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Well, the danger on the rocks is surely past
Still I remain tied to the mast
Could it be that I have found my home at last?
Home at last.
I am a bit of a Dan fan too, but I was thinking of Any World
(from Katy Lied)
solo is PDG too. His 'Nightfly' album is triffic; I've just now put it
on the stereogram.
On 2025-07-31, Sn!pe wrote:
solo is PDG too. His 'Nightfly' album is triffic; I've just now put it
on the stereogram.
I am never sure if this is said tongue in cheek or for real, my grandmother had
a stereogram, a huge piece of furniture that would not qualify as HiFi.
On 2025-07-31, Sn!pe wrote:
solo is PDG too. His 'Nightfly' album is triffic; I've just now put it
on the stereogram.
I am never sure if this is said tongue in cheek or for real, my grandmother had
a stereogram, a huge piece of furniture that would not qualify as HiFi.
my father had a similarly massive LoFi piece of kit
Abandoned Trolley wrote:
my father had a similarly massive LoFi piece of kit
I unforget going with my father to collect a pre-loved stereogram/
wireless from a big house out of town.-a We didn't really have very many records ...
On 31/07/2025 16:32, Simon wrote:
On 2025-07-31, Sn!pe wrote:
solo is PDG too. His 'Nightfly' album is triffic; I've just now put it
on the stereogram.
I am never sure if this is said tongue in cheek or for real, my grandmother had
a stereogram, a huge piece of furniture that would not qualify as HiFi.
my father had a similarly massive LoFi piece of kit, powered by the "legendary" Mullard 5/10 - but NOT in stereo.
Only now its referred to as a "monogram"
Abandoned Trolley wrote:
my father had a similarly massive LoFi piece of kit
I unforget going with my father to collect a pre-loved
stereogram/wireless from a big house out of town. We didn't really have very many records ...
On 31/07/2025 18:42, Andy Burns wrote:
Abandoned Trolley wrote:
my father had a similarly massive LoFi piece of kit
I unforget going with my father to collect a pre-loved stereogram/
wireless from a big house out of town.-a We didn't really have very many
records ...
I think anybody with more than a dozen or so Ellpeees was known as a collector :-\
On 31/07/2025 16:32, Simon wrote:
On 2025-07-31, Sn!pe wrote:Maybe not "high fidelity" but they sounded nice and mellow, which was
solo is PDG too. His 'Nightfly' album is triffic; I've just now put it
on the stereogram.
I am never sure if this is said tongue in cheek or for real, my grandmother had
a stereogram, a huge piece of furniture that would not qualify as HiFi.
what people expected then. It cut down the audibility of the scratches
in the records, and the crackles on the radio.
They also looked very impressive and expensive when the neighbours
dropped in.
On 2025-07-31, John Williamson wrote:
On 31/07/2025 16:32, Simon wrote:Yes, and it was a step up from the radio perched on the mantle piece.
On 2025-07-31, Sn!pe wrote:Maybe not "high fidelity" but they sounded nice and mellow, which was
solo is PDG too. His 'Nightfly' album is triffic; I've just now
put it on the stereogram.
I am never sure if this is said tongue in cheek or for real, my
grandmother had a stereogram, a huge piece of furniture that would
not qualify as HiFi.
what people expected then. It cut down the audibility of the
scratches in the records, and the crackles on the radio.
They also looked very impressive and expensive when the neighbours
dropped in.
Yes, and it was a step up from the radio perched on the mantle piece.
We had a big sit-up-and-beg radio. When it broke I made the mistake of
fixing it. Got a flea in the ear from Dad who wanted an excuse to buy a proper stereogram. So I made sure it broke again and all was well.
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote in news:slrn108ngb6.6b1i.SimonJ@silex.localdomain:
On 2025-07-31, John Williamson wrote:We had a big sit-up-and-beg radio. When it broke I made the mistake of fixing it. Got a flea in the ear from Dad who wanted an excuse to buy a proper stereogram. So I made sure it broke again and all was well.
On 31/07/2025 16:32, Simon wrote:Yes, and it was a step up from the radio perched on the mantle piece.
On 2025-07-31, Sn!pe wrote:Maybe not "high fidelity" but they sounded nice and mellow, which was
solo is PDG too. His 'Nightfly' album is triffic; I've just now
put it on the stereogram.
I am never sure if this is said tongue in cheek or for real, my
grandmother had a stereogram, a huge piece of furniture that would
not qualify as HiFi.
what people expected then. It cut down the audibility of the
scratches in the records, and the crackles on the radio.
They also looked very impressive and expensive when the neighbours
dropped in.
Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:
[...]
Yes, and it was a step up from the radio perched on the mantle piece.
We had a big sit-up-and-beg radio. When it broke I made the mistake of
fixing it. Got a flea in the ear from Dad who wanted an excuse to buy a
proper stereogram. So I made sure it broke again and all was well.
We had a fairly modern (early '60s) wireless with a Magic Eye tuning indicator for the VHF band. It was amazing how much better VHF
sounded than the ancient modulation on long and medium wave.
It had piano key waveband switching too, v. posh.
# No static at all, FM...
On 31/07/2025 16:32, Simon wrote:
On 2025-07-31, Sn!pe wrote:
solo is PDG too. His 'Nightfly' album is triffic; I've just now put it
on the stereogram.
I am never sure if this is said tongue in cheek or for real, my grandmother >had
a stereogram, a huge piece of furniture that would not qualify as HiFi.
my father had a similarly massive LoFi piece of kit, powered by the >"legendary" Mullard 5/10 - but NOT in stereo.
Only now its referred to as a "monogram"
On 31/07/2025 18:42, Andy Burns wrote:
Abandoned Trolley wrote:
my father had a similarly massive LoFi piece of kit
I unforget going with my father to collect a pre-loved stereogram/
wireless from a big house out of town.-a We didn't really have very
many records ...
I think anybody with more than a dozen or so Ellpeees was known as a collector :-\
On 2025-07-31, Andy Burns wrote:
Abandoned Trolley wrote:My mother had a record player which stacked 45's and at the end of each record
my father had a similarly massive LoFi piece of kit
I unforget going with my father to collect a pre-loved
stereogram/wireless from a big house out of town. We didn't really have
very many records ...
would drop the next one and play all in order.
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote in news:slrn108ngb6.6b1i.SimonJ@silex.localdomain:
On 2025-07-31, John Williamson wrote:We had a big sit-up-and-beg radio. When it broke I made the mistake of fixing it. Got a flea in the ear from Dad who wanted an excuse to buy a proper stereogram. So I made sure it broke again and all was well.
On 31/07/2025 16:32, Simon wrote:Yes, and it was a step up from the radio perched on the mantle piece.
On 2025-07-31, Sn!pe wrote:Maybe not "high fidelity" but they sounded nice and mellow, which was
solo is PDG too. His 'Nightfly' album is triffic; I've just now
put it on the stereogram.
I am never sure if this is said tongue in cheek or for real, my
grandmother had a stereogram, a huge piece of furniture that would
not qualify as HiFi.
what people expected then. It cut down the audibility of the
scratches in the records, and the crackles on the radio.
They also looked very impressive and expensive when the neighbours
dropped in.
In article <106g53n$3sj89$1@dont-email.me>, Abandoned Trolley
<that.bloke@microsoft.com> on Thu, 31 Jul 2025 at 17:20:10 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
On 31/07/2025 16:32, Simon wrote:
On 2025-07-31, Sn!pe wrote:had
solo is PDG too. His 'Nightfly' album is triffic; I've just now put it >>>> on the stereogram.
I am never sure if this is said tongue in cheek or for real, my grandmother
a stereogram, a huge piece of furniture that would not qualify as HiFi.
my father had a similarly massive LoFi piece of kit, powered by the >>"legendary" Mullard 5/10 - but NOT in stereo.
Only now its referred to as a "monogram"
WE had a radiogram too. It opened up a bit like a drinks cabinet,
lights and mirrors on the inside. I suppose it must have been stereo,
it had speakers on either side of the 'drinks cabinet'.
Prior to that we had what had been my Granny's pre-war radiogram, thatIf you still have it, it will be worth a fortune now. :-)
had a speaker as big as this little man was at that time.
Simon said:
On 2025-07-31, Andy Burns wrote:
Abandoned Trolley wrote:My mother had a record player which stacked 45's and at the end of each record
my father had a similarly massive LoFi piece of kit
I unforget going with my father to collect a pre-loved
stereogram/wireless from a big house out of town. We didn't really have >>> very many records ...
would drop the next one and play all in order.
Oh yeah. And if ypu stacked too many, they lost the grip and the
pitch/timing wobbled.
On 31/07/2025 16:32, Simon wrote:
On 2025-07-31, Sn!pe wrote:
solo is PDG too. His 'Nightfly' album is triffic; I've just now put it
on the stereogram.
I am never sure if this is said tongue in cheek or for real, my grandmother had
a stereogram, a huge piece of furniture that would not qualify as HiFi.
my father had a similarly massive LoFi piece of kit, powered by the "legendary" Mullard 5/10 - but NOT in stereo.
Only now its referred to as a "monogram"
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote in news:slrn108ngb6.6b1i.SimonJ@silex.localdomain:
On 2025-07-31, John Williamson wrote:
On 31/07/2025 16:32, Simon wrote:Yes, and it was a step up from the radio perched on the mantle piece.
