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According to Arthur Figgis <afiggis@example.invalid>:
On 30/09/2025 18:09, NY wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydxjw1z25o
Record crowd fills 'world's longest railway bench'
Nice to think we've got something and the Yanks can't claim theirs is
bigger.
Presumably it would take a lot fewer Americans to fill it.
We still have the station with the most platforms (recently added 8
more just to be sure) but I see that it's recently been exceeded as
the largest by floor space by a new station in Chongqing.
Op 30-9-2025 om 22:37 schreef John Levine:
According to Arthur Figgis-a <afiggis@example.invalid>:
On 30/09/2025 18:09, NY wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydxjw1z25o
Record crowd fills 'world's longest railway bench'
Nice to think we've got something and the Yanks can't claim theirs is
bigger.
Presumably it would take a lot fewer Americans to fill it.
We still have the station with the most platforms (recently added 8
more just to be sure) but I see that it's recently been exceeded as
the largest by floor space by a new station in Chongqing.
I'm curious:
which station and how many platforms (or tracks)?
Rink
On 14/10/2025 21:18, Rink wrote:
Op 30-9-2025 om 22:37 schreef John Levine:
According to Arthur Figgis-a <afiggis@example.invalid>:
On 30/09/2025 18:09, NY wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydxjw1z25o
Record crowd fills 'world's longest railway bench'
Nice to think we've got something and the Yanks can't claim theirs is >>>>> bigger.
Presumably it would take a lot fewer Americans to fill it.
We still have the station with the most platforms (recently added 8
more just to be sure) but I see that it's recently been exceeded as
the largest by floor space by a new station in Chongqing.
I'm curious:
which station and how many platforms (or tracks)?
Rink
?Clapham Junction?
Grand Central in NYC. It has 67 tracks: 56 passenger tracks (30 on the
upper level, 26 on the lower level), of which 43 are in use for passenger >service.
According to Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com>:
Grand Central in NYC. It has 67 tracks: 56 passenger tracks (30 on the
upper level, 26 on the lower level), of which 43 are in use for passenger
service.
The new Grand Central Madison terminal underneath added four more platforms for Long Island Railroad trains. It's a matter of opinion whether it's
a separate station. It's a long way below, but the access is through
the existing station.
On 14/10/2025 21:18, Rink wrote:
Op 30-9-2025 om 22:37 schreef John Levine:
According to Arthur Figgis-a <afiggis@example.invalid>:
On 30/09/2025 18:09, NY wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydxjw1z25o
Record crowd fills 'world's longest railway bench'
Nice to think we've got something and the Yanks can't claim theirs is >>>>> bigger.
Presumably it would take a lot fewer Americans to fill it.
We still have the station with the most platforms (recently added 8
more just to be sure) but I see that it's recently been exceeded as
the largest by floor space by a new station in Chongqing.
I'm curious:
which station and how many platforms (or tracks)?
Rink
?Clapham Junction?
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
On 14/10/2025 21:18, Rink wrote:
Op 30-9-2025 om 22:37 schreef John Levine:
According to Arthur Figgis-a <afiggis@example.invalid>:
On 30/09/2025 18:09, NY wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydxjw1z25o
Record crowd fills 'world's longest railway bench'
Nice to think we've got something and the Yanks can't claim theirs is >>>>>> bigger.
Presumably it would take a lot fewer Americans to fill it.
We still have the station with the most platforms (recently added 8
more just to be sure) but I see that it's recently been exceeded as
the largest by floor space by a new station in Chongqing.
I'm curious:
which station and how many platforms (or tracks)?
Rink
?Clapham Junction?
Grand Central in NYC. It has 67 tracks: 56 passenger tracks (30 on the
upper level, 26 on the lower level), of which 43 are in use for passenger service.
In the UK, Waterloo has 24 platforms in its main station, plus an
additional four at Waterloo East and eight below on the Underground,
bringing the total number of platforms across the complex to 36.
Clapham Junction has 17 platforms (one of which is normally used only for non-stopping trains, due to very wide platform gaps).
ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
On 14/10/2025 21:18, Rink wrote:
Op 30-9-2025 om 22:37 schreef John Levine:
According to Arthur Figgis-a <afiggis@example.invalid>:
On 30/09/2025 18:09, NY wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydxjw1z25o
Record crowd fills 'world's longest railway bench'
Nice to think we've got something and the Yanks can't claim theirs is >>>>>> bigger.
