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In one of those modern large created by mass-sow, rewilding urban wild
flower meadows, flowering in June in Hampshire, I visit the town once a month.
I never thought of taking a pic as the explainer board had reference to
only one red flower other than red field poppies, as red campion.
I assumed it was those , but later googling , not campion.
I was surprised to see honesty as one of the bulk wild species amongst
cow parsley, corn flower, teasel, thistle ,poppies etc , so perhaps a naturalised escapee added to the mix.
The distinctive feature was the colour of the flowers being deep blood
red of the hackneyed 12 blood-red roses colour, new one to me.
End of July repeated visit, flowering over , seeds looked formed , so
picked some.
Flattened raindrop shape of apple seeds but black in colour.
On umbels of seedheads that looked like wheat awns by July , so probably
one for dried flower arrangers.
Plants only a foot high , one umbel on each straight unbranched stem
from a cluster of stems near ground level. Leaves smooth edged spears 80
x 15mm and arranged wide spaced singly alternately around the stem.
So googling as text for images got nowhere, no pics for Lens or LeafSnap . seasonalwildflowers.com and its text search got nowhere
and Hillier and Hilton Dried Flowers book with seedhead or red
categories got nowhere.
Tried germinating and first 10 germinated in just 3 days from picking
last week, so whatever they are, more chance to identify later on.
I'll take a camera next month as another much repeated mystery but tall
plant in that half acre or so, just started flowering in July.
On 28/07/2025 13:20, N_Cook wrote:
In one of those modern large created by mass-sow, rewilding urban wild
flower meadows, flowering in June in Hampshire, I visit the town once a
month.
I never thought of taking a pic as the explainer board had reference to
only one red flower other than red field poppies, as red campion.
I assumed it was those , but later googling , not campion.
I was surprised to see honesty as one of the bulk wild species amongst
cow parsley, corn flower, teasel, thistle ,poppies etc , so perhaps a
naturalised escapee added to the mix.
The distinctive feature was the colour of the flowers being deep blood
red of the hackneyed 12 blood-red roses colour, new one to me.
End of July repeated visit, flowering over , seeds looked formed , so
picked some.
Flattened raindrop shape of apple seeds but black in colour.
On umbels of seedheads that looked like wheat awns by July , so probably
one for dried flower arrangers.
Plants only a foot high , one umbel on each straight unbranched stem
from a cluster of stems near ground level. Leaves smooth edged spears 80
x 15mm and arranged wide spaced singly alternately around the stem.
So googling as text for images got nowhere, no pics for Lens or
LeafSnap .
seasonalwildflowers.com and its text search got nowhere
and Hillier and Hilton Dried Flowers book with seedhead or red
categories got nowhere.
Tried germinating and first 10 germinated in just 3 days from picking
last week, so whatever they are, more chance to identify later on.
I'll take a camera next month as another much repeated mystery but tall
plant in that half acre or so, just started flowering in July.
What was the shape of the flower - actinomorphic or zygomorphic? Flat or trumpet-shaped? How many petals? What size was the flower and umbel
(diameter and length)?
Was there any possibility that it might not have been in the seed mix,
but already there previously to the rewilding?
In one of those modern large created by mass-sow, rewilding urban wild flower meadows, flowering in June in Hampshire, I visit the town once a month.
I never thought of taking a pic as the explainer board had reference to
only one red flower other than red field poppies, as red campion.
I assumed it was those , but later googling , not campion.
I was surprised to see honesty as one of the bulk wild species amongst
cow parsley, corn flower, teasel, thistle ,poppies etc , so perhaps a naturalised escapee added to the mix.
The distinctive feature was the colour of the flowers being deep blood
red of the hackneyed 12 blood-red roses colour, new one to me.
End of July repeated visit, flowering over , seeds looked formed , so
picked some.
Flattened raindrop shape of apple seeds but black in colour.
On umbels of seedheads that looked like wheat awns by July , so probably
one for dried flower arrangers.
Plants only a foot high , one umbel on each straight unbranched stem
from a cluster of stems near ground level. Leaves smooth edged spears 80
x 15mm and arranged wide spaced singly alternately around the stem.
