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I have my Humax Fox T2 programmed to record the 6-part series of Ben
Robinson's 'Villages by the Sea'. It successfully recorded the first
two episodes.
The third episode was supposed to be yesterday, like the other at 7:30
pm. on BBC2. The 'to be recorded' screen confirmed this.
But suddenly, the program to be shown changed to something entirely
different, but the Humax still thought that it was Ben Robinson, and
recorded it. The actual programme shown was SOS Mountain Rescue, or some
such title.
Does this mean the the BBC failed to update the codes that tell the
Humax what is what? Or if not, what?
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On 16/08/2025 22:50, Davey wrote:

I have my Humax Fox T2 programmed to record the 6-part series of Ben Robinson's 'Villages by the Sea'. It successfully recorded the first
two episodes.
The third episode was supposed to be yesterday, like the other at 7:30
pm. on BBC2. The 'to be recorded' screen confirmed this.
But suddenly, the program to be shown changed to something entirely different, but the Humax still thought that it was Ben Robinson, and
recorded it. The actual programme shown was SOS Mountain Rescue, or some
such title.
Does this mean the the BBC failed to update the codes that tell the
Humax what is what? Or if not, what?

How often does the Humax poll an internet database or the EPG embedded
in the DVB-T/S streams for updates to the schedule?

It may be that when it last polled the EPG, it listed the Villages by
the Sea programme so that is what the Humax recorded. The series-link
code is used only to identify successive episodes of a series that you
have asked to be recorded - so it is used at each EPG update that the
Humax does.

Late-breaking changes, since the EPG polling event, will not be seen by
the Humax. They are a PITA - especially if the programme is shown but at
a different time. Programmes which are completely replaced by another
are likely to be shown on a different date, so you have chance to record
them at that time. But ones on the same day, but delayed, are deemed to
have been shown.

There was a lot of that at the time of the Queen's death. All normal
scheduled programmes were replaced by biographical programmes, but even *those* weren't shown at the time that the off-air EPG and Digiguide
said they would be: the transmission times were often changed at very
short notice. I set my TVHeadend Raspberry Pi PVR to update its EPG
every hour, and set about an hour's pre- and post-padding to each
recording, so I stood a better chance of recording Queen-related
programmes that I wanted. It seemed that broadcasters prioritised live talking-heads discussions above pre-recorded tributes. I'm not talking
about ceremonial events such as the funeral, and the proclamation of the
King; I'm talking about studio-based discussions which are under the broadcasters' control.
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On 16/08/2025 22:50, Davey wrote:

But suddenly, the program to be shown changed to something entirely different, but the Humax still thought that it was Ben Robinson, and
recorded it. The actual programme shown was SOS Mountain Rescue, or some
such title.

I think I heard them saying that there was a change in programme, there
can be a whole range of reasons for a change.

The Villages by the Sea series has been shown at least once (and more
likely twice) previously.


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On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 07:43:06 +0100
JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:

On 16/08/2025 22:50, Davey wrote:

But suddenly, the program to be shown changed to something entirely different, but the Humax still thought that it was Ben Robinson, and recorded it. The actual programme shown was SOS Mountain Rescue, or
some such title.

I think I heard them saying that there was a change in programme,
there can be a whole range of reasons for a change.

The Villages by the Sea series has been shown at least once (and more
likely twice) previously.

I did not hear any such announcement, but then, I was expecting one.
But I have not seen this particular series before, so I want(ed) to
record it for viewing when convenient. Even the Radio Times had it as
showing, although I know that is produced some time beforehand.
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Davey.

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On 17/08/2025 09:17 AM, Davey wrote:

JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:

On 16/08/2025 22:50, Davey wrote:

But suddenly, the program to be shown changed to something entirely
different, but the Humax still thought that it was Ben Robinson, and
recorded it. The actual programme shown was SOS Mountain Rescue, or
some such title.

I think I heard them saying that there was a change in programme,
there can be a whole range of reasons for a change.

The Villages by the Sea series has been shown at least once (and more
likely twice) previously.

I did not hear any such announcement, but then, I was expecting one.
But I have not seen this particular series before, so I want(ed) to
record it for viewing when convenient. Even the Radio Times had it as showing, although I know that is produced some time beforehand.

Series 1 and 2 of "Villages By The Sea" are available on iPlayer, if
that helps.
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On 17/08/2025 11:49 AM, JNugent wrote:

On 17/08/2025 09:17 AM, Davey wrote:

JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:

On 16/08/2025 22:50, Davey wrote:

But suddenly, the program to be shown changed to something entirely
different, but the Humax still thought that it was Ben Robinson, and
recorded it. The actual programme shown was SOS Mountain Rescue, or
some such title.

I think I heard them saying that there was a change in programme,
there can be a whole range of reasons for a change.

The Villages by the Sea series has been shown at least once (and more
likely twice) previously.

