• OT: sidraT

    From BrritSki@rtilbury@gmail.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Thu Aug 14 15:50:30 2025
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    My comment on an article in today's Times:

    Your Mum is going to be disappointed. I never owned a 60s Mini, but was
    a passenger in one many times and thought the engineering very clever.

    I did hire a new one in Switzerland once a few years ago though and
    hated it. Very large on the outside while simultaneously far more
    cramped on the inside than the original.

    A sort of sidraT if you see what I mean Dr. Who fans....


    I never thought of this reverse Tardis in respect of our much missed Sid
    RIP, but I'm sure as a science teacher he'd have found it amusing.
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  • From john ashby@johnashby20@yahoo.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Thu Aug 14 18:14:51 2025
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    On 14/08/2025 15:50, BrritSki wrote:
    My comment on an article in today's Times:

    Your Mum is going to be disappointed. I never owned a 60s Mini, but was
    a passenger in one many times and thought the engineering very clever.

    I did hire a new one in Switzerland once a few years ago though and
    hated it. Very large on the outside while simultaneously far more
    cramped on the inside than the original.

    A sort of sidraT if you see what I mean Dr. Who fans....


    I never thought of this reverse Tardis in respect of our much missed Sid RIP, but I'm sure as a science teacher he'd have found it amusing.

    I once endured riding as a passenger inan old mini driven by my guardian-toting, sandal-wearing, bearded social worker from Leicester to Ipswich in order to oppose the adoption of my eldest by his mother and
    her then husband [1]. The proposed adoptive parents failed to show and I
    had the sit with my knees up by my ears all the way back as well.

    john

    [1] About six months later I rang them up to ask what eldest might like
    for Christmas. Husband answered the phone, I asked to speak to ex and
    was plaintively told "shes left me". He's still important in eldest's
    life, though.
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  • From Jim Easterbrook@news@jim-easterbrook.me.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Thu Aug 14 19:36:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 18:14:51 +0100, john ashby wrote:

    On 14/08/2025 15:50, BrritSki wrote:
    My comment on an article in today's Times:

    Your Mum is going to be disappointed. I never owned a 60s Mini, but was
    a passenger in one many times and thought the engineering very clever.

    I once endured riding as a passenger inan old mini driven by my guardian-toting, sandal-wearing, bearded social worker from Leicester to Ipswich in order to oppose the adoption of my eldest by his mother and
    her then husband [1]. The proposed adoptive parents failed to show and I
    had the sit with my knees up by my ears all the way back as well.

    I've always been surprised at the reverence shown to the Mini and
    Issigonis. (Putting the high voltage electrics right at the front where
    the incoming rain drenches them was a really neat idea.) The 2CV is a far superior design. Linking the front and rear suspension was real genius.
    And it has luggage capacity.
    --
    Jim <http://www.jim-easterbrook.me.uk/>
    1959/1985? M B+ G+ A L- I- S- P-- CH0(p) Ar++ T+ H0 Q--- Sh0
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.media.radio.archers on Thu Aug 14 22:59:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 15:50:30 +0100, BrritSki <rtilbury@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    My comment on an article in today's Times:

    Your Mum is going to be disappointed. I never owned a 60s Mini, but was
    a passenger in one many times and thought the engineering very clever.

    I did hire a new one in Switzerland once a few years ago though and
    hated it. Very large on the outside while simultaneously far more
    cramped on the inside than the original.

    A sort of sidraT if you see what I mean Dr. Who fans....

    Oh yes, definitely.

    I never thought of this reverse Tardis in respect of our much missed Sid >RIP, but I'm sure as a science teacher he'd have found it amusing.

    Oh yes, definitely to that too.

    The old and the new Mini cars seem so vastly different I reckon one
    could fit an old one right inside a new one. One day when I have a lot
    of time on my hands (which isn't likely to come any time soon) I
    thought I might buy an Airfix[1] kit of each and build them as a
    composite just to find out.


