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Having a play with my Panasonic TV (see above thread), I decided to turn
on the Home Network Server setting and have a look at the Remote Device
List to see what it could connect to. It showed four "devices", all
without a Device Name, and all with a MAC Address that couldn't I
identify as belonging to any of the possible devices I have which can
connect by wifi (router, laptop, and mobile phone). I can choose to
permit a connection or not to each device, but as I don't know what they
are, I chose to not connect and just backed out.

Anyone got a wifi-enabled Panasonic TV? What devices does it show in the
Home Network Server setting, and are they identifiable?
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On 27/08/2025 in message <108mm1l$jt5u$1@dont-email.me> Jeff Layman wrote:

Having a play with my Panasonic TV (see above thread), I decided to turn
on the Home Network Server setting and have a look at the Remote Device
List to see what it could connect to. It showed four "devices", all
without a Device Name, and all with a MAC Address that couldn't I identify >as belonging to any of the possible devices I have which can connect by
wifi (router, laptop, and mobile phone). I can choose to permit a
connection or not to each device, but as I don't know what they are, I
chose to not connect and just backed out.

Anyone got a wifi-enabled Panasonic TV? What devices does it show in the >Home Network Server setting, and are they identifiable?

Does your computer pick up the devices in Explorer/Finder/whatever? May be easier to identify.
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On Wed 27/08/2025 11:18, Jeff Layman wrote:

Having a play with my Panasonic TV (see above thread), I decided to turn
on the Home Network Server setting and have a look at the Remote Device
List to see what it could connect to. It showed four "devices", all
without a Device Name, and all with a MAC Address that couldn't I
identify as belonging to any of the possible devices I have which can connect by wifi (router, laptop, and mobile phone). I can choose to
permit a connection or not to each device, but as I don't know what they are, I chose to not connect and just backed out.

Anyone got a wifi-enabled Panasonic TV? What devices does it show in the Home Network Server setting, and are they identifiable?

I had a Panny 38in smart TV for a while but had to return it (thankfully
JLP) as it kept forgetting the programming. I replaced it with a LG
smart to add to the Samsung we already have. Of the two - although it is
not so user friendly as the Samsung - IMO the LG is a much better piece
of kit and has a better panel. It also has built-in Freesat which does
show the difference when watching MoTD!

IIRC the MAC address of the Panny was printed on the product number
(etc) label on the back.
Per the items that show up on your network, have you tried connecting
the TV directly to your network - or directly to a laptop - by cable?
The laptop at least should show up what is really happening.

I would however suggest that if possible you always connect by cable as
it will operate much more reliably that way. How many people complain
that their broadband has gone down when in fact it is because there are
too many people locally on the same channel? It is not helped by the
fact that BT routers limit the accessible channels.

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On 2025-08-27 11:18, Jeff Layman wrote:

Having a play with my Panasonic TV (see above thread), I decided to turn
on the Home Network Server setting and have a look at the Remote Device
List to see what it could connect to. It showed four "devices", all
without a Device Name, and all with a MAC Address that couldn't I
identify as belonging to any of the possible devices I have which can connect by wifi (router, laptop, and mobile phone). I can choose to
permit a connection or not to each device, but as I don't know what they are, I chose to not connect and just backed out.

Anyone got a wifi-enabled Panasonic TV? What devices does it show in the Home Network Server setting, and are they identifiable?

Can't help with that specific hardware, but, more generally, be aware
that most hardware usually has different MAC addresses for each
networking component, so different MAC addresses for their cabled and
WiFi connections. In your case, perhaps your own router is there, but
you're looking for its cabled MAC address when you should be looking for
its WiFi MAC address? The others are probably the WiFi MAC addresses of neighbours' routers.
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On 27/08/2025 11:18, Jeff Layman wrote:

Having a play with my Panasonic TV (see above thread), I decided to turn
on the Home Network Server setting and have a look at the Remote Device
List to see what it could connect to. It showed four "devices", all
without a Device Name, and all with a MAC Address that couldn't I
identify as belonging to any of the possible devices I have which can
connect by wifi (router, laptop, and mobile phone). I can choose to
permit a connection or not to each device, but as I don't know what they
are, I chose to not connect and just backed out.

Anyone got a wifi-enabled Panasonic TV? What devices does it show in the
Home Network Server setting, and are they identifiable?

Thanks for the replies. I should first say that I have no experience of setting up networks, generally just allowing "wizards" - if they exist -
to do what is necessary.

I'm running Linux Mint, and although there is a "Networks" folder in
Nemo - its file explorer - this doesn't seem to show anything (this
seems to be an old issue with Nemo). Looking in Mint's WiFi settings, I
can find my router (two possibilities - the usual connection and one I
set up for guests), my mobile phone, and I guess two or three
neighbours' routers. If I look at the WiFi setting for these, it shows
the same Mac address for all of them! None of the Panasonic MAC
addresses are the same though. My router is not connected by ethernet to anything.