On 2025-07-31, Sn!pe wrote:Maybe not "high fidelity" but they sounded nice and mellow, which was
solo is PDG too. His 'Nightfly' album is triffic; I've just now
put it on the stereogram.
I am never sure if this is said tongue in cheek or for real, my
grandmother had a stereogram, a huge piece of furniture that would
not qualify as HiFi.
what people expected then. It cut down the audibility of the
scratches in the records, and the crackles on the radio.
They also looked very impressive and expensive when the neighbours
dropped in.
We had a big sit-up-and-beg radio. When it broke I made the mistake of fixing it. Got a flea in the ear from Dad who wanted an excuse to buy a proper stereogram. So I made sure it broke again and all was well.
On 2025-07-31, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
In article <106g53n$3sj89$1@dont-email.me>, Abandoned Trolley >><that.bloke@microsoft.com> on Thu, 31 Jul 2025 at 17:20:10 awokeI would not be sure it was stereo, in my youth I used to "fix" these things and
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
On 31/07/2025 16:32, Simon wrote:
On 2025-07-31, Sn!pe wrote:had
solo is PDG too. His 'Nightfly' album is triffic; I've just now put it >>>>> on the stereogram.
I am never sure if this is said tongue in cheek or for real, my grandmother
a stereogram, a huge piece of furniture that would not qualify as HiFi. >>>>
my father had a similarly massive LoFi piece of kit, powered by the >>>"legendary" Mullard 5/10 - but NOT in stereo.
Only now its referred to as a "monogram"
WE had a radiogram too. It opened up a bit like a drinks cabinet,
lights and mirrors on the inside. I suppose it must have been stereo,
it had speakers on either side of the 'drinks cabinet'.
often they were two mono speakers. It was a mono amplifier but two speakers was
a selling point so they had them.
Prior to that we had what had been my Granny's pre-war radiogram, thatIf you still have it, it will be worth a fortune now. :-)
had a speaker as big as this little man was at that time.
In article <slrn108oqgt.32lf.SimonJ@silex.localdomain>, SimonI do miss quality exteriors, even "good" stuff is encased in plastic now. I was very happy to find a Denon system which is all metal and the matching speakers are mostly wood.
<SimonJ@eu.invalid> on Fri, 1 Aug 2025 at 07:17:49 awoke Nicholas from
his slumbers and wrote
On 2025-07-31, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
In article <106g53n$3sj89$1@dont-email.me>, Abandoned Trolley >>><that.bloke@microsoft.com> on Thu, 31 Jul 2025 at 17:20:10 awokeI would not be sure it was stereo, in my youth I used to "fix" these things and
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
On 31/07/2025 16:32, Simon wrote:
On 2025-07-31, Sn!pe wrote:had
solo is PDG too. His 'Nightfly' album is triffic; I've just now put it >>>>>> on the stereogram.
I am never sure if this is said tongue in cheek or for real, my grandmother
a stereogram, a huge piece of furniture that would not qualify as HiFi. >>>>>
my father had a similarly massive LoFi piece of kit, powered by the >>>>"legendary" Mullard 5/10 - but NOT in stereo.
Only now its referred to as a "monogram"
WE had a radiogram too. It opened up a bit like a drinks cabinet,
lights and mirrors on the inside. I suppose it must have been stereo,
it had speakers on either side of the 'drinks cabinet'.
often they were two mono speakers. It was a mono amplifier but two speakers was
a selling point so they had them.
Prior to that we had what had been my Granny's pre-war radiogram, thatIf you still have it, it will be worth a fortune now. :-)
had a speaker as big as this little man was at that time.
:-(
It went the way of the '78', single use steel stylus, the 'valve', Long
Wave and Medium Wave (largely), Hilversum on the dial etc :-( :-(
Even the cabinets were craftsman built.
Even the cabinets were craftsman built.
On 2025-07-31, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
I would not be sure it was stereo, in my youth I used to "fix" these things and
often they were two mono speakers. It was a mono amplifier but two speakers was
a selling point so they had them.
Even the cabinets were craftsman built.
And thats how Hygena Kitchens came to be part of the GEC empire.
They used to make the cabinets for all those Sobell (and other brands) stereograms, and when "that sort of thing" fell out of favour they went
in to the kitchen business
On 01/08/2025 8:17 am, Simon wrote:
On 2025-07-31, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
I would not be sure it was stereo, in my youth I used to "fix" these things and
often they were two mono speakers. It was a mono amplifier but two speakers was
a selling point so they had them.
Our first Stereo was like a normal record player but with a nextension speaker for the other channel - it came with a demonstration LP to prove
it was really stereo.
Huh, well I don't know how I never knew that. Thank you.
On 2025-07-31, Andy Burns wrote:
Abandoned Trolley wrote:
my father had a similarly massive LoFi piece of kit
I unforget going with my father to collect a pre-loved
stereogram/wireless from a big house out of town. We didn't really have very many records ...
My mother had a record player which stacked 45's and at the end of each record would drop the next one and play all in order.
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:[...]
My mother had a record player which stacked 45's and at the end of each record would drop the next one and play all in order.
My mother had one where you wound a handle and it played a record. there was a lever to alter the speed. Some of her records were 80rpm. If you didn't wind the handle enuff it sounded odd by teh end of the record.
me9 <me9@privacy.net> wrote:
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:[...]
My mother had a record player which stacked 45's and at the end of
each record would drop the next one and play all in order.
My mother had one where you wound a handle and it played a record. there was a lever to alter the speed. Some of her records were 80rpm. If you didn't wind the handle enuff it sounded odd by teh end of the record.
78rpm, methinks. As a rugrat in the '50s, I had an old wind-up clockwork gramophone of my own. The needles were replaceable so you could put a new sharp one in when needed. I only erzrzore playing two songs on it,
probably both sides of one record. They were 'The Teddy Bears Picnic' and 'The Laughing Policeman'.
One day, the clockwork spring went sproing and it wouldn't work anymore. Fortunately, nice Mr Glazer from next door fixed it for me; I was most impressed.
Most were 78, but at least two said they were 80rpm.
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
me9 <me9@privacy.net> wrote:Most were 78, but at least two said they were 80rpm.
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:[...]
My mother had a record player which stacked 45's and at the end of
each record would drop the next one and play all in order.
My mother had one where you wound a handle and it played a record. there >>> was a lever to alter the speed. Some of her records were 80rpm. If you
didn't wind the handle enuff it sounded odd by teh end of the record.
78rpm, methinks. As a rugrat in the '50s, I had an old wind-up clockwork
gramophone of my own. The needles were replaceable so you could put a new >> sharp one in when needed. I only erzrzore playing two songs on it,
probably both sides of one record. They were 'The Teddy Bears Picnic' and >> 'The Laughing Policeman'.
One day, the clockwork spring went sproing and it wouldn't work anymore.
Fortunately, nice Mr Glazer from next door fixed it for me; I was most
impressed.
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-07-31, Andy Burns wrote:My mother had one where you wound a handle and it played a record. there was a lever to alter the speed. Some of her records were 80rpm. If you didn't wind the handle enuff it sounded odd by teh end of the record.
Abandoned Trolley wrote:My mother had a record player which stacked 45's and at the end of each
my father had a similarly massive LoFi piece of kit
I unforget going with my father to collect a pre-loved
stereogram/wireless from a big house out of town. We didn't really have >> > very many records ...
record would drop the next one and play all in order.
me9 <me9@privacy.net> wrote:
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:[...]
My mother had a record player which stacked 45's and at the end of each
record would drop the next one and play all in order.
My mother had one where you wound a handle and it played a record. there was >> a lever to alter the speed. Some of her records were 80rpm. If you didn't
wind the handle enuff it sounded odd by teh end of the record.
78rpm, methinks. As a rugrat in the '50s, I had an old wind-up
clockwork gramophone of my own. The needles were replaceable
so you could put a new sharp one in when needed. I only erzrzore
playing two songs on it, probably both sides of one record. They
were 'The Teddy Bears Picnic' and 'The Laughing Policeman'.
One day, the clockwork spring went sproing and it wouldn't work
anymore. Fortunately, nice Mr Glazer from next door fixed it for me;
I was most impressed.
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
me9 <me9@privacy.net> wrote:Most were 78, but at least two said they were 80rpm.
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:[...]
My mother had a record player which stacked 45's and at the end of
each record would drop the next one and play all in order.
My mother had one where you wound a handle and it played a record. there >> > was a lever to alter the speed. Some of her records were 80rpm. If you
didn't wind the handle enuff it sounded odd by teh end of the record.
78rpm, methinks. As a rugrat in the '50s, I had an old wind-up clockwork
gramophone of my own. The needles were replaceable so you could put a new >> sharp one in when needed. I only erzrzore playing two songs on it,
probably both sides of one record. They were 'The Teddy Bears Picnic' and >> 'The Laughing Policeman'.
One day, the clockwork spring went sproing and it wouldn't work anymore.
Fortunately, nice Mr Glazer from next door fixed it for me; I was most
impressed.
Most were 78, but at least two said they were 80rpm.My turntable (gathering dust for the last 20 years) has 33(1/3), 45 and
78 rpm settings. Sadly, no 16 rpm.
My mother had one where you wound a handle and it played a record. there was a lever to alter the speed. Some of her records were 80rpm. If you didn't wind the handle enuff it sounded odd by teh end of the record.
