters based abroad often spoof UK numbers, knowing people >>>>are more likely to pick up these calls than if an unknown international >>>>number is displayed.
Ofcom research reveals that, in February 2025, two in five phone users >>>>(42%) said they received a suspicious call in the last three months. We >>>>found that people are more trusting of calls coming from UK mobile >>>>numbers (+447) than they are of calls from withheld or international >>>>numbers.
A quarter (26%) said they were likely or very likely to pick up a call >>>>from an unrecognised UK mobile number, compared to just one in ten (9%) >>>>who would answer a call showing an international number with an >>>>unrecognised country code. Strengthening protections
Last year, we strengthened our industry guidance in this area, telling >>>>phone companies to identify and block calls from abroad that falsely >>>>display a UK landline number as the caller ID, except in a limited >>>>number of legitimate use cases.
Currently, there is an exemption from blocking calls from abroad that >>>>display a UK mobile caller ID. This is to allow people who are roaming >>>>abroad to display their number to family and friends when they call >>>>them.
Today, we are proposing that telecoms companies should withhold the >>>>caller ID of calls that appear to come from a UK mobile roaming abroad >>>>unless they can verify its validity. This follows engagement with >>>>industry on how providers could best protect people from calls spoofing >>>>UK mobile numbers without hindering customers calling home from abroad." >>>> >>>>https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/scam-calls-and-messages/consultation-tackling-scam-calls-from-abroad
This ceased to be an issue for me since I bought a phone with TrueCall built in. Problem solved,
unless the crooks were somehow to get hold of my contacts list or managed to guess correctly.
What does TrueCall do if it encounters your own number?
To find out I'd have to ring the number I'm calling from which I don't think would work.
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 17:17:03 +0100, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 16:49:54 +0100, Codger <codger524@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 11:33:42 +0100, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
"Ofcom is today proposing to strengthen its guidance on how telecoms >>>>companies should protect people in the UK from international calls
that imitate UK mobile numbers.
One way that criminal gangs prey on victims is by imitating - or >>>>rCyspoofingrCO- phone numbers , and callers that potential victims might >>>>trust, such as UK mobile numbers, so their calls are more likely to
be answered. Fraudsters based abroad often spoof UK numbers, knowing >>>>people are more likely to pick up these calls than if an unknown >>>>international number is displayed.
Ofcom research reveals that, in February 2025, two in five phone
users (42%) said they received a suspicious call in the last three >>>>months. We found that people are more trusting of calls coming from
UK mobile numbers (+447) than they are of calls from withheld or >>>>international numbers.
A quarter (26%) said they were likely or very likely to pick up a
call from an unrecognised UK mobile number, compared to just one in
ten (9%) who would answer a call showing an international number
with an unrecognised country code. Strengthening protections
Last year, we strengthened our industry guidance in this area,
telling phone companies to identify and block calls from abroad that >>>>falsely display a UK landline number as the caller ID, except in a >>>>limited number of legitimate use cases.
Currently, there is an exemption from blocking calls from abroad
that display a UK mobile caller ID. This is to allow people who are >>>>roaming abroad to display their number to family and friends when
they call them.
Today, we are proposing that telecoms companies should withhold the >>>>caller ID of calls that appear to come from a UK mobile roaming
abroad unless they can verify its validity. This follows engagement >>>>with industry on how providers could best protect people from calls >>>>spoofing UK mobile numbers without hindering customers calling home >>>>from abroad."
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/scam-calls-and-messages/consultation-tackling-scam-calls-from-abroad
This ceased to be an issue for me since I bought a phone with
TrueCall built in. Problem solved, unless the crooks were somehow to
get hold of my contacts list or managed to guess correctly.
What does TrueCall do if it encounters your own number?
To find out I'd have to ring the number I'm calling from which I don't
think would work.
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 23:29:08 +0100, Codger <codger524@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 17:17:03 +0100, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 16:49:54 +0100, Codger <codger524@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 11:33:42 +0100, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
"Ofcom is today proposing to strengthen its guidance on how telecoms >>>>>companies should protect people in the UK from international calls that >>>>>imitate UK mobile numbers.
One way that criminal gangs prey on victims is by imitating - or >>>>>rCyspoofingrCO- phone numbers , and callers that potential victims might >>>>>trust, such as UK mobile numbers, so their calls are more likely to be >>>>>answered. Fraudsters based abroad often spoof UK numbers, knowing people >>>>>are more likely to pick up these calls than if an unknown international >>>>>number is displayed.
Ofcom research reveals that, in February 2025, two in five phone users >>>>>(42%) said they received a suspicious call in the last three months. We >>>>>found that people are more trusting of calls coming from UK mobile >>>>>numbers (+447) than they are of calls from withheld or international >>>>>numbers.
A quarter (26%) said they were likely or very likely to pick up a call >>>>>from an unrecognised UK mobile number, compared to just one in ten (9%) >>>>>who would answer a call showing an international number with an >>>>>unrecognised country code. Strengthening protections
Last year, we strengthened our industry guidance in this area, telling >>>>>phone companies to identify and block calls from abroad that falsely >>>>>display a UK landline number as the caller ID, except in a limited >>>>>number of legitimate use cases.
Currently, there is an exemption from blocking calls from abroad that >>>>>display a UK mobile caller ID. This is to allow people who are roaming >>>>>abroad to display their number to family and friends when they call >>>>>them.
Today, we are proposing that telecoms companies should withhold the >>>>>caller ID of calls that appear to come from a UK mobile roaming abroad >>>>>unless they can verify its validity. This follows engagement with >>>>>industry on how providers could best protect people from calls spoofing >>>>>UK mobile numbers without hindering customers calling home from abroad." >>>>> >>>>>https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/scam-calls-and-messages/consultation-tackling-scam-calls-from-abroad
This ceased to be an issue for me since I bought a phone with TrueCall built in. Problem solved,
unless the crooks were somehow to get hold of my contacts list or managed to guess correctly.
What does TrueCall do if it encounters your own number?
To find out I'd have to ring the number I'm calling from which I don't think would work.
Can you block your own number as a precaution?