So googling as text for images got nowhere, no pics for Lens or LeafSnap . seasonalwildflowers.com and its text search got nowhere
and Hillier and Hilton Dried Flowers book with seedhead or red
categories got nowhere.
Tried germinating and first 10 germinated in just 3 days from picking
last week, so whatever they are, more chance to identify later on.
I'll take a camera next month as another much repeated mystery but tall plant in that half acre or so, just started flowering in July.
On 28/07/2025 13:20, N_Cook wrote:
In one of those modern large created by mass-sow, rewilding urban wild
flower meadows, flowering in June in Hampshire, I visit the town once
a month.
I never thought of taking a pic as the explainer board had reference
to only one red flower other than red field poppies, as red campion.
I assumed it was those , but later googling , not campion.
I was surprised to see honesty as one of the bulk wild species amongst
cow parsley, corn flower, teasel, thistle ,poppies etc , so perhaps a
naturalised escapee added to the mix.
The distinctive feature was the colour of the flowers being deep blood
red of the hackneyed 12 blood-red roses colour, new one to me.
End of July repeated visit, flowering over , seeds looked formed , so
picked some.
Flattened raindrop shape of apple seeds but black in colour.
On umbels of seedheads that looked like wheat awns by July , so
probably one for dried flower arrangers.
Plants only a foot high , one umbel on each straight unbranched stem
from a cluster of stems near ground level. Leaves smooth edged spears
80 x 15mm and arranged wide spaced singly alternately around the stem.
So googling as text for images got nowhere, no pics for Lens or
LeafSnap .
seasonalwildflowers.com and its text search got nowhere
and Hillier and Hilton Dried Flowers book with seedhead or red
categories got nowhere.
Tried germinating and first 10 germinated in just 3 days from picking
last week, so whatever they are, more chance to identify later on.
I'll take a camera next month as another much repeated mystery but
tall plant in that half acre or so, just started flowering in July.
The description of the flowers and seeds brought an umbellifer to mind,
but none of the native species have more than pink flowers. Astrantia
major is an atypical umbellifer (saniculoid rather than apioid) about
the right size with red flowers. But it's not something I'd expect to
see in a wild-flower seed mix.
But the description of the habit and foliage doesn't sound like an umbellifer. Linum grandiflorum is included in seed mixes, but your description of seed heads doesn't appear to be a match.
On 28/07/2025 13:20, N_Cook wrote:
In one of those modern large created by mass-sow, rewilding urban wild
flower meadows, flowering in June in Hampshire, I visit the town once
a month.
I never thought of taking a pic as the explainer board had reference
to only one red flower other than red field poppies, as red campion.
I assumed it was those , but later googling , not campion.
I was surprised to see honesty as one of the bulk wild species amongst
cow parsley, corn flower, teasel, thistle ,poppies etc , so perhaps a
naturalised escapee added to the mix.
The distinctive feature was the colour of the flowers being deep blood
red of the hackneyed 12 blood-red roses colour, new one to me.
End of July repeated visit, flowering over , seeds looked formed , so
picked some.
Flattened raindrop shape of apple seeds but black in colour.
On umbels of seedheads that looked like wheat awns by July , so
probably one for dried flower arrangers.
Plants only a foot high , one umbel on each straight unbranched stem
from a cluster of stems near ground level. Leaves smooth edged spears
80 x 15mm and arranged wide spaced singly alternately around the stem.
So googling as text for images got nowhere, no pics for Lens or
LeafSnap .
seasonalwildflowers.com and its text search got nowhere
and Hillier and Hilton Dried Flowers book with seedhead or red
categories got nowhere.
Tried germinating and first 10 germinated in just 3 days from picking
last week, so whatever they are, more chance to identify later on.
I'll take a camera next month as another much repeated mystery but
tall plant in that half acre or so, just started flowering in July.
The description of the flowers and seeds brought an umbellifer to mind,
but none of the native species have more than pink flowers. Astrantia
major is an atypical umbellifer (saniculoid rather than apioid) about
the right size with red flowers. But it's not something I'd expect to
see in a wild-flower seed mix.
