• Growing sedum on an existing sloping tiled roof - info?

    From David@wibble@btinternet.com to uk.rec.gardening on Thu Oct 9 14:44:49 2025
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    I have some Sedum plants and fancy trying to establish some on the tiled
    roof of the garage.

    In the past I have seen descriptions of this, but my web searching at the moment just seems to find sellers of Sedum matting and systems for a
    complete green roof.

    Is there more to it than inserting a plant under the edge of a tile,
    perhaps with a bit of growing medium?

    A website link would be very welcome, as well.

    My search skills seem to have deserted me today.

    TIA


    Dave R
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  • From N_Cook@diverse@tcp.co.uk to uk.rec.gardening on Thu Oct 9 20:26:09 2025
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    On 09/10/2025 15:44, David wrote:
    I have some Sedum plants and fancy trying to establish some on the tiled
    roof of the garage.

    In the past I have seen descriptions of this, but my web searching at the moment just seems to find sellers of Sedum matting and systems for a
    complete green roof.

    Is there more to it than inserting a plant under the edge of a tile,
    perhaps with a bit of growing medium?

    A website link would be very welcome, as well.

    My search skills seem to have deserted me today.

    TIA


    Dave R


    I've had success establishing sempervivium "gluing" hessian cloth to a concrete wall with kefir, ie live yoghurt. From an architect tip for establishing lichen, for masking, over modern replacement tiling that is
    not a good colour match to existing historic tiling.
    Then plantlets and a bit of soil over the hessian a few days later.
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  • From Bob Hobden@hobdens@btinternet.com to uk.rec.gardening on Thu Oct 9 22:53:54 2025
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    On 09/10/2025 20:26, N_Cook wrote:
    On 09/10/2025 15:44, David wrote:
    I have some Sedum plants and fancy trying to establish some on the tiled
    roof of the garage.

    In the past I have seen descriptions of this, but my web searching at the
    moment just seems to find sellers of Sedum matting and systems for a
    complete green roof.

    Is there more to it than inserting a plant under the edge of a tile,
    perhaps with a bit of growing medium?

    A website link would be very welcome, as well.

    My search skills seem to have deserted me today.

    TIA


    Dave R


    I've had success establishing sempervivium "gluing" hessian cloth to a concrete wall with kefir, ie live yoghurt. From an architect tip for establishing lichen, for masking, over modern replacement tiling that is
    not a good colour match to existing historic tiling.
    Then plantlets and a bit of soil over the hessian a few days later.



    Now I'm wondering if that method would work on a shady W facing wall to establish some ferns.
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to uk.rec.gardening on Fri Oct 10 13:38:53 2025
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    On 09/10/2025 22:53, Bob Hobden wrote:
    On 09/10/2025 20:26, N_Cook wrote:
    On 09/10/2025 15:44, David wrote:
    I have some Sedum plants and fancy trying to establish some on the tiled >>> roof of the garage.

    In the past I have seen descriptions of this, but my web searching at the >>> moment just seems to find sellers of Sedum matting and systems for a
    complete green roof.

    Is there more to it than inserting a plant under the edge of a tile,
    perhaps with a bit of growing medium?

    A website link would be very welcome, as well.

    My search skills seem to have deserted me today.

    TIA


    Dave R


    I've had success establishing sempervivium "gluing" hessian cloth to a
    concrete wall with kefir, ie live yoghurt. From an architect tip for
    establishing lichen, for masking, over modern replacement tiling that is
    not a good colour match to existing historic tiling.
    Then plantlets and a bit of soil over the hessian a few days later.



    Now I'm wondering if that method would work on a shady W facing wall to establish some ferns.

    Interesting idea (although a north rather than shady west-facing wall
    might be better). You'd probably have to go with something like /Pellaea rotundifolia/ in the south to avoid problems with frost, or /Asplenium scolopendrium/ anywhere in the UK.

    I wonder if you could use tufa with ferns in the same way as this for
    alpines:
    <https://www.jansalpines.com/tufa-wall/>. I'm not even sure how
    available it is in the sort of quantities required, and it wouldn't be
    cheap.
    <https://bathreclamation.co.uk/product/tufa-grotto-stone/>
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  • From Bob Hobden@hobdens@btinternet.com to uk.rec.gardening on Sun Oct 12 13:54:42 2025
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    On 10/10/2025 13:38, Jeff Layman wrote:
    On 09/10/2025 22:53, Bob Hobden wrote:
    On 09/10/2025 20:26, N_Cook wrote:
    On 09/10/2025 15:44, David wrote:
    I have some Sedum plants and fancy trying to establish some on the
    tiled
    roof of the garage.

    In the past I have seen descriptions of this, but my web searching
    at the
    moment just seems to find sellers of Sedum matting and systems for a
    complete green roof.

    Is there more to it than inserting a plant under the edge of a tile,
    perhaps with a bit of growing medium?

    A website link would be very welcome, as well.

    My search skills seem to have deserted me today.

    TIA


    Dave R


    I've had success establishing sempervivium "gluing" hessian cloth to a
    concrete wall with kefir, ie live yoghurt. From an architect tip for
    establishing lichen, for masking, over modern replacement tiling that is >>> not a good colour match to existing historic tiling.
    Then plantlets and a bit of soil over the hessian a few days later.



    Now I'm wondering if that method would work on a shady W facing wall to
    establish some ferns.

    Interesting idea (although a north rather than shady west-facing wall
    might be better). You'd probably have to go with something like /Pellaea rotundifolia/ in the south to avoid problems with frost, or /Asplenium scolopendrium/ anywhere in the UK.

    I wonder if you could use tufa with ferns in the same way as this for alpines:
    <https://www.jansalpines.com/tufa-wall/>. I'm not even sure how
    available it is in the sort of quantities required, and it wouldn't be cheap.
    <https://bathreclamation.co.uk/product/tufa-grotto-stone/>

    I would think that would work if building a wall from scratch. However
    this is an old wall built by nextdoor decades and many incumbents ago
    from reclaimed anything, looks dreadful to be honest and it's not
    straight in any direction.
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