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Went to a shop in Mblaga to "try some alternatives".
Tried one made of olive wood and was almost tempted by the novelty factor, >but came home with a rather inexpensive Paco Castillo 204.
If I don't like it, I've only wasted 632C.
On 2 Aug 2025 15:03:36 GMT, Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com>
wrote:
Went to a shop in Mblaga to "try some alternatives".
S'funny how these accidents happen isn't it :-)
I recall going to a bicycle shop to get a wheel re-spoked. I left
with a whole new bike...
Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
On 2 Aug 2025 15:03:36 GMT, Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com>
wrote:
Went to a shop in M|ilaga to "try some alternatives".
S'funny how these accidents happen isn't it :-)
I recall going to a bicycle shop to get a wheel re-spoked. I left
with a whole new bike...
Same here a couple of days ago, except it was "P" that ended up
getting a new bicycle. So now I won't hear about how hard to pedal
her old BSO was, and she has s/no excuse/fewer excuses/ not to go
cycling with me..
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/comfort-recreation-bikes/verve/f/F411/verve-2-lowstep-gen-5/40810/
On 04/08/2025 19:44, Mark Olson wrote:
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/comfort-recreation-bikes/verve/f/F411/verve-2-lowstep-gen-5/40810/
No lights, mudguards or chain guard, so not a proper bicycle of course :-). Nice and light though at 14kg.
Is that a reflective strip on the tyres?
geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:
On 04/08/2025 19:44, Mark Olson wrote:
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/comfort-recreation-bikes/verve/f/F411/verve-2-lowstep-gen-5/40810/
No lights, mudguards or chain guard, so not a proper bicycle of course :-). >> Nice and light though at 14kg.
Is that a reflective strip on the tyres?
We have tiny LED front and rear lamps on our bikes, not that we ever >intentionally ride after dark. We're also fair weather riders and
not riding off road so hopefully mudguards are not necessary.
A reflective strip on the wheel or tire would be welcome, but the tires
are blackwalls and there's nothing reflective on the rim. Each wheel
has a ~125mm reflector affixed to the spokes (which might be a legal >requirement here), which are curiously absent in the gallery photos.
It's definitely lighter than the old bike, which was heavier than
a heavy thing. I negated a bit of the weight advantage by fitting a
wire basket to the bars (at her insistence), and a Kryptonite U-lock
to the seat stay.
Shirley Valentine: "I mean with most fellas if you say something like,
like "My favorite season's autumn", they go "Oh, oh, my favorite
season's spring" and then you've got 10 minutes of them talkin' about
why they like spring and you weren't talkin' about spring, you were
talkin' about autumn."
Went to a shop in M|ilaga to "try some alternatives".
Tried one made of olive wood and was almost tempted by the novelty factor, but came home with a rather inexpensive Paco Castillo 204.
If I don't like it, I've only wasted 632re4.
No cutout and no raised fretboard, so anything past the 12th is
decoration.
On 04/08/2025 19:44, Mark Olson wrote:<checks own bike>
Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
On 2 Aug 2025 15:03:36 GMT, Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com>
wrote:
Went to a shop in M|ilaga to "try some alternatives".
S'funny how these accidents happen isn't it :-)
I recall going to a bicycle shop to get a wheel re-spoked.-a I left
with a whole new bike...
Same here a couple of days ago, except it was "P" that ended up
getting a new bicycle.-a So now I won't hear about how hard to pedal
her old BSO was, and she has s/no excuse/fewer excuses/ not to go
cycling with me..
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/comfort-
recreation-bikes/verve/f/F411/verve-2-lowstep-gen-5/40810/
No lights, mudguards or chain guard, so not a proper bicycle of course :-).
On 04/08/2025 22:28, geoffC wrote:
On 04/08/2025 19:44, Mark Olson wrote:
Well, I added the lights after I bought it, so this isn't a bicycle then? >https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/toughroad-slr-2-2022
I recall going to a bicycle shop to get a wheel re-spoked.-a I left
with a whole new bike...
Same here a couple of days ago, except it was "P" that ended up
getting a new bicycle.-a So now I won't hear about how hard to pedal
her old BSO was, and she has s/no excuse/fewer excuses/ not to go
cycling with me..
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/comfort-
recreation-bikes/verve/f/F411/verve-2-lowstep-gen-5/40810/
No lights, mudguards or chain guard, so not a proper bicycle of course :-). ><checks own bike>
</cob>
On 04/08/2025 22:28, geoffC wrote:
On 04/08/2025 19:44, Mark Olson wrote:
<checks own bike>https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/comfort-recreation-bikes/verve/f/F411/verve-2-lowstep-gen-5/40810/
No lights, mudguards or chain guard, so not a proper bicycle of course :-).
Well, I added the lights after I bought it, so this isn't a bicycle then? https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/toughroad-slr-2-2022
</cob>
A reflective strip on the wheel or tire would be welcome, but the
tires are blackwalls and there's nothing reflective on the rim. Each
wheel has a ~125mm reflector affixed to the spokes (which might be a
legal requirement here), which are curiously absent in the gallery
photos.
On 02/08/2025 16:03, Paul Carmichael wrote:
Went to a shop in M|ilaga to "try some alternatives".
Tried one made of olive wood and was almost tempted by the novelty
factor,
but came home with a rather inexpensive Paco Castillo 204.