We binned several that had all the speeds on, no need for it when we didn't have
the old records. If only we'd kept all that old stuff. Who new vinyl would be available again today.
On 04/08/2025 1:30 am, me9 wrote:
My mother had one where you wound a handle and it played a record. there was >> a lever to alter the speed. Some of her records were 80rpm. If you didn't
wind the handle enuff it sounded odd by teh end of the record.
I still have one of those; as you say, a few records are 80rpm. Some of them are one-sided too.
Also have one that plays wax cylinders.
On 04/08/2025 7:19 am, Simon wrote:
We binned several that had all the speeds on, no need for it when we didn't have
the old records. If only we'd kept all that old stuff. Who new vinyl would be
available again today.
I'm still waiting for shellac to come back into fashion ... looks as if
I kept the wrong stuff.
On 2025-08-04, me9 wrote:
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
me9 <me9@privacy.net> wrote:Most were 78, but at least two said they were 80rpm.
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:[...]
My mother had a record player which stacked 45's and at the end of
each record would drop the next one and play all in order.
My mother had one where you wound a handle and it played a record. there >>> > was a lever to alter the speed. Some of her records were 80rpm. If you >>> > didn't wind the handle enuff it sounded odd by teh end of the record.
78rpm, methinks. As a rugrat in the '50s, I had an old wind-up clockwork >>> gramophone of my own. The needles were replaceable so you could put a new >>> sharp one in when needed. I only erzrzore playing two songs on it,
probably both sides of one record. They were 'The Teddy Bears Picnic' and >>> 'The Laughing Policeman'.
One day, the clockwork spring went sproing and it wouldn't work anymore. >>> Fortunately, nice Mr Glazer from next door fixed it for me; I was most
impressed.
Haha, that doesn't surprise me really. Given the amount of drugs consumed in the
60's it's amazing they didn't try all different speeds.
On 04/08/2025 1:30 am, me9 wrote:
My mother had one where you wound a handle and it played a record. there was >> a lever to alter the speed. Some of her records were 80rpm. If you didn't
wind the handle enuff it sounded odd by teh end of the record.
I still have one of those; as you say, a few records are 80rpm. Some of >them are one-sided too.
Also have one that plays wax cylinders.
me9 <me9@privacy.net> wrote:
Most were 78, but at least two said they were 80rpm.
Coo, I never heard of that before. [clickety]
Fancy that, courtesy of Wikinaccurate: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_Records>
In article <slrn1090k2t.nsig.SimonJ@silex.localdomain>, Simon
<SimonJ@eu.invalid> on Mon, 4 Aug 2025 at 06:17:01 awoke Nicholas from
his slumbers and wrote
On 2025-08-04, me9 wrote:
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
me9 <me9@privacy.net> wrote:Most were 78, but at least two said they were 80rpm.
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:[...]
My mother had a record player which stacked 45's and at the end of >>>> > > each record would drop the next one and play all in order.
My mother had one where you wound a handle and it played a record. there >>>> > was a lever to alter the speed. Some of her records were 80rpm. If you >>>> > didn't wind the handle enuff it sounded odd by teh end of the record. >>>> >
78rpm, methinks. As a rugrat in the '50s, I had an old wind-up clockwork >>>> gramophone of my own. The needles were replaceable so you could put a new >>>> sharp one in when needed. I only erzrzore playing two songs on it,
probably both sides of one record. They were 'The Teddy Bears Picnic' and >>>> 'The Laughing Policeman'.
One day, the clockwork spring went sproing and it wouldn't work anymore. >>>> Fortunately, nice Mr Glazer from next door fixed it for me; I was most >>>> impressed.
Haha, that doesn't surprise me really. Given the amount of drugs consumed in the
60's it's amazing they didn't try all different speeds.
I presume that is said tongue in cheek, although there is a grain of
truth there. Shellac records stopped being manufactured for sale in
Western Countries from the early 60's to be replaced by vinyl records.
Their sale into some third world countries continued into the seventies.
I presume that an attraction to manufacturers was the cheapness of vinyl (shellac is produced by an insect and is expensive to collect).
The truth is to be found in the enteric coating on some drug pills. The demand for shellac for use as an enteric coating on legitimate drugs has probably increased.
Shellac has many other uses, some quite esoteric, such as French Polish
and others quite mundane such as an insulated coating to hold windings
in place.
As a baby boomer, who was at University in the late 60's I believe that
the pervasive influence of 'recreational' drugs (apart from alcohol) was
much lower then than it is now and that has been the case from the late
70's onward.
On 04/08/2025 7:19 am, Simon wrote:
We binned several that had all the speeds on, no need for it when we
didn't have
the old records. If only we'd kept all that old stuff. Who new vinyl
would be
available again today.
I'm still waiting for shellac to come back into fashion ... looks as if
I kept the wrong stuff.
The only one-sided record I had was a promo of a new single and it was floppy. I
can't remember who or what it was though.
On 04/08/2025 11:05, Simon wrote:
The only one-sided record I had was a promo of a new single and it was floppy. I
can't remember who or what it was though.
I have a few of those floppy single-sided discs - they were occasionally attached to NME and possibly other music papers. One of them has the
title track of ELP's "Brain Salad Surgery" on it - oddly enough, that
title track wasn't included on the LP.
On 2025-08-05, Mike Fleming wrote:
On 04/08/2025 11:05, Simon wrote:
The only one-sided record I had was a promo of a new single
and it was floppy. I can't remember who or what it was though.
I have a few of those floppy single-sided discs - they were occasionally attached to NME and possibly other music papers. One of them has the
title track of ELP's "Brain Salad Surgery" on it - oddly enough, that
title track wasn't included on the LP.
I think I got mine from HMV, they were giving them away. It played fine but there was no sleeve and it was not easy to store.
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-08-05, Mike Fleming wrote:
On 04/08/2025 11:05, Simon wrote:
The only one-sided record I had was a promo of a new single
and it was floppy. I can't remember who or what it was though.
I have a few of those floppy single-sided discs - they were occasionally >> > attached to NME and possibly other music papers. One of them has the
title track of ELP's "Brain Salad Surgery" on it - oddly enough, that
title track wasn't included on the LP.
I think I got mine from HMV, they were giving them away. It played fine but >> there was no sleeve and it was not easy to store.
Private Eye used to put out their Xmas Special with a floppy cover disk
Private Eye used to put out their Xmas Special with a floppy cover disk
On 05/08/2025 3:03 pm, Sn!pe wrote:
The Private Eye one I unforget was double sided with the Trout quintet
Private Eye used to put out their Xmas Special with a floppy cover disk
on the B side, played by (IIRC) I Musici de Neasden.
On 05/08/2025 18:36, Naqerj wrote:
On 05/08/2025 3:03 pm, Sn!pe wrote:
The Private Eye one I unforget was double sided with the Trout quintet
Private Eye used to put out their Xmas Special with a floppy cover disk
on the B side, played by (IIRC) I Musici de Neasden.
The one which sticks in my mind was the Harold Wilson entry for
Eurovision (or was it just an attempt to attract those new 18-year-old voters?) "Puppet on a String", with George Brown on piano.
On 04/08/2025 11:05, Simon wrote:
The only one-sided record I had was a promo of a new single and it was
floppy. I
can't remember who or what it was though.
I have a few of those floppy single-sided discs - they were occasionally attached to NME and possibly other music papers. One of them has the
title track of ELP's "Brain Salad Surgery" on it - oddly enough, that
title track wasn't included on the LP.
I have* one of sound effects from Practical Electronics** - or some
such - from about 1968. Also a Billy Cotton Band special that was a
freebie.
Chris
*Not seen for a few years tho...
**When transistors were a new thing...
"chrisnd@privacy.net" <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote in news:mfgqh6Fug6cU1@mid.individual.net:
I have* one of sound effects from Practical Electronics** - or some
such - from about 1968. Also a Billy Cotton Band special that was a freebie.
Chris
*Not seen for a few years tho...
**When transistors were a new thing...
Red spot and white spot. None of this newfangled OC81 nonsense.
Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:
"chrisnd@privacy.net" <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote in
news:mfgqh6Fug6cU1@mid.individual.net:
I have* one of sound effects from Practical Electronics** - or some
such - from about 1968. Also a Billy Cotton Band special that was a
freebie.
Chris
*Not seen for a few years tho...
**When transistors were a new thing...
Red spot and white spot. None of this newfangled OC81 nonsense.
Hmm... A zero volts filament triode seems a bit unlikely, innit?
How do they get the electrons to leave the cathode?
I have two one-sided 80RPM records, both by a certain Sr E Caruso.
One is a a 10 inch in which the Miestro sings the famous aria
from Viedi's Rigoletto "My Wife Rides a Motorbike".
The other is a 12 inch has him singing that song from
Leoncavallo's opera-aPagliacci
"Nobody wants to look at a naked clown".
On 2025-08-06, Graham. wrote:
I have two one-sided 80RPM records, both by a certain Sr E Caruso.
One is a a 10 inch in which the Miestro sings the famous aria
from Viedi's Rigoletto "My Wife Rides a Motorbike".
The other is a 12 inch has him singing that song from
Leoncavallo's opera Pagliacci
"Nobody wants to look at a naked clown".
So if you don't have an 80rpm player is 78 good enough?
