• oh no

    From Eddie@eddie@deguello.org to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Sep 30 09:14:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    From an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET,

    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30 September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...
    --
    Eddie eddie@deguello.org

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Eddie@eddie@deguello.org to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Sep 30 09:39:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 30/09/2025 09:14, Eddie wrote:
    From an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET,

    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...

    ... which seems ridiculous, as I'm already paying for another server,
    for "reasons", but I've never thought about using it for posting.

    Looks like it's my round. What's everybody having?
    --
    Eddie eddie@deguello.org
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From wessie@willnotwork@tesco.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Sep 30 08:44:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote in
    news:mk1hqaFa91bU1@mid.individual.net:

    From an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE /
    News.Individual.NET,

    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...


    eternal september (was the cheesey server)

    neodome for when ES has a bad day

    both free
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From wessie@willnotwork@tesco.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Sep 30 10:53:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote in news:mHMCQ.18336$Edb8.7988@fx11.ams4:

    On 30/09/2025 09:14, Eddie wrote:
    From an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET,

    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...

    ... which seems ridiculous, as I'm already paying for another server,
    for "reasons", but I've never thought about using it for posting.

    Looks like it's my round. What's everybody having?


    it's before noon, pint of white Burgundy
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Paul Carmichael@wibbleypants@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Sep 30 11:12:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    El Tue, 30 Sep 2025 09:14:02 +0100, Eddie escribi||:

    From an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET,

    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...


    I'll cross that bridge in 2 years. If I'm still breathing.
    --
    Paul.

    https://paulc.es

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From donotremovespam@donotremovespam@outlook.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Sep 30 13:43:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    both free
    Another one for the list:
    http://news.sunsite.dk/
    (No httpEYEA.)
    Text only. Have used it since my then ISP dropped usenet.
    --
    =o&o
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Champ@neal@champ.org.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Sep 30 13:01:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Tue, 30 Sep 2025 09:39:46 +0100, Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:

    On 30/09/2025 09:14, Eddie wrote:
    From an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET,

    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    Bugger. I have the same email [1]
    I'm going to have to find a new server...

    As will I

    ... which seems ridiculous, as I'm already paying for another server,
    for "reasons", but I've never thought about using it for posting.

    Looks like it's my round. What's everybody having?

    <checks headers>

    Visiting https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com/ it says:

    "Offering Free Access to over 20 Years of Usenet Text Retention and
    Historical Content"

    So, I assume you're paying for some other service with them, and
    realised they offer usenet too?

    [1] so you'll be relieved to hear they're not just discontinuing the
    service for you personally :-)
    --
    Champ
    neal at champ dot org dot uk

    I don't know, but I been told
    You never slow down, you never grow old
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mark Olson@olsonm@tiny.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Sep 30 13:54:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:
    From an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET,

    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30 September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...

    I find Eternal September to be reliable enough for my needs.

    https://www.eternal-september.org/

    Maybe I should tap their 'donate' button.


    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Eddie@eddie@deguello.org to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Sep 30 16:37:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 30/09/2025 13:01, Champ wrote:
    On Tue, 30 Sep 2025 09:39:46 +0100, Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:

    Looks like it's my round. What's everybody having?

    <checks headers>

    Visiting https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com/ it says:

    "Offering Free Access to over 20 Years of Usenet Text Retention and Historical Content"

    "Your powers are weak, old man."

    You probably need to look further across the path, to where it says news.highwinds-media.com... which doesn't really mean much to me, as
    they're a reseller that I don't knowingly interact with directly.

    The X-Complaints-To header is the giveaway.
    So, I assume you're paying for some other service with them, and
    realised they offer usenet too?

    I'm already paying for Usenet from them, but normally access it via an automated downloader.