If I want to play anything on the laptop through the TV I just plug in
an HDMI cable. It always works, but that's the only time I connect up
the TV to the laptop. I must admit that I didn't know the TV had an
ethernet (RJ45) socket! The manual is pretty sparse when it comes to the ethernet connection. It does, however, describe in detail how to use the
WiFi to set up the TV as a wireless access point, and to connect network equipment without an access point. I think, however, that in my case
"where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise" applies as I don't
want to mess up anything which works ok at present by fiddling with the
TV's "network" settings.
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On 27/08/2025 11:18, Jeff Layman wrote:

Having a play with my Panasonic TV (see above thread), I decided to turn
on the Home Network Server setting and have a look at the Remote Device
List to see what it could connect to. It showed four "devices", all
without a Device Name, and all with a MAC Address that couldn't I
identify as belonging to any of the possible devices I have which can connect by wifi (router, laptop, and mobile phone). I can choose to
permit a connection or not to each device, but as I don't know what they are, I chose to not connect and just backed out.

Anyone got a wifi-enabled Panasonic TV? What devices does it show in the Home Network Server setting, and are they identifiable?

I have used the DLNA server on my Panasonic for years to stream TV over
my network. The list of MAC addresses are all devices on your network so unless you have a major network security problem you can leave them all ticked. Anyway, that just enables the device to view the stream from the
TV. File sharing settings are another part of the menu and show a list
of devices with their network name or IP address.
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Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-08-27 11:18, Jeff Layman wrote:

Having a play with my Panasonic TV (see above thread), I decided to turn on the Home Network Server setting and have a look at the Remote Device List to see what it could connect to. It showed four "devices", all without a Device Name, and all with a MAC Address that couldn't I
identify as belonging to any of the possible devices I have which can connect by wifi (router, laptop, and mobile phone). I can choose to
permit a connection or not to each device, but as I don't know what they are, I chose to not connect and just backed out.

Anyone got a wifi-enabled Panasonic TV? What devices does it show in the Home Network Server setting, and are they identifiable?

Can't help with that specific hardware, but, more generally, be aware
that most hardware usually has different MAC addresses for each
networking component, so different MAC addresses for their cabled and
WiFi connections. In your case, perhaps your own router is there, but you're looking for its cabled MAC address when you should be looking for
its WiFi MAC address? The others are probably the WiFi MAC addresses of neighbours' routers.

Most recent mobile phones use a random locally generated MAC address
evey time they connect, it supposedly improves their security by
making them more difficult to recognise or track.
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On 2025-08-27 18:42, Chris Green wrote:

Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-08-27 11:18, Jeff Layman wrote:

Having a play with my Panasonic TV (see above thread), I decided to turn >>> on the Home Network Server setting and have a look at the Remote Device
List to see what it could connect to. It showed four "devices", all
without a Device Name, and all with a MAC Address that couldn't I
identify as belonging to any of the possible devices I have which can
connect by wifi (router, laptop, and mobile phone). I can choose to
permit a connection or not to each device, but as I don't know what they >>> are, I chose to not connect and just backed out.

Anyone got a wifi-enabled Panasonic TV? What devices does it show in the >>> Home Network Server setting, and are they identifiable?

Can't help with that specific hardware, but, more generally, be aware
that most hardware usually has different MAC addresses for each
networking component, so different MAC addresses for their cabled and
WiFi connections. In your case, perhaps your own router is there, but
you're looking for its cabled MAC address when you should be looking for
its WiFi MAC address? The others are probably the WiFi MAC addresses of
neighbours' routers.

Most recent mobile phones use a random locally generated MAC address
evey time they connect, it supposedly improves their security by
making them more difficult to recognise or track.

Indeed, but the OP is discussing his TV, and what it can see. As I've
already said, I'm not familiar with that hardware, but I presume from
his post that it's looking for an router or AP to connect to. Unless specifically someone has turned on AP functionality on a particular
mobile for a particular reason, by default, any mobiles within range of
the TV should not be acting as APs.
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Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-08-27 18:42, Chris Green wrote:

Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-08-27 11:18, Jeff Layman wrote:

Having a play with my Panasonic TV (see above thread), I decided to turn >>> on the Home Network Server setting and have a look at the Remote Device >>> List to see what it could connect to. It showed four "devices", all
without a Device Name, and all with a MAC Address that couldn't I
identify as belonging to any of the possible devices I have which can
connect by wifi (router, laptop, and mobile phone). I can choose to
permit a connection or not to each device, but as I don't know what they >>> are, I chose to not connect and just backed out.

