• Preserved Railways Worth Visiting

    From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.railway on Wed Aug 27 07:54:31 2025
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    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to visiting more preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles


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  • From Marland@gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk to uk.railway on Wed Aug 27 08:51:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles




    A lot would depend on how far you are prepared to travel ,or if you were
    going to spend a period away for say a week and do more than one in a given area.
    Eg ,Central Southern England would give you Swanage with interesting Countryside ,Midhants a good collection of stock, and on the I.O.W the
    Steam Railway there which is much closer to a pregrouping experience with
    small locos and often superbly restored 4 (possibly some 6 ) wheel stock.
    If you end up in the vicinity of Kent then not a preserved line as such but everyone if they have an interest in steam should travel on the Romney
    Hythe and Dymchurch at least once , the unique flatness of the open land
    has been eroded by further building developments in recent times but the Dungeness end is still relatively unscathed. Lots of residences built from
    old railway coaches still in place.

    GH


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  • From Bevan Price@bevanprice666@gmail.com to uk.railway on Wed Aug 27 18:41:08 2025
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    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles


    In their own way, most heritage lines have points of interest. If you
    prefer steam, you may need to wait until there has been a lot of rain.

    Gala / special event days can be busy, but often have the best choice of motive power. Visit here for details:

    https://www.heritage-railways.com/events.php?bf=2

    Longish, scenic lines include Severn Valley Railway, North Yorkshire
    Moors Railway, West Somerset Railway.

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  • From Scott@newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk to uk.railway on Wed Aug 27 18:45:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 07:54:31 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
    <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

    Now IAve got a bit more free time I thought IAd get around to visiting more >preserved railways. IAm looking for the teamAs advice on those worth >visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles

    I recently visited the Wensleydale Railway where I had the privilege
    of travelling on a Pacer, arguably the worst train ever made. Given we
    never had them in Scotland, I found this to be of interest.
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  • From boltar@boltar@battlestar-galactica.com to uk.railway on Wed Aug 27 18:02:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 18:45:43 +0100
    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 07:54:31 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
    <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

    Now IAve got a bit more free time I thought IAd get around to visiting more >>preserved railways. IAm looking for the teamAs advice on those worth >>visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles

    I recently visited the Wensleydale Railway where I had the privilege
    of travelling on a Pacer, arguably the worst train ever made. Given we
    never had them in Scotland, I found this to be of interest.

    Worst train ever made - apart from all the ones that are even worse.
    Most tube stock pre the 90s make being on a pacer feel like you're riding in
    a rolls royce.

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  • From Theo@theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk to uk.railway on Wed Aug 27 21:44:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles

    For an alternative universe, the Downpatrick and County Down railway might
    be worth a shot. I've not been, but I think the countryside is good and
    their rolling stock is rather different from the average GB heritage
    railway. Only a 3 mile line though.

    Theo
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  • From Ulf Kutzner@user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid to uk.railway on Thu Aug 28 10:16:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway


    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> posted:


    I recently visited the Wensleydale Railway where I had the privilege
    of travelling on a Pacer, arguably the worst train ever made. Given we
    never had them in Scotland

    You might well think so but https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/pacers-in-scotland.242376/
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  • From Scott@newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk to uk.railway on Thu Aug 28 11:57:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:16:45 GMT, Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> posted:


    I recently visited the Wensleydale Railway where I had the privilege
    of travelling on a Pacer, arguably the worst train ever made. Given we
    never had them in Scotland

    You might well think so but >https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/pacers-in-scotland.242376/

    Good knowledge!
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  • From Recliner@recliner.usenet@gmail.com to uk.railway on Thu Aug 28 13:01:44 2025
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    On 27 Aug 2025 21:44:31 +0100 (BST), Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth
    visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles

    For an alternative universe, the Downpatrick and County Down railway might
    be worth a shot. I've not been, but I think the countryside is good and >their rolling stock is rather different from the average GB heritage
    railway. Only a 3 mile line though.

    The small museum is interesting, but the ride is very short, and not particularly interesting. I believe it's the only
    Irish broad gauge preserved railway, but it seems short of working stock, visitors and funds.

    Here's an example of the sort of little trains it runs: https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/54749990091/

    I think this little German industrial loco is the line's only operational steam loco.
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  • From Peter Johnson@peter@parksidewood.nospam to uk.railway on Thu Aug 28 16:46:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 18:41:08 +0100, Bevan Price
    <bevanprice666@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IAve got a bit more free time I thought IAd get around to visiting more >> preserved railways. IAm looking for the teamAs advice on those worth
    visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles


    In their own way, most heritage lines have points of interest. If you
    prefer steam, you may need to wait until there has been a lot of rain.

    Gala / special event days can be busy, but often have the best choice of >motive power. Visit here for details:

    https://www.heritage-railways.com/events.php?bf=2

    Longish, scenic lines include Severn Valley Railway, North Yorkshire
    Moors Railway, West Somerset Railway.

