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    From carolet@carolet.umrat@gmail.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Aug 29 23:17:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.

    Cast :
    Brian Aldridge - Charles Collingwood
    David Archer - Timothy Bentinck
    Pip Archer - Daisy Badger
    Ruth Archer - Felicity Finch
    Tom Archer - William Troughton
    Lilian Bellamy - Sunny Ormonde
    Rex Fairbrother - Nick Barber
    Martyn Gibson - Jon Glover
    Amber Gordon - Charlotte Jordan
    Chelsea Horrobin - Madeleine Leslay
    Adam Macy - Andrew Wincott
    Kate Madikane - Perdita Avery
    Zainab Malik - Priyasasha Kumari
    Stella Pryor - Lucy Speed
    Lynda Snell - Carole Boyd
    Oliver Sterling - Michael Cochrane
    Lawrence - Rupert Vansittart

    Writer : Katie Hims
    Director : Pip Swallow
    Editor : Jeremy Howe

    S

    P

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    E

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    S


    Spoilers:
    Sunday 31st - Lynda finds herself exposed and Tom attempts to negotiate.
    Monday 1st - Lawrence plays his trump card and Adam chooses a side.
    Tuesday 2nd - Kate looks at the bigger picture and Lilian bolsters a friend. Wednesday 3rd - Chelsea has reservations and sensitivities are high at Brookfield.
    Thursday 4th - Zainab fears the worst and opportunity knocks for Stella.
    Friday 5th - Lynda reaches the end of her tether, and Amber gets more
    than she bargained for.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    RT Review by David Crawford

    Lynda declares war on Lawrence (Rupert Vansittart) and vows to make him
    pay for his attitude towards Chelsea and Zainab, but Lawrence stumbles
    upon some dirt of his own that could have lasting consequences. Chelsea celebrates her 21st birthday, but Amber drops a bombshell that surprises
    her and may risk their newly mended relationship.

    Tom insists that things must change at Bridge Farm, forcing Adam into a
    big decision, while Stella mulls over the offer of a great opportunity.
    rCa
    --
    CaroleT
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  • From Kosmo@krw@whitnet.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Sat Aug 30 10:58:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 29.8.25 23:17, carolet wrote:
    Brian Aldridge-a-a-a --a-a-a Charles Collingwood
    David Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Timothy Bentinck
    Pip Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Daisy Badger
    Ruth Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Felicity Finch
    Tom Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a William Troughton
    Lilian Bellamy-a-a-a --a-a-a Sunny Ormonde
    Rex Fairbrother-a-a-a --a-a-a Nick Barber
    Martyn Gibson-a-a-a --a-a-a Jon Glover
    Amber Gordon-a-a-a --a-a-a Charlotte Jordan
    Chelsea Horrobin-a-a-a --a-a-a Madeleine Leslay
    Adam Macy-a-a-a --a-a-a Andrew Wincott
    Kate Madikane-a-a-a --a-a-a Perdita Avery
    Zainab Malik-a-a-a --a-a-a Priyasasha Kumari
    Stella Pryor-a-a-a --a-a-a Lucy Speed
    Lynda Snell-a-a-a --a-a-a Carole Boyd
    Oliver Sterling-a-a-a --a-a-a Michael Cochrane
    Lawrence-a-a-a --a-a-a Rupert Vansittart

    I felt I should record that 6 out of 17 is a slightly more acceptable
    ratio than normal. Or 9 if we include partners which on first sight is
    a huge improvement.
    --
    Kosmo Richard W
    www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
    https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.media.radio.archers on Sat Aug 30 14:18:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 10:58:35 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:

    On 29.8.25 23:17, carolet wrote:
    Brian Aldridgeaaa -aaa Charles Collingwood
    David Archeraaa -aaa Timothy Bentinck
    Pip Archeraaa -aaa Daisy Badger
    Ruth Archeraaa -aaa Felicity Finch
    Tom Archeraaa -aaa William Troughton
    Lilian Bellamyaaa -aaa Sunny Ormonde
    Rex Fairbrotheraaa -aaa Nick Barber
    Martyn Gibsonaaa -aaa Jon Glover
    Amber Gordonaaa -aaa Charlotte Jordan
    Chelsea Horrobinaaa -aaa Madeleine Leslay
    Adam Macyaaa -aaa Andrew Wincott
    Kate Madikaneaaa -aaa Perdita Avery
    Zainab Malikaaa -aaa Priyasasha Kumari
    Stella Pryoraaa -aaa Lucy Speed
    Lynda Snellaaa -aaa Carole Boyd
    Oliver Sterlingaaa -aaa Michael Cochrane
    Lawrenceaaa -aaa Rupert Vansittart

    I felt I should record that 6 out of 17 is a slightly more acceptable
    ratio than normal. Or 9 if we include partners which on first sight is
    a huge improvement.

    On the other hand there doesn't seem to be a single Grundy yet it
    seems like only yeaterday that umrats were wondering, with good
    reason, if the programme ought to be renamed "The Grundys."

