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Starmer wants to introduce digital ID cards on smartphones.We'll have to see what he actually says ... The Times is saying
Hymermut wrote:
Starmer wants to introduce digital ID cards on smartphones.We'll have to see what he actually says ... The Times is saying
"workers" will need an ID to get a narj wbo, the BBC is saying all "UK adults" will need one.
I don't see how the contents of my smartphone prevents people getting on
a dinghy ...
Hymermut wrote:
Starmer wants to introduce digital ID cards on smartphones.We'll have to see what he actually says ... The Times is saying
"workers" will need an ID to get a narj wbo, the BBC is saying all "UK adults" will need one.
I don't see how the contents of my smartphone prevents people getting on
a dinghy ...
Starmer wants to introduce digital ID cards on smartphones.
Does that mean I won't exist? Don't have a smartphone. Don't want a >smartphone.
I'm happy to carry a printed ID card. Did that for many years in the RN.
But in any case, do I look like an illegal immigrant?
And, I bet digital ID cards will easily be forged by the hackers.
Tone (Hands on hips. Double teapot.)
All adults legally allowed to jbex in the UK already have an ID which uniquely identifies them, it is called your National Insurance Number.
All adults legally allowed to jbex in the UK already have an ID which
uniquely identifies them, it is called your National Insurance Number.
I read somewhere a while ago that there are about 5 million more
"active" NI numbers than people on the census of working age.
On 25/09/2025 20:52, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
All adults legally allowed to jbex in the UK already have an ID which
uniquely identifies them, it is called your National Insurance Number.
I read somewhere a while ago that there are about 5 million more
"active" NI numbers than people on the census of working age.
That could be. I have an active NI number,but am no longer of "jbexvat
ntr", as I am a pensioner.
Also, the younger end of jbexvat ntr is somewhat elastic, and it is
legal and possible to get one while still at skule.
On 25/09/2025 21:19, John Williamson wrote:
That could be. I have an active NI number,but am no longer of "jbexvat
ntr", as I am a pensioner.
Also, the younger end of jbexvat ntr is somewhat elastic, and it is
legal and possible to get one while still at skule.
and what sort of ID do you need to provide in orde to get one ?" a passport from any country
On 25/09/2025 19:02, Andy Burns wrote:
Hymermut wrote:
Starmer wants to introduce digital ID cards on smartphones.We'll have to see what he actually says ... The Times is saying
"workers" will need an ID to get a narj wbo, the BBC is saying all "UK
adults" will need one.
I don't see how the contents of my smartphone prevents people getting on
a dinghy ...
He is using the immigration situation as an excuse. The real aim is to
make it harder for people to claim benefits.
If you need unforgeable proof of ID, it will need to carry, as a
minimum, a secure way to access full, current biometric details of the
person wanting to use it. Holding these only on a local device is easily forgeable and easy to fake. Then there is the problem of keeping the
remote database securely read only and up to date.
The profile would also mean that anywhere you need to use it, you would
need a scanner capable of checking that profile. This can not be trusted
to a camera or other scanner on the device holding the data, for obvious reasons. Getting the data there and back securely was solved long ago,
and my phone does that even just for phone calls. All that actually
needs to travel across the network is the hash value of the data, anyway.
What it can not do is prevent the current -u100 billion tax avoidance/ evasion problem or situations where employers just check that the
employee has an appropriate number of limbs and is still warm. Produce a reasonable visual facsimile, and the delivery guy at the door could be anyone, as is the case now.
On 25/09/2025 19:02, Andy Burns wrote:
I don't see how the contents of my smartphone prevents people getting on
a dinghy ...
It can't.
All adults legally allowed to jbex in the UK already have an ID which
uniquely identifies them, it is called your National Insurance Number.
I read somewhere a while ago that there are about 5 million more
"active" NI numbers than people on the census of working age.
Starmer wants to introduce digital ID cards on smartphones.
Does that mean I won't exist? Don't have a smartphone. Don't want a smartphone.
I'm happy to carry a printed ID card. Did that for many years in the RN.