    Not to mention the Ffestiniog/Welsh Highland, Vale of Rheidol,
    Ravenglass & Eskdale, Romney, Hythe & Dymchurch
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  • From Graeme Wall@rail@greywall.demon.co.uk to uk.railway on Thu Aug 28 17:07:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 28/08/2025 16:46, Peter Johnson wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 18:41:08 +0100, Bevan Price
    <bevanprice666@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth >>> visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles


    In their own way, most heritage lines have points of interest. If you
    prefer steam, you may need to wait until there has been a lot of rain.

    Gala / special event days can be busy, but often have the best choice of
    motive power. Visit here for details:

    https://www.heritage-railways.com/events.php?bf=2

    Longish, scenic lines include Severn Valley Railway, North Yorkshire
    Moors Railway, West Somerset Railway.

    Not to mention the Ffestiniog/Welsh Highland, Vale of Rheidol,
    Ravenglass & Eskdale, Romney, Hythe & Dymchurch

    Talyllyn
    --
    Graeme Wall
    This account not read.


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  • From Alan Jones@ajnews@exospan.com to uk.railway on Thu Aug 28 18:37:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 28/08/2025 17:07, Graeme Wall wrote:
    On 28/08/2025 16:46, Peter Johnson wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 18:41:08 +0100, Bevan Price
    <bevanprice666@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth >>>> visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles


    In their own way, most heritage lines have points of interest. If you
    prefer steam, you may need to wait until there has been a lot of rain.

    Gala / special event days can be busy, but often have the best choice of >>> motive power. Visit here for details:

    https://www.heritage-railways.com/events.php?bf=2

    Longish, scenic lines include Severn Valley Railway, North Yorkshire
    Moors Railway, West Somerset Railway.

    Not to mention the Ffestiniog/Welsh Highland, Vale of Rheidol,
    Ravenglass & Eskdale, Romney, Hythe & Dymchurch

    Talyllyn

    The Talyllyn "quarrymans" cream tea is the best I have had, and can be waiting for you when you arrive at Abergynolwyn:
    https://www.talyllyn.co.uk/plan/food/addons/

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  • From Peter Johnson@peter@parksidewood.nospam to uk.railway on Fri Aug 29 16:58:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 17:07:15 +0100, Graeme Wall
    <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

    On 28/08/2025 16:46, Peter Johnson wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 18:41:08 +0100, Bevan Price
    <bevanprice666@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IAve got a bit more free time I thought IAd get around to visiting more
    preserved railways. IAm looking for the teamAs advice on those worth
    visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles


    In their own way, most heritage lines have points of interest. If you
    prefer steam, you may need to wait until there has been a lot of rain.

    Gala / special event days can be busy, but often have the best choice of >>> motive power. Visit here for details:

    https://www.heritage-railways.com/events.php?bf=2

    Longish, scenic lines include Severn Valley Railway, North Yorkshire
    Moors Railway, West Somerset Railway.

    Not to mention the Ffestiniog/Welsh Highland, Vale of Rheidol,
    Ravenglass & Eskdale, Romney, Hythe & Dymchurch

    Talyllyn

    Not very long, is it, the TR?
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  • From Marland@gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk to uk.railway on Fri Aug 29 20:12:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 17:07:15 +0100, Graeme Wall
    <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

    On 28/08/2025 16:46, Peter Johnson wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 18:41:08 +0100, Bevan Price
    <bevanprice666@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now I-Ave got a bit more free time I thought I-Ad get around to visiting more
    preserved railways. I-Am looking for the team-As advice on those worth >>>>> visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles


    In their own way, most heritage lines have points of interest. If you
    prefer steam, you may need to wait until there has been a lot of rain. >>>>
    Gala / special event days can be busy, but often have the best choice of >>>> motive power. Visit here for details:

    https://www.heritage-railways.com/events.php?bf=2

    Longish, scenic lines include Severn Valley Railway, North Yorkshire
    Moors Railway, West Somerset Railway.

    Not to mention the Ffestiniog/Welsh Highland, Vale of Rheidol,
    Ravenglass & Eskdale, Romney, Hythe & Dymchurch

    Talyllyn

    Not very long, is it, the TR?


    About 7 miles so not as long as many but more than the couple of miles mentioned by the OP.
    And it has a two terminal stations and a couple in between so you can do a journey.
    ICBW but am assuming the OP by stipulating more than a couple of miles is
    to filter out those
    valiant schemes where ambition has not been followed up by actuality so the preserved railway extends for a short distance from a single station for a
    1/2 mile or so either side to where the funds ran out and the only way to
    give a ride is to trundle back and forth behind a small loco in a short
    train.
    Those people who give their time to such schemes are no doubt dedicated but
    as they age one wonders how they will recruit new members to replace them.

    GH
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  • From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.railway on Fri Aug 29 20:20:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
    Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 17:07:15 +0100, Graeme Wall
    <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

    On 28/08/2025 16:46, Peter Johnson wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 18:41:08 +0100, Bevan Price
    <bevanprice666@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now I-Ave got a bit more free time I thought I-Ad get around to visiting more
    preserved railways. I-Am looking for the team-As advice on those worth >>>>>> visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles


    In their own way, most heritage lines have points of interest. If you >>>>> prefer steam, you may need to wait until there has been a lot of rain. >>>>>
    Gala / special event days can be busy, but often have the best choice of >>>>> motive power. Visit here for details:

    https://www.heritage-railways.com/events.php?bf=2

    Longish, scenic lines include Severn Valley Railway, North Yorkshire >>>>> Moors Railway, West Somerset Railway.