    Nick
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  • From Kosmo@krw@whitnet.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Sat Aug 30 15:38:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 30.8.25 14:18, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 10:58:35 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:

    On 29.8.25 23:17, carolet wrote:
    Brian Aldridge-a-a-a --a-a-a Charles Collingwood
    David Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Timothy Bentinck
    Pip Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Daisy Badger
    Ruth Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Felicity Finch
    Tom Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a William Troughton
    Lilian Bellamy-a-a-a --a-a-a Sunny Ormonde
    Rex Fairbrother-a-a-a --a-a-a Nick Barber
    Martyn Gibson-a-a-a --a-a-a Jon Glover
    Amber Gordon-a-a-a --a-a-a Charlotte Jordan
    Chelsea Horrobin-a-a-a --a-a-a Madeleine Leslay
    Adam Macy-a-a-a --a-a-a Andrew Wincott
    Kate Madikane-a-a-a --a-a-a Perdita Avery
    Zainab Malik-a-a-a --a-a-a Priyasasha Kumari
    Stella Pryor-a-a-a --a-a-a Lucy Speed
    Lynda Snell-a-a-a --a-a-a Carole Boyd
    Oliver Sterling-a-a-a --a-a-a Michael Cochrane
    Lawrence-a-a-a --a-a-a Rupert Vansittart

    I felt I should record that 6 out of 17 is a slightly more acceptable
    ratio than normal. Or 9 if we include partners which on first sight is
    a huge improvement.

    On the other hand there doesn't seem to be a single Grundy yet it
    seems like only yeaterday that umrats were wondering, with good
    reason, if the programme ought to be renamed "The Grundys."


    To accord with national insensitivities it can only be a matter of time
    before it is suggested it should become the Maliks.
    --
    Kosmo Richard W
    www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
    https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
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  • From carolet@carolet.umrat@gmail.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Sat Aug 30 16:40:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 30/08/2025 14:18, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 10:58:35 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:

    On 29.8.25 23:17, carolet wrote:
    Brian Aldridge-a-a-a --a-a-a Charles Collingwood
    David Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Timothy Bentinck
    Pip Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Daisy Badger
    Ruth Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Felicity Finch
    Tom Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a William Troughton
    Lilian Bellamy-a-a-a --a-a-a Sunny Ormonde
    Rex Fairbrother-a-a-a --a-a-a Nick Barber
    Martyn Gibson-a-a-a --a-a-a Jon Glover
    Amber Gordon-a-a-a --a-a-a Charlotte Jordan
    Chelsea Horrobin-a-a-a --a-a-a Madeleine Leslay
    Adam Macy-a-a-a --a-a-a Andrew Wincott
    Kate Madikane-a-a-a --a-a-a Perdita Avery
    Zainab Malik-a-a-a --a-a-a Priyasasha Kumari
    Stella Pryor-a-a-a --a-a-a Lucy Speed
    Lynda Snell-a-a-a --a-a-a Carole Boyd
    Oliver Sterling-a-a-a --a-a-a Michael Cochrane
    Lawrence-a-a-a --a-a-a Rupert Vansittart

    I felt I should record that 6 out of 17 is a slightly more acceptable
    ratio than normal. Or 9 if we include partners which on first sight is
    a huge improvement.

    On the other hand there doesn't seem to be a single Grundy yet it
    seems like only yeaterday that umrats were wondering, with good
    reason, if the programme ought to be renamed "The Grundys."

    Nick


    Not an actual Grundy, but we do have Amber, who wouldn't be there
    without the Grundy influence.
    --
    CaroleT

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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.media.radio.archers on Sat Aug 30 16:46:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 16:40:35 +0100, carolet <carolet.umrat@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 30/08/2025 14:18, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 10:58:35 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:

    On 29.8.25 23:17, carolet wrote:
    Brian Aldridgeaaa -aaa Charles Collingwood
    David Archeraaa -aaa Timothy Bentinck
    Pip Archeraaa -aaa Daisy Badger
    Ruth Archeraaa -aaa Felicity Finch
    Tom Archeraaa -aaa William Troughton
    Lilian Bellamyaaa -aaa Sunny Ormonde
    Rex Fairbrotheraaa -aaa Nick Barber
    Martyn Gibsonaaa -aaa Jon Glover
    Amber Gordonaaa -aaa Charlotte Jordan
    Chelsea Horrobinaaa -aaa Madeleine Leslay
    Adam Macyaaa -aaa Andrew Wincott
    Kate Madikaneaaa -aaa Perdita Avery
    Zainab Malikaaa -aaa Priyasasha Kumari
    Stella Pryoraaa -aaa Lucy Speed
    Lynda Snellaaa -aaa Carole Boyd
    Oliver Sterlingaaa -aaa Michael Cochrane
    Lawrenceaaa -aaa Rupert Vansittart

    I felt I should record that 6 out of 17 is a slightly more acceptable
    ratio than normal. Or 9 if we include partners which on first sight is
    a huge improvement.

    On the other hand there doesn't seem to be a single Grundy yet it
    seems like only yeaterday that umrats were wondering, with good
    reason, if the programme ought to be renamed "The Grundys."

    Nick


    Not an actual Grundy, but we do have Amber, who wouldn't be there
    without the Grundy influence.

    IF the wedding actually takes place and until the annulment/divorce
    shortly after, I'll be willing to treat Amber as a Grundy. Not before.