Presumably it would take a lot fewer Americans to fill it.
We still have the station with the most platforms (recently added 8
more just to be sure) but I see that it's recently been exceeded as
the largest by floor space by a new station in Chongqing.
I'm curious:
which station and how many platforms (or tracks)?
Rink
?Clapham Junction?
Grand Central in NYC. It has 67 tracks: 56 passenger tracks (30 on the
upper level, 26 on the lower level), of which 43 are in use for passenger service.
In the UK, Waterloo has 24 platforms in its main station, plus an
additional four at Waterloo East and eight below on the Underground,
bringing the total number of platforms across the complex to 36.
Clapham Junction has 17 platforms (one of which is normally used only for non-stopping trains, due to very wide platform gaps).
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
It occurs to me that Kings Cross St Pancras could be regarded as a single station, as there are underground corridors connecting them, meaning you
can get from any platform to any other platform in the complex without crossing a street.
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
It occurs to me that Kings Cross St Pancras could be regarded as a single station, as there are underground corridors connecting them, meaning you can get from any platform to any other platform in the complex without crossing a street.
Using that criteria does that mean Hammersmith Met and Hammersmith District
/ Piccadilly could once have been considered the same station? The subways have been removed now AFAIK and even when in situ ISTR they ran
from pavement to pavement so maybe would not count. OTOH going back a lot further to the 1900rCOs Hammersmith Met and Hammersmith Grove road were connected by a footway through a wall but still were not the same station. Grove Road was demolished in the 1950rCOs
after decades of disuse but the footbridge at Hammersmith MET that once
lead to the footway remains You donrCOt need a footbridge connecting the platforms of a terminus station but it has hung on for use by staff who currently use it to reach an office.
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
It occurs to me that Kings Cross St Pancras could be regarded as a single
station, as there are underground corridors connecting them, meaning you
can get from any platform to any other platform in the complex without
crossing a street.
Using that criteria does that mean Hammersmith Met and Hammersmith District
/ Piccadilly could once have been considered the same station? The >subways have been removed now AFAIK and even when in situ ISTR they ran
from pavement to pavement so maybe would not count.
OTOH going back a lot
further to the 1900rCOs Hammersmith Met and Hammersmith Grove road were >connected by a footway through a wall but still were not the same station.
Grove Road was demolished in the 1950rCOs--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
after decades of disuse but the footbridge at Hammersmith MET that once
lead to the footway remains You donrCOt need a footbridge connecting the >platforms of a terminus station but it has hung on for use by staff who >currently use it to reach an office.
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
It occurs to me that Kings Cross St Pancras could be regarded as a single
station, as there are underground corridors connecting them, meaning you
can get from any platform to any other platform in the complex without
crossing a street.
Using that criteria does that mean Hammersmith Met and Hammersmith District
/ Piccadilly could once have been considered the same station? The subways have been removed now AFAIK and even when in situ ISTR they ran
from pavement to pavement so maybe would not count.
On 15/10/2025 15:35, Marland wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
It occurs to me that Kings Cross St Pancras could be regarded as a single >>> station, as there are underground corridors connecting them, meaning you >>> can get from any platform to any other platform in the complex without
crossing a street.
Using that criteria does that mean Hammersmith Met and Hammersmith District >> / Piccadilly could once have been considered the same station? The
subways have been removed now AFAIK and even when in situ ISTR they ran
from pavement to pavement so maybe would not count.
I used to use that subway quite a lot when I first joined aunty. Didn't
know it had been closed, I haven't stopped at Hammersmith for around 30 >years.
On 15 Oct 2025 14:35:58 GMT, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
It occurs to me that Kings Cross St Pancras could be regarded as a single >>> station, as there are underground corridors connecting them, meaning you >>> can get from any platform to any other platform in the complex without
crossing a street.
Using that criteria does that mean Hammersmith Met and Hammersmith District >> / Piccadilly could once have been considered the same station? The
subways have been removed now AFAIK and even when in situ ISTR they ran >>from pavement to pavement so maybe would not count.
I'd say they were separate stations even then, as it was a just a public subway under the road, from public pavement to
pavement, not accessible from inside either station. I'd say that if you have to connect via a public road or pavement,
they're separate stations. Only if the route between platforms is entirely on railway property should it count as a
single station.
That does lead to some tricky cases where Tube entrances are located (or have even been re-located) just outside railway
stations, partly so they can be opened and closed independently.
