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There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a woman asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her presentation.-a She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile.-a How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference between a metaphor and a simile?
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a woman asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her
presentation. She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile. How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference between a metaphor and a simile?
On 5.9.25 13:14, Jenny M Benson wrote:
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a woman
asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her
presentation.-a She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile.-a How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference between a
metaphor and a simile?
Hmm. Try asking Google about The Archers and the AI answer can almost categorically be considered incorrect.
This week I have been struggling with a streaming issue - most of the answers could have been produced by a politician in the last 20 years in that they answer a question - but not the one you are actually asking.
It is as though AI has been sent on one of those media training courses about answering the question you wish had been asked.
On the whole - no I do not trust it and it should be removed from Google listings.
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a woman >asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her
presentation. She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile. How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference between a >metaphor and a simile?
May we just clear one little thing up? AI doesn't actually know
anything. It/they/them have just amassed gazillions of petabytes of
data and then, when someone feeds in some data (ie - asks a question)
it associated that bit of data over there with this bit of date over
here based on the frequency that those bits of data have been found
together in what it has learned from.
On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 13:14:10 +0100, Jenny M Benson[snip]
<NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
See my post from 6th June about how Google AI convinced me that I used
to play the drums with the 60s band, The Zombies. My point there being
that Google search would have trawled through web pages and found the
correct answer ready-made but Google AI played the statistical
probability game and lost.
On 5.9.25 13:14, Jenny M Benson wrote:
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a
woman asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her
presentation.-a She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile.-a How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference between a
metaphor and a simile?
Hmm.-a Try asking Google about The Archers and the AI answer can almost categorically be considered incorrect.
This week I have been struggling with a streaming issue - most of the answers could have been produced by a politician in the last 20 years in that they answer a question - but not the one you are actually asking.
It is as though AI has been sent on one of those media training courses about answering the question you wish had been asked.
On the whole - no I do not trust it and it should be removed from Google listings.
On 05/09/2025 19:42, Nick Odell wrote:
On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 13:14:10 +0100, Jenny M Benson[snip]
<NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
See my post from 6th June about how Google AI convinced me that I used
to play the drums with the 60s band, The Zombies. My point there being
that Google search would have trawled through web pages and found the
correct answer ready-made but Google AI played the statistical
probability game and lost.
Was that Bob Henrit? I shall have to ask him. Jim Rodford (sadly
deceased) and his son Steve (who now plays for The Zombies)live in my >village. Perhaps Bob only played with Argent (the band).
On 05/09/2025 14:13, Kosmo wrote:
On 5.9.25 13:14, Jenny M Benson wrote:
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a woman asking
Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her presentation.-a She is then shows
starting her presentation with a simile.-a How much use is AI that doesn't know the
difference between a metaphor and a simile?
Hmm.-a Try asking Google about The Archers and the AI answer can almost categorically be
considered incorrect.
This week I have been struggling with a streaming issue - most of the answers could have
been produced by a politician in the last 20 years in that they answer a question - but
not the one you are actually asking. It is as though AI has been sent on one of those
media training courses about answering the question you wish had been asked. >>
On the whole - no I do not trust it and it should be removed from Google listings.
You can achieve this by adding -ai to the end of your google query, I just wish there were
a way of setting that as the default.
john
On 06/09/2025 09:37, john ashby wrote:
On 05/09/2025 14:13, Kosmo wrote:
On 5.9.25 13:14, Jenny M Benson wrote:
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a
woman asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her
presentation.-a She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile.-a How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference between >>>> a metaphor and a simile?
Hmm.-a Try asking Google about The Archers and the AI answer can
almost categorically be considered incorrect.
This week I have been struggling with a streaming issue - most of the
answers could have been produced by a politician in the last 20 years
in that they answer a question - but not the one you are actually
asking. It is as though AI has been sent on one of those media
training courses about answering the question you wish had been asked.
