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    From Recliner@recliner.usenet@gmail.com to uk.railway on Sun Aug 17 12:12:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Two new ferries are years late, and donrCOt fit the port theyrCOre meant to serve. A new deep-water berth on the Mersey River at Devonport [yes,
    really!] was meant to have been completed in time to accommodate the new ferries, but isnrCOt ready. They should have been in service in 2021, but
    2027 now looks more likely. The first to be delivered did spend some time
    in Scotland on the way from the shipyard to their new home.

    https://www.thetimes.com/article/50120418-1cf0-42c0-9dc5-20e1c0c2a639?shareToken=54fb39732dd0c956f7357dceff2bb1c3
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  • From ColinR@rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk to uk.railway on Sun Aug 17 13:49:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 17/08/2025 13:12, Recliner wrote:
    Two new ferries are years late, and donrCOt fit the port theyrCOre meant to serve. A new deep-water berth on the Mersey River at Devonport [yes,
    really!] was meant to have been completed in time to accommodate the new ferries, but isnrCOt ready. They should have been in service in 2021, but 2027 now looks more likely. The first to be delivered did spend some time
    in Scotland on the way from the shipyard to their new home.

    https://www.thetimes.com/article/50120418-1cf0-42c0-9dc5-20e1c0c2a639?shareToken=54fb39732dd0c956f7357dceff2bb1c3

    The commonality between this story and Scottish ferries can easily be
    summed up by one word from the article - "state-owned".
    --
    Colin

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  • From Recliner@recliner.usenet@gmail.com to uk.railway on Sun Aug 17 14:04:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:49:34 +0100, ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:

    On 17/08/2025 13:12, Recliner wrote:
    Two new ferries are years late, and donrCOt fit the port theyrCOre meant to >> serve. A new deep-water berth on the Mersey River at Devonport [yes,
    really!] was meant to have been completed in time to accommodate the new
    ferries, but isnrCOt ready. They should have been in service in 2021, but
    2027 now looks more likely. The first to be delivered did spend some time
    in Scotland on the way from the shipyard to their new home.

    https://www.thetimes.com/article/50120418-1cf0-42c0-9dc5-20e1c0c2a639?shareToken=54fb39732dd0c956f7357dceff2bb1c3

    The commonality between this story and Scottish ferries can easily be
    summed up by one word from the article - "state-owned".

    Yes, very true!
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  • From JMB99@mb@nospam.net to uk.railway on Sun Aug 17 17:24:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 17/08/2025 13:12, Recliner wrote:
    Two new ferries are years late, and donrCOt fit the port theyrCOre meant to serve. A new deep-water berth on the Mersey River at Devonport [yes,
    really!] was meant to have been completed in time to accommodate the new ferries, but isnrCOt ready. They should have been in service in 2021, but 2027 now looks more likely. The first to be delivered did spend some time
    in Scotland on the way from the shipyard to their new home.



    But did they have to start using plastic cutlery in the restaurant?





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  • From John Levine@johnl@taugh.com to uk.railway on Sun Aug 17 17:05:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    According to JMB99 <mb@nospam.net>:
    But did they have to start using plastic cutlery in the restaurant?

    You can't get away from it. I have a collection of Corelle plates and
    dishes with Amtrak logos that I got in the closeout section of the
    glass museum when Amtrak switched to plastic.

    If you're not familiar with Corelle, it's a three-layer tempered glass
    invented by Corning in 1970 and it is indestructable. Drop it on a
    concrete floor and the concrete might chip.
    --
    Regards,
    John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
    Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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  • From Sam Wilson@ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk to uk.railway on Sun Aug 17 17:29:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:49:34 +0100, ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:

    On 17/08/2025 13:12, Recliner wrote:
    Two new ferries are years late, and donrCOt fit the port theyrCOre meant to >>> serve. A new deep-water berth on the Mersey River at Devonport [yes,
    really!] was meant to have been completed in time to accommodate the new >>> ferries, but isnrCOt ready. They should have been in service in 2021, but >>> 2027 now looks more likely. The first to be delivered did spend some time >>> in Scotland on the way from the shipyard to their new home.

    https://www.thetimes.com/article/50120418-1cf0-42c0-9dc5-20e1c0c2a639?shareToken=54fb39732dd0c956f7357dceff2bb1c3

    The commonality between this story and Scottish ferries can easily be
    summed up by one word from the article - "state-owned".

    Yes, very true!

    Remember correlation is not causation.

    <http://xkcd.com/552>

    Sam
    --
    The entity formerly known as Sam.Wilson@ed.ac.uk
    Spit the dummy to reply
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  • From Arthur Figgis@afiggis@example.invalid to uk.railway on Mon Aug 18 18:23:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 17/08/2025 13:12, Recliner wrote:
    Two new ferries are years late, and donrCOt fit the port theyrCOre meant to serve. A new deep-water berth on the Mersey River at Devonport [yes,
    really!] was meant to have been completed in time to accommodate the new ferries, but isnrCOt ready. They should have been in service in 2021, but 2027 now looks more likely. The first to be delivered did spend some time
    in Scotland on the way from the shipyard to their new home.

    https://www.thetimes.com/article/50120418-1cf0-42c0-9dc5-20e1c0c2a639?shareToken=54fb39732dd0c956f7357dceff2bb1c3

    New Zealand has spent $671 million not getting some ferries. I don't
    think even Chris Grayling managed that: https://www.kiwirail.co.nz/media/kiwirail-concludes-irex-ferry-replacement-project
    --
    Arthur Figgis
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  • From Graeme Wall@rail@greywall.demon.co.uk to uk.railway on Mon Aug 18 20:25:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.railway

    On 18/08/2025 18:23, Arthur Figgis wrote:
    On 17/08/2025 13:12, Recliner wrote:
    Two new ferries are years late, and donrCOt fit the port theyrCOre meant to >> serve. A new deep-water berth on the Mersey River at Devonport [yes,
    really!] was meant to have been completed in time to accommodate the new
    ferries, but isnrCOt ready. They should have been in service in 2021, but
    2027 now looks more likely. The first to be delivered did spend some time
    in Scotland on the way from the shipyard to their new home.

    https://www.thetimes.com/article/50120418-1cf0-42c0-9dc5-20e1c0c2a639?shareToken=54fb39732dd0c956f7357dceff2bb1c3

    New Zealand-a has spent $671 million not getting some ferries. I don't
    think even Chris Grayling managed that: https://www.kiwirail.co.nz/media/kiwirail-concludes-irex-ferry-replacement-project


    Difference being NZ might get them somedayrCa
    --
    Graeme Wall
    This account not read.


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