If I don't like it, I've only wasted 632re4.
No cutout and no raised fretboard, so anything past the 12th is
decoration.
I went into a music shop in Birmingham in 1988 to try out an octaver and although I didn't leave with the bass that I used to test it out, I did decide I had to have it and took my other basses in to part-exchange
against the -u900 price - definitely not an inconsiderable sum for me.
It's still here, hanging on the wall - I play 5-strings now but it gets
an occasional run out for open mic nights.
I went in a shop once to look for a car amp and accidentally saw a bass
on the wall, now it's managed to breed and I have a matching fretless to
go with it as well as a fretless 5 string and a kit built 5 string.
It's a disgusting hobby, but it's so much fun.
YTC#1 <ytc1@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
On 04/08/2025 22:28, geoffC wrote:
On 04/08/2025 19:44, Mark Olson wrote:
Well, I added the lights after I bought it, so this isn't a bicycle then?https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/comfort-recreation-bikes/verve/f/F411/verve-2-lowstep-gen-5/40810/
No lights, mudguards or chain guard, so not a proper bicycle of course :-). >> <checks own bike>
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/toughroad-slr-2-2022
</cob>
It hasn't got any pedals, either!
On 05/08/2025 22:21, cat wrote:
I went in a shop once to look for a car amp and accidentally saw a bass
on the wall, now it's managed to breed and I have a matching fretless to
go with it as well as a fretless 5 string and a kit built 5 string.
It's a disgusting hobby, but it's so much fun.
Borrowed from another place:
- how many basses should a normal person have?
- about five
- that sounds like a bass enthusiast to me
- no, a bass enthusiast has fifteen
- that sounds like someone obsessed with basses
- no, people obsessed with basses have hundreds
- that sounds like a psycho
- no, psychos seldom own basses, or just get one or two
- that sounds like a normal person though...
- no, a normal person has about five, we already covered that...
On 05/08/2025 12:28, Mike Fleming wrote:
I went in a shop once to look for a car amp and accidentally saw a bass
on the wall, now it's managed to breed and I have a matching fretless to
go with it as well as a fretless 5 string
El Tue, 05 Aug 2025 22:21:15 +0100, cat escribi||:
On 05/08/2025 12:28, Mike Fleming wrote:
I went in a shop once to look for a car amp and accidentally saw a bass
on the wall, now it's managed to breed and I have a matching fretless to
go with it as well as a fretless 5 string
My wife and I each have a fretless 4 string. We call them violins.
Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com> wrote in news:pan$bc8cb$afd1ab2d $1fc3d901$d0f5976b@gmail.com:
El Tue, 05 Aug 2025 22:21:15 +0100, cat escribi||:
On 05/08/2025 12:28, Mike Fleming wrote:
I went in a shop once to look for a car amp and accidentally saw a bass
on the wall, now it's managed to breed and I have a matching fretless to >>> go with it as well as a fretless 5 string
My wife and I each have a fretless 4 string. We call them violins.
that's a fiddle
On 06/08/2025 12:27, wessie wrote:
Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com> wrote in
news:pan$bc8cb$afd1ab2d $1fc3d901$d0f5976b@gmail.com:
El Tue, 05 Aug 2025 22:21:15 +0100, cat escribi||:
On 05/08/2025 12:28, Mike Fleming wrote:
I went in a shop once to look for a car amp and accidentally saw a
bass on the wall, now it's managed to breed and I have a matching
fretless to go with it as well as a fretless 5 string
My wife and I each have a fretless 4 string. We call them violins.
that's a fiddle
Or a viol joke!
On 04/08/2025 22:28, geoffC wrote:
On 04/08/2025 19:44, Mark Olson wrote:
<checks own bike>
Same here a couple of days ago, except it was "P" that ended up
getting a new bicycle.-a So now I won't hear about how hard to
pedal her old BSO was, and she has s/no excuse/fewer excuses/ not
to go cycling with me..
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/comfort- >>>recreation-bikes/verve/f/F411/verve-2-lowstep-gen-5/40810/
No lights, mudguards or chain guard, so not a proper bicycle of
course :-).
Well, I added the lights after I bought it, so this isn't a bicycle
then? https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/toughroad-slr-2-2022
</cob>
Borrowed from another place:
- how many basses should a normal person have?
- about five
- that sounds like a bass enthusiast to me
- no, a bass enthusiast has fifteen
- that sounds like someone obsessed with basses
- no, people obsessed with basses have hundreds
- that sounds like a psycho
- no, psychos seldom own basses, or just get one or two
- that sounds like a normal person though...
- no, a normal person has about five, we already covered that...
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 11:12:36 +0100, Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:
Borrowed from another place:
- how many basses should a normal person have?
- about five
- that sounds like a bass enthusiast to me
- no, a bass enthusiast has fifteen
- that sounds like someone obsessed with basses
- no, people obsessed with basses have hundreds
- that sounds like a psycho
- no, psychos seldom own basses, or just get one or two
- that sounds like a normal person though...
- no, a normal person has about five, we already covered that...
heh
What particular 'other place' was this?
On 05/08/2025 22:21, cat wrote:
I went in a shop once to look for a car amp and accidentally saw a bass
on the wall, now it's managed to breed and I have a matching fretless to
go with it as well as a fretless 5 string and a kit built 5 string.