On the whole - no I do not trust it and it should be removed from
Google listings.
You can achieve this by adding -ai to the end of your google query, I
just wish there were a way of setting that as the default.
john
I don't trust AI at all, myself.
John, I use the Firefox browser on my lap top and have added "Google no
AI" as my default search engine. The thing is, I don't remember how I
did it, it's just there! I know I went to settings and search engines
and added it somehow.
Ah! Google (no AI) has found me this link, though I think the original instructions I used were briefer! https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ google-search-no-ai-overview.html
On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 02:15:48 +0100, Steveski <steveski7@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
On 05/09/2025 19:42, Nick Odell wrote:
On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 13:14:10 +0100, Jenny M Benson[snip]
<NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
See my post from 6th June about how Google AI convinced me that I used
to play the drums with the 60s band, The Zombies. My point there being
that Google search would have trawled through web pages and found the
correct answer ready-made but Google AI played the statistical
probability game and lost.
Was that Bob Henrit? I shall have to ask him. Jim Rodford (sadly
deceased) and his son Steve (who now plays for The Zombies)live in my
village. Perhaps Bob only played with Argent (the band).
That's a pretty good knicker-flash, Steveski: you can certainly hold
your head up there! I met Jim Rodford a couple of times at musical
instrument exhibitions when I was working for one of the manufacturers
and he was writing for one of the music magazines - "Guitarist" I
think it was, BIMBAM.
But whilst there's an impressive list of people who, at one time or
another, played with The Zombies, I believe I belong on two
overlapping lists: People Who Have Never Played With The Zombies and
the other one, People Who Have Never Played Drums.
Although as Sam of this parish mentioned at the time: it was the
sixties, man, so how would I know what I did then?
On 06/09/2025 07:45, Nick Odell wrote:
On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 02:15:48 +0100, Steveski <steveski7@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
On 05/09/2025 19:42, Nick Odell wrote:
On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 13:14:10 +0100, Jenny M Benson[snip]
<NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
See my post from 6th June about how Google AI convinced me that I used >>>> to play the drums with the 60s band, The Zombies. My point there being >>>> that Google search would have trawled through web pages and found the
correct answer ready-made but Google AI played the statistical
probability game and lost.
Was that Bob Henrit? I shall have to ask him. Jim Rodford (sadly
deceased) and his son Steve (who now plays for The Zombies)live in my
village. Perhaps Bob only played with Argent (the band).
That's a pretty good knicker-flash, Steveski: you can certainly hold
your head up there! I met Jim Rodford a couple of times at musical
instrument exhibitions when I was working for one of the manufacturers
and he was writing for one of the music magazines - "Guitarist" I
think it was, BIMBAM.
But whilst there's an impressive list of people who, at one time or
another, played with The Zombies, I believe I belong on two
overlapping lists: People Who Have Never Played With The Zombies and
the other one, People Who Have Never Played Drums.
Although as Sam of this parish mentioned at the time: it was the
sixties, man, so how would I know what I did then?
Quote: you can certainly hold your head up there!
<Groans and shakes head in a "I can't believe you did that" fashion.>
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a woman asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her presentation.-a She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile.-a How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference between a metaphor and a simile?
The other day, I asked it something I'd been wondering about for ages.
If you actually take the trouble to read the small print on any jar of instant coffee, you'll find some reference to "hot (but not boiling)"
water. Now I'd come across suggestions that coffee is indeed best made
with water at about 90-95 Celsius, but I'd always wondered whether it
was just that optimum temperature aspect, or whether there was something specifically about boiling that was undesirable. So I asked ChatGPT
about it (that's the only one of these AIs that I've interacted with so
far), and it _gave the impression_ of really understanding what I was
getting at, not just baldly answering my question.