On 2025-08-05, Sn!pe wrote:
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-08-05, Mike Fleming wrote:
On 04/08/2025 11:05, Simon wrote:
The only one-sided record I had was a promo of a new single
and it was floppy. I can't remember who or what it was though.
I have a few of those floppy single-sided discs - they were occasionally >>> > attached to NME and possibly other music papers. One of them has the
title track of ELP's "Brain Salad Surgery" on it - oddly enough, that
title track wasn't included on the LP.
I think I got mine from HMV, they were giving them away. It played fine but >>> there was no sleeve and it was not easy to store.
Private Eye used to put out their Xmas Special with a floppy cover disk
Well I have been living under a rock, I didn't know this at all. Thank you.
Private Eye used to put out their Xmas Special with a floppy cover disk
Well I have been living under a rock, I didn't know this at all. Thank you.
Well I think you can be excused. Private Eye in those days was seen by
The Establishment of the time as a scurrilous scandal sheet with British Public School boy humour.
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote in news:1rgniht.z46v04lnvdj1N%snipeco.2 @gmail.com:
Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:
"chrisnd@privacy.net" <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote in
news:mfgqh6Fug6cU1@mid.individual.net:
I have* one of sound effects from Practical Electronics** - or some >>>> such - from about 1968. Also a Billy Cotton Band special that was a
freebie.
Chris
*Not seen for a few years tho...
**When transistors were a new thing...
Red spot and white spot. None of this newfangled OC81 nonsense.
Hmm... A zero volts filament triode seems a bit unlikely, innit?
How do they get the electrons to leave the cathode?
Electrickery, I shouldn't wonder. Can't be doing with it meself.
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-08-06, Graham. wrote:
I have two one-sided 80RPM records, both by a certain Sr E Caruso.
One is a a 10 inch in which the Miestro sings the famous aria
from Viedi's Rigoletto "My Wife Rides a Motorbike".
The other is a 12 inch has him singing that song from
Leoncavallo's opera Pagliacci
"Nobody wants to look at a naked clown".
So if you don't have an 80rpm player is 78 good enough?
I read somewhere that at least one variety (Edison?) of 80rpm disk
used vertical modulation in the groove rather than lateral as 78s use.
On 06/08/2025 17:32, Peter wrote:
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote in news:1rgniht.z46v04lnvdj1N%snipeco.2Electronickery shurely?
@gmail.com:
Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:Electrickery, I shouldn't wonder. Can't be doing with it meself.
"chrisnd@privacy.net" <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote in
news:mfgqh6Fug6cU1@mid.individual.net:
I have* one of sound effects from Practical Electronics** - or some >>>>> such - from about 1968. Also a Billy Cotton Band special that was a
freebie.
Chris
*Not seen for a few years tho...
**When transistors were a new thing...
Red spot and white spot. None of this newfangled OC81 nonsense.
Hmm... A zero volts filament triode seems a bit unlikely, innit?
How do they get the electrons to leave the cathode?
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-08-06, Graham. wrote:
I have two one-sided 80RPM records, both by a certain Sr E Caruso.
One is a a 10 inch in which the Miestro sings the famous aria
from Viedi's Rigoletto "My Wife Rides a Motorbike".
The other is a 12 inch has him singing that song from
Leoncavallo's opera Pagliacci
"Nobody wants to look at a naked clown".
So if you don't have an 80rpm player is 78 good enough?
I read somewhere that at least one variety (Edison?) of 80rpm disk
used vertical modulation in the groove rather than lateral as 78s use.
In article <slrn10944tl.1p57m.SimonJ@silex.localdomain>, Simon
<SimonJ@eu.invalid> on Tue, 5 Aug 2025 at 14:22:45 awoke Nicholas from
his slumbers and wrote
On 2025-08-05, Sn!pe wrote:
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-08-05, Mike Fleming wrote:
On 04/08/2025 11:05, Simon wrote:
The only one-sided record I had was a promo of a new single
and it was floppy. I can't remember who or what it was though.
I have a few of those floppy single-sided discs - they were occasionally >>>> > attached to NME and possibly other music papers. One of them has the >>>> > title track of ELP's "Brain Salad Surgery" on it - oddly enough, that >>>> > title track wasn't included on the LP.
I think I got mine from HMV, they were giving them away. It played fine but
there was no sleeve and it was not easy to store.
Private Eye used to put out their Xmas Special with a floppy cover disk
Well I have been living under a rock, I didn't know this at all. Thank you.
Well I think you can be excused. Private Eye in those days was seen by
The Establishment of the time as a scurrilous scandal sheet with British Public School boy humour.
That's getting very complicated, nothing like a good standard record.
Electronickery shurely?Electrickery, I shouldn't wonder. Can't be doing with it meself.**When transistors were a new thing...
Red spot and white spot. None of this newfangled OC81 nonsense.
Hmm... A zero volts filament triode seems a bit unlikely, innit?
How do they get the electrons to leave the cathode?
It's actually quantum.
On 06/08/2025 22:35, Sn!pe wrote:Or you will have to lie down to hear it?
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:That's alright. It just means the sound will come out of the other >speaker....
On 2025-08-06, Graham. wrote:
I have two one-sided 80RPM records, both by a certain Sr E Caruso.
One is a a 10 inch in which the Miestro sings the famous aria
from Viedi's Rigoletto "My Wife Rides a Motorbike".
The other is a 12 inch has him singing that song from
Leoncavallo's opera Pagliacci
"Nobody wants to look at a naked clown".
So if you don't have an 80rpm player is 78 good enough?
I read somewhere that at least one variety (Edison?) of 80rpm disk
used vertical modulation in the groove rather than lateral as 78s use.
:-)
Chris
John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
[...]
Electronickery shurely?Electrickery, I shouldn't wonder. Can't be doing with it meself.**When transistors were a new thing...
Red spot and white spot. None of this newfangled OC81 nonsense.
Hmm... A zero volts filament triode seems a bit unlikely, innit?
How do they get the electrons to leave the cathode?
It's actually quantum.
To quantum or not to quantum, that is the question
Whether it is nobler in the mind to uncertainly be
Shroedinger's cat or not, as the case may (or may not) be.
Or to collapse the wave function
And by collapsing it end the uncertainty?
To die? To sleep? To cease to be (or not to be, depending)
[that's enough soliloquising --ed.]
On 07/08/2025 12:23, Simon wrote:
That's getting very complicated, nothing like a good standard record.That ls the beauty of standards, There are so many to choose from.
It's actually quantum.
To quantum or not to quantum, that is the question
Whether it is nobler in the mind to uncertainly be
Shroedinger's cat or not, as the case may (or may not) be.
Or to collapse the wave function
And by collapsing it end the uncertainty?
To die? To sleep? To cease to be (or not to be, depending)
[that's enough soliloquising --ed.]
You have set me wondering whether Reno Descartes was a time traveller,
having travelled backwards* to 1601 when Hamlet was written, forwards to
2025 to read the above explanation of everything and back to 1637 so
that he could write " je pense, donc je suis".
In article <mfjh30Fdpo4U1@mid.individual.net>, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> on Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 12:30:39 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
On 07/08/2025 12:23, Simon wrote:If you are Micr$oft you can write a more convenient standard every
That's getting very complicated, nothing like a good standard record.That ls the beauty of standards, There are so many to choose from.
couple of years.
Chips Challenge
On 07/08/2025 12:23, Simon wrote:
That's getting very complicated, nothing like a good standard record.That ls the beauty of standards, There are so many to choose from.
On 07/08/2025 12:23, Simon wrote:
That's getting very complicated, nothing like a good standard record.That ls the beauty of standards, There are so many to choose from.
In article <mfjh30Fdpo4U1@mid.individual.net>, John Williamson
<johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> on Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 12:30:39 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
On 07/08/2025 12:23, Simon wrote:If you are Micr$oft you can write a more convenient standard every
That's getting very complicated, nothing like a good standard record.That ls the beauty of standards, There are so many to choose from.
couple of years.
On 07/08/2025 13:59, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
In article <mfjh30Fdpo4U1@mid.individual.net>, John WilliamsonIt's not just M$, I am currently being annoyed by a small green robot
<johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> on Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 12:30:39 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
On 07/08/2025 12:23, Simon wrote:If you are Micr$oft you can write a more convenient standard every
That's getting very complicated, nothing like a good standard record.That ls the beauty of standards, There are so many to choose from.
couple of years.
who has obliged me to ohl an arj pooterator (FSVO Pooterator) 'cos theybuggrem tell me I need betterer security. The arj one won't even try
to install the pogrom wot I hfr for my onaxvat, or my fave game, which
was quite happy on the old one.
I have had to resurrect an old 'Doze 8.1 thing which has now been
treated to 'Doze X. It will still run the original DOS Colossal Cave adventure (And Chips Challenge)
Anybody want a couple of almost useless robots? Good for browsing and watching video.
John Williamson said:
Chips Challenge
Is that the ones with Added Cheese-Adjacent Substance ?
John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote in news:mfjh30Fdpo4U1 @mid.individual.net:
On 07/08/2025 12:23, Simon wrote:
That's getting very complicated, nothing like a good standard record.That ls the beauty of standards, There are so many to choose from.
Like the Universal (so-called)Standard Bus. I have a drawer full of adapters to connect various different USB doodahs.