It's a disgusting hobby, but it's so much fun.
Borrowed from another place:
- how many basses should a normal person have?
- about five
- that sounds like a bass enthusiast to me
- no, a bass enthusiast has fifteen
- that sounds like someone obsessed with basses
- no, people obsessed with basses have hundreds
- that sounds like a psycho
- no, psychos seldom own basses, or just get one or two
- that sounds like a normal person though...
- no, a normal person has about five, we already covered that...
"chrisnd @ukrm" <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote in >news:mfgtp2Fug6dU3@mid.individual.net:
On 06/08/2025 12:27, wessie wrote:
Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com> wrote in
news:pan$bc8cb$afd1ab2d $1fc3d901$d0f5976b@gmail.com:
El Tue, 05 Aug 2025 22:21:15 +0100, cat escribi||:
On 05/08/2025 12:28, Mike Fleming wrote:
I went in a shop once to look for a car amp and accidentally saw a
bass on the wall, now it's managed to breed and I have a matching
fretless to go with it as well as a fretless 5 string
My wife and I each have a fretless 4 string. We call them violins.
that's a fiddle
Or a viol joke!
oi, no fretting
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 11:59:52 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
"chrisnd @ukrm" <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote in >>news:mfgtp2Fug6dU3@mid.individual.net:
On 06/08/2025 12:27, wessie wrote:
Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com> wrote in
news:pan$bc8cb$afd1ab2d $1fc3d901$d0f5976b@gmail.com:
El Tue, 05 Aug 2025 22:21:15 +0100, cat escribi||:
On 05/08/2025 12:28, Mike Fleming wrote:
I went in a shop once to look for a car amp and accidentally saw a >>>>>> bass on the wall, now it's managed to breed and I have a matching
fretless to go with it as well as a fretless 5 string
My wife and I each have a fretless 4 string. We call them violins.
that's a fiddle
Or a viol joke!
oi, no fretting
To bow or not to bow that is the question.
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 09:27:22 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 11:59:52 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
"chrisnd @ukrm" <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote in
news:mfgtp2Fug6dU3@mid.individual.net:
On 06/08/2025 12:27, wessie wrote:
Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com> wrote in
news:pan$bc8cb$afd1ab2d $1fc3d901$d0f5976b@gmail.com:
El Tue, 05 Aug 2025 22:21:15 +0100, cat escribi|a-|:
On 05/08/2025 12:28, Mike Fleming wrote:
I went in a shop once to look for a car amp and accidentally saw a >>>>>>> bass on the wall, now it's managed to breed and I have a matching >>>>>>> fretless to go with it as well as a fretless 5 string
My wife and I each have a fretless 4 string. We call them violins. >>>>>>
that's a fiddle
Or a viol joke!
oi, no fretting
To bow or not to bow that is the question.
No it's nut.
On 08/08/2025 10:24, Colin Irvine wrote:saw a
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 09:27:22 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 11:59:52 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
"chrisnd @ukrm" <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote in
news:mfgtp2Fug6dU3@mid.individual.net:
On 06/08/2025 12:27, wessie wrote:
Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com> wrote in
news:pan$bc8cb$afd1ab2d $1fc3d901$d0f5976b@gmail.com:
El Tue, 05 Aug 2025 22:21:15 +0100, cat escribi|a-|:
On 05/08/2025 12:28, Mike Fleming wrote:
I went in a shop once to look for a car amp and accidentally
matchingbass on the wall, now it's managed to breed and I have a
violins.fretless to go with it as well as a fretless 5 string
My wife and I each have a fretless 4 string. We call them
Some are just too highly strung!
that's a fiddle
Or a viol joke!
oi, no fretting
To bow or not to bow that is the question.
No it's nut.
"chrisnd @ukrm" <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote in news:mfm7deFrdnjU1 >@mid.individual.net:
On 08/08/2025 10:24, Colin Irvine wrote:saw a
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 09:27:22 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 11:59:52 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
"chrisnd @ukrm" <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote in
news:mfgtp2Fug6dU3@mid.individual.net:
On 06/08/2025 12:27, wessie wrote:
Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants@gmail.com> wrote in
news:pan$bc8cb$afd1ab2d $1fc3d901$d0f5976b@gmail.com:
El Tue, 05 Aug 2025 22:21:15 +0100, cat escribi|a-|:
On 05/08/2025 12:28, Mike Fleming wrote:
I went in a shop once to look for a car amp and accidentally
matchingbass on the wall, now it's managed to breed and I have a
violins.fretless to go with it as well as a fretless 5 string
My wife and I each have a fretless 4 string. We call them
Some are just too highly strung!
that's a fiddle
Or a viol joke!
oi, no fretting
To bow or not to bow that is the question.
No it's nut.
plucky Brits
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:39:35 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
plucky Brits
That resinates.
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 15:24:23 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:39:35 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
plucky Brits
That resinates.
Probably, but, in the case of bowing, I'd say it more likely resonates
or perhaps ronsinates.
On 08/08/2025 18:42, Worst Case@dizum.com wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 15:24:23 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:39:35 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
plucky Brits
That resinates.
Probably, but, in the case of bowing, I'd say it more likely resonates
or perhaps ronsinates.
ITYM Rosinates?
On 07/08/2025 12:40, Champ wrote:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 11:12:36 +0100, Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:
Borrowed from another place:
What particular 'other place' was this?