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf--
Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes
On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 20:21:21 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
On 06/09/2025 07:45, Nick Odell wrote:
On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 02:15:48 +0100, Steveski <steveski7@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
On 05/09/2025 19:42, Nick Odell wrote:
On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 13:14:10 +0100, Jenny M Benson[snip]
<NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
See my post from 6th June about how Google AI convinced me that I used >>>>> to play the drums with the 60s band, The Zombies. My point there being >>>>> that Google search would have trawled through web pages and found the >>>>> correct answer ready-made but Google AI played the statistical
probability game and lost.
Was that Bob Henrit? I shall have to ask him. Jim Rodford (sadly
deceased) and his son Steve (who now plays for The Zombies)live in my
village. Perhaps Bob only played with Argent (the band).
That's a pretty good knicker-flash, Steveski: you can certainly hold
your head up there! I met Jim Rodford a couple of times at musical
instrument exhibitions when I was working for one of the manufacturers
and he was writing for one of the music magazines - "Guitarist" I
think it was, BIMBAM.
But whilst there's an impressive list of people who, at one time or
another, played with The Zombies, I believe I belong on two
overlapping lists: People Who Have Never Played With The Zombies and
the other one, People Who Have Never Played Drums.
Although as Sam of this parish mentioned at the time: it was the
sixties, man, so how would I know what I did then?
Quote: you can certainly hold your head up there!
<Groans and shakes head in a "I can't believe you did that" fashion.>
;-)
N.
There is AI and there is AI, and AI (and probably AI).
On 05/09/2025 20:41, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
The other day, I asked it something I'd been wondering about for ages.And what's the answer? I was wondering about that, and its relationship
If you actually take the trouble to read the small print on any jar of
instant coffee, you'll find some reference to "hot (but not boiling)"
water. Now I'd come across suggestions that coffee is indeed best made
with water at about 90-95 Celsius, but I'd always wondered whether it
was just that optimum temperature aspect, or whether there was something
specifically about boiling that was undesirable. So I asked ChatGPT
about it (that's the only one of these AIs that I've interacted with so
far), and it _gave the impression_ of really understanding what I was
getting at, not just baldly answering my question.
to altitude, when getting breakfast yesterday afternoon.
I've always understood it related to ground coffee. I never considered instant.
On 06/09/2025 23:29, Joe Kerr wrote:
There is AI and there is AI, and AI (and probably AI).
Are you Zathras?
On 05/09/2025 13:14, Jenny M Benson wrote:
The AI systems I worked on were obviously amazing and reliable. Mind
you, I didn't realise they were AI until I looked AI up in Wikipedia recently. They were very simple and specific.
I understand that some dedicated AI systems are extremely good at
specific tasks such spotting health problems from assorted tests or
X-rays. I'd still like a human second opinion though.
The problem is with the generic LLM systems that are so popular with the media these days. It's basically a case of a little knowledge being a
I've had a brief play with some (free) online versions, which are
probably not state of the art. They seem to be quite good at
understanding prompts and generating text on the subject, but are rather formulaic.
surprisingly well and did what was wanted, but not how I hoped it would
go about it. The ability to turn a few simple words into an appropriate image I find totally amazing even if it has a long way to go: There are
big gaps in its "knowledge" of the world and anything out of the
ordinary it just ignores. Rather disconcertingly it has a tendency to produce extremely good pictures of attractive, busty, naked, white women when NOT (I repeat, not) asked to do so.
I wouldn't trust a self driving car either. They work well in some
highly regulated environments (See https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0lzqvw7), but would it be able to
handle a bizarre, unexpected situation like a bridge collapsing or a
parachutist landing in the road in front of it? (It has happened. It
didn't end well.)
Whenever I think of AI and its ability I think of the first time I came across it. It was an article in Computer Weekly in about 1990. A
military system had been built to identify camouflaged tanks. Somebody
had gone out on Salisbury plain and taken a load of photographs of
bushes and camouflaged tanks. The system rapidly became capable of distinguishing between the two and was felt to be working. Somebody
decided a bit more testing would be a good idea and went and took some
more photographs. The system was unable to function on the new
photographs. It turned out the system had learned to identify pictures
taken on a sunny or cloudy day instead of with or without tanks. It may
look like AI is working, but can you be sure?
