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Trains used as 'fire engines on rails' in hot weather



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crr2vjy7gvdo



A heritage railway is using water trains to help tackle the risk of
fire, after one of the driest years on record.

Trains have been pulling water tanks rCo equipped with pumps and sprayers
rCo to damp down the sides of railway tracks along the Ffestiniog and
Welsh Highland Railways in Gwynedd.
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On 26/08/2025 22:01, JMB99 wrote:

BBC News

Trains used as 'fire engines on rails' in hot weather

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crr2vjy7gvdo

A heritage railway is using water trains to help tackle the risk of
fire, after one of the driest years on record.

Trains have been pulling water tanks rCo equipped with pumps and sprayers rCo to damp down the sides of railway tracks along the Ffestiniog and
Welsh Highland Railways in Gwynedd.

It's a shame that the North York Moors Railway doesn't pass close to
Langdale Forest so it can deliver water to help the fire brigade put out
the moor/woodland fire that has been raging, on and off, since 11 August.
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 00:14:40 +0100
NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

On 26/08/2025 22:01, JMB99 wrote:

BBC News


Trains used as 'fire engines on rails' in hot weather



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crr2vjy7gvdo



A heritage railway is using water trains to help tackle the risk of
fire, after one of the driest years on record.

Trains have been pulling water tanks rCo equipped with pumps and sprayers >> rCo to damp down the sides of railway tracks along the Ffestiniog and
Welsh Highland Railways in Gwynedd.

It's a shame that the North York Moors Railway doesn't pass close to >Langdale Forest so it can deliver water to help the fire brigade put out
the moor/woodland fire that has been raging, on and off, since 11 August.

Surely there must be a helicopter + type approved water bowser somewhere in the
UK they could hire for a day FFS?


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On 27/08/2025 16:42, boltar@battlestar-galactica.com wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 00:14:40 +0100
NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

On 26/08/2025 22:01, JMB99 wrote:

BBC News

Trains used as 'fire engines on rails' in hot weather

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crr2vjy7gvdo

A heritage railway is using water trains to help tackle the risk of
fire, after one of the driest years on record.

Trains have been pulling water tanks rCo equipped with pumps and
sprayers rCo to damp down the sides of railway tracks along the
Ffestiniog and Welsh Highland Railways in Gwynedd.

It's a shame that the North York Moors Railway doesn't pass close to
Langdale Forest so it can deliver water to help the fire brigade put
out the moor/woodland fire that has been raging, on and off, since 11
August.

Surely there must be a helicopter + type approved water bowser somewhere
in the UK they could hire for a day FFS?

That would not be cheap, especially if everyone wants it at the same time.

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On 27/08/2025 16:59, Certes wrote:

That would not be cheap, especially if everyone wants it at the same time.

The local fire brigade used to have a system where local landowners
signed an agreement to pay the cost of helicopter.

Then in the event of a serious fire, the landowner could give permission
over the phone to go ahead and use a helicopter.

Many years ago my next door neighbour worked for one of the forestry companies. One Summer he came around and asked if he could borrow the
key to the track up to the local transmitter site.

When he returned the key he said they had got the fire brigade and their
own people up to the fire and got the fire under control. He said the
money saved could have covered the cost of the track but did not offer
to pay!


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On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 16:59:05 +0100
Certes <Certes@example.org> wrote:

On 27/08/2025 16:42, boltar@battlestar-galactica.com wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 00:14:40 +0100
NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

On 26/08/2025 22:01, JMB99 wrote:

BBC News

Trains used as 'fire engines on rails' in hot weather

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crr2vjy7gvdo

A heritage railway is using water trains to help tackle the risk of
fire, after one of the driest years on record.

Trains have been pulling water tanks rCo equipped with pumps and
sprayers rCo to damp down the sides of railway tracks along the
Ffestiniog and Welsh Highland Railways in Gwynedd.

It's a shame that the North York Moors Railway doesn't pass close to
Langdale Forest so it can deliver water to help the fire brigade put
out the moor/woodland fire that has been raging, on and off, since 11
August.

Surely there must be a helicopter + type approved water bowser somewhere
in the UK they could hire for a day FFS?

That would not be cheap, especially if everyone wants it at the same time.

Cheaper than the entire moor and all the farmers fields going up in smoke
I would have thought. Anyway, there was some reasonable rain in that area
today so hopefully they'll have it under control soon if not already.

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On 27/08/2025 16:59, Certes wrote:

On 27/08/2025 16:42, boltar@battlestar-galactica.com wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 00:14:40 +0100
NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

On 26/08/2025 22:01, JMB99 wrote:

BBC News

Trains used as 'fire engines on rails' in hot weather

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crr2vjy7gvdo

A heritage railway is using water trains to help tackle the risk of
fire, after one of the driest years on record.

Trains have been pulling water tanks rCo equipped with pumps and
sprayers rCo to damp down the sides of railway tracks along the
Ffestiniog and Welsh Highland Railways in Gwynedd.

It's a shame that the North York Moors Railway doesn't pass close to
Langdale Forest so it can deliver water to help the fire brigade put
out the moor/woodland fire that has been raging, on and off, since 11
August.

Surely there must be a helicopter + type approved water bowser
somewhere in the UK they could hire for a day FFS?

That would not be cheap, especially if everyone wants it at the same time.