Mastodon, where all the cool kids hang out
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 14:15:52 +0100, Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:
On 07/08/2025 12:40, Champ wrote:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 11:12:36 +0100, Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:
Mastodon, where all the cool kids hang out
ah, ok - I still look in their occasionally, but I mostly use Bluesky nowadays
YTC#1 wrote:
On 04/08/2025 22:28, geoffC wrote:
On 04/08/2025 19:44, Mark Olson wrote:
<checks own bike>
Same here a couple of days ago, except it was "P" that ended up
getting a new bicycle.-a So now I won't hear about how hard to
pedal her old BSO was, and she has s/no excuse/fewer excuses/ not
to go cycling with me..
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/comfort-
recreation-bikes/verve/f/F411/verve-2-lowstep-gen-5/40810/
No lights, mudguards or chain guard, so not a proper bicycle of
course :-).
Well, I added the lights after I bought it, so this isn't a bicycle
then? https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/toughroad-slr-2-2022
</cob>
completely useless, I mean HTF are you going to carry a crate of beer
with that?
On 09/08/2025 08:51, Chris Deuchar wrote:
On 08/08/2025 18:42, Worst Case@dizum.com wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 15:24:23 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:39:35 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
plucky Brits
That resinates.
Probably, but, in the case of bowing, I'd say it more likely resonates
or perhaps ronsinates.
ITYM Rosinates?
Depends if it does what it says on the tin or not?
ITYM Rosinates?
On 08/08/2025 18:42, Worst Case@dizum.com wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 15:24:23 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:39:35 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
plucky Brits
That resinates.
Probably, but, in the case of bowing, I'd say it more likely resonates
or perhaps ronsinates.
ITYM Rosinates?
On 9 Aug 2025 07:51:22 GMT, Chris Deuchar <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
On 08/08/2025 18:42, Worst Case@dizum.com wrote:Yeah, the misspelling was not accidental. When I played violin we always pronounced it with an E sound anyway.
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 15:24:23 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:39:35 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
plucky Brits
That resinates.
Probably, but, in the case of bowing, I'd say it more likely resonates
or perhaps ronsinates.
ITYM Rosinates?
On 09/08/2025 13:57, Champ wrote:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 14:15:52 +0100, Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:
On 07/08/2025 12:40, Champ wrote:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 11:12:36 +0100, Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:
Mastodon, where all the cool kids hang out
ah, ok - I still look in their occasionally, but I mostly use Bluesky
nowadays
You could bridge your Bluesky account to Mastodon and get the best (and >worst) of both worlds:
https://fed.brid.gy/docs#bluesky-get-started
On 06/08/2025 16:29, GeoffC wrote:
YTC#1 wrote:
On 04/08/2025 22:28, geoffC wrote:
On 04/08/2025 19:44, Mark Olson wrote:
<checks own bike>
Same here a couple of days ago, except it was "P" that ended
up getting a new bicycle.-a So now I won't hear about how hard
to pedal her old BSO was, and she has s/no excuse/fewer
excuses/ not to go cycling with me..
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/comfort- >>>>>recreation-bikes/verve/f/F411/verve-2-lowstep-gen-5/40810/
No lights, mudguards or chain guard, so not a proper bicycle of
course :-).
Well, I added the lights after I bought it, so this isn't a
bicycle then?
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/toughroad-slr-2-2022 </cob>
completely useless, I mean HTF are you going to carry a crate of
beer with that?
I'll use an XJ900F, 1 crate in each side pannier, 1 in the rear and 1
on the lap of the pillion rider. +some wine to fill the gaps.
Then ride up the hill from Bandol back to the Paul Ricard circuit,
naturally.
YTC#1 wrote:
On 06/08/2025 16:29, GeoffC wrote:
YTC#1 wrote:
On 04/08/2025 22:28, geoffC wrote:
On 04/08/2025 19:44, Mark Olson wrote:
<checks own bike>
Same here a couple of days ago, except it was "P" that ended
up getting a new bicycle.-a So now I won't hear about how hard
to pedal her old BSO was, and she has s/no excuse/fewer
excuses/ not to go cycling with me..
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/comfort-
recreation-bikes/verve/f/F411/verve-2-lowstep-gen-5/40810/
No lights, mudguards or chain guard, so not a proper bicycle of
course :-).
Well, I added the lights after I bought it, so this isn't a
bicycle then?
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/toughroad-slr-2-2022 </cob>
completely useless, I mean HTF are you going to carry a crate of
beer with that?
I'll use an XJ900F, 1 crate in each side pannier, 1 in the rear and 1
on the lap of the pillion rider. +some wine to fill the gaps.
Then ride up the hill from Bandol back to the Paul Ricard circuit,
naturally.
Yebbut, French beer is not really beer is it.
On 13/08/2025 11:43, GeoffC wrote:
YTC#1 wrote:
On 06/08/2025 16:29, GeoffC wrote:
YTC#1 wrote:
On 04/08/2025 22:28, geoffC wrote:
On 04/08/2025 19:44, Mark Olson wrote:
<checks own bike>
Same here a couple of days ago, except it was "P" that
ended up getting a new bicycle.-a So now I won't hear
about how hard to pedal her old BSO was, and she has s/no >>>>>>>excuse/fewer excuses/ not to go cycling with me..
