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Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:

Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

Clive Page <usenet@page2.eu> wrote:

On 26/09/2025 05:49, Tweed wrote:

John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

According to Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com>:

If itrCOs only implemented at some crossings they wonrCOt be able to reconcile
entry and exits, especially if you enter and exit by different routes. >>>>>>

Why not? If you cross at a place with EES it'll be recorded in their computer,
at one without it'll be recorded in your passport. Whenever I've entered or
left the EU they always scan my passport before stamping it so whatever the
computer knows about me presumably shows up on the agent's screen. >>>>>>

Possibly not. EES isnrCOt one computer system but a federation of national
systems. So until it is all up and working everywhere there remains the >>>>> possibility of unresolved entry/exits, especially if you enter by country A
and exit by B. At the very basic level passport scanning is just to prove >>>>> that the embedded photo in the chip matches the printed photo. Likely as >>>>> not, national watch list data bases are checked and possibly international
ones.

Does anyone know what is being done about the anomaly of the Irish land >>>> border with the UK? At all the EU airports that I've used in the last >>>> year or two if you are taking a flights to another EU countries you
don't go through passport control, you only do that if you are flying to >>>> the UK. So if you fly from, say Paris to Dublin, then cross the boarder >>>> to Northern Ireland you are likely to get out of the EU without any
record of your exit.

There will definitely be records in both directions, as passports must be >>> scanned when flying from Paris to Dublin, and vice versa.

And vice-versa if you enter that way. It won't
affect all that many people, I suppose, but does seem to be a loophole >>>> that no doubt could be exploited.

ThererCOs no loophole.

Ireland, like the UK, is outside Schengen, so passports must be shown and >>> scanned when travelling between it and any Schengen country. Note that
Schengen and the EU are not synonymous.

The Irish passport is perhaps the magic passport in Europe, since it
confers rights to both the Schengen area and the Common Travel Area.

We were on holiday last year with friends, some of whom were from NI and
had both UK and EI passports. We didnrCOt cross any borders in their company but the others who did were bemused to see them scoot through the EU lanes.

Of course, we too had that right till a few years ago, till we collectively committed an idiotic act of self-harm.
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According to Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid>:

Nothing to do with EU specifically. ItrCOs Schengen or Non Schengen. Ireland,
like the UK, is non Schengen.

And Cyprus isn't (yet).

Well, most of it isn't.
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From Newsgroup: uk.railway


John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> posted:

According to Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid>:

Nothing to do with EU specifically. ItrCOs Schengen or Non Schengen. Ireland,
like the UK, is non Schengen.

And Cyprus isn't (yet).

Well, most of it isn't.

Nor is the other part (only by their laws in full control
of the island).

Regards, ULF
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