    Nick
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  • From Kosmo@krw@whitnet.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Sat Aug 30 23:33:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 30.8.25 16:46, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 16:40:35 +0100, carolet <carolet.umrat@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 30/08/2025 14:18, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 10:58:35 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:

    On 29.8.25 23:17, carolet wrote:
    Brian Aldridge-a-a-a --a-a-a Charles Collingwood
    David Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Timothy Bentinck
    Pip Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Daisy Badger
    Ruth Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Felicity Finch
    Tom Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a William Troughton
    Lilian Bellamy-a-a-a --a-a-a Sunny Ormonde
    Rex Fairbrother-a-a-a --a-a-a Nick Barber
    Martyn Gibson-a-a-a --a-a-a Jon Glover
    Amber Gordon-a-a-a --a-a-a Charlotte Jordan
    Chelsea Horrobin-a-a-a --a-a-a Madeleine Leslay
    Adam Macy-a-a-a --a-a-a Andrew Wincott
    Kate Madikane-a-a-a --a-a-a Perdita Avery
    Zainab Malik-a-a-a --a-a-a Priyasasha Kumari
    Stella Pryor-a-a-a --a-a-a Lucy Speed
    Lynda Snell-a-a-a --a-a-a Carole Boyd
    Oliver Sterling-a-a-a --a-a-a Michael Cochrane
    Lawrence-a-a-a --a-a-a Rupert Vansittart

    I felt I should record that 6 out of 17 is a slightly more acceptable
    ratio than normal. Or 9 if we include partners which on first sight is >>>> a huge improvement.

    On the other hand there doesn't seem to be a single Grundy yet it
    seems like only yeaterday that umrats were wondering, with good
    reason, if the programme ought to be renamed "The Grundys."

    Nick


    Not an actual Grundy, but we do have Amber, who wouldn't be there
    without the Grundy influence.

    IF the wedding actually takes place and until the annulment/divorce
    shortly after, I'll be willing to treat Amber as a Grundy. Not before.

    Nick

    How do you stand on pipstrella?
    --
    Kosmo Richard W
    www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
    https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Sun Aug 31 00:06:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 2025/8/30 23:33:18, Kosmo wrote:
    On 30.8.25 16:46, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 16:40:35 +0100, carolet <carolet.umrat@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 30/08/2025 14:18, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 10:58:35 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:

    On 29.8.25 23:17, carolet wrote:
    Brian Aldridge-a-a-a --a-a-a Charles Collingwood
    David Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Timothy Bentinck
    Pip Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Daisy Badger
    Ruth Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Felicity Finch
    Tom Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a William Troughton
    Lilian Bellamy-a-a-a --a-a-a Sunny Ormonde
    Rex Fairbrother-a-a-a --a-a-a Nick Barber
    Martyn Gibson-a-a-a --a-a-a Jon Glover
    Amber Gordon-a-a-a --a-a-a Charlotte Jordan
    Chelsea Horrobin-a-a-a --a-a-a Madeleine Leslay
    Adam Macy-a-a-a --a-a-a Andrew Wincott
    Kate Madikane-a-a-a --a-a-a Perdita Avery
    Zainab Malik-a-a-a --a-a-a Priyasasha Kumari
    Stella Pryor-a-a-a --a-a-a Lucy Speed
    Lynda Snell-a-a-a --a-a-a Carole Boyd
    Oliver Sterling-a-a-a --a-a-a Michael Cochrane
    Lawrence-a-a-a --a-a-a Rupert Vansittart

    I felt I should record that 6 out of 17 is a slightly more acceptable >>>>> ratio than normal. Or 9 if we include partners which on first sight is >>>>> a huge improvement.

    On the other hand there doesn't seem to be a single Grundy yet it
    seems like only yeaterday that umrats were wondering, with good
    reason, if the programme ought to be renamed "The Grundys."

    Nick


    Not an actual Grundy, but we do have Amber, who wouldn't be there
    without the Grundy influence.

    IF the wedding actually takes place and until the annulment/divorce
    shortly after, I'll be willing to treat Amber as a Grundy. Not before.

    Nick

    How do you stand on pipstrella?


    The whole thing drives me a little batty.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    They don't seem to want to blind me with science nor to impress me with
    their superior intellect, but just to share their enthusiasm for their
    subject. (Appreciative) contributor to Radio Times letters page, 26
    July-1 August 2014
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  • From Chris@chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Sun Aug 31 07:46:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 16:40:35 +0100, carolet <carolet.umrat@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 30/08/2025 14:18, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 10:58:35 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:

    On 29.8.25 23:17, carolet wrote:
    Brian Aldridge-a-a-a --a-a-a Charles Collingwood
    David Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Timothy Bentinck
    Pip Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Daisy Badger
    Ruth Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Felicity Finch
    Tom Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a William Troughton
    Lilian Bellamy-a-a-a --a-a-a Sunny Ormonde
    Rex Fairbrother-a-a-a --a-a-a Nick Barber
    Martyn Gibson-a-a-a --a-a-a Jon Glover
    Amber Gordon-a-a-a --a-a-a Charlotte Jordan
    Chelsea Horrobin-a-a-a --a-a-a Madeleine Leslay
    Adam Macy-a-a-a --a-a-a Andrew Wincott
    Kate Madikane-a-a-a --a-a-a Perdita Avery
    Zainab Malik-a-a-a --a-a-a Priyasasha Kumari
    Stella Pryor-a-a-a --a-a-a Lucy Speed
    Lynda Snell-a-a-a --a-a-a Carole Boyd
    Oliver Sterling-a-a-a --a-a-a Michael Cochrane
    Lawrence-a-a-a --a-a-a Rupert Vansittart

    I felt I should record that 6 out of 17 is a slightly more acceptable
    ratio than normal. Or 9 if we include partners which on first sight is >>>> a huge improvement.