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/comfort- >>>>>>>recreation-bikes/verve/f/F411/verve-2-lowstep-gen-5/40810/
No lights, mudguards or chain guard, so not a proper
bicycle of course :-).
Well, I added the lights after I bought it, so this isn't a
bicycle then?
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/toughroad-slr-2-2022 </cob>
completely useless, I mean HTF are you going to carry a crate of
beer with that?
I'll use an XJ900F, 1 crate in each side pannier, 1 in the rear
and 1 on the lap of the pillion rider. +some wine to fill the
gaps.
Then ride up the hill from Bandol back to the Paul Ricard circuit, >>>naturally.
Yebbut, French beer is not really beer is it.
Sorry, biere.
Yebbut, French beer is not really beer is it.
Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
I recall going to a bicycle shop to get a wheel re-spoked. I left
with a whole new bike...
Same here a couple of days ago, except it was "P" that ended up
getting a new bicycle. So now I won't hear about how hard to pedal
her old BSO was, and she has s/no excuse/fewer excuses/ not to go
cycling with me..
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/comfort-recreation-bikes/verve/f/F411/verve-2-lowstep-gen-5/40810/
"GeoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote in news:107hq7r$3ri43$1@dont-email.me:
Yebbut, French beer is not really beer is it.
Fortunatley, Leffe, Grimbergen and Affligem are widely available in
France nowadays. I even found a draught Austrian wheet beer in a bar
in Oloron Ste Marie.
Also pleased to see the Spanish adopting brown beers like Mahou 1906
& Voll Damm Doble available on draught.
Mark Olson wrote:
Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
I recall going to a bicycle shop to get a wheel re-spoked. I left
with a whole new bike...
Same here a couple of days ago, except it was "P" that ended up
getting a new bicycle. So now I won't hear about how hard to pedal
her old BSO was, and she has s/no excuse/fewer excuses/ not to go
cycling with me..
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/comfort-recreation-bikes/verve/f/F411/verve-2-lowstep-gen-5/40810/
After watching SWMBO gasping and sweating up the hills in Austria and
Italy on a normal bicycle we went in last week and bought her one of
these:
https://www.fietsvoordeelshop.nl/gazelle-grenoble-c8-hmb-2025-zwart-mat-dames
500Wh battery, limited to 25km/h but that is easily remedied. If it is
any good might get one myself.
wessie wrote:
"GeoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote in news:107hq7r$3ri43$1@dont-email.me:
Yebbut, French beer is not really beer is it.
Fortunatley, Leffe, Grimbergen and Affligem are widely available in
France nowadays. I even found a draught Austrian wheet beer in a bar
in Oloron Ste Marie.
Also pleased to see the Spanish adopting brown beers like Mahou 1906
& Voll Damm Doble available on draught.
Mwaaaa.....I remain sceptical. Draught beer is often badly stored or
served and bottled beer?....check the sell by date. I think it's just
not in their DNA. Wine OTOH? yeah I'll stick to that if it's all the
same.
Just come back from a couple of weeks in Bavaria, now that's what I
call beer, widely available, good price and taste and quality to die
for. The wine in N.Bavaria is very pleasant too. A glass of dry white
outside a cafe on a sunny afternoon was pure pleasure and the
measures!!! C5 for 0.25L (and a bit) such that you would not get 3
glasses from a normal bottle :-)
Yebbut, French beer is not really beer is it.
Sorry, biere.
ITYM bi*re :-)
Fizzy piss is a better translation IME :-)
"GeoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote in news:107i0bc$3st3l$1@dont-email.me:
wessie wrote:
"GeoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote in news:107hq7r$3ri43$1@dont-email.me:
Yebbut, French beer is not really beer is it.
Fortunatley, Leffe, Grimbergen and Affligem are widely available
in France nowadays. I even found a draught Austrian wheet beer in
a bar in Oloron Ste Marie.
Also pleased to see the Spanish adopting brown beers like Mahou
1906 & Voll Damm Doble available on draught.
Mwaaaa.....I remain sceptical. Draught beer is often badly stored
or served and bottled beer?....check the sell by date. I think
it's just not in their DNA. Wine OTOH? yeah I'll stick to that if
it's all the same.
Just come back from a couple of weeks in Bavaria, now that's what I
call beer, widely available, good price and taste and quality to
die for. The wine in N.Bavaria is very pleasant too. A glass of
dry white outside a cafe on a sunny afternoon was pure pleasure
and the measures!!! C5 for 0.25L (and a bit) such that you would
not get 3 glasses from a normal bottle :-)
seems you are a bit out of touch with the French
wine sales are down markedly as widely reported in the press in
recent months. The French government are subsidising the grubbing up
of vineyards so they do not go back to the days of wine lakes.
The younger French are very much into beer and you are more likely to
see a Belgian or Italian lager on sale than Kronenburg. This is
despite bar prices in France being rather high at 7 euros for half a
litre of Affligem.
As for beer quality, I've ridden tens of thousands of miles across
Europe and I am not noticing a quality problem.
I also like Germany (and Austria). Scraggy, SO and I were in Bavaria, >Voralberg and the Mosel. We drank beer, red and white wine. Beer was
rarely more than 4 euros for half a litre of Weissbier and often
less. We had a memorable bottle of Dornfelder red wine on a Mosel
cruise. So much so, we had a second one between us on the retrun leg.