But in any case, do I look like an illegal immigrant?
Starmer wants to introduce digital ID cards on smartphones.
Does that mean I won't exist? Don't have a smartphone. Don't want a smartphone.--
I'm happy to carry a printed ID card. Did that for many years in the RN.
But in any case, do I look like an illegal immigrant?
And, I bet digital ID cards will easily be forged by the hackers.
Tone (Hands on hips. Double teapot.)
On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 18:56:08 +0100, Hymermut <tone@email.com> wrote:
Starmer wants to introduce digital ID cards on smartphones.
Does that mean I won't exist? Don't have a smartphone. Don't want a
smartphone.
I'm happy to carry a printed ID card. Did that for many years in the RN.
But in any case, do I look like an illegal immigrant?
And, I bet digital ID cards will easily be forged by the hackers.
Tone (Hands on hips. Double teapot.)
Not to worry - it's just a stop-gap measure ...
.. until the microchip implants arrive from China .. :-)
John T. who does own a smartphone but refers to it
as a texting device.
On 25/09/2025 20:51, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 18:56:08 +0100, Hymermut <tone@email.com> wrote:
Starmer wants to introduce digital ID cards on smartphones.
Does that mean I won't exist? Don't have a smartphone. Don't want a >>>smartphone.
I'm happy to carry a printed ID card. Did that for many years in the RN. >>>But in any case, do I look like an illegal immigrant?
And, I bet digital ID cards will easily be forged by the hackers.
Tone (Hands on hips. Double teapot.)
Not to worry - it's just a stop-gap measure ...
.. until the microchip implants arrive from China .. :-)
John T. who does own a smartphone but refers to it
as a texting device.
So who gets the wbo of implanting those microchips? NHS? or will it be >subcontracted out to SERCO?
The last I heard, those microchips relied on the 3G network, so...
On 30/09/2025 in message <kLWCQ.18$ISNa.13@fx08.ams1> Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 25/09/2025 20:51, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 18:56:08 +0100, Hymermut <tone@email.com> wrote:
Starmer wants to introduce digital ID cards on smartphones.
Does that mean I won't exist? Don't have a smartphone. Don't want a >>>>smartphone.
I'm happy to carry a printed ID card. Did that for many years in the RN. >>>>But in any case, do I look like an illegal immigrant?
And, I bet digital ID cards will easily be forged by the hackers.
Tone (Hands on hips. Double teapot.)
Not to worry - it's just a stop-gap measure ...
.. until the microchip implants arrive from China .. :-)
John T. who does own a smartphone but refers to it
as a texting device.
So who gets the wbo of implanting those microchips? NHS? or will it be >>subcontracted out to SERCO?
The last I heard, those microchips relied on the 3G network, so...
Isn't 3G due to be turned off soon?
Starmer wants to introduce digital ID cards on smartphones.
Does that mean I won't exist? Don't have a smartphone. Don't want a smartphone.
I'm happy to carry a printed ID card. Did that for many years in the RN.
But in any case, do I look like an illegal immigrant?
And, I bet digital ID cards will easily be forged by the hackers.
Hymermut <tone@email.com> wrote:
Starmer wants to introduce digital ID cards on smartphones.
Does that mean I won't exist? Don't have a smartphone. Don't want a smartphone.
I'm happy to carry a printed ID card. Did that for many years in the RN.
But in any case, do I look like an illegal immigrant?
And, I bet digital ID cards will easily be forged by the hackers.
Has NIN disappeared? I'm getting no new messages.
Has NIN disappeared? I'm getting no new messages.
On 25/09/2025 20:51, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
-a-a Not to worry-a --a it's just a stop-gap measure-a ...
-a-a ..-a-a until the microchip implants arrive from China-a ..-a :-)
-a-a-a-a John T.-a-a who does own a smartphone but refers to it
as a texting device.
So who gets the wbo of implanting those microchips?
On 01/10/2025 00:30, me9 wrote:
Has NIN disappeared? I'm getting no new messages.
Usenet is on its last legs.