Whenever I think of AI and its ability I think of the first time I came across it. It was an article in Computer Weekly in about 1990. A
military system had been built to identify camouflaged tanks. Somebody
had gone out on Salisbury plain and taken a load of photographs of
bushes and camouflaged tanks. The system rapidly became capable of distinguishing between the two and was felt to be working. Somebody
decided a bit more testing would be a good idea and went and took some
more photographs. The system was unable to function on the new
photographs. It turned out the system had learned to identify pictures
taken on a sunny or cloudy day instead of with or without tanks. It may
look like AI is working, but can you be sure?
On 06/09/2025 23:29, Joe Kerr wrote:
There is AI and there is AI, and AI (and probably AI).
Are you Zathras?
On 2025/9/6 23:29:24, Joe Kerr wrote:
I've had a brief play with some (free) online versions, which are
probably not state of the art. They seem to be quite good at
I've only used it to solve specific problems or answer specific
questions, at which I've found it very good. (I've only used the free ChatGPT.com one.)
understanding prompts and generating text on the subject, but are rather
formulaic.
Ah, like the old Eliza perhaps!
I've tried a spot of software generation which worked
surprisingly well and did what was wanted, but not how I hoped it would
go about it. The ability to turn a few simple words into an appropriate
image I find totally amazing even if it has a long way to go: There are
big gaps in its "knowledge" of the world and anything out of the
ordinary it just ignores. Rather disconcertingly it has a tendency to
produce extremely good pictures of attractive, busty, naked, white women
when NOT (I repeat, not) asked to do so.
<Resists temptation to see what it does if you _do_ ask ... (-:>
What were you asking it to do when it did?
And would it produce moving images! I presume it would/does, though
probably not the free versions; I presume the less desirable parts of
society are already making it produce very nasty material, which are
going to give the courts real headaches if they aren't already, because
the perpetrators can argue that the things depicted never actually
happened.
I wouldn't trust a self driving car either. They work well in some
highly regulated environments (See
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0lzqvw7), but would it be able to
handle a bizarre, unexpected situation like a bridge collapsing or a
(Do you mean being _on_ the bridge [where I fear nothing can be done
anyway], or passing under/near it?)
handle. People can understand situations and adapt to unexpectedparachutist landing in the road in front of it? (It has happened. It
didn't end well.)
In those situations, do humans do better? I suspect the overall success/failure proportions will be _similar_, but the AI-generated failures/fatalities will be of a different _nature_. And thus
unacceptable
AI can only respond to what people have thought of training it to
On 2025/9/7 3:40:57, Steveski wrote:
On 06/09/2025 23:29, Joe Kerr wrote:Then there is the AI, for which my friend's farming family kept a bull
There is AI and there is AI, and AI (and probably AI).
Are you Zathras?
in case the man couldn't arrive when needed.
On 07/09/2025 05:28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
On 2025/9/7 3:40:57, Steveski wrote:
On 06/09/2025 23:29, Joe Kerr wrote:Then there is the AI, for which my friend's farming family kept a bull
There is AI and there is AI, and AI (and probably AI).
Are you Zathras?
in case the man couldn't arrive when needed.
One person I worked with (many years ago) would ask for "an artificial inseminator's lunch" in the local pub. I suppose they got used to him.
On 07/09/2025 05:50, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
I've only used it to solve specific problems or answer specificI've not tried ChatGPT. I didn't realise there was a free version.
questions, at which I've found it very good. (I've only used the free
ChatGPT.com one.)
Way more sophisticated. I've only used it to turn key word prompts intounderstanding prompts and generating text on the subject, but are rather >>> formulaic.