In article <mfjch4FcvkeU3@mid.individual.net>, chrisnd@privacy.net
<chrisnd@privacy.net> on Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 11:12:52 awoke Nicholas
from his slumbers and wrote
On 06/08/2025 22:35, Sn!pe wrote:Or you will have to lie down to hear it?
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:That's alright. It just means the sound will come out of the other >>speaker....
On 2025-08-06, Graham. wrote:
I have two one-sided 80RPM records, both by a certain Sr E Caruso.
One is a a 10 inch in which the Miestro sings the famous aria
from Viedi's Rigoletto "My Wife Rides a Motorbike".
The other is a 12 inch has him singing that song from
Leoncavallo's opera Pagliacci
"Nobody wants to look at a naked clown".
So if you don't have an 80rpm player is 78 good enough?
I read somewhere that at least one variety (Edison?) of 80rpm disk
used vertical modulation in the groove rather than lateral as 78s use.
:-)
Chris
Nicholas D. Richards <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
[...]
It's actually quantum.
To quantum or not to quantum, that is the question
Whether it is nobler in the mind to uncertainly be
Shroedinger's cat or not, as the case may (or may not) be.
Or to collapse the wave function
And by collapsing it end the uncertainty?
To die? To sleep? To cease to be (or not to be, depending)
[that's enough soliloquising --ed.]
You have set me wondering whether Reno Descartes was a time traveller,
having travelled backwards* to 1601 when Hamlet was written, forwards to
2025 to read the above explanation of everything and back to 1637 so
that he could write " je pense, donc je suis".
Aha! Can it be (or not be)? Is the rnsr in the missing * footlingnote?
I think, therefore, we should be told. Yes, indeed.
I read somewhere that at least one variety (Edison?) of 80rpm disk
used vertical modulation in the groove rather than lateral as 78s use.
On 2025-08-06, Graham. wrote:
I have two one-sided 80RPM records, both by a certain Sr E Caruso.So if you don't have an 80rpm player is 78 good enough?
One is a a 10 inch in which the Miestro sings the famous aria
from Viedi's Rigoletto "My Wife Rides a Motorbike".
The other is a 12 inch has him singing that song from
Leoncavallo's opera-aPagliacci
"Nobody wants to look at a naked clown".
On 2025-08-07, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
In article <mfjh30Fdpo4U1@mid.individual.net>, John Williamson
<johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> on Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 12:30:39 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
On 07/08/2025 12:23, Simon wrote:If you are Micr$oft you can write a more convenient standard every
That's getting very complicated, nothing like a good standard record.That ls the beauty of standards, There are so many to choose from.
couple of years.
It seems windows 11 and it's fake requirements may be a step too far. Although
we all said this when online activation came out and look how that turned out :-(
Peter wrote:
John Williamson wrote:
Like the Universal (so-called)Standard Bus. I have a drawer full of adapters >> to connect various different USB doodahs.
They are universally different. It seems the adaptors are more prevalent than the cables these days.
On 06/08/2025 9:43 pm, Simon wrote:
On 2025-08-06, Graham. wrote:It's near enough for ...
I have two one-sided 80RPM records, both by a certain Sr E Caruso.So if you don't have an 80rpm player is 78 good enough?
One is a a 10 inch in which the Miestro sings the famous aria
from Viedi's Rigoletto "My Wife Rides a Motorbike".
The other is a 12 inch has him singing that song from
Leoncavallo's opera-aPagliacci
"Nobody wants to look at a naked clown".
Mine dew, I guvax all the clockwork ones had adjustable speed, it's only those electric motors that stick to one speed.
On 07/08/2025 15:17, Simon wrote:
On 2025-08-07, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:<Looks innocent> It is said that it is even possible to install 'Doze
In article <mfjh30Fdpo4U1@mid.individual.net>, John Williamson
<johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> on Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 12:30:39 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
On 07/08/2025 12:23, Simon wrote:If you are Micr$oft you can write a more convenient standard every
That's getting very complicated, nothing like a good standard record. >>>>>That ls the beauty of standards, There are so many to choose from.
couple of years.
It seems windows 11 and it's fake requirements may be a step too far. Although
we all said this when online activation came out and look how that turned out
:-(
elf on a USB stick. You need a text editor and to know which file to
alter. There are also ways to con such an installation into thinking
that it has been activated.
Simon wrote:
Peter wrote:
John Williamson wrote:
Like the Universal (so-called)Standard Bus. I have a drawer full of adapters
to connect various different USB doodahs.
They are universally different. It seems the adaptors are more prevalent than
the cables these days.
IBM's got you covered ...
<https://youtu.be/AIOqOxI0K_I>
... nearly
On 2025-08-07, John Williamson wrote:
<Looks innocent> It is said that it is even possible to install 'Doze
elf on a USB stick. You need a text editor and to know which file to
alter. There are also ways to con such an installation into thinking
that it has been activated.
RUFUS also help remove the barriers to installation, it is however beyond the scope of most peoples installation ability.
I do like Ian Hislop though, but thinking about it I have never bought or read
Private Eye :-(
On 06/08/2025 9:43 pm, Simon wrote:
On 2025-08-06, Graham. wrote:It's near enough for ...
I have two one-sided 80RPM records, both by a certain Sr E Caruso.So if you don't have an 80rpm player is 78 good enough?
-a One is a a 10 inch in which the Miestro sings the famous aria
-a from Viedi's Rigoletto "My Wife Rides a Motorbike".
The other is a 12 inch has him singing that song from
-a Leoncavallo's opera-aPagliacci
"Nobody wants to look at a naked clown".
Mine dew, I guvax all the clockwork ones had adjustable speed, it's only those electric motors that stick to one speed.
Simon said:
On 2025-08-07, John Williamson wrote:
<Looks innocent> It is said that it is even possible to install 'Doze
elf on a USB stick. You need a text editor and to know which file to
alter. There are also ways to con such an installation into thinking
that it has been activated.
RUFUS also help remove the barriers to installation, it is however beyond the
scope of most peoples installation ability.
Linux is easy to install and doesn't hassle you.
On 07/08/2025 12:26, Simon wrote:
I do like Ian Hislop though, but thinking about it I have never bought or read
Private Eye :-(
I think it should be compulsory reading for everyone in the UK. I've
been a subscriber since the early 80s, maybe earlier.
On 07/08/2025 15:58, Naqerj wrote:
On 06/08/2025 9:43 pm, Simon wrote:
On 2025-08-06, Graham. wrote:It's near enough for ...
I have two one-sided 80RPM records, both by a certain Sr E Caruso.So if you don't have an 80rpm player is 78 good enough?
-a One is a a 10 inch in which the Miestro sings the famous aria
-a from Viedi's Rigoletto "My Wife Rides a Motorbike".
The other is a 12 inch has him singing that song from
-a Leoncavallo's opera-aPagliacci
"Nobody wants to look at a naked clown".
Mine dew, I guvax all the clockwork ones had adjustable speed, it's only
those electric motors that stick to one speed.
I have a couple of turntables that will do variable speed with strobe indicators to show if they're going fast or slow. One day I'll connect
them back up to the mains and an amp.
On 2025-08-07, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
In article <mfjch4FcvkeU3@mid.individual.net>, chrisnd@privacy.net
<chrisnd@privacy.net> on Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 11:12:52 awoke Nicholas
from his slumbers and wrote
On 06/08/2025 22:35, Sn!pe wrote:Or you will have to lie down to hear it?
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:That's alright. It just means the sound will come out of the other
On 2025-08-06, Graham. wrote:
I have two one-sided 80RPM records, both by a certain Sr E Caruso. >>>>>> One is a a 10 inch in which the Miestro sings the famous aria
from Viedi's Rigoletto "My Wife Rides a Motorbike".
The other is a 12 inch has him singing that song from
Leoncavallo's opera Pagliacci
"Nobody wants to look at a naked clown".
So if you don't have an 80rpm player is 78 good enough?
I read somewhere that at least one variety (Edison?) of 80rpm disk
used vertical modulation in the groove rather than lateral as 78s use. >>>>
speaker....
:-)
Chris
I will confess to telling a young lady the sound was better if she laid on the
bed. We were young and she was quite gullible. :-)
On 2025-08-07, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
In article <mfjh30Fdpo4U1@mid.individual.net>, John Williamson
<johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> on Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 12:30:39 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
On 07/08/2025 12:23, Simon wrote:If you are Micr$oft you can write a more convenient standard every
That's getting very complicated, nothing like a good standard record.That ls the beauty of standards, There are so many to choose from.
couple of years.
It seems windows 11 and it's fake requirements may be a step too far. Although
we all said this when online activation came out and look how that turned out :-(
On 07/08/2025 15:23, Simon wrote:You mean it add bounce to the rhythm? :-)
On 2025-08-07, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
In article <mfjch4FcvkeU3@mid.individual.net>, chrisnd@privacy.net
<chrisnd@privacy.net> on Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 11:12:52 awoke Nicholas
from his slumbers and wrote
On 06/08/2025 22:35, Sn!pe wrote:Or you will have to lie down to hear it?
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:That's alright. It just means the sound will come out of the other
On 2025-08-06, Graham. wrote:
I have two one-sided 80RPM records, both by a certain Sr E Caruso. >>>>>>> One is a a 10 inch in which the Miestro sings the famous aria >>>>>>> from Viedi's Rigoletto "My Wife Rides a Motorbike".
The other is a 12 inch has him singing that song from
Leoncavallo's opera Pagliacci
"Nobody wants to look at a naked clown".