    [1] so you'll be relieved to hear they're not just discontinuing the
    service for you personally :-)

    It did seem unlikely that I'd have been targetted personally, but one
    never knows who one might have upset.
    --
    Eddie eddie@deguello.org
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Ace@Ace@ch.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Tue Sep 30 18:46:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Tue, 30 Sep 2025 13:54:14 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
    <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:

    Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:
    From an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET,

    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30 September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...

    I find Eternal September to be reliable enough for my needs.

    https://www.eternal-september.org/

    Yes, I've been using that for years, decades even. Always been free,
    only very rarely, and very briefly, had any ossues with it.

    Maybe I should tap their 'donate' button.

    --
    Ace
    http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From boots@news@millhouse-communications.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Oct 1 08:00:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 30/09/2025 14:54 Mark Olson penned these words:
    https://www.eternal-september.org/

    Maybe I should tap their 'donate' button.

    Prompted me to do so having been using them for yonks.
    --
    Ian

    "Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From YTC1@ytc1@ytc1.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Oct 1 08:56:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 30/09/2025 12:43, H wrote:
    both free
    Another one for the list:
    http://news.sunsite.dk/
    (No httpEYEA.)
    Text only. Have used it since my then ISP dropped usenet.


    That Is a blast from the past, https://www.ibiblio.org/maggot/history/ ,
    I'd forgotten about that one
    --
    Bruce Porter
    "The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly" http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
    There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From chrisnd @ukrm@chrisnd@privacy.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Oct 1 09:58:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 30/09/2025 12:12, Paul Carmichael wrote:
    El Tue, 30 Sep 2025 09:14:02 +0100, Eddie escribi||:

    From an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET,

    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...


    I'll cross that bridge in 2 years. If I'm still breathing.


    +1

    Chris
    --
    The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
    Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550T
    https://www.Deuchars.org.uk
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mark Olson@olsonm@tiny.invalid to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Oct 1 13:20:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    boots <news@millhouse-communications.co.uk> wrote:
    On 30/09/2025 14:54 Mark Olson penned these words:
    https://www.eternal-september.org/

    Maybe I should tap their 'donate' button.

    Prompted me to do so having been using them for yonks.

    Wolfgang can now enjoy a couple of liters of Kolsch on me.

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Simon Wilson@siwilson@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Oct 1 15:29:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 30/09/2025 09:14, Eddie wrote:
    From an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET,

    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...


    <checks junk e-mail>

    Oh...

    Coincidentally I've just been trying some binary servers, I dunno if
    they include text groups as well, I had better take a look.
    --
    /Simon
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Paul Carmichael@wibbleypants@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Oct 1 14:49:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    El Wed, 01 Oct 2025 15:29:16 +0100, Simon Wilson escribi||:

    On 30/09/2025 09:14, Eddie wrote:
    From an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE /
    News.Individual.NET,

    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...


    <checks junk e-mail>

    Oh...

    Mine was also in the spam bucket.
    --
    Paul.

    https://paulc.es

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Simon Wilson@simowilso+newsdemon@nodamnspamn.gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Wed Oct 1 19:32:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 30/09/2025 09:39, Eddie wrote:
    On 30/09/2025 09:14, Eddie wrote:
    -aFrom an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET,

    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...

    ... which seems ridiculous, as I'm already paying for another server,
    for "reasons", but I've never thought about using it for posting.

    Looks like it's my round. What's everybody having?


    Also a round on me
    --
    /Simon
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Champ@neal@champ.org.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Oct 2 13:22:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 19:32:26 +0100, Simon Wilson <simowilso+newsdemon@nodamnspamn.gmail.com> wrote:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET, >>>>
    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...

    Looks like it's my round. What's everybody having?

    Also a round on me

    <checks headers, properly this time>

    <visits https://www.newsdemon.com/usenet-access >

    $6 a month! That's, like, real money! Fuxsite more than C10pa
    --
    Champ
    neal at champ dot org dot uk

    I don't know, but I been told
    You never slow down, you never grow old
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Ace@Ace@ch.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Oct 2 15:08:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 13:22:19 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

    On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 19:32:26 +0100, Simon Wilson ><simowilso+newsdemon@nodamnspamn.gmail.com> wrote:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET, >>>>>
    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...