    Not to mention the Ffestiniog/Welsh Highland, Vale of Rheidol,
    Ravenglass & Eskdale, Romney, Hythe & Dymchurch

    Talyllyn

    Not very long, is it, the TR?


    About 7 miles so not as long as many but more than the couple of miles mentioned by the OP.
    And it has a two terminal stations and a couple in between so you can do a journey.
    ICBW but am assuming the OP by stipulating more than a couple of miles is
    to filter out those
    valiant schemes where ambition has not been followed up by actuality so the preserved railway extends for a short distance from a single station for a 1/2 mile or so either side to where the funds ran out and the only way to give a ride is to trundle back and forth behind a small loco in a short train.
    Those people who give their time to such schemes are no doubt dedicated but as they age one wonders how they will recruit new members to replace them.

    GH


    OP here - got the filter idea correct :)

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  • From Graeme Wall@rail@greywall.demon.co.uk to uk.railway on Fri Aug 29 21:59:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 29/08/2025 16:58, Peter Johnson wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 17:07:15 +0100, Graeme Wall
    <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

    On 28/08/2025 16:46, Peter Johnson wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 18:41:08 +0100, Bevan Price
    <bevanprice666@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth >>>>> visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles


    In their own way, most heritage lines have points of interest. If you
    prefer steam, you may need to wait until there has been a lot of rain. >>>>
    Gala / special event days can be busy, but often have the best choice of >>>> motive power. Visit here for details:

    https://www.heritage-railways.com/events.php?bf=2

    Longish, scenic lines include Severn Valley Railway, North Yorkshire
    Moors Railway, West Somerset Railway.

    Not to mention the Ffestiniog/Welsh Highland, Vale of Rheidol,
    Ravenglass & Eskdale, Romney, Hythe & Dymchurch

    Talyllyn

    Not very long, is it, the TR?

    About 12 km
    --
    Graeme Wall
    This account not read.


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  • From Recliner@recliner.usenet@gmail.com to uk.railway on Fri Aug 29 21:50:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles


    You didnrCOt specify that they had to be in the UK.

    If yourCOre prepared to travel, Germany has a number of preserved narrow
    gauge railways which run steam on at least some trains. Some are 100%
    steam. They are often in stunning mountainous areas, and have steam locos unlike any of ours, such as 2-10-2 tanks. Some have cabriolet wagons, which
    are the most popular in good weather.

    Saxony alone has several survivors, all accessible by rail from Dresden:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrow-gauge_railways_in_Saxony

    One very scenic, all-steam example is:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichtelberg_railway

    A sight you couldnrCOt see in the UK:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichtelberg_railway#/media/File:Dampflokomotive99785imBahnhofCranzahl.jpg
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  • From John Levine@johnl@taugh.com to uk.railway on Fri Aug 29 22:26:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    According to Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com>:
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth
    visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles


    You didnrCOt specify that they had to be in the UK.

    Oh, in that case, there's all these excursions from Steamtown,
    run by the US National Park Service. Some a 30 minute jaunt
    to the yard and back, some all day foliage tours.

    https://www.nps.gov/stea/planyourvisit/trainrides.htm

    And of course the White Pass and Yukon, 36" narrow gauge with
    a 67 mile route from Skagway Alaska (US) into British Columbia and Yukon (Canada).
    Better hurry up, last trip of the season on 1 September.

    https://wpyr.com/excursions/product/bennett-scenic-journey/
    --
    Regards,
    John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
    Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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  • From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.railway on Sat Aug 30 06:29:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth
    visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles


    You didnrCOt specify that they had to be in the UK.

    If yourCOre prepared to travel, Germany has a number of preserved narrow gauge railways which run steam on at least some trains. Some are 100%
    steam. They are often in stunning mountainous areas, and have steam locos unlike any of ours, such as 2-10-2 tanks. Some have cabriolet wagons, which are the most popular in good weather.

    Saxony alone has several survivors, all accessible by rail from Dresden:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrow-gauge_railways_in_Saxony

    One very scenic, all-steam example is:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichtelberg_railway

    A sight you couldnrCOt see in the UK:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichtelberg_railway#/media/File:Dampflokomotive99785imBahnhofCranzahl.jpg


    Thank you for reminding me of the German ones. ItrCOs always been in the back of my mind to visit.

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  • From Recliner@recliner.usenet@gmail.com to uk.railway on Sat Aug 30 12:02:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth >>> visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles


    You didnrCOt specify that they had to be in the UK.

    If yourCOre prepared to travel, Germany has a number of preserved narrow
    gauge railways which run steam on at least some trains. Some are 100%
    steam. They are often in stunning mountainous areas, and have steam locos
    unlike any of ours, such as 2-10-2 tanks. Some have cabriolet wagons, which >> are the most popular in good weather.