So if you don't have an 80rpm player is 78 good enough?
I read somewhere that at least one variety (Edison?) of 80rpm disk
used vertical modulation in the groove rather than lateral as 78s use. >>>>>
speaker....
:-)
Chris
I will confess to telling a young lady the sound was better if she laid on the
bed. We were young and she was quite gullible. :-)
Yes, the springs add extra resonance - honest!
Chris
On 07/08/2025 15:17, Simon wrote:I don't know how people can justify the invasion of privacy, Linux may be different but in a good way now.
On 2025-08-07, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
In article <mfjh30Fdpo4U1@mid.individual.net>, John Williamson
<johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> on Thu, 7 Aug 2025 at 12:30:39 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
On 07/08/2025 12:23, Simon wrote:If you are Micr$oft you can write a more convenient standard every
That's getting very complicated, nothing like a good standard record. >>>>>That ls the beauty of standards, There are so many to choose from.
couple of years.
It seems windows 11 and it's fake requirements may be a step too far. Although
we all said this when online activation came out and look how that turned out
:-(
Yes, I moved to Ubuntu :-)
Chris
In article <slrn10944tl.1p57m.SimonJ@silex.localdomain>, Simon
<SimonJ@eu.invalid> on Tue, 5 Aug 2025 at 14:22:45 awoke Nicholas from
his slumbers and wrote
On 2025-08-05, Sn!pe wrote:
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:
Well I have been living under a rock, I didn't know this at all. Thank you.
Well I think you can be excused. Private Eye in those days was seen by
The Establishment of the time as a scurrilous scandal sheet with British Public School boy humour.
Much of the Eye's material came from disgruntled mainstream
reporters whose hot stories had been spiked by their editors for
being too scurrilous -- "all the news that isn't fit to print".
Apart from the notorious "Goldenballs" suit, not many libel actions
against Lord Gnome's organ actually succeeded.
On 2025-08-07, Mike Fleming wrote:
On 07/08/2025 12:26, Simon wrote:
I do like Ian Hislop though, but thinking about it I have
never bought or read Private Eye :-(
I think it should be compulsory reading for everyone in the
UK. I've been a subscriber since the early 80s, maybe earlier.
If I ever visit again I will be sure to get a copy.
On 2025-08-07, Naqerj wrote:
On 06/08/2025 9:43 pm, Simon wrote:
On 2025-08-06, Graham. wrote:It's near enough for ...
I have two one-sided 80RPM records, both by a certain Sr ESo if you don't have an 80rpm player is 78 good enough?
Caruso. One is a a 10 inch in which the Miestro sings the
famous aria from Viedi's Rigoletto "My Wife Rides a
Motorbike". The other is a 12 inch has him singing that
song from Leoncavallo's opera-aPagliacci "Nobody wants to
look at a naked clown".
Mine dew, I guvax all the clockwork ones had adjustable speed,
it's only those electric motors that stick to one speed.
Do I have to leave if I admit I have never seen a clockwork
record player :-(
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 09:55:49 +0100, Nicholas D. Richards ><nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
In article <slrn10944tl.1p57m.SimonJ@silex.localdomain>, Simon >><SimonJ@eu.invalid> on Tue, 5 Aug 2025 at 14:22:45 awoke Nicholas from
his slumbers and wrote
On 2025-08-05, Sn!pe wrote:Well I think you can be excused. Private Eye in those days was seen by
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:
Well I have been living under a rock, I didn't know this at all. Thank you. >>
The Establishment of the time as a scurrilous scandal sheet with British
Public School boy humour.
Private Eye is still consdered a scurrilous scandal sheet
by the Establishment, they break stories that the Establishment
at both sides of the aisle wish would just go away. See the Post
Offive Horizon scandal.
Recently a visitor to parliament had their copy
confiscated. A protest marcher carrying a copy of a Private Eye
joke was detained by the Filth.
Been reading the Eye since the sixties when it was
created with an IBM Exectutive typewriter and a pair of scissors,
I read it for the scandal, cartoons, jokes and Public
School humour.
They have also influenced culture.
Ironically they hammer away at the Grauniad in Pseuds
Corner etc, yet awward the Grauniad every year for fearless
journalim.
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 04:47:56 -0000 (UTC), Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-08-07, Mike Fleming wrote:
On 07/08/2025 12:26, Simon wrote:
I do like Ian Hislop though, but thinking about it I have
never bought or read Private Eye :-(
I think it should be compulsory reading for everyone in the
UK. I've been a subscriber since the early 80s, maybe earlier.
If I ever visit again I will be sure to get a copy.
Wherever you are hiding out, the EYE will allow you to
subscribe.
Once when living deep in Ameristan my EYE sub just
stopped. I contacted the subscription dept. They told me that the
Post Office (Rockaway Beach, Oregon) had told them I had moved -
Not true.
I believe they had a cover that concerned the Mango Moron
and this offended the post Mistress.
The Eye re-subbed me.
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 20:18:45 -0000 (UTC), SimonHaha, I thought this was a wind-up, turns out they are. Amazing. :-)
<SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-08-07, Naqerj wrote:
On 06/08/2025 9:43 pm, Simon wrote:
On 2025-08-06, Graham. wrote:It's near enough for ...
I have two one-sided 80RPM records, both by a certain Sr ESo if you don't have an 80rpm player is 78 good enough?
Caruso. One is a a 10 inch in which the Miestro sings the
famous aria from Viedi's Rigoletto "My Wife Rides a
Motorbike". The other is a 12 inch has him singing that
song from Leoncavallo's opera-aPagliacci "Nobody wants to
look at a naked clown".
Mine dew, I guvax all the clockwork ones had adjustable speed,
it's only those electric motors that stick to one speed.
Do I have to leave if I admit I have never seen a clockwork
record player :-(
They even used to have clockwork tape recorders.
Nagra put one out in the early 1950s. David Attenborough
used them for his "Zoo Quest" Series.
These were the days of valves abd elecronics was still
part of "radio". The Swiss have always excelled in making
clockwork motors.
https://museumofmagneticsoundrecording.org/ManufacturersNagra.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagra
I have always loved Nagra machines.
In article <slrn109e2af.12386.julian@n6are.com>, Julian Macassey
<julian@n6are.com> on Sat, 9 Aug 2025 at 08:39:43 awoke Nicholas from
his slumbers and wrote
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 09:55:49 +0100, Nicholas D. Richards >><nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:I have been reading the Eye (1/14) and the Grauniad (6/7) for 60+ years.
In article <slrn10944tl.1p57m.SimonJ@silex.localdomain>, Simon >>><SimonJ@eu.invalid> on Tue, 5 Aug 2025 at 14:22:45 awoke Nicholas from
his slumbers and wrote
On 2025-08-05, Sn!pe wrote:
Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> wrote:
Well I have been living under a rock, I didn't know this at all. Thank you.
Well I think you can be excused. Private Eye in those days was seen by
The Establishment of the time as a scurrilous scandal sheet with British >>> Public School boy humour.
Private Eye is still consdered a scurrilous scandal sheet
by the Establishment, they break stories that the Establishment
at both sides of the aisle wish would just go away. See the Post
Offive Horizon scandal.
Recently a visitor to parliament had their copy
confiscated. A protest marcher carrying a copy of a Private Eye
joke was detained by the Filth.
Been reading the Eye since the sixties when it was
created with an IBM Exectutive typewriter and a pair of scissors,
I read it for the scandal, cartoons, jokes and Public
School humour.
They have also influenced culture.
Ironically they hammer away at the Grauniad in Pseuds
Corner etc, yet awward the Grauniad every year for fearless
journalim.
I would no longer apply the aphorism 'fearless journalism' to the
Grauniad. I just do not know of a better daily newspaper than the
Gruaniad :-(
Thank -uDiety for the Eye, although there are times when I feel that I
need a script from the doctor for Prozac.
Ironically they hammer away at the Grauniad in Pseuds
Corner etc, yet awward the Grauniad every year for fearless
journalim.
https://museumofmagneticsoundrecording.org/ManufacturersNagra.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagra
I have always loved Nagra machines.
I would no longer apply the aphorism 'fearless journalism' to
the Grauniad. I just do not know of a better daily newspaper than the Gruaniad :-(
On 2025-08-07, Mike Fleming wrote:
On 07/08/2025 12:26, Simon wrote:
I do like Ian Hislop though, but thinking about it I have never bought or read
Private Eye :-(
I think it should be compulsory reading for everyone in the UK. I've
been a subscriber since the early 80s, maybe earlier.
If I ever visit again I will be sure to get a copy.
Ironically they hammer away at the Grauniad in Pseuds
Corner etc, yet awward the Grauniad every year for fearless
journalim.
Do I have to leave if I admit I have never seen a clockwork record player :-(
On 09/08/2025 09:39, Julian Macassey wrote:
Ironically they hammer away at the Grauniad in Pseuds
Corner etc, yet awward the Grauniad every year for fearless
journalim.
They are very fair with the Paul Foot award. The Daily Mail has been >shortlisted for it in the past - of course, it's for a single story or >campaign, not the entirety. And the Grauniad avoided name-checking the
Eye when reporting on the man being arrested for holding a blown up
image of an Eye cartoon
- the BBC did name the Eye, which seems fair as--
the editor has been featured on their regular news quiz for 30 years.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz9kdq84j3lo ICYMI
On 08/08/2025 05:47, Simon wrote:
On 2025-08-07, Mike Fleming wrote:
On 07/08/2025 12:26, Simon wrote:
I do like Ian Hislop though, but thinking about it I have never bought or >read
Private Eye :-(
I think it should be compulsory reading for everyone in the UK. I've
been a subscriber since the early 80s, maybe earlier.