That was 19 euros, so not such good value as 2.5 litres of Weizen.
On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 11:28:46 -0000 (UTC), "GeoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote:<snigger>
Yebbut, French beer is not really beer is it.
Sorry, biere.
ITYM bi|?re :-)
Fizzy piss is a better translation IME :-)
<small voice>
I quite like it
GeoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:
Mark Olson wrote:
Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
I recall going to a bicycle shop to get a wheel re-spoked. I
left with a whole new bike...
Same here a couple of days ago, except it was "P" that ended up
getting a new bicycle. So now I won't hear about how hard to
pedal her old BSO was, and she has s/no excuse/fewer excuses/ not
to go cycling with me..
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/comfort-recreation-bikes/verve/f/F411/verve-2-lowstep-gen-5/40810/
After watching SWMBO gasping and sweating up the hills in Austria
and Italy on a normal bicycle we went in last week and bought her
one of these:
https://www.fietsvoordeelshop.nl/gazelle-grenoble-c8-hmb-2025-zwart- >>mat-dames 500Wh battery, limited to 25km/h but that is easily
remedied. If it is any good might get one myself.
That looks the business, but the price seems a bit over the top to me.
Yes, I know I am out of touch, get with it gramps, etc.
As we have just yesterday returned from a road trip with our bicycles
to sunny (and hilly) Colorado, it appears that the recent bicycle
purchase was just for the purpose of confirming that there will now be
a second, more expensive, e-bike purchase in the near future. This is
on top of having to purchase a trailer hitch and a hitch mounted rack
for transporting the bicycles. The Thule 910XT strap-on rack revealed
its limitations early on the trip. I had better pick a carrier rated
for the weight of e-bikes, I guess.
This cycling lark is looking suspiciously akin to the motorcycle one,
in unexpected cash outlay terms...
On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 11:28:46 -0000 (UTC), "GeoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote:
Yebbut, French beer is not really beer is it.
Sorry, biere.
ITYM bi|?re :-)
Fizzy piss is a better translation IME :-)
<small voice>
I quite like it
On 13/08/2025 14:30, Champ wrote:
On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 11:28:46 -0000 (UTC), "GeoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote:
Yebbut, French beer is not really beer is it.
Sorry, biere.
ITYM bi|?re :-)
Fizzy piss is a better translation IME :-)
<small voice>
I quite like it
+1 (French beer, not piss)
On 09/08/2025 12:04, cat wrote:
On 09/08/2025 08:51, Chris Deuchar wrote:
On 08/08/2025 18:42, Worst Case@dizum.com wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 15:24:23 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:39:35 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
plucky Brits
That resinates.
Probably, but, in the case of bowing, I'd say it more likely resonates >>>> or perhaps ronsinates.
ITYM Rosinates?
Depends if it does what it says on the tin or not?
If I'd driven faster I'd have got that one in :-)
On 09/08/2025 16:59, YTC#1 wrote:
On 09/08/2025 12:04, cat wrote:
On 09/08/2025 08:51, Chris Deuchar wrote:
On 08/08/2025 18:42, Worst Case@dizum.com wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 15:24:23 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:39:35 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
plucky Brits
That resinates.
Probably, but, in the case of bowing, I'd say it more likely
resonates or perhaps ronsinates.
ITYM Rosinates?
Depends if it does what it says on the tin or not?
If I'd driven faster I'd have got that one in :-)
I feel this is all a bridge too far.
On 13/08/2025 14:30, Champ wrote:
On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 11:28:46 -0000 (UTC), "GeoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote:
Yebbut, French beer is not really beer is it.
Sorry, biere.
ITYM bi|?re :-)
Fizzy piss is a better translation IME :-)
<small voice>
I quite like it
+1 (French beer, not piss)
El Thu, 14 Aug 2025 09:11:43 +0100, Simon Wilson escribi||:
On 13/08/2025 14:30, Champ wrote:
On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 11:28:46 -0000 (UTC), "GeoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote:
Yebbut, French beer is not really beer is it.
Sorry, biere.
ITYM bi|?re :-)
Fizzy piss is a better translation IME :-)
<small voice>
I quite like it
+1 (French beer, not piss)
I've got used to the Spanish stuff. Alhambra or Mahou - less than 1 euro a >bottle of 33cl. Two euros in the bar. I pay less, of course. Can't abide
the Cruzcampo, but it's cheap.
Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in news:mg5rkrFfge7U1@mid.individual.net:
On 09/08/2025 16:59, YTC#1 wrote:
On 09/08/2025 12:04, cat wrote:
On 09/08/2025 08:51, Chris Deuchar wrote:
On 08/08/2025 18:42, Worst Case@dizum.com wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 15:24:23 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:39:35 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
plucky Brits
That resinates.
Probably, but, in the case of bowing, I'd say it more likely
resonates or perhaps ronsinates.
ITYM Rosinates?
Depends if it does what it says on the tin or not?
If I'd driven faster I'd have got that one in :-)
I feel this is all a bridge too far.
yes, no need to pickup this nonsense again
On 14/08/2025 11:48, wessie wrote:
Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in
news:mg5rkrFfge7U1@mid.individual.net:
On 09/08/2025 16:59, YTC#1 wrote:
On 09/08/2025 12:04, cat wrote:
On 09/08/2025 08:51, Chris Deuchar wrote:
On 08/08/2025 18:42, Worst Case@dizum.com wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 15:24:23 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:39:35 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
plucky Brits
That resinates.