    Looks like it's my round. What's everybody having?

    Also a round on me

    <checks headers, properly this time>

    <visits https://www.newsdemon.com/usenet-access >

    $6 a month! That's, like, real money! Fuxsite more than C10pa

    I never understood why so many folks went for the C10 per year anyway,
    when Eternal September was free (and still is).
    --
    Ace
    http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Paul Carmichael@wibbleypants@gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Oct 2 13:14:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    El Thu, 02 Oct 2025 15:08:32 +0200, Ace escribi||:

    I never understood why so many folks went for the -C10 per year anyway,
    when Eternal September was free (and still is).

    Back in the day, it was the bestest. Dead reliable etc. Never bothered changing because I'm so rich that 10re4 per annum is peanuts. Or something like that.
    --
    Paul.

    https://paulc.es

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Colin Irvine@look@colinandpat.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Oct 2 14:15:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 13:22:19 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

    On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 19:32:26 +0100, Simon Wilson ><simowilso+newsdemon@nodamnspamn.gmail.com> wrote:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET, >>>>>
    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...

    Looks like it's my round. What's everybody having?

    Also a round on me

    <checks headers, properly this time>

    <visits https://www.newsdemon.com/usenet-access >

    $6 a month! That's, like, real money! Fuxsite more than C10pa

    Well quite. I've been trying ES on Thunderbird, looks ok, guess I'll
    get Agent onto it.
    --
    Colin Irvine
    R1250RS
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mike Fleming@mike@tauzero.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Oct 2 17:15:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 02/10/2025 14:14, Paul Carmichael wrote:
    El Thu, 02 Oct 2025 15:08:32 +0200, Ace escribi||:

    I never understood why so many folks went for the -C10 per year anyway,
    when Eternal September was free (and still is).

    Back in the day, it was the bestest. Dead reliable etc. Never bothered changing because I'm so rich that 10re4 per annum is peanuts. Or something like that.

    Same here, although I also have ES on my newsserver list.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Simon Wilson@simowilso+newsdemon@nodamnspamn.gmail.com to uk.rec.motorcycles on Thu Oct 2 17:43:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 02/10/2025 13:22, Champ wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 19:32:26 +0100, Simon Wilson <simowilso+newsdemon@nodamnspamn.gmail.com> wrote:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET, >>>>>
    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...

    Looks like it's my round. What's everybody having?

    Also a round on me

    <checks headers, properly this time>

    <visits https://www.newsdemon.com/usenet-access >

    $6 a month! That's, like, real money! Fuxsite more than re410pa

    No, I'm currently on a fixed amount of data plan, just playing with some stuff.
    --
    /Simon
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From chrisnd @ukrm@chrisnd@privacy.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat Oct 4 15:33:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 30/09/2025 09:14, Eddie wrote:
    From an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET,

    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...

    As it happens my renewal is just due. I've tried to pay it today but the option to renew no longer seems to exist.
    They do say that they are not accepting new registrations but this is not... Maybe they are rushing through a closure sooner than advertised?
    Or I've missed something!
    I've emailed and see what response I get :-/

    Chris
    --
    The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
    Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550T
    https://www.Deuchars.org.uk
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mike Fleming@mike@tauzero.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat Oct 4 18:41:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 04/10/2025 15:33, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
    On 30/09/2025 09:14, Eddie wrote:
    -aFrom an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET,

    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...

