• Different timesteps

    From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.tech.broadcast on Sat Sep 20 08:41:37 2025
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    When playing back a TV or radio programme on the BBC website, there's a pause/play button in the middle, and either side of that a button to
    step back or forward a fixed amount.

    I've just noticed that it's 10 seconds for TV ("iPlayer"), and 20
    seconds for radio ("SOUNDS"). Anyone know why?
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Veni, Vidi, Video (I came, I saw, I'll watch it again later)
    - Mik from S+AS Limited (mik@saslimited.demon.co.uk), 1998

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  • From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.tech.broadcast on Sat Sep 20 08:15:07 2025
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    J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
    When playing back a TV or radio programme on the BBC website, there's a pause/play button in the middle, and either side of that a button to
    step back or forward a fixed amount.

    I've just noticed that it's 10 seconds for TV ("iPlayer"), and 20
    seconds for radio ("SOUNDS"). Anyone know why?

    Different developers?


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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.tech.broadcast on Sat Sep 20 09:39:21 2025
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    On 2025/9/20 9:15:7, Tweed wrote:
    J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
    When playing back a TV or radio programme on the BBC website, there's a
    pause/play button in the middle, and either side of that a button to
    step back or forward a fixed amount.

    I've just noticed that it's 10 seconds for TV ("iPlayer"), and 20
    seconds for radio ("SOUNDS"). Anyone know why?

    Different developers?


    Seems plausible; but, they are too similar - both having the same layout
    of pause control with the "curls" either side - to not have been agreed
    by some specifier, who I'm surprised accepted the difference.

    I could guess that _maybe_ someone thought you needed longer steps for
    radio, but I don't think that level of thinking-about-it is really there.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    At the end of the day, I wasn't asking to kill the pandas, I was simply
    asking for an audit in terms of conservation resources, and I stand by
    every word. -Chris Packham, quoted in Radio Times, 29 May - 4 June 2010
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  • From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.tech.broadcast on Sat Sep 20 08:48:29 2025
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    J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
    On 2025/9/20 9:15:7, Tweed wrote:
    J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
    When playing back a TV or radio programme on the BBC website, there's a
    pause/play button in the middle, and either side of that a button to
    step back or forward a fixed amount.

    I've just noticed that it's 10 seconds for TV ("iPlayer"), and 20
    seconds for radio ("SOUNDS"). Anyone know why?

    Different developers?


    Seems plausible; but, they are too similar - both having the same layout
    of pause control with the "curls" either side - to not have been agreed
    by some specifier, who I'm surprised accepted the difference.

    I could guess that _maybe_ someone thought you needed longer steps for
    radio, but I don't think that level of thinking-about-it is really there.

    YourCOd be surprised how lax most specifications are. Probably much more
    effort went into specifying where the branding goes and what it looks like.


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  • From MikeS@MikeS@fred.com to uk.tech.broadcast on Sat Sep 20 18:58:12 2025
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    On 20/09/2025 09:39, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/9/20 9:15:7, Tweed wrote:
    J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
    When playing back a TV or radio programme on the BBC website, there's a
    pause/play button in the middle, and either side of that a button to
    step back or forward a fixed amount.

    I've just noticed that it's 10 seconds for TV ("iPlayer"), and 20
    seconds for radio ("SOUNDS"). Anyone know why?

    Different developers?


    Seems plausible; but, they are too similar - both having the same layout
    of pause control with the "curls" either side - to not have been agreed
    by some specifier, who I'm surprised accepted the difference.

    I could guess that _maybe_ someone thought you needed longer steps for
    radio, but I don't think that level of thinking-about-it is really there.

    The steps require buffering somewhere and TV uses more data than radio?
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.tech.broadcast on Sat Sep 20 19:14:23 2025
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    On 2025/9/20 18:58:12, MikeS wrote:
    On 20/09/2025 09:39, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/9/20 9:15:7, Tweed wrote:
    J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
    When playing back a TV or radio programme on the BBC website, there's a >>>> pause/play button in the middle, and either side of that a button to
    step back or forward a fixed amount.

    I've just noticed that it's 10 seconds for TV ("iPlayer"), and 20
    seconds for radio ("SOUNDS"). Anyone know why?

    Different developers?


    Seems plausible; but, they are too similar - both having the same layout
    of pause control with the "curls" either side - to not have been agreed
    by some specifier, who I'm surprised accepted the difference.

    I could guess that _maybe_ someone thought you needed longer steps for
    radio, but I don't think that level of thinking-about-it is really there.

    The steps require buffering somewhere and TV uses more data than radio?

    By a lot more than 2:1, though!
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    "We're plumbing shallows we didn't know existed here" - Jeremy Paxman
    (as quizmaster of "University Challenge"), 1998 (when losing team
    suddenly put on a spurt by showing knowledge of things like the
    Eurovision Song Contest ...)
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