    On the other hand there doesn't seem to be a single Grundy yet it
    seems like only yeaterday that umrats were wondering, with good
    reason, if the programme ought to be renamed "The Grundys."

    Nick


    Not an actual Grundy, but we do have Amber, who wouldn't be there
    without the Grundy influence.

    IF the wedding actually takes place and until the annulment/divorce
    shortly after, I'll be willing to treat Amber as a Grundy. Not before.

    Nick


    How *old* is George? And Amber come to that. And does she actually have
    an income to support them both? George isnrCOt going to be picking up prime jobs with his history now : donrCOt see anyone employing him outside the
    family - the village is still divided over him as is his nearest and
    dearest. Where does she think theyrCOll live for a start? HasnrCOt she worked out how few empty homes there are to rent? Or even a bedsit? Wonder where
    she lived as a secondary school too big for her boots teenager?

    Mrs McT

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  • From Kosmo@krw@whitnet.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Sun Aug 31 09:21:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 31.8.25 08:46, Chris wrote:
    How*old* is George?

    DoB 7/4/05 - so he is 20

    And Amber come to that.

    A couple of years younger than Chelsea who is about 20 / 21.


    And does she actually have
    an income to support them both?

    She has full time employment at the Farm Supplies (Borchester) place
    where she is known to work. She also seems to earn money and freebies
    from her influenced people - the numbers must be high if paying for
    teeth in a foreign country.

    George isnrCOt going to be picking up prime
    jobs with his history now : donrCOt see anyone employing him outside the family - the village is still divided over him as is his nearest and dearest.

    Well Will has no proper job since he shot out the ceiling but seems to survive. Eddie has had the market a day or two a week but no longer
    seems to do milking at Brookfield. So following the footsteps of the
    family with ducking and diving.

    Where does she think theyrCOll live for a start?

    George has rooms at Grange Farm, Little Grange and No 1 which George
    expects to inherit I am sure. Take your pick. Plus the flat she has
    over the garage which she appeared to abandon with a couple of suitcases.

    HasnrCOt she worked
    out how few empty homes there are to rent?

    Her vast following will enable her to get Home Farm to live in for free.

    Or even a bedsit?

    I am sure that will not match her online lifestyle.

    Wonder where
    she lived as a secondary school too big for her boots teenager?

    With her parents who do not understand her (or understand her just too
    well I suspect). And there is still the flat.
    --
    Kosmo Richard W
    www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
    https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Sun Aug 31 18:35:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 30/08/2025 23:33, Kosmo wrote:
    On 30.8.25 16:46, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 16:40:35 +0100, carolet <carolet.umrat@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 30/08/2025 14:18, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 10:58:35 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:

    On 29.8.25 23:17, carolet wrote:
    Brian Aldridge-a-a-a --a-a-a Charles Collingwood
    David Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Timothy Bentinck
    Pip Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Daisy Badger
    Ruth Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a Felicity Finch
    Tom Archer-a-a-a --a-a-a William Troughton
    Lilian Bellamy-a-a-a --a-a-a Sunny Ormonde
    Rex Fairbrother-a-a-a --a-a-a Nick Barber
    Martyn Gibson-a-a-a --a-a-a Jon Glover
    Amber Gordon-a-a-a --a-a-a Charlotte Jordan
    Chelsea Horrobin-a-a-a --a-a-a Madeleine Leslay
    Adam Macy-a-a-a --a-a-a Andrew Wincott
    Kate Madikane-a-a-a --a-a-a Perdita Avery
    Zainab Malik-a-a-a --a-a-a Priyasasha Kumari
    Stella Pryor-a-a-a --a-a-a Lucy Speed
    Lynda Snell-a-a-a --a-a-a Carole Boyd
    Oliver Sterling-a-a-a --a-a-a Michael Cochrane
    Lawrence-a-a-a --a-a-a Rupert Vansittart

    I felt I should record that 6 out of 17 is a slightly more acceptable >>>>> ratio than normal.-a Or 9 if we include partners which on first
    sight is
    a huge improvement.

    On the other hand there doesn't seem to be a single Grundy yet it
    seems like only yeaterday that umrats were wondering, with good
    reason, if the programme ought to be renamed "The Grundys."

    Nick


    Not an actual Grundy, but we do have Amber, who wouldn't be there
    without the Grundy influence.

    IF the wedding actually takes place and until the annulment/divorce
    shortly after, I'll be willing to treat Amber as a Grundy. Not before.