Anyone got a wifi-enabled Panasonic TV? What devices does it show in the >>> Home Network Server setting, and are they identifiable?

Can't help with that specific hardware, but, more generally, be aware
that most hardware usually has different MAC addresses for each
networking component, so different MAC addresses for their cabled and
WiFi connections. In your case, perhaps your own router is there, but
you're looking for its cabled MAC address when you should be looking for >> its WiFi MAC address? The others are probably the WiFi MAC addresses of >> neighbours' routers.

Most recent mobile phones use a random locally generated MAC address
evey time they connect, it supposedly improves their security by
making them more difficult to recognise or track.

Indeed, but the OP is discussing his TV, and what it can see.

Surely it wiil 'see' all the other devices in the LAN. Or are you
talking about what it shows you when asking it to connect? It's not
really clear from the OP's description (or the Panasonic TV's wording
of what it's doing) whether 'the Home Network Server setting' means
what WiFi APs it can see or what it can see after it has connected.

As I've

already said, I'm not familiar with that hardware, but I presume from
his post that it's looking for an router or AP to connect to. Unless specifically someone has turned on AP functionality on a particular
mobile for a particular reason, by default, any mobiles within range of
the TV should not be acting as APs.

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On 28/08/2025 08:50, Chris Green wrote:

Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-08-27 18:42, Chris Green wrote:

Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-08-27 11:18, Jeff Layman wrote:

Having a play with my Panasonic TV (see above thread), I decided to turn >>>>> on the Home Network Server setting and have a look at the Remote Device >>>>> List to see what it could connect to. It showed four "devices", all
without a Device Name, and all with a MAC Address that couldn't I
identify as belonging to any of the possible devices I have which can >>>>> connect by wifi (router, laptop, and mobile phone). I can choose to
permit a connection or not to each device, but as I don't know what they >>>>> are, I chose to not connect and just backed out.

Anyone got a wifi-enabled Panasonic TV? What devices does it show in the >>>>> Home Network Server setting, and are they identifiable?

Can't help with that specific hardware, but, more generally, be aware
that most hardware usually has different MAC addresses for each
networking component, so different MAC addresses for their cabled and
WiFi connections. In your case, perhaps your own router is there, but >>>> you're looking for its cabled MAC address when you should be looking for >>>> its WiFi MAC address? The others are probably the WiFi MAC addresses of >>>> neighbours' routers.

Most recent mobile phones use a random locally generated MAC address
evey time they connect, it supposedly improves their security by
making them more difficult to recognise or track.

Indeed, but the OP is discussing his TV, and what it can see.

Surely it wiil 'see' all the other devices in the LAN. Or are you
talking about what it shows you when asking it to connect? It's not
really clear from the OP's description (or the Panasonic TV's wording
of what it's doing) whether 'the Home Network Server setting' means
what WiFi APs it can see or what it can see after it has connected.

"Home Network Server" is what might have appeared as "DLNA Server" in
the Panasonic network menu. This is from a North American site, but it
/seems/ to show how "DLNA Server" is used: <https://help.na.panasonic.com/answers/how-to-setup-and-stream-using-dlna-on-a-panasonic-television/>.


Looking at each picture in turn, it is slightly different from mine in
that it doesn't use the term "Viera Menu". However, it seems the same up
to 5, but after pressing OK when "Network link" is selected, I get Home Network Server instead of DLNA server. If I now go through the steps up
to 9, when I choose "Apps" there is no "DLNA Server" app. There's no
Home Network Server app for that matter either.

As I mentioned in my OP, I don't know what the TV is seeing because it
just gives me a MAC address but not the device name associated with that
MAC address. I just looked again and the TV shows the same four MAC
addresses it showed yesterday. I had my mobile phone WiFi turned off, so turned it on expecting the TV to now show five MAC addresses, but it
still showed the same four. The /only/ WiFi devices I have on are my
Panasonic TV, FRITZ!Box Router, laptop, and a weather station console. Checking the laptop and weather console in the FRITZ!Box WiFi info shows
that their MAC addresses are different from those shown by the Panasonic TV.

My mobile phone shows the FRITZ!Box router - main and guest - available,
and a Vodafone router available (sometimes another Vodafone router
appears). My laptop is the same.
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On 28/08/2025 14:04, Jeff Layman wrote:

On 28/08/2025 08:50, Chris Green wrote:

Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-08-27 18:42, Chris Green wrote:

Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-08-27 11:18, Jeff Layman wrote:

Having a play with my Panasonic TV (see above thread), I decided
to turn
on the Home Network Server setting and have a look at the Remote
Device
List to see what it could connect to. It showed four "devices", all >>>>>> without a Device Name, and all with a MAC Address that couldn't I
identify as belonging to any of the possible devices I have which can >>>>>> connect by wifi (router, laptop, and mobile phone). I can choose to >>>>>> permit a connection or not to each device, but as I don't know
what they
are, I chose to not connect and just backed out.