    Saxony alone has several survivors, all accessible by rail from Dresden:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrow-gauge_railways_in_Saxony

    One very scenic, all-steam example is:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichtelberg_railway

    A sight you couldnrCOt see in the UK:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichtelberg_railway#/media/File:Dampflokomotive99785imBahnhofCranzahl.jpg


    Thank you for reminding me of the German ones. ItrCOs always been in the back of my mind to visit.



    The Harz is the obvious one, and thatrCOs a whole network, not just one line. Unfortunately, it now runs less steam than before, and I think all the rCyinterestingrCO steam locos are currently out of service, but even the heritage tram-trains are interesting. IrCOve done the whole network,
    including the non-passenger loop, steam-hauled, but thatrCOs probably no
    longer possible.

    But there are a number of interesting mostly or entirely steam-operated
    narrow gauge heritage lines in the former DDR, usually in scenic locations. Another notable one is the Molli, famous for its street running:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molli_railway

    Another sight you wonrCOt see in the UK:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molli_railway#/media/File:Bad_Doberan_Molli_(02)_2006-09-24.JPG

    While I was there, an Audi emerged from a side street, and almost turned
    right into the loco on the Main Street.
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  • From Alan Lee@alan@darkroom.plus.com to uk.railway on Sat Aug 30 19:40:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to
    visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles

    No one has mentioned the Great Central. The scenery isnt amazing, but
    the infrastructure there is an added bonus. They run a good timetable on Saturdays and Sundays so you dont have to get on/off at the termini, you
    can hop off an intermediate station to get a train heading the other way
    if you plan it correctly. Take a hour or so to visit the shed, which is
    a bit more restricted now, so not always possible to have a good look
    around, get into one of the signalboxes, and view the shops at
    Loughborough station. Cafes at each station are fine. We had dinner on
    one of the trains which was basic but good. Eat after 1pm, as the crowds
    have headed off then. They do a number of dining trains too, but the
    cost is a lot more than a day rover ticket and dinner on the service
    train, though, of course, the dining train dinner is of a better quality
    with staff attending to all of your requirements.
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  • From Recliner@recliner.usenet@gmail.com to uk.railway on Sat Aug 30 21:17:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Alan Lee <alan@darkroom.plus.com> wrote:
    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to
    visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth
    visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles

    No one has mentioned the Great Central. The scenery isnt amazing, but
    the infrastructure there is an added bonus. They run a good timetable on Saturdays and Sundays so you dont have to get on/off at the termini, you
    can hop off an intermediate station to get a train heading the other way
    if you plan it correctly. Take a hour or so to visit the shed, which is
    a bit more restricted now, so not always possible to have a good look around, get into one of the signalboxes, and view the shops at
    Loughborough station. Cafes at each station are fine. We had dinner on
    one of the trains which was basic but good. Eat after 1pm, as the crowds have headed off then. They do a number of dining trains too, but the
    cost is a lot more than a day rover ticket and dinner on the service
    train, though, of course, the dining train dinner is of a better quality with staff attending to all of your requirements.


    I assumed that Tweed had often visited both GCRs, as theyrCOre his local preserved lines. What might be fun to do would be to combine a run of the
    full, currently open length of the GCR (N) with the GCR, including its Mountsorrel branch.

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  • From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.railway on Sun Aug 31 06:38:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan Lee <alan@darkroom.plus.com> wrote:
    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to
    visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth >>> visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles

    No one has mentioned the Great Central. The scenery isnt amazing, but
    the infrastructure there is an added bonus. They run a good timetable on
    Saturdays and Sundays so you dont have to get on/off at the termini, you
    can hop off an intermediate station to get a train heading the other way
    if you plan it correctly. Take a hour or so to visit the shed, which is
    a bit more restricted now, so not always possible to have a good look
    around, get into one of the signalboxes, and view the shops at
    Loughborough station. Cafes at each station are fine. We had dinner on
    one of the trains which was basic but good. Eat after 1pm, as the crowds
    have headed off then. They do a number of dining trains too, but the
    cost is a lot more than a day rover ticket and dinner on the service
    train, though, of course, the dining train dinner is of a better quality
    with staff attending to all of your requirements.


    I assumed that Tweed had often visited both GCRs, as theyrCOre his local preserved lines. What might be fun to do would be to combine a run of the full, currently open length of the GCR (N) with the GCR, including its Mountsorrel branch.



    IrCOm waiting for them to link up the lines. I hope I manage to live that longrCa.
    IrCOve driven both steam and diesel locomotives on the GCR. They do a good
    job but the countryside lets them down, which is something they canrCOt
    really do much about.

