• Re: TV Licence

    From JNugent@JNugent73@mail.com to uk.tech.digital-tv on Mon Jul 21 12:30:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 21/06/2025 10:39 PM, Jeff Layman wrote:

    On 10/06/2025 15:45, JNugent wrote:
    On 04/06/2025 06:11 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
    JNugent wrote:

    You wouldn't watch your own off-air video-recording (VHS / DVD-R / PVR >>>> / Whatever) via internet streaming, would you?

    You might, if you were away from home and wanted to watch something
    unavailable locally to where you are.

    Sounds like a very clever and probably next to non-existent, case.
    Easier to download to an iPad before leaving.

    Can you download /any/ TV programme to /any/ computer for off-air use,
    and download it simply? I'm sure I've noticed odd programmes that aren't available for streaming after live broadcasting.

    Not without some way of circumventing the policies of the broadcaster.

    Only certain programmes are downloadable to a portable device, and even
    then, one of the conditions seems to be that if the device is equipped
    with a hard drive and connections out to the real world, that device
    will not download any programmes at all. For example, I can download
    movies from BBC iPlayer or Prime Video to an iPad, but not to an Apple MacBook.

    And streamed programmes aren't viewable using slo-mo or frame stepping
    in the way that older PVRs can (the new ones don't seem to be able to do
    it).

    I prefer Sky+HD. It doesn't "do" streaming. Anything on catch-up is
    downloaded to the drive and watchable in the same way as if it had been recorded off-air. A few movies from Sky Cinema are copy-protected.


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  • From Bob Latham@bob@sick-of-spam.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Mon Jul 21 13:33:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    In article <me6mm2Fshv9U1@mid.individual.net>,
    JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:

    I prefer Sky+HD. It doesn't "do" streaming. Anything on catch-up is downloaded to the drive and watchable in the same way as if it had
    been recorded off-air.

    +1 SkyQ much the same, especially good for people with very poor
    internet connections, it can sort out a download in its own time. You
    can also start watching the download with only a couple of minutes of
    the item downloaded.

    It is very good but expensive.

    A few movies from Sky Cinema are copy-protected.

    Feed the hdmi into a modulator, record the output on a PVR.

    Bob.

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  • From JNugent@JNugent73@mail.com to uk.tech.digital-tv on Mon Jul 21 14:22:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 21/07/2025 01:33 PM, Bob Latham wrote:

    JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:

    I prefer Sky+HD. It doesn't "do" streaming. Anything on catch-up is
    downloaded to the drive and watchable in the same way as if it had
    been recorded off-air.

    +1 SkyQ much the same, especially good for people with very poor
    internet connections, it can sort out a download in its own time. You
    can also start watching the download with only a couple of minutes of
    the item downloaded.

    I had Sky Q, but the lack of a SCART output was too much to stomach. I
    sent it back and reverted to Sky+HD.

    It is very good but expensive.

    I think Sky installed Q for free, and (of course) left the old Sky+HD
    box with me. When I got rhem to come and take the Q box away, I assumed
    they would reconnect the Sky+ box that I had carefullystored away. But
    no - they gave me a new one (meaning that I still have in good condition
    as a spare).

    A few movies from Sky Cinema are copy-protected.

    Feed the hdmi into a modulator, record the output on a PVR.

    There's an easier way...
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  • From Abandoned Trolley@that.bloke@microsoft.com to uk.tech.digital-tv on Mon Jul 21 18:53:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 21/07/2025 14:22, JNugent wrote:
    On 21/07/2025 01:33 PM, Bob Latham wrote:

    -a-a-a JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:

    I prefer Sky+HD. It doesn't "do" streaming. Anything on catch-up is
    downloaded to the drive and watchable in the same way as if it had
    been recorded off-air.

    +1 SkyQ much the same, especially good for people with very poor
    internet connections, it can sort out a download in its own time. You
    can also start watching the download with only a couple of minutes of
    the item downloaded.

    I had Sky Q, but the lack of a SCART output was too much to stomach. I
    sent it back and reverted to Sky+HD.

    It is very good but expensive.

    I think Sky installed Q for free, and (of course) left the old Sky+HD
    box with me. When I got rhem to come and take the Q box away, I assumed
    they would reconnect the Sky+ box that I had carefullystored away. But
    no - they gave me a new one (meaning that I still have in good condition
    as a spare).

    A few movies from Sky Cinema are copy-protected.

    Feed the hdmi into a modulator, record the output on a PVR.

    There's an easier way...


    HDMI capture card plugs in to a PCIe socket on your PC ? - or some of
    them just plug in to a USB socket ?

    The raw video you want will fall out of the back of one of those Roku
    boxes or some other STB ?
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  • From Bob Latham@bob@sick-of-spam.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Tue Jul 22 18:05:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    In article <me6t87FtjvuU1@mid.individual.net>,
    JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:
    On 21/07/2025 01:33 PM, Bob Latham wrote:

    JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:

    [Snip]

    I had Sky Q, but the lack of a SCART output was too much to
    stomach. I sent it back and reverted to Sky+HD.