But the description of the habit and foliage doesn't sound like an umbellifer. Linum grandiflorum is included in seed mixes, but your description of seed heads doesn't appear to be a match.
Check and see if burnet/salad burnet fits the bill.
On 30/07/2025 19:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Check and see if burnet/salad burnet fits the bill.
A blood red bloom cultivar might be right , but the "salad" leaves
wrong, and the seeds are rougher than these "apple pip" type seeds ,
black and half the size of apple ones
On 30/07/2025 20:11, N_Cook wrote:
On 30/07/2025 19:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Check and see if burnet/salad burnet fits the bill.
A blood red bloom cultivar might be right , but the "salad" leaves
wrong, and the seeds are rougher than these "apple pip" type seeds ,
black and half the size of apple ones
Looks like a few sports in the mix. Main crop is blood red flowering
June but 3 plants flowering there late July in the seed-headed of June clumps. One head is 2 shades of pink, one is white and pale purple, and
one blood red and red.
3 people agree on Dianthus/Sweet William. The pink variety could be considered uk wild flower it seems, the blood red one presumably a cultivar.
The 2.1m tall plants with blue flowers on the end of each "branch" is probably Echium Plantagineum which grows wild in the uk apparently
The 2.1m tall plants with blue flowers on the end of each "branch" is
probably Echium Plantagineum which grows wild in the uk apparently
/Echium plantgineum/ would not get to even 1 metre in the UK (nor would
/E. vulgare/).
On 02/08/2025 09:34, N_Cook wrote:
On 30/07/2025 20:11, N_Cook wrote:
On 30/07/2025 19:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Check and see if burnet/salad burnet fits the bill.
A blood red bloom cultivar might be right , but the "salad" leaves
wrong, and the seeds are rougher than these "apple pip" type seeds ,
black and half the size of apple ones
Looks like a few sports in the mix. Main crop is blood red flowering
June but 3 plants flowering there late July in the seed-headed of June
clumps. One head is 2 shades of pink, one is white and pale purple, and
one blood red and red.
3 people agree on Dianthus/Sweet William. The pink variety could be
considered uk wild flower it seems, the blood red one presumably a
cultivar.
Almost certainly, but it does make you wonder about the source of the seed!
The 2.1m tall plants with blue flowers on the end of each "branch" is
probably Echium Plantagineum which grows wild in the uk apparently
/Echium plantgineum/ would not get to even 1 metre in the UK (nor would
/E. vulgare/).
Could be a local sport that has just gained a niche.
Almost certainly, but it does make you wonder about the source of the
seed!
I wonder if the original seeding consists of seed bombs of one variety
in each bomb , rather than individual seeds randomly mixed.
On 02/08/2025 17:33, N_Cook wrote:
I wonder if the original seeding consists of seed bombs of one variety
in each bomb , rather than individual seeds randomly mixed.
I see the method for wilding/rewilding urban wild flower meadows is the
use plug planting for greater success, hence the clumping effect.
On 02/08/2025 21:26, N_Cook wrote:
On 02/08/2025 17:33, N_Cook wrote:
I wonder if the original seeding consists of seed bombs of one variety
in each bomb , rather than individual seeds randomly mixed.
I see the method for wilding/rewilding urban wild flower meadows is the
use plug planting for greater success, hence the clumping effect.
Going by the haema bit, probably Dianthus Haematacalyx
On 08/08/2025 08:58, N_Cook wrote:
On 02/08/2025 21:26, N_Cook wrote:
On 02/08/2025 17:33, N_Cook wrote:
I wonder if the original seeding consists of seed bombs of one variety >>>> in each bomb , rather than individual seeds randomly mixed.
I see the method for wilding/rewilding urban wild flower meadows is the
use plug planting for greater success, hence the clumping effect.
Going by the haema bit, probably Dianthus Haematacalyx
I doubt it; even spp ventricosus is only deepish pink - not red. See
photo at <https://www.floralpin.de/engl/alpine-plants-d---i/dianthus-carophyllaceae/dianthus-haematocalyx-ssp-ventricosus.php>.
You'll have to wait until you see the plant in flower!