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We've heard plenty of references to Hilda, Peggy's cat over the years
but I must have missed, or forgotten hearing any previous mention of
Tortoise. Have I?
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Pete.
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On 14/07/2025 09:59, Pete W wrote:

We've heard plenty of references to Hilda, Peggy's cat over the years
but I must have missed, or forgotten hearing any previous mention of Tortoise. Have I?
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Pete.

Yes.

They had a naming competition, with "high stakes" for the winner (though
can't remember what) and in the end went with Tortoise which I think was suggested by a child but can't remember which. The cat is a
tortoiseshell, I believe.

Not sure I've been that much help. Another, better-informed umrat will
be along in a minute.
--
Jane
The Amethyst Artist
BTM

http://www.clothandclay.co.uk/umra/cookbook.htm - Umrats' recipes






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On 14.7.25 10:07, Jane Vernon wrote:

On 14/07/2025 09:59, Pete W wrote:

We've heard plenty of references to Hilda, Peggy's cat over the years
but I must have missed, or forgotten hearing any previous mention of
Tortoise. Have I?
---
Pete.

Yes.

They had a naming competition, with "high stakes" for the winner (though can't remember what) and in the end went with Tortoise which I think was suggested by a child but can't remember which.-a The cat is a
tortoiseshell, I believe.

Not sure I've been that much help.-a Another, better-informed umrat will
be along in a minute.

Competition was in September / October 2024. Suggested by Jack Archer. Information courtesy of Chris Fish (ambridgereporter.org.uk). I think
it is about the last time it was mentioned. It was a Grange Farm feral
cat found by Pip so I am surprised it has been domesticated.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
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Jane Vernon <jane@clothandclay.co.uk> wrote:

On 14/07/2025 09:59, Pete W wrote:

We've heard plenty of references to Hilda, Peggy's cat over the years
but I must have missed, or forgotten hearing any previous mention of
Tortoise. Have I?
---
Pete.

Yes.

They had a naming competition, with "high stakes" for the winner (though can't remember what) and in the end went with Tortoise which I think was suggested by a child but can't remember which. The cat is a
tortoiseshell, I believe.

Not sure I've been that much help. Another, better-informed umrat will
be along in a minute.

I want to say Poppy named it. I think she was part of a litter that
someone found. Henwee and his mate IIRC. That naming plot went on for way
too long. it wasnrCOt funny and it wasnrCOt clever.

The stakes? Long forgotten - though only discovered a couple of weeks
ago, that at my 2022 hearing test, the audiologist failed to note I have
very narrow ear canals, so IrCOve been missing a great deal of life till now!
Thought my marbles had gone walkabout sometimes!

Mrs McT

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On 14.7.25 11:40, Chris wrote:

the audiologist failed to note I have
very narrow ear canals, so IrCOve been missing a great deal of life till now!
Thought my marbles had gone walkabout sometimes!

Surely marbles cannot go far if the canals are narrow?

Anyway I tend to think it is my hearing these days and then the Good
wife says she does not understand what the television character said so
I turn on the sub-titles because the music drowned out the information.

Both of us were annoyed watching Six Minutes to Midnight where a couple
of important conversations were in German and there were no subtitles on screen. That I do not comprehend. I cannot recommend the film as it
appeared to be a total indulgence for Eddie Izzard.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 10:59:17 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:

On 14.7.25 10:07, Jane Vernon wrote:

On 14/07/2025 09:59, Pete W wrote:

We've heard plenty of references to Hilda, Peggy's cat over the years
but I must have missed, or forgotten hearing any previous mention of
Tortoise. Have I?
---
Pete.

Yes.

They had a naming competition, with "high stakes" for the winner (though
can't remember what) and in the end went with Tortoise which I think was
suggested by a child but can't remember which.a The cat is a
tortoiseshell, I believe.

Not sure I've been that much help.a Another, better-informed umrat will
be along in a minute.

Competition was in September / October 2024. Suggested by Jack Archer. >Information courtesy of Chris Fish (ambridgereporter.org.uk). I think
it is about the last time it was mentioned. It was a Grange Farm feral
cat found by Pip so I am surprised it has been domesticated.

Thanks Kosmo for the link, wasn't aware of that site.
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Pete.
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 09:59:50 +0100, Pete W <pete@never.here> wrote:

We've heard plenty of references to Hilda, Peggy's cat over the years
but I must have missed, or forgotten hearing any previous mention of >Tortoise. Have I?
---
Pete.

Thanks all for your replies. I remember the storyline now but it
obviously didn't register <g>
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On 14.7.25 12:03, Pete W wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 10:59:17 +0100, Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:

On 14.7.25 10:07, Jane Vernon wrote:

On 14/07/2025 09:59, Pete W wrote:

We've heard plenty of references to Hilda, Peggy's cat over the years
but I must have missed, or forgotten hearing any previous mention of
Tortoise. Have I?
---
Pete.

Yes.

They had a naming competition, with "high stakes" for the winner (though >>> can't remember what) and in the end went with Tortoise which I think was >>> suggested by a child but can't remember which.-a The cat is a
tortoiseshell, I believe.

Not sure I've been that much help.-a Another, better-informed umrat will >>> be along in a minute.

Competition was in September / October 2024. Suggested by Jack Archer.
Information courtesy of Chris Fish (ambridgereporter.org.uk). I think
it is about the last time it was mentioned. It was a Grange Farm feral
cat found by Pip so I am surprised it has been domesticated.

Thanks Kosmo for the link, wasn't aware of that site.
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Pete.

Sadly the author became disenchanted in January when Neil's anniversary
story about his amended parentage story distorted the space time continuum.