Probably, but, in the case of bowing, I'd say it more likely
resonates or perhaps ronsinates.
ITYM Rosinates?
Depends if it does what it says on the tin or not?
If I'd driven faster I'd have got that one in :-)
I feel this is all a bridge too far.
yes, no need to pickup this nonsense again
Its a load of humbuckers!
On 14/08/2025 13:09, Paul Carmichael wrote:
I've got used to the Spanish stuff. Alhambra or Mahou - less than 1 euroYou get discount in a bar?
a bottle of 33cl. Two euros in the bar. I pay less, of course.
Alcohol is very cheap in Spain.
I like those 20cl bottle btw. Fill a fridge with 'em.
Browsing the Lidl.es folder, tins of Mahou or Heineken for 63c, apart from
the spirits, alcohol per euro is even cheaper in the Tinto de Verano 1.19
for 1.5L.
Alcohol is very cheap in Spain.
"chrisnd @ukrm" <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote in news:mg6b8vFffl8U2 >@mid.individual.net:
On 14/08/2025 11:48, wessie wrote:
Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in
news:mg5rkrFfge7U1@mid.individual.net:
On 09/08/2025 16:59, YTC#1 wrote:
On 09/08/2025 12:04, cat wrote:
On 09/08/2025 08:51, Chris Deuchar wrote:
On 08/08/2025 18:42, Worst Case@dizum.com wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2025 15:24:23 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:39:35 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
plucky Brits
That resinates.
Probably, but, in the case of bowing, I'd say it more likely
resonates or perhaps ronsinates.
ITYM Rosinates?
Depends if it does what it says on the tin or not?
If I'd driven faster I'd have got that one in :-)
I feel this is all a bridge too far.
yes, no need to pickup this nonsense again
Its a load of humbuckers!
Bah humbuck was going to be my next one...
You;'re all nuts, I tell you.
Anyway, back to guitars, I recently bit the bullet and got
electrified. So my 1971 Guild 12-string now sports a posh humbucker &
mic combo pickup in the shape of a https://www.thomannmusic.com/intl/fishman_rare_earth_blend.htm and a
rather nice Marshal acoustic guitar Amp.
Took it along to a party in the West of France last month, Neal's (and
mine, I guess) mate Howard's birthday do, where he hooked it up
through his PA and I did a few songs, then bashed 'Rocking in the Free
World' out together with their band of 40 years, Roaring Trade. Great
fun.
Did a gig-ette down the real-ale pub over in France last Friday as
well, 15 songs or so, seemed to go down quite well.
Well, I've got to find something to do now I'm on my own, innit?
I feel this is all a bridge too far.
yes, no need to pickup this nonsense again
Its a load of humbuckers!
Bah humbuck was going to be my next one...
Anyway, back to guitars, I recently bit the bullet and got
electrified. So my 1971 Guild 12-string now sports a posh humbucker &
mic combo pickup in the shape of a https://www.thomannmusic.com/intl/fishman_rare_earth_blend.htm and a
rather nice Marshal acoustic guitar Amp.
Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote in news:p09s9klc4ah6gl775grc80ikolhr2t1pc5@4ax.com:
You;'re all nuts, I tell you.
ginger nut
On 14/08/2025 19:11, Ace wrote:
Anyway, back to guitars, I recently bit the bullet and got
electrified. So my 1971 Guild 12-string now sports a posh humbucker &
mic combo pickup in the shape of a
https://www.thomannmusic.com/intl/fishman_rare_earth_blend.htm and a
rather nice Marshal acoustic guitar Amp.
Found it at https://www.andertons.co.uk/fishman-rare-earth-blend-acoustic-guitar-pickup/
Looks a good idea. Don't think I'll be getting one as it's as expensive
as any two of my acoustic guitars combined.
Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:
On 14/08/2025 19:11, Ace wrote:
Anyway, back to guitars, I recently bit the bullet and got
electrified. So my 1971 Guild 12-string now sports a posh humbucker &
mic combo pickup in the shape of a
https://www.thomannmusic.com/intl/fishman_rare_earth_blend.htm and a
rather nice Marshal acoustic guitar Amp.
Found it at
https://www.andertons.co.uk/fishman-rare-earth-blend-acoustic-guitar-pickup/ >>
Looks a good idea. Don't think I'll be getting one as it's as expensive
as any two of my acoustic guitars combined.
"Pre-wired output jack can also be endpin mounted"
What would the non-invasive alternative to endpin mounting be, to
run the output lead out the soundhole?
On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 12:32:19 -0000 (UTC), geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:
Browsing the Lidl.es folder, tins of Mahou or Heineken for 63c,
apart from the spirits, alcohol per euro is even cheaper in the
Tinto de Verano 1.19 for 1.5L.
Alcohol is very cheap in Spain.
And France, Germany, Italy... Even CH is cheap (in the shops) compared
with the UK. My ordinary Kronenbourg in Franch supermarkets is about
50c for a stubby (25cl). Buying the own brand stuff uts that in half,
but it's just not worth lowering one's standards.
