• Re: Buying a new TV

    From Graham.@usenet@yopmail.com to uk.tech.digital-tv on Tue Jul 8 01:49:00 2025
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    I'm sorry, the wi-fi router?

    I've never thought the router to be a culprit for spaffing passwords
    to 'the cloud' but the devices you hang on the wi-fi especially if
    running google code (or other bad boys) do have that potential.

    Bob.

    I'm a trialist for Giffgaff's upcoming FTTP offering.
    They sent me their router, an Amazon eero 6+.
    it's a hub for additional eero mesh devices, and for any AWS IoT
    devices you might have.
    If you choose to link it to your Amazon account it actually tells you
    that your chosen SSID and encryption key are sent to AWS "to make
    adding devices hassle-free".
    --
    Graham.

    %Profound_observation%
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  • From Bob Latham@bob@sick-of-spam.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Wed Jul 9 09:53:22 2025
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    In article <0vpo6kpsj9n2h2aagrn3mtk8oqlr8jncro@4ax.com>, Graham. <usenet@yopmail.com> wrote:


    I've never thought the router to be a culprit for spaffing
    passwords to 'the cloud' but the devices you hang on the wi-fi
    especially if running google code (or other bad boys) do have that >potential.


    I'm a trialist for Giffgaff's upcoming FTTP offering. They sent me
    their router, an Amazon eero 6+. it's a hub for additional eero
    mesh devices, and for any AWS IoT devices you might have. If you
    choose to link it to your Amazon account it actually tells you that
    your chosen SSID and encryption key are sent to AWS "to make adding
    devices hassle-free".

    OK so I was wrong I didn't see a router being so anti-security. It's
    kind of their job.

    Do you you have to use that router and can you bin it for something
    more responsible that takes security seriously?

    Bob.

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  • From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.tech.digital-tv on Wed Jul 9 10:49:32 2025
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    Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <0vpo6kpsj9n2h2aagrn3mtk8oqlr8jncro@4ax.com>, Graham. <usenet@yopmail.com> wrote:


    I've never thought the router to be a culprit for spaffing
    passwords to 'the cloud' but the devices you hang on the wi-fi
    especially if running google code (or other bad boys) do have that
    potential.


    I'm a trialist for Giffgaff's upcoming FTTP offering. They sent me
    their router, an Amazon eero 6+. it's a hub for additional eero
    mesh devices, and for any AWS IoT devices you might have. If you
    choose to link it to your Amazon account it actually tells you that
    your chosen SSID and encryption key are sent to AWS "to make adding
    devices hassle-free".

    OK so I was wrong I didn't see a router being so anti-security. It's
    kind of their job.

    Do you you have to use that router and can you bin it for something
    more responsible that takes security seriously?

    Bob.



    In practical terms what is the risk? The attacker has to be within radio
    range of your router. Then what? They get to use your connection. The real issue is the security of the admin password and whether or not the router
    can be taken over remotely, with or without the password.

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  • From richard@richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) to uk.tech.digital-tv on Wed Jul 9 11:49:26 2025
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    In article <0vpo6kpsj9n2h2aagrn3mtk8oqlr8jncro@4ax.com>,
    Graham. <usenet@yopmail.com> wrote:

    If you choose to link it to your Amazon account it actually tells you
    that your chosen SSID and encryption key are sent to AWS "to make
    adding devices hassle-free".

    You can "manage" this in the preferences tab of "manage your content
    and devices" on the Amazon web site.

    As far as I recall, all my Amazon devices (e.g. kindle) have asked
    before doing this, and I've always said no. And I'm not sure how it
    works - how can a device retrieve a password from Amazon before it has
    a wifi connection? Perhaps it connects to other Amazon devices to ask
    them.

    -- Richard
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  • From Bob Latham@bob@sick-of-spam.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Thu Jul 10 10:21:28 2025
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    In article <104lhfs$6o75$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:


    In practical terms what is the risk? The attacker has to be within
    radio range of your router. Then what? They get to use your
    connection. The real issue is the security of the admin password
    and whether or not the router can be taken over remotely, with or
    without the password.

    I'm retired now so no longer an issue. In my last employment I had
    confidential information on my home computer. In my head, I can hear
    the judge - 'So you knew that your home wifi was not secure and that
    it put confidential material at risk and you did nothing about it,
    you continued knowingly.'

    Bob.

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  • From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.tech.digital-tv on Thu Jul 10 09:37:46 2025
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    Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <104lhfs$6o75$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:


    In practical terms what is the risk? The attacker has to be within
    radio range of your router. Then what? They get to use your
    connection. The real issue is the security of the admin password
    and whether or not the router can be taken over remotely, with or
    without the password.

    I'm retired now so no longer an issue. In my last employment I had confidential information on my home computer. In my head, I can hear
    the judge - 'So you knew that your home wifi was not secure and that
    it put confidential material at risk and you did nothing about it,
    you continued knowingly.'

    Bob.



    Your home computer should be properly secured. If you had confidential information you should take steps to encrypt it. Those are the steps the
    judge would be interested in.

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  • From Bob Latham@bob@sick-of-spam.invalid to uk.tech.digital-tv on Thu Jul 10 21:10:30 2025
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    In article <104o1l9$prul$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

    Your home computer should be properly secured. If you had
    confidential information you should take steps to encrypt it.

    In my case it wasn't as simple as that but I don't wish to argue.

    Too clever by half you are.

    Bob.

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