Anyone got a wifi-enabled Panasonic TV? What devices does it show >>>>>> in the
Home Network Server setting, and are they identifiable?

Can't help with that specific hardware, but, more generally, be aware >>>>> that most hardware usually has different MAC addresses for each
networking component, so different MAC addresses for their cabled and >>>>> WiFi connections.-a In your case, perhaps your own router is there, but >>>>> you're looking for its cabled MAC address when you should be
looking for
its WiFi MAC address?-a The others are probably the WiFi MAC
addresses of
neighbours' routers.

Most recent mobile phones use a random locally generated MAC address
evey time they connect, it supposedly improves their security by
making them more difficult to recognise or track.

Indeed, but the OP is discussing his TV, and what it can see.

Surely it wiil 'see' all the other devices in the LAN.-a Or are you
talking about what it shows you when asking it to connect?-a It's not
really clear from the OP's description (or the Panasonic TV's wording
of what it's doing) whether 'the Home Network Server setting' means
what WiFi APs it can see or what it can see after it has connected.

"Home Network Server" is what might have appeared as "DLNA Server" in
the Panasonic network menu. This is from a North American site, but it /seems/ to show how "DLNA Server" is used: <https://help.na.panasonic.com/answers/how-to-setup-and-stream-using-dlna-on-a-panasonic-television/>.

Looking at each picture in turn, it is slightly different from mine in
that it doesn't use the term "Viera Menu". However, it seems the same up
to 5, but after pressing OK when "Network link" is selected, I get Home Network Server instead of DLNA server. If I now go through the steps up
to 9, when I choose "Apps" there is no "DLNA Server" app. There's no
Home Network Server app for that matter either.

As I mentioned in my OP, I don't know what the TV is seeing because it
just gives me a MAC address but not the device name associated with that
MAC address. I just looked again and the TV shows the same four MAC addresses it showed yesterday. I had my mobile phone WiFi turned off, so turned it on expecting the TV to now show five MAC addresses, but it
still showed the same four. The /only/ WiFi devices I have on are my Panasonic TV, FRITZ!Box Router, laptop, and a weather station console. Checking the laptop and weather console in the FRITZ!Box WiFi info shows that their MAC addresses are different from those shown by the Panasonic
TV.

My mobile phone shows the FRITZ!Box router - main and guest - available,
and a Vodafone router available (sometimes another Vodafone router
appears). My laptop is the same.

I explained what you are looking at yesterday. No need to look at North American sites, its described in the TV's electronic help.

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On 2025-08-28 08:50, Chris Green wrote:

Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-08-27 18:42, Chris Green wrote:

Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

On 2025-08-27 11:18, Jeff Layman wrote:

Having a play with my Panasonic TV (see above thread), I decided to turn >>>>> on the Home Network Server setting and have a look at the Remote Device >>>>> List to see what it could connect to. It showed four "devices", all
without a Device Name, and all with a MAC Address that couldn't I
identify as belonging to any of the possible devices I have which can >>>>> connect by wifi (router, laptop, and mobile phone). I can choose to
permit a connection or not to each device, but as I don't know what they >>>>> are, I chose to not connect and just backed out.

Anyone got a wifi-enabled Panasonic TV? What devices does it show in the >>>>> Home Network Server setting, and are they identifiable?

Can't help with that specific hardware, but, more generally, be aware
that most hardware usually has different MAC addresses for each
networking component, so different MAC addresses for their cabled and
WiFi connections. In your case, perhaps your own router is there, but >>>> you're looking for its cabled MAC address when you should be looking for >>>> its WiFi MAC address? The others are probably the WiFi MAC addresses of >>>> neighbours' routers.

Most recent mobile phones use a random locally generated MAC address
evey time they connect, it supposedly improves their security by
making them more difficult to recognise or track.

Indeed, but the OP is discussing his TV, and what it can see.

Surely it wiil 'see' all the other devices in the LAN. Or are you
talking about what it shows you when asking it to connect?

He said "I chose to not connect and just backed out", so surely he can
only mean the latter?

It's not
really clear from the OP's description (or the Panasonic TV's wording
of what it's doing) whether 'the Home Network Server setting' means
what WiFi APs it can see or what it can see after it has connected.

I agree that the wording of the TV as quoted is somewhat ambiguous, but
his own statement of his problem is unambiguous enough.

BTW, your ng client seems to be set up incorrectly, and is incorrectly including my sig in the quoted text.
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