One oddity is Southwark Jubilee station, which is directly connected to Waterloo East, which is in turn directly
connected to Waterloo, which has its own Jubilee station underneath, accessible from the concourse. So it means you can
walk between the two Jubilee stations without ever stepping on to a road or pavement. Does that make them one station?
On 15/10/2025 15:52, Recliner wrote:
On 15 Oct 2025 14:35:58 GMT, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
It occurs to me that Kings Cross St Pancras could be regarded as a single >>>> station, as there are underground corridors connecting them, meaning you >>>> can get from any platform to any other platform in the complex without >>>> crossing a street.
Using that criteria does that mean Hammersmith Met and Hammersmith District >>> / Piccadilly could once have been considered the same station? The
subways have been removed now AFAIK and even when in situ ISTR they ran
from pavement to pavement so maybe would not count.
I'd say they were separate stations even then, as it was a just a public
subway under the road, from public pavement to
pavement, not accessible from inside either station. I'd say that if
you have to connect via a public road or pavement,
they're separate stations. Only if the route between platforms is
entirely on railway property should it count as a
single station.
That does lead to some tricky cases where Tube entrances are located (or
have even been re-located) just outside railway
stations, partly so they can be opened and closed independently.
One oddity is Southwark Jubilee station, which is directly connected to
Waterloo East, which is in turn directly
connected to Waterloo, which has its own Jubilee station underneath,
accessible from the concourse. So it means you can
walk between the two Jubilee stations without ever stepping on to a road
or pavement. Does that make them one station?
Similarly, Liverpool Street and Moorgate?
There are other examples,
such as Barbican and Farringdon, though most of them don't have a high platform total.
On 15 Oct 2025 14:35:58 GMT, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
It occurs to me that Kings Cross St Pancras could be regarded as a single >>> station, as there are underground corridors connecting them, meaning you >>> can get from any platform to any other platform in the complex without
crossing a street.
Using that criteria does that mean Hammersmith Met and Hammersmith District >> / Piccadilly could once have been considered the same station? The
subways have been removed now AFAIK and even when in situ ISTR they ran
from pavement to pavement so maybe would not count.
I'd say they were separate stations even then, as it was a just a public subway under the road, from public pavement to
pavement, not accessible from inside either station. I'd say that if you have to connect via a public road or pavement,
they're separate stations. Only if the route between platforms is
entirely on railway property should it count as a
single station.
That does lead to some tricky cases where Tube entrances are located (or
have even been re-located) just outside railway
stations, partly so they can be opened and closed independently.
One oddity is Southwark Jubilee station, which is directly connected to Waterloo East, which is in turn directly
connected to Waterloo, which has its own Jubilee station underneath, accessible from the concourse. So it means you can
walk between the two Jubilee stations without ever stepping on to a road
or pavement. Does that make them one station?
OTOH going back a lot
further to the 1900rCOs Hammersmith Met and Hammersmith Grove road were
connected by a footway through a wall but still were not the same station.
Maybe not legally, but if you could pass from one to the other without stepping on to a public pavement or road, they
were effectively one station, albeit with different owners.
I suppose there must have been many stations that owned by the companies that constructed them
grew together to become effectively one station in the eyes of the
traveller , many would have done so in the era before the large pre
grouping got established as they took over smaller local companies, the grouping saw more where the demarcation was forgotten.
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15 Oct 2025 14:35:58 GMT, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
It occurs to me that Kings Cross St Pancras could be regarded as a single >>>> station, as there are underground corridors connecting them, meaning you >>>> can get from any platform to any other platform in the complex without >>>> crossing a street.
Using that criteria does that mean Hammersmith Met and Hammersmith District >>> / Piccadilly could once have been considered the same station? The
subways have been removed now AFAIK and even when in situ ISTR they ran
from pavement to pavement so maybe would not count.
I'd say they were separate stations even then, as it was a just a public
subway under the road, from public pavement to
pavement, not accessible from inside either station. I'd say that if you
have to connect via a public road or pavement,
they're separate stations. Only if the route between platforms is
entirely on railway property should it count as a
single station.
That does lead to some tricky cases where Tube entrances are located (or
have even been re-located) just outside railway
stations, partly so they can be opened and closed independently.
One oddity is Southwark Jubilee station, which is directly connected to
Waterloo East, which is in turn directly
connected to Waterloo, which has its own Jubilee station underneath,
accessible from the concourse. So it means you can
walk between the two Jubilee stations without ever stepping on to a road
or pavement. Does that make them one station?