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  • From Ulf Kutzner@user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid to uk.railway on Sun Aug 31 06:53:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway


    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> posted:


    But there are a number of interesting mostly or entirely steam-operated narrow gauge heritage lines in the former DDR, usually in scenic locations. Another notable one is the Molli, famous for its street running:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molli_railway

    Another sight you wonrCOt see in the UK:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molli_railway#/media/File:Bad_Doberan_Molli_(02)_2006-09-24.JPG

    Not sure about vintage trains for the current week, and
    South of Germany:

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:On-street_running_in_Poschiavo_municipality#/media/File:Le_Prese_IMG_3029.jpg
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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.railway on Sun Aug 31 07:53:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 27/08/2025 18:41, Bevan Price wrote:
    North Yorkshire Moors Railway




    North Yorkshire Moors Railway confirmed all steam services would remain
    paused "for the time being" to avoid putting additional pressure on
    emergency services.
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  • From Recliner@recliner.usenet@gmail.com to uk.railway on Sun Aug 31 09:32:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan Lee <alan@darkroom.plus.com> wrote:
    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to
    visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth >>>> visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles

    No one has mentioned the Great Central. The scenery isnt amazing, but
    the infrastructure there is an added bonus. They run a good timetable on >>> Saturdays and Sundays so you dont have to get on/off at the termini, you >>> can hop off an intermediate station to get a train heading the other way >>> if you plan it correctly. Take a hour or so to visit the shed, which is >>> a bit more restricted now, so not always possible to have a good look
    around, get into one of the signalboxes, and view the shops at
    Loughborough station. Cafes at each station are fine. We had dinner on
    one of the trains which was basic but good. Eat after 1pm, as the crowds >>> have headed off then. They do a number of dining trains too, but the
    cost is a lot more than a day rover ticket and dinner on the service
    train, though, of course, the dining train dinner is of a better quality >>> with staff attending to all of your requirements.


    I assumed that Tweed had often visited both GCRs, as theyrCOre his local
    preserved lines. What might be fun to do would be to combine a run of the
    full, currently open length of the GCR (N) with the GCR, including its
    Mountsorrel branch.



    IrCOm waiting for them to link up the lines. I hope I manage to live that longrCa.
    IrCOve driven both steam and diesel locomotives on the GCR. They do a good job but the countryside lets them down, which is something they canrCOt really do much about.

    Unfortunately, the longer GCR (N) has even less interesting countryside.
    ItrCOs a pity they canrCOt extend it to the *north*, perhaps to connect to the tram.

    In general, I think former branch lines make for more scenic preserved
    railways than straight, fast mainlines. They are often more curvy, and
    possibly run through hilly areas.

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  • From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.railway on Sun Aug 31 10:39:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan Lee <alan@darkroom.plus.com> wrote:
    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to
    visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth >>>>> visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles

    No one has mentioned the Great Central. The scenery isnt amazing, but >>>> the infrastructure there is an added bonus. They run a good timetable on >>>> Saturdays and Sundays so you dont have to get on/off at the termini, you >>>> can hop off an intermediate station to get a train heading the other way >>>> if you plan it correctly. Take a hour or so to visit the shed, which is >>>> a bit more restricted now, so not always possible to have a good look >>>> around, get into one of the signalboxes, and view the shops at
    Loughborough station. Cafes at each station are fine. We had dinner on >>>> one of the trains which was basic but good. Eat after 1pm, as the crowds >>>> have headed off then. They do a number of dining trains too, but the
    cost is a lot more than a day rover ticket and dinner on the service
    train, though, of course, the dining train dinner is of a better quality >>>> with staff attending to all of your requirements.


    I assumed that Tweed had often visited both GCRs, as theyrCOre his local >>> preserved lines. What might be fun to do would be to combine a run of the >>> full, currently open length of the GCR (N) with the GCR, including its
    Mountsorrel branch.



    IrCOm waiting for them to link up the lines. I hope I manage to live that
    longrCa.
    IrCOve driven both steam and diesel locomotives on the GCR. They do a good >> job but the countryside lets them down, which is something they canrCOt
    really do much about.

    Unfortunately, the longer GCR (N) has even less interesting countryside. ItrCOs a pity they canrCOt extend it to the *north*, perhaps to connect to the
    tram.

    In general, I think former branch lines make for more scenic preserved railways than straight, fast mainlines. They are often more curvy, and possibly run through hilly areas.


    I hope it works out for them. But I do wonder if the general public want
    really long (in terms of journey time) trips on preserved railways.

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  • From Recliner@recliner.usenet@gmail.com to uk.railway on Sun Aug 31 11:02:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan Lee <alan@darkroom.plus.com> wrote:
    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to
    visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth >>>>>> visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles

    No one has mentioned the Great Central. The scenery isnt amazing, but >>>>> the infrastructure there is an added bonus. They run a good timetable on >>>>> Saturdays and Sundays so you dont have to get on/off at the termini, you >>>>> can hop off an intermediate station to get a train heading the other way >>>>> if you plan it correctly. Take a hour or so to visit the shed, which is >>>>> a bit more restricted now, so not always possible to have a good look >>>>> around, get into one of the signalboxes, and view the shops at
    Loughborough station. Cafes at each station are fine. We had dinner on >>>>> one of the trains which was basic but good. Eat after 1pm, as the crowds >>>>> have headed off then. They do a number of dining trains too, but the >>>>> cost is a lot more than a day rover ticket and dinner on the service >>>>> train, though, of course, the dining train dinner is of a better quality >>>>> with staff attending to all of your requirements.