Ah, like the old Eliza perhaps!
descriptions for image generation. They are far more descriptive and imaginative than my dull mind can produce but always have a similar structure and literary style.
ordinary it just ignores. Rather disconcertingly it has a tendency to
produce extremely good pictures of attractive, busty, naked, white women >>> when NOT (I repeat, not) asked to do so.
<Resists temptation to see what it does if you _do_ ask ... (-:>
What were you asking it to do when it did?
I can't remember. I think it included the attractive woman bit but none
of the rest. Almost every reference to a person produced a white person unless specifically requested otherwise. Mention of characteristics such
as attractive often produced a package with related characteristics. Not mentioning any physical characteristic normally produced an attractive,
etc person. Any mention of a physical disability or abnormality was
ignored unless I added something science fictiony to it.
I did ask for an attractive woman with a large wooden chest and got
images of attractive women with assorted sideboards and boxes.
What some of those witches were doing was quite a surprise and may have
been appropriate for a coven on a blasted heath but were not suitable
for a family laptop.
It got very confused with Easter bunnies and chicks and produced some interesting hybrids.
There are free video generators available. Yes, some, at least, are not family friendly. I think English law covers (or tries to) AI generated
or manipulated images and video and treats them as if they were real.
I wouldn't trust a self driving car either. They work well in some
highly regulated environments (See
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0lzqvw7), but would it be able to
handle a bizarre, unexpected situation like a bridge collapsing or a
(Do you mean being _on_ the bridge [where I fear nothing can be done
anyway], or passing under/near it?)
I was thinking of disappearing in front of you as you approached it.
handle. People can understand situations and adapt to unexpected circumstances even if they have never met them before. The summary of
parachutist landing in the road in front of it? (It has happened. It
didn't end well.)
In those situations, do humans do better? I suspect the overall
success/failure proportions will be _similar_, but the AI-generated
failures/fatalities will be of a different _nature_. And thus
unacceptable
AI can only respond to what people have thought of training it to
that episode of More or Less is that self-driving vehicles are quite a
bit better than people in a limited number of well regulated, ordered
and maintained cities but can't handle anything else (and so would be a
lot worse if given the chance). I'd like to see two self-driving cars
towing caravans meeting head to head in a narrow Cornish lane, unless I
was driving behind one of them.
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a woman asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her presentation.-a She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile.-a How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference between a metaphor and a simile?
*I have never trusted or wanted AI in the world*.
It seems to me that it completely undermines the creative process that
humans are good at. I first came across its use by someone I know
'boasting' that she had run out of time and asked AI to write an article
for a magazine on X topic, using her style and that she was delighted
with the result and the time it saved her.
What do people want to do with all this time they are saving?
On 07/09/2025 05:28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
On 2025/9/7 3:40:57, Steveski wrote:
On 06/09/2025 23:29, Joe Kerr wrote:Then there is the AI, for which my friend's farming family kept a bull
There is AI and there is AI, and AI (and probably AI).
Are you Zathras?
in case the man couldn't arrive when needed.
One person I worked with (many years ago) would ask for "an artificial inseminator's lunch" in the local pub.-a I suppose they got used to him.
On 05/09/2025 13:14, Jenny M Benson wrote:
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a
woman asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her
presentation.-a She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile.-a How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference between a
metaphor and a simile?
*I have never trusted or wanted AI in the world*.
It seems to me that it completely undermines the creative process that humans are good at.-a I first came across its use by someone I know 'boasting' that she had run out of time and asked AI to write an article
for a magazine on X topic, using her style and that she was delighted
with the result and the time it saved her.
What do people want to do with all this time they are saving?
On 2025/9/7 16:45:19, Joe Kerr wrote:
On 07/09/2025 05:50, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
Sounds like we're using AI in _very_ different ways.>
I did ask for an attractive woman with a large wooden chest and got
images of attractive women with assorted sideboards and boxes.