    Nick

    How do you stand on pipstrella?

    Don't do that. They're protected.
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Chris@chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Tue Sep 2 13:47:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
    On 31.8.25 08:46, Chris wrote:
    How*old* is George?

    DoB 7/4/05 - so he is 20

    And Amber come to that.

    A couple of years younger than Chelsea who is about 20 / 21.


    And does she actually have
    an income to support them both?

    She has full time employment at the Farm Supplies (Borchester) place
    where she is known to work. She also seems to earn money and freebies
    from her influenced people - the numbers must be high if paying for
    teeth in a foreign country.

    George isnrCOt going to be picking up prime
    jobs with his history now : donrCOt see anyone employing him outside the
    family - the village is still divided over him as is his nearest and
    dearest.

    Well Will has no proper job since he shot out the ceiling but seems to survive. Eddie has had the market a day or two a week but no longer
    seems to do milking at Brookfield. So following the footsteps of the
    family with ducking and diving.

    Where does she think theyrCOll live for a start?

    George has rooms at Grange Farm, Little Grange and No 1 which George
    expects to inherit I am sure. Take your pick. Plus the flat she has
    over the garage which she appeared to abandon with a couple of suitcases.

    HasnrCOt she worked
    out how few empty homes there are to rent?

    Her vast following will enable her to get Home Farm to live in for free.

    Or even a bedsit?

    I am sure that will not match her online lifestyle.

    Wonder where
    she lived as a secondary school too big for her boots teenager?

    With her parents who do not understand her (or understand her just too
    well I suspect). And there is still the flat.

    But were they stinking rich giving her grand ideas above her station or
    more of an Joe and Eddy rCa..

    Many people at 20 or 21 have a lot more nouse than they have. George seems
    to be turning into a 21st century Alf with a few Horobin genes. Amber is
    just a spoilt not yet grown up 20 year old airhead groomed by someone on
    social media.

    I think I preferred Krait as a teenager to these.

    Mrs McT





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  • From Kosmo@krw@whitnet.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Tue Sep 2 15:04:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 2.9.25 14:47, Chris wrote:
    Many people at 20 or 21 have a lot more nouse than they have. George seems to be turning into a 21st century Alf with a few Horobin genes. Amber is just a spoilt not yet grown up 20 year old airhead groomed by someone on social media.

    I am not at all sure that Amber has been groomed by anyone. Influencers
    exist and Amber has worked very hard at it, if nothing else she would
    appear to have embraced an ethic to work hard - but it is in a way that
    an older generation perhaps does not recognise.

    She says herself that on leaving school she re-invented herself - that
    takes a lot of willpower.

    George is the son of Will and Emma if I remember correctly.

    Will is 50% Grundy and 50% Larkin and Emma is 50% Horrobin and 50%
    Carter. We know that the Grundies are not always law abiding and most
    of the Horrobins seem to be prison inmates at one time or another so the Larkin and Carter genes are probably outvoted at every opportunity.
    --
    Kosmo Richard W
    www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
    https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
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  • From Chris@chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Wed Sep 3 13:43:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
    On 2.9.25 14:47, Chris wrote:
    Many people at 20 or 21 have a lot more nouse than they have. George seems >> to be turning into a 21st century Alf with a few Horobin genes. Amber is
    just a spoilt not yet grown up 20 year old airhead groomed by someone on
    social media.

    I am not at all sure that Amber has been groomed by anyone. Influencers exist and Amber has worked very hard at it, if nothing else she would
    appear to have embraced an ethic to work hard - but it is in a way that
    an older generation perhaps does not recognise.

    She says herself that on leaving school she re-invented herself - that
    takes a lot of willpower.

    George is the son of Will and Emma if I remember correctly.

    Will is 50% Grundy and 50% Larkin and Emma is 50% Horrobin and 50%
    Carter. We know that the Grundies are not always law abiding and most
    of the Horrobins seem to be prison inmates at one time or another so the Larkin and Carter genes are probably outvoted at every opportunity.

    She sounds like a 20 year old going on 30. Probably a very good
    description of rCyinfluencersrCO. I sort of follow several young visually impaired influencers : one influences make up and how to use it, the others rabbit on about how they manage to do anything and everything despite being totally blind or with a bit of sight. Not people with the sort of sight
    levels I still have (thanks to the wonderful invention of specs! :).

    ChelsearCOs not an airhead, too much Carter in her for that thankfully, but Amber makes me imagine she is. Not that IrCOve knowingly ever met one.

    Mrs McT


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  • From Jenny M Benson@NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Wed Sep 3 18:57:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 03/09/2025 14:43, Chris wrote:
    one influences make up and how to use it, the others
    rabbit on about how they manage to do anything and everything despite being totally blind or with a bit of sight.

    Precisely the sort of people who make me wonder why on earth "Disabled"
    became an acceptable term in place of "Handicapped."

    I, myself, am now *handicapped* by a condition which makes it very
    difficult for me to walk, do some household chores etc. I have a
    mobility scooter and qualified for a Blue Badge. I am definitely not disabled.