The only posts I have seen this week have been on uk.rec.sheds, uk.tech.broadcast, uk.rec.waterways, and rec.audio.pro.
The most recent post in free.beer.tomorrow was by our wading friend in July.
Even the spammers seem to have given up.
Has NIN disappeared? I'm getting no new messages.No, but it will in 2 years time
Starmer wants to introduce digital ID cards on smartphones.
Does that mean I won't exist? Don't have a smartphone. Don't want a smartphone.
I'm happy to carry a printed ID card. Did that for many years in the RN.
But in any case, do I look like an illegal immigrant?
And, I bet digital ID cards will easily be forged by the hackers.
Tone (Hands on hips. Double teapot.)
Even the spammers seem to have given up.
On 01/10/2025 00:30, me9 wrote:They are babbling away in alt.usage.english.
Has NIN disappeared? I'm getting no new messages.Usenet is on its last legs.
The only posts I have seen this week have been on uk.rec.sheds, >uk.tech.broadcast, uk.rec.waterways, and rec.audio.pro.
The most recent post in free.beer.tomorrow was by our wading friend in July.
Even the spammers seem to have given up.
On 01/10/2025 00:30, me9 wrote:
Has NIN disappeared? I'm getting no new messages.Usenet is on its last legs.
The only posts I have seen this week have been on uk.rec.sheds, uk.tech.broadcast, uk.rec.waterways, and rec.audio.pro.
The most recent post in free.beer.tomorrow was by our wading friend in July.
Even the spammers seem to have given up.
On 30/09/2025 in message <kLWCQ.18$ISNa.13@fx08.ams1> Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 25/09/2025 20:51, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 18:56:08 +0100, Hymermut <tone@email.com> wrote:
Starmer wants to introduce digital ID cards on smartphones.
Does that mean I won't exist? Don't have a smartphone. Don't want a
smartphone.
I'm happy to carry a printed ID card. Did that for many years in the
RN.
But in any case, do I look like an illegal immigrant?
And, I bet digital ID cards will easily be forged by the hackers.
Tone (Hands on hips. Double teapot.)
-a Not to worry-a --a it's just a stop-gap measure-a ...
-a ..-a-a until the microchip implants arrive from China-a ..-a :-)
-a-a-a John T.-a-a who does own a smartphone but refers to it
as a texting device.
So who gets the wbo of implanting those microchips?-a NHS? or will it
be subcontracted out to SERCO?
The last I heard, those microchips relied on the 3G network, so...
Isn't 3G due to be turned off soon?
On 30/09/2025 21:21, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 30/09/2025 in message <kLWCQ.18$ISNa.13@fx08.ams1> Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 25/09/2025 20:51, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 18:56:08 +0100, Hymermut <tone@email.com> wrote:
Starmer wants to introduce digital ID cards on smartphones.
Does that mean I won't exist? Don't have a smartphone. Don't want a >>>>>smartphone.
I'm happy to carry a printed ID card. Did that for many years in the >>>>>RN.
But in any case, do I look like an illegal immigrant?
And, I bet digital ID cards will easily be forged by the hackers. >>>>>Tone (Hands on hips. Double teapot.)
-a Not to worry-a --a it's just a stop-gap measure-a ...
-a ..-a-a until the microchip implants arrive from China-a ..-a :-) >>>>-a-a-a John T.-a-a who does own a smartphone but refers to it
as a texting device.
So who gets the wbo of implanting those microchips?-a NHS? or will it be >>>subcontracted out to SERCO?
The last I heard, those microchips relied on the 3G network, so...
Isn't 3G due to be turned off soon?
Already gone in several parts of E Anglia
Norwich went over the summer, noticed yesterday that Dereham had gone
The only 3G-ness visible in the outskirts of Ratae is O2, which will supposedly be gone by end of the year, 4G is good here thobut, and 5GThe last I heard, those microchips relied on the 3G network, so...
Isn't 3G due to be turned off soon?
Already gone in several parts of E Anglia
Norwich went over the summer, noticed yesterday that Dereham had gone
It's all we can receive here just outside the New Forest!