If I ever visit again I will be sure to get a copy.
You can subscribe from forn parts. My B-i-L lives in NY and is a
subscriber (that's his Christmas present). He lives on Staten Island so
he may not be subject to martial law yet.
On 07/08/2025 21:18, Simon wrote:
Do I have to leave if I admit I have never seen a clockwork record
player :-(
I'm not sure how my dad came to have it (inherited or a gift I think)
but we had one, along with numerous 78s. It wasn't one of the classic
ones with a mahoosive horn on top, the horn was built into the cabinet
and the volume control was the two doors on the front which could be
opened or closed as required.
It was similar to https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256542802937
In article <mg5sdiFfgeaU2@mid.individual.net>, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> on Thu, 14 Aug 2025 at 11:34:26 awoke Nicholas
from his slumbers and wrote
On 09/08/2025 09:39, Julian Macassey wrote:
Ironically they hammer away at the Grauniad in Pseuds
Corner etc, yet awward the Grauniad every year for fearless
journalim.
They are very fair with the Paul Foot award. The Daily Mail has been
shortlisted for it in the past - of course, it's for a single story or
campaign, not the entirety. And the Grauniad avoided name-checking the
Eye when reporting on the man being arrested for holding a blown up
image of an Eye cartoon
As I said earlier: "I would no longer apply the aphorism 'fearless journalism' to the Grauniad"
On 14/08/2025 11:42, Mike Fleming wrote:
On 07/08/2025 21:18, Simon wrote:
Do I have to leave if I admit I have never seen a clockwork record
player :-(
I'm not sure how my dad came to have it (inherited or a gift I think)
but we had one, along with numerous 78s. It wasn't one of the classic
ones with a mahoosive horn on top, the horn was built into the cabinet
and the volume control was the two doors on the front which could be
opened or closed as required.
It was similar to https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256542802937
Tracking force:-a 12 lb.
On 14/08/2025 19:28, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 14/08/2025 11:42, Mike Fleming wrote:Wow!
On 07/08/2025 21:18, Simon wrote:
Do I have to leave if I admit I have never seen a clockwork record
player :-(
I'm not sure how my dad came to have it (inherited or a gift I think)
but we had one, along with numerous 78s. It wasn't one of the classic
ones with a mahoosive horn on top, the horn was built into the cabinet
and the volume control was the two doors on the front which could be
opened or closed as required.
It was similar to https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256542802937
Tracking force:a 12 lb.
Unthinkable these days.
Even ounces would be bad enough?
Chris
On 07/08/2025 21:18, Simon wrote:
Do I have to leave if I admit I have never seen a clockwork record player :-(
I'm not sure how my dad came to have it (inherited or a gift I think)
but we had one, along with numerous 78s. It wasn't one of the classic
ones with a mahoosive horn on top, the horn was built into the cabinet
and the volume control was the two doors on the front which could be
opened or closed as required.
It was similar to https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256542802937
On 2025-08-14, Mike Fleming wrote:
On 07/08/2025 21:18, Simon wrote:
Do I have to leave if I admit I have never seen a clockwork record player :-(
I'm not sure how my dad came to have it (inherited or a gift I think)
but we had one, along with numerous 78s. It wasn't one of the classic
ones with a mahoosive horn on top, the horn was built into the cabinet
and the volume control was the two doors on the front which could be
opened or closed as required.
It was similar to https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256542802937
That's amazing, it's hard to grasp the speed that things have changed. You see >things like this and now we have bluetooth speakers playing across the room from
our phone.
In article <slrn109uun5.3b5m.SimonJ@silex.localdomain>, SimonIf they are good speakers the cones can be replaced, I used to work in an audio shop and we did this sort of thing. Even sourcing comparable components if the originals are no longer available. That was 20 years ago, not sure if it is possible today.
<SimonJ@eu.invalid> on Fri, 15 Aug 2025 at 18:22:29 awoke Nicholas from
his slumbers and wrote
On 2025-08-14, Mike Fleming wrote:
On 07/08/2025 21:18, Simon wrote:
Do I have to leave if I admit I have never seen a clockwork record player :-(
I'm not sure how my dad came to have it (inherited or a gift I think)
but we had one, along with numerous 78s. It wasn't one of the classic
ones with a mahoosive horn on top, the horn was built into the cabinet
and the volume control was the two doors on the front which could be
opened or closed as required.
It was similar to https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256542802937
That's amazing, it's hard to grasp the speed that things have changed. You see
things like this and now we have bluetooth speakers playing across the room from
our phone.
I am not sure that things have improved that much. Some of us, at
least, would spend hundreds of pounds on record decks, amplifiers and
quality speakers and for that we would be able to get amazing sound.
Now we spend hundreds of pounds on telephones that will be declared
obsolete after a year or so to play digital sound on blue tooth speakers
that is not a patch on that which I had before. The quality of digital recordings has probably been reduced due to what the manufacturers
expect it to be played on.
My speakers have after 40+ years become US because the cones have gone.
Mind yew my personal audio system, Mark 1 Ears, must be failing after
77+ years of neglect and abuse. I remember 50 years ago a family fiend
aged about 60 who would tip his head to one said and say could you
repeat that. He bemoaned the fact that he could now afford a decent Hi-
Fi setup and could not benefit from it. He had spent his youthful
holidays travelling Europe listening to the great opera singers of his
time.
Agreed, there must be some mistook. 12 grams perhaps? A family fiend
used to cut his own styli from wood (one play only as were many steel(?)
styli). The wooden styli would never have stood for a 12 1b tracking
force.
On 15/08/2025 11:25 am, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
Agreed, there must be some mistook.-a 12 grams perhaps?-a A family fiend
used to cut his own styli from wood (one play only as were many steel(?)
Yes, most steel needles were one play only and came in various widths
(thin ones were quieter, thick ones louder).-a You could get harder
needles that would do five plays - but you shouldn't take them out
between plays.-a The sound from a 78 that's been played many time with a steel needle gets worse towards the middle because the needle is worn by
the time it gets there and wears out the groove more.
styli).-a The wooden styli would never have stood for a 12 1b tracking
force.
Fibre needles could be re-sharpened.-a Blackthorns can be used too.
On 16/08/2025 09:13, Naqerj wrote:
On 15/08/2025 11:25 am, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
Fibre needles could be re-sharpened.-a Blackthorns can be used too.
Father had a jig for re-sharpening steel needles.
You put the needle into a chuck which slid up and down a track so that
the needle contra-rotated whilst pressed against a strip of emery paper.
On 16/08/2025 21:31, Sam Plusnet wrote:This sounds perfect, clothing that adapts as we change :-)
On 16/08/2025 09:13, Naqerj wrote:
On 15/08/2025 11:25 am, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
Fibre needles could be re-sharpened.-a Blackthorns can be used too.
Father had a jig for re-sharpening steel needles.
You put the needle into a chuck which slid up and down a track so that
the needle contra-rotated whilst pressed against a strip of emery paper.
In my nan's house were two boxes of needles. One was a small tin box of steel needles for the wind-up gramophone. T'other was a box of knitting
and stitching needles.
Nan was a great knitter. I still have a heavy roll-neck sweater that she knitted for me 65 years ago, and it still fits. Well, to be honest, it
has stretched a bit over the years, but so have I.
She taught me how to knit tubes with three needles. I was quite good at
it
but I never worked out what they were for.
On 16/08/2025 21:31, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 16/08/2025 09:13, Naqerj wrote:
On 15/08/2025 11:25 am, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
Fibre needles could be re-sharpened. Blackthorns can be used too.
Father had a jig for re-sharpening steel needles.
You put the needle into a chuck which slid up and down a track so that
the needle contra-rotated whilst pressed against a strip of emery paper.
In my nan's house were two boxes of needles. One was a small tin box of
steel needles for the wind-up gramophone. T'other was a box of knitting
and stitching needles.
Nan was a great knitter. I still have a heavy roll-neck sweater that she knitted for me 65 years ago, and it still fits. Well, to be honest, it
has stretched a bit over the years, but so have I.
She taught me how to knit tubes with three needles. I was quite good at
it, but I never worked out what they were for.
On 17/08/2025 02:10, Hymermut wrote:
On 16/08/2025 21:31, Sam Plusnet wrote:They were to prove that you could make a longer one than your mates.
On 16/08/2025 09:13, Naqerj wrote:
On 15/08/2025 11:25 am, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
Fibre needles could be re-sharpened. Blackthorns can be used too.
Father had a jig for re-sharpening steel needles.
You put the needle into a chuck which slid up and down a track so that
the needle contra-rotated whilst pressed against a strip of emery paper. >>>
In my nan's house were two boxes of needles. One was a small tin box of
steel needles for the wind-up gramophone. T'other was a box of knitting
and stitching needles.
Nan was a great knitter. I still have a heavy roll-neck sweater that she
knitted for me 65 years ago, and it still fits. Well, to be honest, it
has stretched a bit over the years, but so have I.