    (On a vaguely similar note, warning to anyone who says, when I'm dead,
    that I "passed." I will come back and haunt them.)
    --
    Jenny M Benson
    Wrexham, UK
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Wed Sep 3 19:09:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 03/09/2025 18:57, Jenny M Benson wrote:
    On 03/09/2025 14:43, Chris wrote:
    one influences make up and how to use it, the others
    rabbit on about how they manage to do anything and everything despite
    being
    totally blind or with a bit of sight.

    Precisely the sort of people who make me wonder why on earth "Disabled" became an acceptable term in place of "Handicapped."

    I, myself, am now *handicapped* by a condition which makes it very
    difficult for me to walk, do some household chores etc.-a I have a
    mobility scooter and qualified for a Blue Badge.-a I am definitely not disabled.

    (On a vaguely similar note, warning to anyone who says, when I'm dead,
    that I "passed."-a I will come back and haunt them.)

    It does sound like an exam result - but no mention of getting a Desmond,
    or First Class Hons.
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Chris@chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Wed Sep 3 18:27:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 03/09/2025 14:43, Chris wrote:
    one influences make up and how to use it, the others
    rabbit on about how they manage to do anything and everything despite being >> totally blind or with a bit of sight.

    Precisely the sort of people who make me wonder why on earth "Disabled" became an acceptable term in place of "Handicapped."

    I, myself, am now *handicapped* by a condition which makes it very
    difficult for me to walk, do some household chores etc. I have a
    mobility scooter and qualified for a Blue Badge. I am definitely not disabled.

    (On a vaguely similar note, warning to anyone who says, when I'm dead,
    that I "passed." I will come back and haunt them.)


    Passed? Where is what I want to ask.

    IrCOm noticing people in their 80s who I thought were immune to on line speak (they donrCOt use social media) are using it as well. USians again methinks.

    *dis*abled being the opposite word to able I think. When the likes of
    Peter White do it, one thinks there must be a policy somewhere.

    AI says this.

    rCLThe term "handicapped" refers to a disadvantage experienced by a person
    due to a physical or mental impairment that hinders their normal day-to-day functioning. While the word was once used to describe someone with a disability, it is now considered outdated and potentially offensive, and
    the preferred term is "disabled". The term "handicap" carries connotations
    of a burden or an individual problem, rather than focusing on societal barriersrCY. Where does that leave the golfing rCyhandicaprCO, one muses.

    Mrs McT



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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Thu Sep 4 01:18:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 2025/9/3 19:9:8, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    []
    (On a vaguely similar note, warning to anyone who says, when I'm dead,
    that I "passed."-a I will come back and haunt them.)
    Or "was taken from us", or "left us", or many such euphemisms (or worse,
    that imply something). I'll join you in the haunting!>>
    It does sound like an exam result - but no mention of getting a Desmond,
    or First Class Hons.

    I got a Desmond - but I think that was more acceptable in about 1982;
    nowadays, it seems only firsts are, like As at A level (I don't remember
    "Ay star" ever being mentioned).I've heard it suggested that, in the
    same way a four-minute mile would hardly raise an eyebrow nowadays, that intellectual power (or whatever) is also improving with time; my jury is
    still out on that.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
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  • From Kosmo@krw@whitnet.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Thu Sep 4 09:26:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 3.9.25 18:57, Jenny M Benson wrote:
    On 03/09/2025 14:43, Chris wrote:
    one influences make up and how to use it, the others
    rabbit on about how they manage to do anything and everything despite
    being
    totally blind or with a bit of sight.

    Precisely the sort of people who make me wonder why on earth "Disabled" became an acceptable term in place of "Handicapped."

    I, myself, am now *handicapped* by a condition which makes it very
    difficult for me to walk, do some household chores etc.-a I have a
    mobility scooter and qualified for a Blue Badge.-a I am definitely not disabled.

    (On a vaguely similar note, warning to anyone who says, when I'm dead,
    that I "passed."-a I will come back and haunt them.)


    AI says:
    The word "handicapped" is considered offensive because it has negative connotations, is associated with the historical idea of begging, and
    focuses on a person's impairment rather than the societal barriers they
    face. Instead of "handicapped," the preferred and more respectful
    terminology is "disabled person" or using person-first language like
    "person with a disability".

    Just saying.
    --
    Kosmo Richard W
    www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
    https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
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  • From Kosmo@krw@whitnet.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Thu Sep 4 09:27:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 3.9.25 19:27, Chris wrote:
    Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 03/09/2025 14:43, Chris wrote:
    one influences make up and how to use it, the others
    rabbit on about how they manage to do anything and everything despite being >>> totally blind or with a bit of sight.

    Precisely the sort of people who make me wonder why on earth "Disabled"
    became an acceptable term in place of "Handicapped."

    I, myself, am now *handicapped* by a condition which makes it very
    difficult for me to walk, do some household chores etc. I have a
    mobility scooter and qualified for a Blue Badge. I am definitely not
    disabled.

    (On a vaguely similar note, warning to anyone who says, when I'm dead,
    that I "passed." I will come back and haunt them.)


    Passed? Where is what I want to ask.

    IrCOm noticing people in their 80s who I thought were immune to on line speak (they donrCOt use social media) are using it as well. USians again methinks.