OTOH going back a lotMaybe not legally, but if you could pass from one to the other without
further to the 1900rCOs Hammersmith Met and Hammersmith Grove road were
connected by a footway through a wall but still were not the same station. >>
stepping on to a public pavement or road, they
were effectively one station, albeit with different owners.
I suppose there must have been many stations that owned by the companies that constructed them
grew together to become effectively one station in the eyes of the
traveller , many would have done so in the era before the large pre
grouping got established as they took over smaller local companies, the grouping saw more where the demarcation was forgotten.
Victoria is a well know example having been two separately owned stations before the Southern took over.
On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 16:10:53 +0100
Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> gabbled:
On 15/10/2025 15:35, Marland wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
It occurs to me that Kings Cross St Pancras could be regarded as a
single
station, as there are underground corridors connecting them, meaning
you
can get from any platform to any other platform in the complex without >>>> crossing a street.
Using that criteria does that mean Hammersmith Met and Hammersmith
District
/ Piccadilly could once have been considered the same station?-a-a-a-a The >>> subways have been removed now AFAIK and even when in situ ISTR they ran
from pavement to pavement so maybe would not count.
I used to use that subway quite a lot when I first joined aunty.
Didn't know it had been closed, I haven't stopped at Hammersmith for
around 30 years.
The subways around Elephant and Castle were filled in about 5 years ago
just so the council could tart up the roundabout.
On 15/10/2025 15:52, Recliner wrote:
On 15 Oct 2025 14:35:58 GMT, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
It occurs to me that Kings Cross St Pancras could be regarded as a single >>>> station, as there are underground corridors connecting them, meaning you >>>> can get from any platform to any other platform in the complex without >>>> crossing a street.
Using that criteria does that mean Hammersmith Met and Hammersmith District >>> / Piccadilly could once have been considered the same station? The
subways have been removed now AFAIK and even when in situ ISTR they ran
from pavement to pavement so maybe would not count.
I'd say they were separate stations even then, as it was a just a public
subway under the road, from public pavement to
pavement, not accessible from inside either station. I'd say that if
you have to connect via a public road or pavement,
they're separate stations. Only if the route between platforms is
entirely on railway property should it count as a
single station.
That does lead to some tricky cases where Tube entrances are located (or
have even been re-located) just outside railway
stations, partly so they can be opened and closed independently.
One oddity is Southwark Jubilee station, which is directly connected to
Waterloo East, which is in turn directly
connected to Waterloo, which has its own Jubilee station underneath,
accessible from the concourse. So it means you can
walk between the two Jubilee stations without ever stepping on to a road
or pavement. Does that make them one station?
Similarly, Liverpool Street and Moorgate? There are other examples,
such as Barbican and Farringdon, though most of them don't have a high platform total.
On 15 Oct 2025 14:35:58 GMT, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
It occurs to me that Kings Cross St Pancras could be regarded as a single >>> station, as there are underground corridors connecting them, meaning you >>> can get from any platform to any other platform in the complex without
crossing a street.
Using that criteria does that mean Hammersmith Met and Hammersmith District >> / Piccadilly could once have been considered the same station? The
subways have been removed now AFAIK and even when in situ ISTR they ran
from pavement to pavement so maybe would not count.
I'd say they were separate stations even then, as it was a just a public subway under the road, from public pavement to
pavement, not accessible from inside either station. I'd say that if you have to connect via a public road or pavement,
they're separate stations. Only if the route between platforms is
entirely on railway property should it count as a
single station.
That does lead to some tricky cases where Tube entrances are located (or
have even been re-located) just outside railway
stations, partly so they can be opened and closed independently.
One oddity is Southwark Jubilee station, which is directly connected to Waterloo East, which is in turn directly
connected to Waterloo, which has its own Jubilee station underneath, accessible from the concourse. So it means you can
walk between the two Jubilee stations without ever stepping on to a road
or pavement. Does that make them one station?
OTOH going back a lot
further to the 1900rCOs Hammersmith Met and Hammersmith Grove road were
connected by a footway through a wall but still were not the same station.
Maybe not legally, but if you could pass from one to the other without stepping on to a public pavement or road, they
were effectively one station, albeit with different owners.
Grove Road was demolished in the 1950rCOs
after decades of disuse but the footbridge at Hammersmith MET that once
lead to the footway remains You donrCOt need a footbridge connecting the
platforms of a terminus station but it has hung on for use by staff who
currently use it to reach an office.