    I don't have any need for analogue video so the lack of SCART wasn't
    an issue. What we didn't and still don't like are the graphical
    listings for your recording and things but the big advantage of Q is
    virtually no limit on how many simultaneous recordings you can do
    without a clash. Everything worth watching is on at the same time.

    [Snip]

    A few movies from Sky Cinema are copy-protected.

    Feed the hdmi into a modulator, record the output on a PVR.

    There's an easier way...

    Please enlighten ...

    Bob.

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  • From Scott@newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk to uk.tech.digital-tv on Tue Jul 22 18:11:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 1 Jun 2025 07:39:51 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    On 31/05/2025 in message <101fu9a$1fpqv$1@dont-email.me> JMB99 wrote:

    On 31/05/2025 21:22, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    I watch less and less live TV and I'm getting more and more fed up with >>>the BBC who ignore complaints and feel the Bronze Buffoon is our new king >>>and so give him a great chunk or air time each night. We have just >>>commemorated the 85th anniversary of the Dunkirk evacuation but if you >>>only watched BBC you wouldn't know it (I managed to find some quite good >>>films on YouTube).

    I saw quite a number of programmes about Dunkirk, what channels were you >>watching?

    BBC News24 - only channel I watch live!

    I now prefer Sky News.
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  • From Scott@newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk to uk.tech.digital-tv on Tue Jul 22 18:22:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On Sun, 01 Jun 2025 10:20:04 +0100, Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    On 31 May 2025 20:22:59 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    Is anybody here aware of a definitive guide to what is needed to legally >>give up my TV licence? I have a vague feeling that you have to get rid of >>anything that is capable of receiving live TV but need a reliable steer.

    You don't need to get rid of anything. The TV licence is for the *use*
    of equipment, not its ownership. You can own as many TV sets as you
    like without a licence. You need a licence to watch or record what is
    now called 'live' TV, i.e. broadcast TV, or TV recieved via any other
    service *at the same time as it is being broadcast*.

    At one time was it not something like establishing radio receiving
    equipment with an argument that it was necessary to remove the main
    valve to prevent it falling within the definition - or am I thinking
    of the transmission licence?
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  • From JNugent@JNugent73@mail.com to uk.tech.digital-tv on Wed Jul 23 01:04:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 22/07/2025 06:05 PM, Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <me6t87FtjvuU1@mid.individual.net>,
    JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:
    On 21/07/2025 01:33 PM, Bob Latham wrote:

    JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:

    [Snip]

    I had Sky Q, but the lack of a SCART output was too much to
    stomach. I sent it back and reverted to Sky+HD.

    I don't have any need for analogue video so the lack of SCART wasn't
    an issue. What we didn't and still don't like are the graphical
    listings for your recording and things but the big advantage of Q is virtually no limit on how many simultaneous recordings you can do
    without a clash. Everything worth watching is on at the same time.

    [Snip]

    A few movies from Sky Cinema are copy-protected.

    Feed the hdmi into a modulator, record the output on a PVR.

    There's an easier way...

    Please enlighten ...

    Not out in the open!
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  • From Bob Latham@bob@sick-of-spam.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Thu Jul 24 09:43:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    In article <mhhv7k5genu0orlmtp8acsjcbgmkuc29vp@4ax.com>,
    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    BBC News24 - only channel I watch live!

    I now prefer Sky News.

    Those channels are amazing, they are completely captured by woke
    ideology neither have the remotest connection to reality.

    Now had you said Sky news Australia, that would have been very
    different, they speak some sense.

    :-)

    Bob.
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  • From JNugent@JNugent73@mail.com to uk.tech.digital-tv on Thu Jul 24 11:39:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 24/07/2025 09:43 AM, Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <mhhv7k5genu0orlmtp8acsjcbgmkuc29vp@4ax.com>,
    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    BBC News24 - only channel I watch live!

    I now prefer Sky News.

    Those channels are amazing, they are completely captured by woke
    ideology neither have the remotest connection to reality.

    Now had you said Sky news Australia, that would have been very
    different, they speak some sense.

    :-)

    Bob.

    +1.
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  • From Java Jive@java@evij.com.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Thu Jul 24 14:47:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 2025-07-24 09:43, Bob Latham wrote:
    In article <mhhv7k5genu0orlmtp8acsjcbgmkuc29vp@4ax.com>,
    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    BBC News24 - only channel I watch live!

    I now prefer Sky News.

    Those channels are amazing, they are completely captured by woke
    ideology neither have the remotest connection to reality.

    Now had you said Sky news Australia, that would have been very
    different, they speak some sense.

    SNA have been completely captured by right-wing fake news, as your
    frequent links to their lies during the Australian wild fires of a few
    years back consistently showed. Smiley or no, you're doing the Russians
    a fine service with your constant calling attention to their divisive right-wing propaganda. Award yourself a Red Star, Komrad.
    --

    Fake news kills!

    I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk

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