I am working on something similar but have found The Archers wiki is
seeking to do something similar as well (but inaccurately) so am not
sure if I will proceed to put it online.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
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On 2025/7/14 10:59:17, Kosmo wrote:

On 14.7.25 10:07, Jane Vernon wrote:

On 14/07/2025 09:59, Pete W wrote:

We've heard plenty of references to Hilda, Peggy's cat over the years
but I must have missed, or forgotten hearing any previous mention of
Tortoise. Have I?
---
Pete.

Yes.

They had a naming competition, with "high stakes" for the winner

Yes, I remember that naming competition, and (many) UMRAts irritation on
how long it went on*.

(though can't remember what) and in the end went with Tortoise which I
think was suggested by a child but can't remember which.-a The cat is a
tortoiseshell, I believe.

Not sure I've been that much help.-a Another, better-informed umrat
will be along in a minute.

Oh, I think you have.>

Competition was in September / October 2024.-a Suggested by Jack Archer.

*In that case, must have been _my_ irritation (though I see here
otherrats were irritated too).

Information courtesy of Chris Fish (ambridgereporter.org.uk).-a I think
it is about the last time it was mentioned.-a It was a Grange Farm feral
cat found by Pip so I am surprised it has been domesticated.

Yes, I remember it as being a kitten, so could believe it to have been domesticated since then.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"When _I_ saw him, he was dead." "uh, he looked exactly the same when he
was alive, except he was vertical." (The Trouble with Harry)
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On 2025/7/14 11:55:14, Kosmo wrote:
[]

Anyway I tend to think it is my hearing these days and then the Good
wife says she does not understand what the television character said so
I turn on the sub-titles because the music drowned out the information.

I have had the subtitles on for years - mainly because it lets me pay
less attention (I suddenly wonder "what just happened/was said?", and
can usually answer myself by looking at the subtitles. For much the same reason, I have audio description on when available. The subtitles _do_
help when it's an accent I'm not good at (a lot of American ones, but a
lot of urban British ones, too).

I think this _has_ partly hidden from me _some_ deterioration in my
hearing; I recently did the RNIB website test (which reads out digits
with an increasing amount of white noise), and they _tell_ me I may have
the initial signs of some loss. But I really only did it because I'd
done some of the YouTube ones and discovered my upper frequency limit is
now quite low; I hadn't been aware of any difficulty understanding face-to-face conversation, or anything like that.>

Both of us were annoyed watching Six Minutes to Midnight where a couple
of important conversations were in German and there were no subtitles on screen.-a That I do not comprehend.-a I cannot recommend the film as it appeared to be a total indulgence for Eddie Izzard.

Subtitles for overall English (or American) programming, where some
foreign language is used (I don't know 6MM - is it nominally English?),
are a difficult choice; if it's a drama (including film, TV series,
etc.), and the main characters are supposed not to understand what's
being said, then I think it's right that we shouldn't be given English subtitles, as that puts us in the same position as the English-speaking characters. Well, not quite: ideally, rather than "(speaks German)" or similar, which is what's usually done, I think there should be
subtitles, but in German; that way, it'd be like real life, you could
pick up the odd word or phrase. But I realise that's asking a lot of the subtitlers!
If it's a foreign-language drama, then it should have English subtitles (ideally via the normal mechanism, so they can be turned off by those
who speak that language - in fact ideally selectable language, which I
think the technology can do, but again would probably be asking a lot!).

If it's a burst in the news, then - reluctantly - I agree with what's
usually done, English voice-over.--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Astaire was, of course, peerless, but it's worth remembering that Rogers
does everything he does, only backwards and in high heels.
- Barry Norman in Radio Times 5-11 January 2013 (possibly quoting Faith Whittlesey)
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 12:06:09 +0100, Pete W <pete@never.here> wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 09:59:50 +0100, Pete W <pete@never.here> wrote:

We've heard plenty of references to Hilda, Peggy's cat over the years
but I must have missed, or forgotten hearing any previous mention of >>Tortoise. Have I?
---
Pete.

Thanks all for your replies. I remember the storyline now but it
obviously didn't register <g>
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Pete.

What he said.
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Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:

On 14.7.25 11:40, Chris wrote:

the audiologist failed to note I have
very narrow ear canals, so IrCOve been missing a great deal of life till now!
Thought my marbles had gone walkabout sometimes!

Surely marbles cannot go far if the canals are narrow?

Anyway I tend to think it is my hearing these days and then the Good
wife says she does not understand what the television character said so
I turn on the sub-titles because the music drowned out the information.

Both of us were annoyed watching Six Minutes to Midnight where a couple
of important conversations were in German and there were no subtitles on screen. That I do not comprehend. I cannot recommend the film as it appeared to be a total indulgence for Eddie Izzard.

ROTFLMAO.

Mrs McT

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Kosmo <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:

On 14.7.25 10:07, Jane Vernon wrote:

On 14/07/2025 09:59, Pete W wrote:

We've heard plenty of references to Hilda, Peggy's cat over the years
but I must have missed, or forgotten hearing any previous mention of
Tortoise. Have I?
---
Pete.

Yes.

They had a naming competition, with "high stakes" for the winner (though
can't remember what) and in the end went with Tortoise which I think was
suggested by a child but can't remember which.-a The cat is a
tortoiseshell, I believe.

Not sure I've been that much help.-a Another, better-informed umrat will
be along in a minute.

Competition was in September / October 2024. Suggested by Jack Archer. Information courtesy of Chris Fish (ambridgereporter.org.uk). I think
it is about the last time it was mentioned. It was a Grange Farm feral
cat found by Pip so I am surprised it has been domesticated.

Thanks KRW

Mrs McT

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