Are you winding me up? If you included the "wooden", I'm not surprised
you got furniture!>
On 07/09/2025 19:23, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 07/09/2025 05:28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:I am curious as to what he was served, but afraid that I don't want to
On 2025/9/7 3:40:57, Steveski wrote:
On 06/09/2025 23:29, Joe Kerr wrote:Then there is the AI, for which my friend's farming family kept a bull
There is AI and there is AI, and AI (and probably AI).
Are you Zathras?
in case the man couldn't arrive when needed.
One person I worked with (many years ago) would ask for "an artificial
inseminator's lunch" in the local pub.-a I suppose they got used to him.
know.
On 05/09/2025 13:14, Jenny M Benson wrote:
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a
woman asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her
presentation.-a She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile.-a How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference between a
metaphor and a simile?
*I have never trusted or wanted AI in the world*.
It seems to me that it completely undermines the creative process that humans are good at.-a I first came across its use by someone I know 'boasting' that she had run out of time and asked AI to write an article
for a magazine on X topic, using her style and that she was delighted
with the result and the time it saved her.
What do people want to do with all this time they are saving?
On 08/09/2025 13:45, Joe Kerr wrote:
On 07/09/2025 19:23, Sam Plusnet wrote:<Boring answer>-a Ploughman's.
On 07/09/2025 05:28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:I am curious as to what he was served, but afraid that I don't want to
On 2025/9/7 3:40:57, Steveski wrote:
On 06/09/2025 23:29, Joe Kerr wrote:Then there is the AI, for which my friend's farming family kept a bull >>>> in case the man couldn't arrive when needed.
There is AI and there is AI, and AI (and probably AI).
Are you Zathras?
One person I worked with (many years ago) would ask for "an
artificial inseminator's lunch" in the local pub.-a I suppose they got
used to him.
know.
On 08/09/2025 10:52, Jane Vernon wrote:
On 05/09/2025 13:14, Jenny M Benson wrote:Probably porn.
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a
woman asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her
presentation.-a She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile.-a How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference between
a metaphor and a simile?
*I have never trusted or wanted AI in the world*.
It seems to me that it completely undermines the creative process that
humans are good at.-a I first came across its use by someone I know
'boasting' that she had run out of time and asked AI to write an
article for a magazine on X topic, using her style and that she was
delighted with the result and the time it saved her.
What do people want to do with all this time they are saving?
On 08/09/2025 14:06, Joe Kerr wrote:
On 08/09/2025 10:52, Jane Vernon wrote:
On 05/09/2025 13:14, Jenny M Benson wrote:Probably porn.
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a
woman asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her
presentation.-a She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile.-a How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference between >>>> a metaphor and a simile?
*I have never trusted or wanted AI in the world*.
It seems to me that it completely undermines the creative process
that humans are good at.-a I first came across its use by someone I
know 'boasting' that she had run out of time and asked AI to write an
article for a magazine on X topic, using her style and that she was
delighted with the result and the time it saved her.
What do people want to do with all this time they are saving?
Oh well, fair enough.
On 09/09/2025 13:07, Jane Vernon wrote:
On 08/09/2025 14:06, Joe Kerr wrote:Just to be clear: That wasn't a personal prediction. I meant it as a
On 08/09/2025 10:52, Jane Vernon wrote:
On 05/09/2025 13:14, Jenny M Benson wrote:Probably porn.
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a
woman asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her >>>>> presentation.-a She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile.-a How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference
between a metaphor and a simile?
*I have never trusted or wanted AI in the world*.
It seems to me that it completely undermines the creative process
that humans are good at.-a I first came across its use by someone I
know 'boasting' that she had run out of time and asked AI to write
an article for a magazine on X topic, using her style and that she
was delighted with the result and the time it saved her.
What do people want to do with all this time they are saving?
Oh well, fair enough.
general suggestion for society at large. I don't anticipate saving any
time this way.
On 05/09/2025 13:14, Jenny M Benson wrote:
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a
woman asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her
presentation.-a She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile.-a How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference between a
metaphor and a simile?
