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    From =?UTF-8?B?aGVybWVuZXV0aWth?=@hermeneutika@msn.com to uk.religion.christian on Wed Oct 8 10:12:08 2025
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    Massive elephant in the room!! Dissent happens even in the Bible!!
    Ac 15:39 And the contention was so sharp between them, that they departed asunder one from the other: and so Barnabas took Mark, and sailed unto Cyprus;
    Are we allowed to dissent from the prevailing "orthodoxy" .......???
    Lu 10:26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
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  • From Timreason@timreason@hotmail.co.uk to uk.religion.christian on Wed Oct 8 14:48:49 2025
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    On 08/10/2025 11:12, hermeneutika wrote:
    Massive elephant in the room!! Dissent happens even in the Bible!!

    Ac 15:39 And the contention was so sharp between them, that they departed asunder one from the other: and so Barnabas took Mark, and sailed unto Cyprus;

    Are we allowed to dissent from the prevailing "orthodoxy" .......???

    Lu 10:26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?


    Maybe we just have to move on to a looser association within the
    provinces of Anglicanism. Perhaps centring on a shared history or
    heritage rather than total agreement on every issue, which just ain't
    gonna happen.

    Look at your first scripture quote above, it shows that splits and
    divisions happened almost right at the start! I have heard it said by
    some people over the years, that these very splits helped to ensure that
    the Gospel was spread more widely.

    Then, there is your comment, "Are we allowed to dissent from the
    prevailing "orthodoxy"". I think that's happened throughout history as
    the Church has evolved. So yes, we are. Indeed, Jesus' very teachings
    were a move away from the 'orthodoxy' at the time of His Earthly ministry.

    Then your last quote: "Lu 10:26 He said unto him, What is written in
    the law? how readest thou?"

    Yep. 'How readest thou?'. IOW, how do we interpret and understand?

    So, people interpret things in different ways, and perhaps more
    importantly, they *prioritise* things differently.

    Yes, we all know St Paul's talk about "It is shameful for a woman to
    speak in church", etc. But some people say that is a hard-and-fast rule
    for all time, where as others say it should be deemed to be culturally
    (and perhaps even circumstance) specific.

    We live in a very different time and culture, and today women are deemed
    to be the equal of men and their 'traditional' roles have changed. In St Paul's time, women were often considered and treated more like property
    than fellow human beings, and therefore didn't often receive full
    education. These days they ARE properly educated, and therefore
    absolutely fully capable of fulfilling all roles in the Church.

    Personally, I think it is a good, rather than bad thing, that there are
    so many expressions of 'church'. It means there is a home for everybody.
    So if your church is too 'conservative', or too 'liberal', too 'high' or
    too 'low', don't worry, there's another one just around the corner that
    might suit you better.

    My only regret is that Jeff has passed on, so we can't enjoy his
    response to this development!

    Tim.




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  • From Kendall K. Down@kendallkdown@googlemail.com to uk.religion.christian on Thu Oct 9 06:38:08 2025
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    On 08/10/2025 14:48, Timreason wrote:

    My only regret is that Jeff has passed on, so we can't enjoy his
    response to this development!

    He he.

    God bless,
    Kendall K. Down
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