I did not hear any such announcement, but then, I was expecting one.
But I have not seen this particular series before, so I want(ed) to
record it for viewing when convenient. Even the Radio Times had it as
showing, although I know that is produced some time beforehand.

Series 1 and 2 of "Villages By The Sea" are available on iPlayer, if
that helps.

QUICK UPDATE:

I hadn't scrolled down the screen. In fact, Series 1 - *5* are available
on iPlayer.

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On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 11:50:43 +0100
JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:

On 17/08/2025 11:49 AM, JNugent wrote:

On 17/08/2025 09:17 AM, Davey wrote:

JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:

On 16/08/2025 22:50, Davey wrote:

But suddenly, the program to be shown changed to something
entirely different, but the Humax still thought that it was Ben
Robinson, and recorded it. The actual programme shown was SOS
Mountain Rescue, or some such title.

I think I heard them saying that there was a change in programme,
there can be a whole range of reasons for a change.

The Villages by the Sea series has been shown at least once (and
more likely twice) previously.

I did not hear any such announcement, but then, I was expecting
one. But I have not seen this particular series before, so I
want(ed) to record it for viewing when convenient. Even the Radio
Times had it as showing, although I know that is produced some
time beforehand.

Series 1 and 2 of "Villages By The Sea" are available on iPlayer, if
that helps.

QUICK UPDATE:

I hadn't scrolled down the screen. In fact, Series 1 - *5* are
available on iPlayer.

It does, and was where I was going to look for them later. But it still
doesn't explain what happened with the scheduled broadcasts:
1. Why were only 2 episodes, of a 6 episode series, shown?
2. Why did the series recording code still point to 'Villages by the
Sea'?

I mean on the BBC's side of things.

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On 17/08/2025 04:27 PM, Davey wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 11:50:43 +0100
JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:

On 17/08/2025 11:49 AM, JNugent wrote:

On 17/08/2025 09:17 AM, Davey wrote:

> JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:

On 16/08/2025 22:50, Davey wrote:

But suddenly, the program to be shown changed to something
entirely different, but the Humax still thought that it was Ben
Robinson, and recorded it. The actual programme shown was SOS
Mountain Rescue, or some such title.

I think I heard them saying that there was a change in programme,
there can be a whole range of reasons for a change.

The Villages by the Sea series has been shown at least once (and
more likely twice) previously.

I did not hear any such announcement, but then, I was expecting
one. But I have not seen this particular series before, so I
want(ed) to record it for viewing when convenient. Even the Radio
Times had it as showing, although I know that is produced some
time beforehand.

Series 1 and 2 of "Villages By The Sea" are available on iPlayer, if
that helps.

QUICK UPDATE:

I hadn't scrolled down the screen. In fact, Series 1 - *5* are
available on iPlayer.

It does, and was where I was going to look for them later. But it still doesn't explain what happened with the scheduled broadcasts:
1. Why were only 2 episodes, of a 6 episode series, shown?
2. Why did the series recording code still point to 'Villages by the
Sea'?

I mean on the BBC's side of things.

Pass.

Perhaps a letter to "Points of View"? ;-)
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 15:33:56 +0100
JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:

On 17/08/2025 04:27 PM, Davey wrote:

On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 11:50:43 +0100
JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> wrote:

On 17/08/2025 11:49 AM, JNugent wrote:

On 17/08/2025 09:17 AM, Davey wrote:

> JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> wrote:

On 16/08/2025 22:50, Davey wrote:

But suddenly, the program to be shown changed to something
entirely different, but the Humax still thought that it was Ben
Robinson, and recorded it. The actual programme shown was SOS
Mountain Rescue, or some such title.

I think I heard them saying that there was a change in
programme, there can be a whole range of reasons for a change.

The Villages by the Sea series has been shown at least once (and
more likely twice) previously.

I did not hear any such announcement, but then, I was expecting
one. But I have not seen this particular series before, so I
want(ed) to record it for viewing when convenient. Even the Radio
Times had it as showing, although I know that is produced some
time beforehand.

Series 1 and 2 of "Villages By The Sea" are available on iPlayer,
if that helps.

QUICK UPDATE:

I hadn't scrolled down the screen. In fact, Series 1 - *5* are
available on iPlayer.

It does, and was where I was going to look for them later. But it
still doesn't explain what happened with the scheduled broadcasts:
1. Why were only 2 episodes, of a 6 episode series, shown?
2. Why did the series recording code still point to 'Villages by the
Sea'?

I mean on the BBC's side of things.

Pass.

Perhaps a letter to "Points of View"? ;-)

The same thing has happened to tonight's programme about Ozzy Osborne
Coming Home. It's vanished from the EPG.
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Davey.

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On 18/08/2025 16:46, Davey wrote:

The same thing has happened to tonight's programme about Ozzy Osborne
Coming Home. It's vanished from the EPG.

At least that has been reported on the BBC News page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly41jzxxmpo
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