    I assumed that Tweed had often visited both GCRs, as theyrCOre his local >>>> preserved lines. What might be fun to do would be to combine a run of the >>>> full, currently open length of the GCR (N) with the GCR, including its >>>> Mountsorrel branch.



    IrCOm waiting for them to link up the lines. I hope I manage to live that >>> longrCa.
    IrCOve driven both steam and diesel locomotives on the GCR. They do a good >>> job but the countryside lets them down, which is something they canrCOt
    really do much about.

    Unfortunately, the longer GCR (N) has even less interesting countryside.
    ItrCOs a pity they canrCOt extend it to the *north*, perhaps to connect to the
    tram.

    In general, I think former branch lines make for more scenic preserved
    railways than straight, fast mainlines. They are often more curvy, and
    possibly run through hilly areas.


    I hope it works out for them. But I do wonder if the general public want really long (in terms of journey time) trips on preserved railways.

    I think somewhere around 10 miles, with a couple of interesting, different
    era, intermediate stations works best, ideally running through nice
    scenery, such as a winding river valley, with a couple of river crossings,
    and an interesting town at the end thatrCOs worth visiting in its own right, and a railway connection at the other end. So the SVR is close to ideal.
    The KVR has most of that, but is a bit short, and the Bluebell doesnrCOt have an interesting town at the end.

    The extended GCR is probably too long for 25mph trains, and the scenery is boring. ItrCOs too straight to provide engine views on curves, and none of
    the stations is in an interesting town, or connects to a modern rail or
    tram station.

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  • From Tweed@usenet.tweed@gmail.com to uk.railway on Sun Aug 31 12:46:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan Lee <alan@darkroom.plus.com> wrote:
    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to >>>>>> visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth
    visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles

    No one has mentioned the Great Central. The scenery isnt amazing, but >>>>>> the infrastructure there is an added bonus. They run a good timetable on
    Saturdays and Sundays so you dont have to get on/off at the termini, you
    can hop off an intermediate station to get a train heading the other way
    if you plan it correctly. Take a hour or so to visit the shed, which is >>>>>> a bit more restricted now, so not always possible to have a good look >>>>>> around, get into one of the signalboxes, and view the shops at
    Loughborough station. Cafes at each station are fine. We had dinner on >>>>>> one of the trains which was basic but good. Eat after 1pm, as the crowds
    have headed off then. They do a number of dining trains too, but the >>>>>> cost is a lot more than a day rover ticket and dinner on the service >>>>>> train, though, of course, the dining train dinner is of a better quality
    with staff attending to all of your requirements.


    I assumed that Tweed had often visited both GCRs, as theyrCOre his local >>>>> preserved lines. What might be fun to do would be to combine a run of the >>>>> full, currently open length of the GCR (N) with the GCR, including its >>>>> Mountsorrel branch.



    IrCOm waiting for them to link up the lines. I hope I manage to live that >>>> longrCa.
    IrCOve driven both steam and diesel locomotives on the GCR. They do a good >>>> job but the countryside lets them down, which is something they canrCOt >>>> really do much about.

    Unfortunately, the longer GCR (N) has even less interesting countryside. >>> ItrCOs a pity they canrCOt extend it to the *north*, perhaps to connect to the
    tram.

    In general, I think former branch lines make for more scenic preserved
    railways than straight, fast mainlines. They are often more curvy, and
    possibly run through hilly areas.


    I hope it works out for them. But I do wonder if the general public want
    really long (in terms of journey time) trips on preserved railways.

    I think somewhere around 10 miles, with a couple of interesting, different era, intermediate stations works best, ideally running through nice
    scenery, such as a winding river valley, with a couple of river crossings, and an interesting town at the end thatrCOs worth visiting in its own right, and a railway connection at the other end. So the SVR is close to ideal.
    The KVR has most of that, but is a bit short, and the Bluebell doesnrCOt have an interesting town at the end.

    The extended GCR is probably too long for 25mph trains, and the scenery is boring. ItrCOs too straight to provide engine views on curves, and none of the stations is in an interesting town, or connects to a modern rail or
    tram station.



    Once the GCR is extended it might make an income out of being a test track.
    It does a bit of that now, but this would give a mainline connection and a decent length for relatively fast running. They can run at up to 75 mph on
    non public testing days.

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  • From Recliner@recliner.usenet@gmail.com to uk.railway on Sun Aug 31 14:15:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 12:46:54 -0000 (UTC), Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan Lee <alan@darkroom.plus.com> wrote:
    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to >>>>>>> visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth
    visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles

    No one has mentioned the Great Central. The scenery isnt amazing, but >>>>>>> the infrastructure there is an added bonus. They run a good timetable on
    Saturdays and Sundays so you dont have to get on/off at the termini, you
    can hop off an intermediate station to get a train heading the other way
    if you plan it correctly. Take a hour or so to visit the shed, which is
    a bit more restricted now, so not always possible to have a good look >>>>>>> around, get into one of the signalboxes, and view the shops at
    Loughborough station. Cafes at each station are fine. We had dinner on >>>>>>> one of the trains which was basic but good. Eat after 1pm, as the crowds
    have headed off then. They do a number of dining trains too, but the >>>>>>> cost is a lot more than a day rover ticket and dinner on the service >>>>>>> train, though, of course, the dining train dinner is of a better quality
    with staff attending to all of your requirements.