    *dis*abled being the opposite word to able I think. When the likes of
    Peter White do it, one thinks there must be a policy somewhere.

    AI says this.

    rCLThe term "handicapped" refers to a disadvantage experienced by a person due to a physical or mental impairment that hinders their normal day-to-day functioning. While the word was once used to describe someone with a disability, it is now considered outdated and potentially offensive, and
    the preferred term is "disabled". The term "handicap" carries connotations
    of a burden or an individual problem, rather than focusing on societal barriersrCY. Where does that leave the golfing rCyhandicaprCO, one muses.

    Mrs McT




    Snap!!!
    --
    Kosmo Richard W
    www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
    https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
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  • From Jenny M Benson@NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Thu Sep 4 10:10:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 04/09/2025 09:26, Kosmo wrote:
    AI says:
    The word "handicapped" is considered offensive because it has negative connotations, is associated with the historical idea of begging, and
    focuses on a person's impairment rather than the societal barriers they face. Instead of "handicapped," the preferred and more respectful terminology is "disabled person" or using person-first language like
    "person with a disability".

    I must say "person with a disability" is more acceptable to me because
    it is accurate.

    I absolutely do not see why "handicapped" does not focus on societal
    barriers because that is exactly what the word means - the way the world
    is puts more or less of a handicap on a person, just as a horse in a
    Handicap Race has to carry more weight and a golfer who is more skilled carried a handicap to make him/her more equal to others in the game.
    --
    Jenny M Benson
    Wrexham, UK
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  • From John Armstrong@jja@blueyonder.co.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Sep 5 08:55:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 04/09/2025 10:10, Jenny M Benson wrote:
    On 04/09/2025 09:26, Kosmo wrote:
    AI says:
    The word "handicapped" is considered offensive because it has negative
    connotations, is associated with the historical idea of begging, and
    focuses on a person's impairment rather than the societal barriers
    they face. Instead of "handicapped," the preferred and more respectful
    terminology is "disabled person" or using person-first language like
    "person with a disability".

    I must say "person with a disability" is more acceptable to me because
    it is accurate.

    I absolutely do not see why "handicapped"-a does not focus on societal barriers because that is exactly what the word means - the way the world
    is puts more or less of a handicap on a person, just as a horse in a Handicap Race has to carry more weight and a golfer who is more skilled carried a handicap to make him/her more equal to others in the game.

    "All golfers are equal, but some are more equal than others".
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  • From Jane Vernon@jane@clothandclay.co.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Sep 5 10:20:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 03/09/2025 18:57, Jenny M Benson wrote:
    On 03/09/2025 14:43, Chris wrote:
    one influences make up and how to use it, the others
    rabbit on about how they manage to do anything and everything despite
    being
    totally blind or with a bit of sight.

    Precisely the sort of people who make me wonder why on earth "Disabled" became an acceptable term in place of "Handicapped."

    I, myself, am now *handicapped* by a condition which makes it very
    difficult for me to walk, do some household chores etc.-a I have a
    mobility scooter and qualified for a Blue Badge.-a I am definitely not disabled.

    (On a vaguely similar note, warning to anyone who says, when I'm dead,
    that I "passed."-a I will come back and haunt them.)

    YANAOU
    --
    Jane
    The Amethyst Artist
    BTM

    http://www.clothandclay.co.uk/umra/cookbook.htm - Umrats' recipes






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  • From Chris@chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Sep 5 16:20:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
    On 03/09/2025 18:57, Jenny M Benson wrote:
    On 03/09/2025 14:43, Chris wrote:
    one influences make up and how to use it, the others
    rabbit on about how they manage to do anything and everything despite
    being
    totally blind or with a bit of sight.

    Precisely the sort of people who make me wonder why on earth "Disabled"
    became an acceptable term in place of "Handicapped."

    I, myself, am now *handicapped* by a condition which makes it very
    difficult for me to walk, do some household chores etc.-a I have a
    mobility scooter and qualified for a Blue Badge.-a I am definitely not
    disabled.

    (On a vaguely similar note, warning to anyone who says, when I'm dead,
    that I "passed."-a I will come back and haunt them.)

    It does sound like an exam result - but no mention of getting a Desmond,
    or First Class Hons.


    Desmond - whoosh

    mrs McT

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  • From Kosmo@krw@whitnet.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Sep 5 17:24:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 5.9.25 17:20, Chris wrote:
    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
    On 03/09/2025 18:57, Jenny M Benson wrote:
    On 03/09/2025 14:43, Chris wrote:
    one influences make up and how to use it, the others
    rabbit on about how they manage to do anything and everything despite
    being
    totally blind or with a bit of sight.

    Precisely the sort of people who make me wonder why on earth "Disabled"
    became an acceptable term in place of "Handicapped."

    I, myself, am now *handicapped* by a condition which makes it very
    difficult for me to walk, do some household chores etc.-a I have a
    mobility scooter and qualified for a Blue Badge.-a I am definitely not
    disabled.

    (On a vaguely similar note, warning to anyone who says, when I'm dead,
    that I "passed."-a I will come back and haunt them.)

    It does sound like an exam result - but no mention of getting a Desmond,
    or First Class Hons.