They have been using a helicopter carrying a large "bucket" underneath
it, ferrying water from the lake in Dalby Forest to the fire. In the
second outbreak that began yesterday, loads of farmers brought bowsers
of water and used slurry spreaders to spray the burning peat. Several
army vehicles were seen this afternoon heading up the A169 from
Pickering towards Fylingdales RAF radar station.

There was a heavy rainstorm this evening which will hopefully have
damped the fire down enough that it is easier to contain.

It rated hardly any coverage on the national 10 o'clock news
last night. I wonder how much coverage it would have had if it was in
rural parts of southern England.
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NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

It rated hardly any coverage on the national 10 o'clock news
last night. I wonder how much coverage it would have had if it was in
rural parts of southern England.

It featured on the BBC1 one o'clock news yesterday. I came in after the
start and wasn't paying enough attention to notice where it was in the
running order.

THeo
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On 27/08/2025 21:35, NY wrote:

There was a heavy rainstorm this evening which will hopefully have
damped the fire down enough that it is easier to contain.

It has got into the peat, there have been peat fires that have last years.

We once set the peat on fire on one of sites, the peat used to get up
into the SnowTrac's engine compartment and onto the exhaust. We kept a
fire extinguisher with a plastic pipe on the output to be able to reach
the exhaust pipe.

But one days the ground below was smouldering and someone had to go down
for some containers of water then dig down to reach the seat of the fire.


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On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 21:35:58 +0100
NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

It rated hardly any coverage on the national 10 o'clock news
last night. I wonder how much coverage it would have had if it was in
rural parts of southern England.

To be fair, probably not a lot. The BBC doesn't seem to care much about anything outside the M25 or recently the M60. The only exception is if
there's some kind of minority group involved. Also they seem to care little for international stories either unless they're about:

1) Trump
2) Isreal/Gaza/Iran
3) Ukraine/Russia
and a distant 4th China

Any europe news? Forget it. eg: You'd never know Macron and Merz were in Moldova yesterday as elections in the latter were coming up that could be crucial to the stability of that part of europe. I had to read that in
Le Monde.

If I want to find out whats actually going on in the world the BBC news
website is no longer my first choice.

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 16:36:19 -0000 (UTC), boltar wrote:

Any europe news? Forget it. eg: You'd never know Macron and Merz were in Moldova yesterday as elections in the latter were coming up that could
be crucial to the stability of that part of europe. I had to read that
in Le Monde.

If I want to find out whats actually going on in the world the BBC news website is no longer my first choice.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2xzng4rwro

It's not on the main front page, but it's on the Europe section front
page.

Mike
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On 2025-08-28 17:36, boltar@battlestar-galactica.com wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 21:35:58 +0100
NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

It rated hardly any coverage on the national 10 o'clock news
last night. I wonder how much coverage it would have had if it was in
rural parts of southern England.

To be fair, probably not a lot. The BBC doesn't seem to care much about anything outside the M25 or recently the M60. The only exception is if there's some kind of minority group involved. Also they seem to care
little for international stories either unless they're about:

1) Trump
2) Isreal/Gaza/Iran
3) Ukraine/Russia and a distant 4th China

Any europe news? Forget it. eg: You'd never know Macron and Merz were in Moldova yesterday as elections in the latter were coming up that could be crucial to the stability of that part of europe. I had to read that in
Le Monde.

If I want to find out whats actually going on in the world the BBC news website is no longer my first choice.

It got some coverage?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2xzng4rwro

nib
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 17:39:11 -0000 (UTC)
Mike Humphrey <mail@michaelhumphrey.me.uk> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 16:36:19 -0000 (UTC), boltar wrote:

Any europe news? Forget it. eg: You'd never know Macron and Merz were in
Moldova yesterday as elections in the latter were coming up that could
be crucial to the stability of that part of europe. I had to read that
in Le Monde.

If I want to find out whats actually going on in the world the BBC news
website is no longer my first choice.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2xzng4rwro

It's not on the main front page, but it's on the Europe section front
page.

Wasn't when I checked yesterday and its hardly going to make it to the TV news. It shouldn't be buried away in a special europe section either. Why arn't the endless stories about gaza that say the same old thing shoved into the middle east section when very few people other than the liberal media and lefty protestors give a shit about it in this country? I remember almost cut and paste stories from the region when I was a student in the 90s with the
exact same type of student time waster (usually on arts or similar courses where they barely had to do any work) waving the PLO flag and protesting about Isreal when they weren't busy putting Troups Out of Ireland posters up.

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On 28/08/2025 18:39, Mike Humphrey wrote:

It's not on the main front page, but it's on the Europe section front
page.

Most times when someone moans about the BBC not covering a story, they
did but the person did not see it.

The news pages are changing all the time, if they did not then someone
would moan about them not changing!


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<boltar@battlestar-galactica.com> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 17:39:11 -0000 (UTC)
when they weren't busy putting Troups Out of Ireland posters up.

What mean students ,
Surely even at the time of the troubles the Irish deserved to have some singing and dancing.

GH



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On 28/08/2025 21:18, Marland wrote:

<boltar@battlestar-galactica.com> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 17:39:11 -0000 (UTC)
when they weren't busy putting Troups Out of Ireland posters up.

What mean students ,
Surely even at the time of the troubles the Irish deserved to have some singing and dancing.

With their arms at their sides?

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