    I assumed that Tweed had often visited both GCRs, as theyrCOre his local >>>>>> preserved lines. What might be fun to do would be to combine a run of the
    full, currently open length of the GCR (N) with the GCR, including its >>>>>> Mountsorrel branch.



    IrCOm waiting for them to link up the lines. I hope I manage to live that >>>>> longrCa.
    IrCOve driven both steam and diesel locomotives on the GCR. They do a good
    job but the countryside lets them down, which is something they canrCOt >>>>> really do much about.

    Unfortunately, the longer GCR (N) has even less interesting countryside. >>>> ItrCOs a pity they canrCOt extend it to the *north*, perhaps to connect to the
    tram.

    In general, I think former branch lines make for more scenic preserved >>>> railways than straight, fast mainlines. They are often more curvy, and >>>> possibly run through hilly areas.


    I hope it works out for them. But I do wonder if the general public want >>> really long (in terms of journey time) trips on preserved railways.

    I think somewhere around 10 miles, with a couple of interesting, different >> era, intermediate stations works best, ideally running through nice
    scenery, such as a winding river valley, with a couple of river crossings, >> and an interesting town at the end thatrCOs worth visiting in its own right, >> and a railway connection at the other end. So the SVR is close to ideal.
    The KVR has most of that, but is a bit short, and the Bluebell doesnrCOt have
    an interesting town at the end.

    The extended GCR is probably too long for 25mph trains, and the scenery is >> boring. ItrCOs too straight to provide engine views on curves, and none of >> the stations is in an interesting town, or connects to a modern rail or
    tram station.



    Once the GCR is extended it might make an income out of being a test track. >It does a bit of that now, but this would give a mainline connection and a >decent length for relatively fast running. They can run at up to 75 mph on >non public testing days.

    The GCR (N) still has the double-track formation, though not much double-track survives. If the funds are available,
    they could install quite a long length of double-track on that stretch, longer than the current GCR has. But the
    northern section lacks any authentic stations, which will need to be remedied.

    I don't know if there's any scope to create authentic-looking Nottingham (South) or Loughborough (North) stations, with
    road access and parking? In particular, could a Loughborough (North) station be created on the A60, just north of the
    new bridge, with a short walkway to the Midland station?

    Potentially, if not, they could be using the northern section as a 75mph test track while passenger trains trundle along
    at 25mph on the southern section.
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  • From Graeme Wall@rail@greywall.demon.co.uk to uk.railway on Sun Aug 31 14:41:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 31/08/2025 10:32, Recliner wrote:
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan Lee <alan@darkroom.plus.com> wrote:
    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to
    visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth >>>>> visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles

    No one has mentioned the Great Central. The scenery isnt amazing, but
    the infrastructure there is an added bonus. They run a good timetable on >>>> Saturdays and Sundays so you dont have to get on/off at the termini, you >>>> can hop off an intermediate station to get a train heading the other way >>>> if you plan it correctly. Take a hour or so to visit the shed, which is >>>> a bit more restricted now, so not always possible to have a good look
    around, get into one of the signalboxes, and view the shops at
    Loughborough station. Cafes at each station are fine. We had dinner on >>>> one of the trains which was basic but good. Eat after 1pm, as the crowds >>>> have headed off then. They do a number of dining trains too, but the
    cost is a lot more than a day rover ticket and dinner on the service
    train, though, of course, the dining train dinner is of a better quality >>>> with staff attending to all of your requirements.


    I assumed that Tweed had often visited both GCRs, as theyrCOre his local >>> preserved lines. What might be fun to do would be to combine a run of the >>> full, currently open length of the GCR (N) with the GCR, including its
    Mountsorrel branch.



    IrCOm waiting for them to link up the lines. I hope I manage to live that
    longrCa.
    IrCOve driven both steam and diesel locomotives on the GCR. They do a good >> job but the countryside lets them down, which is something they canrCOt
    really do much about.

    Unfortunately, the longer GCR (N) has even less interesting countryside. ItrCOs a pity they canrCOt extend it to the *north*, perhaps to connect to the
    tram.

    In general, I think former branch lines make for more scenic preserved railways than straight, fast mainlines. They are often more curvy, and possibly run through hilly areas.


    Wasn't the point of the GCR that it could run express locos at a more realistic speed?
    --
    Graeme Wall
    This account not read.