*I have never trusted or wanted AI in the world*.
It seems to me that it completely undermines the creative process that humans are good at.-a I first came across its use by someone I know 'boasting' that she had run out of time and asked AI to write an article
for a magazine on X topic, using her style and that she was delighted
with the result and the time it saved her.
What do people want to do with all this time they are saving?
On 5.9.25 13:14, Jenny M Benson wrote:
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a woman
asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her
presentation.-a She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile.-a How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference between a
metaphor and a simile?
Hmm. Try asking Google about The Archers and the AI answer can almost categorically be considered incorrect.
This week I have been struggling with a streaming issue - most of the answers could have been produced by a politician in the last 20 years in that they answer a question - but not the one you are actually asking.
It is as though AI has been sent on one of those media training courses about answering the question you wish had been asked.
On the whole - no I do not trust it and it should be removed from Google listings.
On 5.9.25 13:14, Jenny M Benson wrote:
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a woman
asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her
presentation.a She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile.a How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference between a
metaphor and a simile?
Hmm. Try asking Google about The Archers and the AI answer can almost >categorically be considered incorrect.
This week I have been struggling with a streaming issue - most of the >answers could have been produced by a politician in the last 20 years in >that they answer a question - but not the one you are actually asking.
It is as though AI has been sent on one of those media training courses >about answering the question you wish had been asked.
On the whole - no I do not trust it and it should be removed from Google >listings.Wot John sed.
On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:13:40 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
On 5.9.25 13:14, Jenny M Benson wrote:That reminds me of an old joke which was not only true in its time but
There is an add which runs on my PC quite frequently which shows a woman >>> asking Co-pilot to suggest a metaphor with which to begin her
presentation.-a She is then shows starting her presentation with a
simile.-a How much use is AI that doesn't know the difference between a
metaphor and a simile?
Hmm. Try asking Google about The Archers and the AI answer can almost
categorically be considered incorrect.
This week I have been struggling with a streaming issue - most of the
answers could have been produced by a politician in the last 20 years in
that they answer a question - but not the one you are actually asking.
It is as though AI has been sent on one of those media training courses
about answering the question you wish had been asked.
very prescient.
A group of people are flying in a hot air balloon over the USA when a
thick fog descends. They can't see anything and they have no idea
where they are. Suddenly, a large building looms in to view. They are
very close to the building so the balloon pilot calls out. "Hello!
Hello? Can anybody hear me? Hello?"
Eventually somebody opens a window. "Hello" calls the pilot. "We're
lost. Can you tell us where we are?"
"Sure" says the man at the window. "You're in a balloon." With which
he closes the window again.
"Okay," says the pilot to his passengers. "The wind is blowing from
NNE so I reckon in about half an hour we will be over SeaTac airport
and we can decend into an open space there."
"But how do you know that?" asked an astonished passenger. "That guy
didn't tell us anything."
"Oh yes he did," replied the pilot. "I asked a clear, straightforward question and since he gave a clear, straightforward answer which was
correct within itself but of absolutely no use whatsoever in our circumstances that could only possibly have come from Microsoft. So
this must be the Microsoft building in Seattle and I now know where we
are."
On the whole - no I do not trust it and it should be removed from GoogleWot John sed.
listings.
Nick
On 12/09/2025 09:25, Nick Odell wrote:
On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:13:40 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
On the whole - no I do not trust it and it should be removed from Google >>> listings.Wot John sed.
Nick
I'm indebted to Hellerat for her instructional URL on how to avoid AI on Google in Firefox. A similar process should work in Chrome (Settings-
Search Engines->Manage search engines->edit[pencil icon] where the URLcan be set) and probably other browsers to which I do not have access.
john
I'm indebted to Hellerat for her instructional URL on how to avoid AI on Google in Firefox. A similar process should work in Chrome (Settings-
Search Engines->Manage search engines->edit[pencil icon] where the URLcan be set) and probably other browsers to which I do not have access.
john