She taught me how to knit tubes with three needles. I was quite good at
it, but I never worked out what they were for.
On 16/08/2025 21:31, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 16/08/2025 09:13, Naqerj wrote:
On 15/08/2025 11:25 am, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
Fibre needles could be re-sharpened.-a Blackthorns can be used too.
Father had a jig for re-sharpening steel needles.
You put the needle into a chuck which slid up and down a track so that
the needle contra-rotated whilst pressed against a strip of emery paper.
In my nan's house were two boxes of needles. One was a small tin box of steel needles for the wind-up gramophone. T'other was a box of knitting
and stitching needles.
Nan was a great knitter. I still have a heavy roll-neck sweater that she knitted for me 65 years ago, and it still fits. Well, to be honest, it
has stretched a bit over the years, but so have I.
She taught me how to knit tubes with three needles. I was quite good at
it, but I never worked out what they were for.
Hymermut wrote:
She taught me how to knit tubes with three needles. I was quite good at
it
We molished a "knitting machine" for that from an old wooden cotton
reel, plus four(?) panel pins
but I never worked out what they were for.
Likewise
Hymermut <tone@email.com> wrote in news:107ra6g$215nr$1@dont-email.me:
On 16/08/2025 21:31, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 16/08/2025 09:13, Naqerj wrote:
On 15/08/2025 11:25 am, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
Fibre needles could be re-sharpened.-a Blackthorns can be used too.
Father had a jig for re-sharpening steel needles.
You put the needle into a chuck which slid up and down a track so that
the needle contra-rotated whilst pressed against a strip of emery paper. >>>
In my nan's house were two boxes of needles. One was a small tin box of
steel needles for the wind-up gramophone. T'other was a box of knitting
and stitching needles.
Nan was a great knitter. I still have a heavy roll-neck sweater that she
knitted for me 65 years ago, and it still fits. Well, to be honest, it
has stretched a bit over the years, but so have I.
She taught me how to knit tubes with three needles. I was quite good at
it, but I never worked out what they were for.
SWMBO knits sockses like that: she knits a tube, turns a corner for the
heel and then continues the tube.
On 2025-08-17, Peter wrote:
Hymermut <tone@email.com> wrote in news:107ra6g$215nr$1@dont-email.me:I think the clever bit would be the corner, I never saw such a thing from anyone
On 16/08/2025 21:31, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 16/08/2025 09:13, Naqerj wrote:
On 15/08/2025 11:25 am, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
Fibre needles could be re-sharpened.a Blackthorns can be used too.
Father had a jig for re-sharpening steel needles.
You put the needle into a chuck which slid up and down a track so that >>>> the needle contra-rotated whilst pressed against a strip of emery paper. >>>>
In my nan's house were two boxes of needles. One was a small tin box of >>> steel needles for the wind-up gramophone. T'other was a box of knitting >>> and stitching needles.
Nan was a great knitter. I still have a heavy roll-neck sweater that she >>> knitted for me 65 years ago, and it still fits. Well, to be honest, it
has stretched a bit over the years, but so have I.
She taught me how to knit tubes with three needles. I was quite good at >>> it, but I never worked out what they were for.
SWMBO knits sockses like that: she knits a tube, turns a corner for the
heel and then continues the tube.
who was not a knitter.
More recently, my mum uster use the three needles
to make little soxies for pre-term babies.
Nicholas D. Richards <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
More recently, my mum uster use the three needles
to make little soxies for pre-term babies.
Sock it to me, Baby!
On 17/08/2025 02:10, Hymermut wrote:
On 16/08/2025 21:31, Sam Plusnet wrote:They were to prove that you could-a make a longer one than your mates.
On 16/08/2025 09:13, Naqerj wrote:
On 15/08/2025 11:25 am, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
Fibre needles could be re-sharpened.-a Blackthorns can be used too.
Father had a jig for re-sharpening steel needles.
You put the needle into a chuck which slid up and down a track so that
the needle contra-rotated whilst pressed against a strip of emery paper. >>>
In my nan's house were two boxes of needles. One was a small tin box of
steel needles for the wind-up gramophone. T'other was a box of knitting
and stitching needles.
Nan was a great knitter. I still have a heavy roll-neck sweater that she
knitted for me 65 years ago, and it still fits. Well, to be honest, it
has stretched a bit over the years, but so have I.
She taught me how to knit tubes with three needles. I was quite good at
it, but I never worked out what they were for.
On 16/08/2025 09:13, Naqerj wrote:
Fibre needles could be re-sharpened.-a Blackthorns can be used too.
Father had a jig for re-sharpening steel needles.
You put the needle into a chuck which slid up and down a track so that
the needle contra-rotated whilst pressed against a strip of emery paper.
On 16/08/2025 9:31 pm, Sam Plusnet wrote:The mention of blackthorn has set me wondering. I have a particularly
On 16/08/2025 09:13, Naqerj wrote:
Fibre needles could be re-sharpened.a Blackthorns can be used too.
Father had a jig for re-sharpening steel needles.
You put the needle into a chuck which slid up and down a track so that
the needle contra-rotated whilst pressed against a strip of emery paper.
That sounds exactly like the thingy I have - I have always believed it
was for sharpening fibre needles rather than steel. I don't think I'd
trust a re-sharpened steel needle not to ruin the record.
On 17/08/2025 17:35, Sn!pe wrote:
Nicholas D. Richards <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:Only some babies have sockets. The other half have plugs.
More recently, my mum uster use the three needles
to make little soxies for pre-term babies.
Sock it to me, Baby!
Hymermut wrote:
She taught me how to knit tubes with three needles. I was quite good at
it
We molished a "knitting machine" for that from an old wooden cotton
reel, plus four(?) panel pins
but I never worked out what they were for.
Likewise
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 12:46:18 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
Hymermut wrote:
She taught me how to knit tubes with three needles. I was quite good at >>> it
We molished a "knitting machine" for that from an old wooden cotton
reel, plus four(?) panel pins
but I never worked out what they were for.
Likewise
French knitting:
https://www.ravelutionyarn.ca/post/what-is-french-knitting-and-what-can-you-make-with-it
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 12:46:18 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
Hymermut wrote:
She taught me how to knit tubes with three needles. I was quite good at
it
We molished a "knitting machine" for that from an old wooden cotton
reel, plus four(?) panel pins
but I never worked out what they were for.
Likewise
French knitting:
https://www.ravelutionyarn.ca/post/what-is-french-knitting-and-what-can-you-make-with-it
Fibre needles could be re-sharpened.-a Blackthorns can be used too.
She taught me how to knit tubes with three needles. I was quite good at
it, but I never worked out what they were for.
On 17/08/2025 02:10, Hymermut wrote:
She taught me how to knit tubes with three needles. I was quite good
at it, but I never worked out what they were for.
Socks? Or, if you never learnt to do the toes, compression stockings.
"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in news:$JAQKMAz5xloFA1F@salmiron.com:
I would no longer apply the aphorism 'fearless journalism' to
the Grauniad. I just do not know of a better daily newspaper than the
Gruaniad :-(
That sums up my attitude to the paper.
On 2025-08-15, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
In article <slrn109uun5.3b5m.SimonJ@silex.localdomain>, Simon >><SimonJ@eu.invalid> on Fri, 15 Aug 2025 at 18:22:29 awoke Nicholas fromIf they are good speakers the cones can be replaced, I used to work in an audio
his slumbers and wrote
On 2025-08-14, Mike Fleming wrote:
On 07/08/2025 21:18, Simon wrote:
Do I have to leave if I admit I have never seen a clockwork record player :-(
I'm not sure how my dad came to have it (inherited or a gift I think) >>>> but we had one, along with numerous 78s. It wasn't one of the classic >>>> ones with a mahoosive horn on top, the horn was built into the cabinet >>>> and the volume control was the two doors on the front which could be
opened or closed as required.
It was similar to https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256542802937
That's amazing, it's hard to grasp the speed that things have changed. You see
things like this and now we have bluetooth speakers playing across the room from
our phone.
I am not sure that things have improved that much. Some of us, at
least, would spend hundreds of pounds on record decks, amplifiers and
quality speakers and for that we would be able to get amazing sound.
Now we spend hundreds of pounds on telephones that will be declared
obsolete after a year or so to play digital sound on blue tooth speakers
that is not a patch on that which I had before. The quality of digital
recordings has probably been reduced due to what the manufacturers
expect it to be played on.
My speakers have after 40+ years become US because the cones have gone.
shop and we did this sort of thing. Even sourcing comparable components if the
originals are no longer available. That was 20 years ago, not sure if it is possible today.
Mind yew my personal audio system, Mark 1 Ears, must be failing after
77+ years of neglect and abuse. I remember 50 years ago a family fiend
aged about 60 who would tip his head to one said and say could you
repeat that. He bemoaned the fact that he could now afford a decent Hi-
Fi setup and could not benefit from it. He had spent his youthful
holidays travelling Europe listening to the great opera singers of his
time.
I fully agree with the sound quality loss. I did spend a lot of money on "Hi-Fi", and I too have sufficient hearing loss that if I want to listen to music I do so with headphones so I don't annoy the neighbours. As such I just have some good(ish) headphones and small Denon system which is enough for me now.
Friends and neighbours all have a single bluetooth speaker or worse, a sound bar, which both produce mono sound, or a mix of channels coming from a single speaker. I don't see how this is acceptable for anything other than basic TV.