    As it happens my renewal is just due. I've tried to pay it today but the option to renew no longer seems to exist.
    They do say that they are not accepting new registrations but this is
    not...
    Maybe they are rushing through a closure sooner than advertised?
    Or I've missed something!
    I've emailed and see what response I get :-/

    I interpreted the contents of the email as meaning that anyone who was subscribed at the time of the announcement would remain subscribed with
    no further payments necessary until 30/09/27.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mike Fleming@mike@tauzero.co.uk to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat Oct 4 18:42:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 04/10/2025 18:41, Mike Fleming wrote:
    On 04/10/2025 15:33, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
    On 30/09/2025 09:14, Eddie wrote:
    -aFrom an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET, >>>>
    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...

    As it happens my renewal is just due. I've tried to pay it today but
    the option to renew no longer seems to exist.
    They do say that they are not accepting new registrations but this is
    not...
    Maybe they are rushing through a closure sooner than advertised?
    Or I've missed something!
    I've emailed and see what response I get :-/

    I interpreted the contents of the email as meaning that anyone who was subscribed at the time of the announcement would remain subscribed with
    no further payments necessary until 30/09/27.

    Following up to myself:


    "Existing users may continue to use the service until its termination, regardless of their current subscription period. Please do not make any further payments from now on."
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Chris Deuchar@chrisnd@privacy.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Sat Oct 4 21:25:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 04/10/2025 18:42, Mike Fleming wrote:
    On 04/10/2025 18:41, Mike Fleming wrote:
    On 04/10/2025 15:33, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
    On 30/09/2025 09:14, Eddie wrote:
    -aFrom an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE / News.Individual.NET, >>>>>
    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...

    As it happens my renewal is just due. I've tried to pay it today but
    the option to renew no longer seems to exist.
    They do say that they are not accepting new registrations but this is
    not...
    Maybe they are rushing through a closure sooner than advertised?
    Or I've missed something!
    I've emailed and see what response I get :-/

    I interpreted the contents of the email as meaning that anyone who was
    subscribed at the time of the announcement would remain subscribed with
    no further payments necessary until 30/09/27.

    Following up to myself:


    "Existing users may continue to use the service until its termination, >regardless of their current subscription period. Please do not make any >further payments from now on."

    Thanks for that. Curiously the only email I got was a reminder to pay! I
    just thought that they hadn't bothered sending the 'termination of service'
    one cos if I didn't renew then they wouldn't need to IYSWIM?

    Chris
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From chrisnd @ukrm@chrisnd@privacy.net to uk.rec.motorcycles on Mon Oct 6 14:42:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.rec.motorcycles

    On 04/10/2025 22:25, Chris Deuchar wrote:
    On 04/10/2025 18:42, Mike Fleming wrote:
    On 04/10/2025 18:41, Mike Fleming wrote:
    On 04/10/2025 15:33, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
    On 30/09/2025 09:14, Eddie wrote:
    -aFrom an email I've just received:

    Dear Users of the news server News.Individual.DE /
    News.Individual.NET,

    We hereby announce the discontinuation of the service as of 30
    September 2027 (that is two years from now).

    I'm going to have to find a new server...

    As it happens my renewal is just due. I've tried to pay it today but
    the option to renew no longer seems to exist.
    They do say that they are not accepting new registrations but this
    is not...
    Maybe they are rushing through a closure sooner than advertised?
    Or I've missed something!
    I've emailed and see what response I get :-/

    I interpreted the contents of the email as meaning that anyone who
    was subscribed at the time of the announcement would remain
    subscribed with no further payments necessary until 30/09/27.

    Following up to myself:


    "Existing users may continue to use the service until its termination,
    regardless of their current subscription period. Please do not make
    any further payments from now on."

    Thanks for that.-a Curiously the only email I got was a reminder to pay!-a I just thought that they hadn't bothered sending the 'termination of service' one cos if I didn't renew then they wouldn't need to IYSWIM?

    Bad form etc. - but I have received a reply from NIN as follows,
    "There's no need or option to pay again. You can continue to use the
    service until it's shut down in two years."

    - which obvs confirms Mike F's previous.

    Cheers, Chris
    --
    The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
    Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550T
    https://www.Deuchars.org.uk
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2