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  • From Graeme Wall@rail@greywall.demon.co.uk to uk.railway on Sun Aug 31 14:43:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 31/08/2025 12:02, Recliner wrote:
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan Lee <alan@darkroom.plus.com> wrote:
    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to >>>>>> visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth
    visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles

    No one has mentioned the Great Central. The scenery isnt amazing, but >>>>>> the infrastructure there is an added bonus. They run a good timetable on >>>>>> Saturdays and Sundays so you dont have to get on/off at the termini, you >>>>>> can hop off an intermediate station to get a train heading the other way >>>>>> if you plan it correctly. Take a hour or so to visit the shed, which is >>>>>> a bit more restricted now, so not always possible to have a good look >>>>>> around, get into one of the signalboxes, and view the shops at
    Loughborough station. Cafes at each station are fine. We had dinner on >>>>>> one of the trains which was basic but good. Eat after 1pm, as the crowds >>>>>> have headed off then. They do a number of dining trains too, but the >>>>>> cost is a lot more than a day rover ticket and dinner on the service >>>>>> train, though, of course, the dining train dinner is of a better quality >>>>>> with staff attending to all of your requirements.


    I assumed that Tweed had often visited both GCRs, as theyrCOre his local >>>>> preserved lines. What might be fun to do would be to combine a run of the >>>>> full, currently open length of the GCR (N) with the GCR, including its >>>>> Mountsorrel branch.



    IrCOm waiting for them to link up the lines. I hope I manage to live that >>>> longrCa.
    IrCOve driven both steam and diesel locomotives on the GCR. They do a good >>>> job but the countryside lets them down, which is something they canrCOt >>>> really do much about.

    Unfortunately, the longer GCR (N) has even less interesting countryside. >>> ItrCOs a pity they canrCOt extend it to the *north*, perhaps to connect to the
    tram.

    In general, I think former branch lines make for more scenic preserved
    railways than straight, fast mainlines. They are often more curvy, and
    possibly run through hilly areas.


    I hope it works out for them. But I do wonder if the general public want
    really long (in terms of journey time) trips on preserved railways.

    I think somewhere around 10 miles, with a couple of interesting, different era, intermediate stations works best, ideally running through nice
    scenery, such as a winding river valley, with a couple of river crossings, and an interesting town at the end thatrCOs worth visiting in its own right, and a railway connection at the other end. So the SVR is close to ideal.
    The KVR has most of that, but is a bit short, and the Bluebell doesnrCOt have an interesting town at the end.


    Watercress Line has interesting towns at both ends and a rail connection.
    --
    Graeme Wall
    This account not read.


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  • From Recliner@recliner.usenet@gmail.com to uk.railway on Sun Aug 31 15:11:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
    On 31/08/2025 10:32, Recliner wrote:
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Alan Lee <alan@darkroom.plus.com> wrote:
    On 27/08/2025 08:54, Tweed wrote:
    Now IrCOve got a bit more free time I thought IrCOd get around to
    visiting more
    preserved railways. IrCOm looking for the teamrCOs advice on those worth >>>>>> visiting. By worth I suppose I mean:
    Interesting and scenic countryside
    Decent rolling stock
    Something more than a couple of miles

    No one has mentioned the Great Central. The scenery isnt amazing, but >>>>> the infrastructure there is an added bonus. They run a good timetable on >>>>> Saturdays and Sundays so you dont have to get on/off at the termini, you >>>>> can hop off an intermediate station to get a train heading the other way >>>>> if you plan it correctly. Take a hour or so to visit the shed, which is >>>>> a bit more restricted now, so not always possible to have a good look >>>>> around, get into one of the signalboxes, and view the shops at
    Loughborough station. Cafes at each station are fine. We had dinner on >>>>> one of the trains which was basic but good. Eat after 1pm, as the crowds >>>>> have headed off then. They do a number of dining trains too, but the >>>>> cost is a lot more than a day rover ticket and dinner on the service >>>>> train, though, of course, the dining train dinner is of a better quality >>>>> with staff attending to all of your requirements.


    I assumed that Tweed had often visited both GCRs, as theyrCOre his local >>>> preserved lines. What might be fun to do would be to combine a run of the >>>> full, currently open length of the GCR (N) with the GCR, including its >>>> Mountsorrel branch.



    IrCOm waiting for them to link up the lines. I hope I manage to live that >>> longrCa.
    IrCOve driven both steam and diesel locomotives on the GCR. They do a good >>> job but the countryside lets them down, which is something they canrCOt
    really do much about.

    Unfortunately, the longer GCR (N) has even less interesting countryside.
    ItrCOs a pity they canrCOt extend it to the *north*, perhaps to connect to the
    tram.

    In general, I think former branch lines make for more scenic preserved
    railways than straight, fast mainlines. They are often more curvy, and
    possibly run through hilly areas.


    Wasn't the point of the GCR that it could run express locos at a more realistic speed?

    Yes, which makes it a less interesting route for heritage trains.

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  • From Roland Perry@roland@perry.uk to uk.railway on Mon Sep 1 07:38:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    In message <EEUsQ.456$cZb1.173@fx15.ams1>, at 09:32:20 on Sun, 31 Aug
    2025, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:

    Unfortunately, the longer GCR (N) has even less interesting countryside. >ItrCOs a pity they canrCOt extend it to the *north*, perhaps to connect to the >tram.

    The trackbed to the north looks free of buildings, but there's likely to
    be many landowners involved. It's need a new build halt just to the
    south of the A52 from where it would be a short walk to a tram stop.
    --
    Roland Perry
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