El Thu, 14 Aug 2025 12:32:19 +0000, geoffC escribi||:
On 14/08/2025 13:09, Paul Carmichael wrote:
I've got used to the Spanish stuff. Alhambra or Mahou - less thanYou get discount in a bar?
1 euro a bottle of 33cl. Two euros in the bar. I pay less, of
course.
I do. I'm quite a good client.
Alcohol is very cheap in Spain.
Menos mal.
I like those 20cl bottle btw. Fill a fridge with 'em.
Spend more time opening the things than drinking from them.
"GeoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote in news:107i0bc$3st3l$1@dont-email.me:
wessie wrote:
"GeoffC" <me@home.nl> wrote in news:107hq7r$3ri43$1@dont-email.me:
Yebbut, French beer is not really beer is it.
Fortunatley, Leffe, Grimbergen and Affligem are widely available in
France nowadays. I even found a draught Austrian wheet beer in a bar
in Oloron Ste Marie.
Also pleased to see the Spanish adopting brown beers like Mahou 1906
& Voll Damm Doble available on draught.
Mwaaaa.....I remain sceptical. Draught beer is often badly stored or
served and bottled beer?....check the sell by date. I think it's just
not in their DNA. Wine OTOH? yeah I'll stick to that if it's all the
same.
Just come back from a couple of weeks in Bavaria, now that's what I
call beer, widely available, good price and taste and quality to die
for. The wine in N.Bavaria is very pleasant too. A glass of dry white
outside a cafe on a sunny afternoon was pure pleasure and the
measures!!! re45 for 0.25L (and a bit) such that you would not get 3
glasses from a normal bottle :-)
seems you are a bit out of touch with the French
wine sales are down markedly as widely reported in the press in recent months. The French government are subsidising the grubbing up of
vineyards so they do not go back to the days of wine lakes.
The younger French are very much into beer and you are more likely to
see a Belgian or Italian lager on sale than Kronenburg. This is despite
bar prices in France being rather high at 7 euros for half a litre of Affligem.
wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
The younger French are very much into beer and you are more likely toThereAs a quite substantial microbrewery thing going on too, though, >according to the owner of our local pub, lots are closing down due to
see a Belgian or Italian lager on sale than Kronenburg. This is despite
bar prices in France being rather high at 7 euros for half a litre of
Affligem.
energy costs. Thankfully theyAve mostly avoided the American-style IPA
thing and there are some very pleasant beers.
Went to a shop in M|ilaga to "try some alternatives".
Tried one made of olive wood and was almost tempted by the novelty
factor,
but came home with a rather inexpensive Paco Castillo 204.
If I don't like it, I've only wasted 632re4.
No cutout and no raised fretboard, so anything past the 12th is
decoration.
Did a gig-ette down the real-ale pub over in France last Friday as
well, 15 songs or so, seemed to go down quite well.
On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 20:11:35 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
Did a gig-ette down the real-ale pub over in France last Friday as
well, 15 songs or so, seemed to go down quite well.
15 songs! That's already a decent set! Well done
On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 09:25:11 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:Whatever gave you the idea for that? :-)
On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 20:11:35 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
Did a gig-ette down the real-ale pub over in France last Friday as
well, 15 songs or so, seemed to go down quite well.
15 songs! That's already a decent set! Well done
Got about 40 in my book now.
Recent additions include Killing Me Softly
and Sweet Home Alabama,
which has even been re-requested when I did another session-ettee last >Sunday.
On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 12:55:11 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
<olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
Found it at
https://www.andertons.co.uk/fishman-rare-earth-blend-acoustic-guitar-pickup/
Looks a good idea. Don't think I'll be getting one as it's as expensive >>> as any two of my acoustic guitars combined.
"Pre-wired output jack can also be endpin mounted"
What would the non-invasive alternative to endpin mounting be, to
run the output lead out the soundhole?
That's how I've got it at the moment. Going round, through the
strap-hole and then tucked into the buckle on the strap, so nicely out
of the way when playing.
I would not mount in in the body, would require cutting, but at some
point will get round to taking the soldered female 6.3mm Jack and
pushing the wire through - the end peg itself is already drilled from
a much earlier effort, but the cable will still be hanging.
On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 16:11:09 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 12:55:11 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
<olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
Found it at
https://www.andertons.co.uk/fishman-rare-earth-blend-acoustic-guitar-pickup/
Looks a good idea. Don't think I'll be getting one as it's as expensive >>>> as any two of my acoustic guitars combined.
At just over 200 francs it didn't really seem that expensive to me - I
guess it's a Swiss thing - but both of my guitars are worth a lot
more. Last time I looked at the cost of professional level mike/pic up
it was a lot more than that, alathough TBF that was just asking at my
local music shop rather than really researching it properly.
On 21/08/2025 15:38, Ace wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 16:11:09 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 12:55:11 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
<olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:
Found it at
https://www.andertons.co.uk/fishman-rare-earth-blend-acoustic-guitar-pickup/
Looks a good idea. Don't think I'll be getting one as it's as expensive >>>>> as any two of my acoustic guitars combined.
At just over 200 francs it didn't really seem that expensive to me - I
guess it's a Swiss thing - but both of my guitars are worth a lot
more. Last time I looked at the cost of professional level mike/pic up
it was a lot more than that, alathough TBF that was just asking at my
local music shop rather than really researching it properly.
200 francs = u185, rather less than the u320 it would cost here.