    Desmond - whoosh

    mrs McT


    Desmond Tutu; a degree is a 2 (ii). So if you get a Desmond you have a
    tutu.
    --
    Kosmo Richard W
    www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
    https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Sep 5 19:04:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 2025/9/5 17:24:2, Kosmo wrote:
    []

    It does sound like an exam result - but no mention of getting a Desmond, >>> or First Class Hons.


    Desmond - whoosh

    mrs McT


    Desmond Tutu; a degree is a 2 (ii). So if you get a Desmond you have a tutu.


    Yes. UK university B.Sc. or B. A. degrees are either first, second, or
    third class with honours, or just a pass. But so many people were coming
    in the "second" section that it was further divided into two-one and
    two-two.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    they did so much with so little, now they do so little with so much.
    - @richardgregory3684, 2023 (on the Doctor Who Theme)
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Sep 5 19:44:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 23:17:55 +0100, carolet <carolet.umrat@gmail.com>
    wrote:



    Spoilers:
    Friday 5th - Lynda reaches the end of her tether, and Amber gets more
    than she bargained for.


    'Ere. Is that a mushroom cloud I see forming over Ambridge?

    Nick
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Sep 5 20:41:30 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 05/09/2025 19:04, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/9/5 17:24:2, Kosmo wrote:
    []

    It does sound like an exam result - but no mention of getting a Desmond, >>>> or First Class Hons.


    Desmond - whoosh

    mrs McT


    Desmond Tutu; a degree is a 2 (ii). So if you get a Desmond you have a
    tutu.


    Yes. UK university B.Sc. or B. A. degrees are either first, second, or
    third class with honours, or just a pass. But so many people were coming
    in the "second" section that it was further divided into two-one and
    two-two.

    I wonder if the 'youth of today' still talk of Desmonds, or do they say
    "Who the -u$%^&* is Desmond?"
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From john ashby@johnashby20@yahoo.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Sat Sep 6 07:27:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 05/09/2025 20:41, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    On 05/09/2025 19:04, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/9/5 17:24:2, Kosmo wrote:
    []

    It does sound like an exam result - but no mention of getting a
    Desmond,
    or First Class Hons.


    Desmond - whoosh

    mrs McT


    Desmond Tutu; a degree is a 2 (ii).-a So if you get a Desmond you have a >>> tutu.


    Yes. UK university B.Sc. or B. A. degrees are either first, second, or
    third class with honours, or just a pass. But so many people were coming
    in the "second" section that it was further divided into two-one and
    two-two.

    I wonder if the 'youth of today' still talk of Desmonds, or do they say
    "Who the -u$%^&* is Desmond?"


    POI and I walked past the University of Bath's Virgil Building
    yesterday, and I remarked that half the students probably think it's
    named after the pilot of Thunderbird 2. She stiffly told me that they
    would be far too young to have built a Blue Peter Tracy Island. Which
    leaves me wondering which Virgil they do think it's named after.

    john
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.media.radio.archers on Sat Sep 6 08:15:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 07:27:11 +0100, john ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 05/09/2025 20:41, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    On 05/09/2025 19:04, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/9/5 17:24:2, Kosmo wrote:
    []

    It does sound like an exam result - but no mention of getting a
    Desmond,
    or First Class Hons.


    Desmond - whoosh

    mrs McT


    Desmond Tutu; a degree is a 2 (ii).a So if you get a Desmond you have a >>>> tutu.


    Yes. UK university B.Sc. or B. A. degrees are either first, second, or
    third class with honours, or just a pass. But so many people were coming >>> in the "second" section that it was further divided into two-one and
    two-two.

    I wonder if the 'youth of today' still talk of Desmonds, or do they say
    "Who the u$%^&* is Desmond?"


    POI and I walked past the University of Bath's Virgil Building
    yesterday, and I remarked that half the students probably think it's
    named after the pilot of Thunderbird 2. She stiffly told me that they
    would be far too young to have built a Blue Peter Tracy Island. Which
    leaves me wondering which Virgil they do think it's named after.

    Erme, wasn't Virgil Tracy named after Gus Grissom, the astronaut?

    Does the school history curriculum still end with the Second World
    War? If so, then combine that with the death of Latin in schools and
    there seems precious little chance of a student stumbling upon a
    Virgil in any shape or form.

    Nick
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  • From BrritSki@rtilbury@gmail.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Wed Sep 10 10:46:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 03/09/2025 19:27, Chris wrote:
    Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    On 03/09/2025 14:43, Chris wrote:
    one influences make up and how to use it, the others
    rabbit on about how they manage to do anything and everything despite being >>> totally blind or with a bit of sight.

    Precisely the sort of people who make me wonder why on earth "Disabled"
    became an acceptable term in place of "Handicapped."

    I, myself, am now *handicapped* by a condition which makes it very
    difficult for me to walk, do some household chores etc. I have a
    mobility scooter and qualified for a Blue Badge. I am definitely not
    disabled.

    (On a vaguely similar note, warning to anyone who says, when I'm dead,
    that I "passed." I will come back and haunt them.)




    Passed? Where is what I want to ask.

    Over the Rainbow Bridge. Duh ;)

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