    Nick
    [1]Other brands of plastic construction kit are available
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.media.radio.archers on Thu Aug 14 23:05:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 14 Aug 2025 19:36:49 GMT, Jim Easterbrook
    <news@jim-easterbrook.me.uk> wrote:

    On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 18:14:51 +0100, john ashby wrote:

    On 14/08/2025 15:50, BrritSki wrote:
    My comment on an article in today's Times:

    Your Mum is going to be disappointed. I never owned a 60s Mini, but was
    a passenger in one many times and thought the engineering very clever.

    I once endured riding as a passenger inan old mini driven by my
    guardian-toting, sandal-wearing, bearded social worker from Leicester to
    Ipswich in order to oppose the adoption of my eldest by his mother and
    her then husband [1]. The proposed adoptive parents failed to show and I
    had the sit with my knees up by my ears all the way back as well.

    I've always been surprised at the reverence shown to the Mini and
    Issigonis. (Putting the high voltage electrics right at the front where
    the incoming rain drenches them was a really neat idea.) The 2CV is a far >superior design. Linking the front and rear suspension was real genius.
    And it has luggage capacity.

    Yebbut, did Citroen design their 2CV in about a week then have the
    factory's chief panel-beater knock out a proof-of-concept prototype in
    an afternoon. (Or so I was told.)

    Nick
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.media.radio.archers on Thu Aug 14 23:25:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 18:14:51 +0100, john ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 14/08/2025 15:50, BrritSki wrote:
    My comment on an article in today's Times:

    Your Mum is going to be disappointed. I never owned a 60s Mini, but was
    a passenger in one many times and thought the engineering very clever.

    I did hire a new one in Switzerland once a few years ago though and
    hated it. Very large on the outside while simultaneously far more
    cramped on the inside than the original.

    A sort of sidraT if you see what I mean Dr. Who fans....


    I never thought of this reverse Tardis in respect of our much missed Sid
    RIP, but I'm sure as a science teacher he'd have found it amusing.

    I once endured riding as a passenger inan old mini driven by my >guardian-toting, sandal-wearing, bearded social worker from Leicester to >Ipswich in order to oppose the adoption of my eldest by his mother and
    her then husband [1]. The proposed adoptive parents failed to show and I
    had the sit with my knees up by my ears all the way back as well.

    ...but what size engine did it have? I remember, many years ago being
    driven at manic speed down the A2 in Kent by a strange American girl
    who was in love with my girlfriend[1] and the three of us were
    squashed into her Mini which had had an enormous custom engine
    crowbarred into the front.[1]

    Every time the sAg put her foot on the accelerator, the engine lurched
    forward, followed a fraction of a second later by the rest of the car
    catching up until..

    ...Until it didn't any more. Whatever engine mountings there had been
    were definitely not up to the job. Still, the AA was jolly good in
    those days.

    [1] About six months later I rang them up to ask what eldest might like
    for Christmas. Husband answered the phone, I asked to speak to ex and
    was plaintively told "shes left me". He's still important in eldest's
    life, though.

    In the words of a character from one of the BBC's other Sci-fi
    sitcoms:

    "Life? Don't talk to me about life."


    Nick
    [1]Well I thought my girlfriend was pretty hot and I can't blame the
    American girl for thinking the same.
    [2]I would have said "under the bonnet"[3] but the bonnet didn't
    really fit any more
    [3]Or "hood" in strange American girl parlance.
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Aug 15 00:14:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 2025/8/14 23:25:36, Nick Odell wrote:

    []

    In the words of a character from one of the BBC's other Sci-fi
    sitcoms:

    "Life? Don't talk to me about life."

    []

    Marvin was the reincarnation of Eeyore.--
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers
    that may never be questioned.
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  • From Chris J Dixon@chris@cdixon.me.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Aug 15 09:07:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    Nick Odell wrote:

    ...but what size engine did it have? I remember, many years ago being
    driven at manic speed down the A2 in Kent by a strange American girl
    who was in love with my girlfriend[1] and the three of us were
    squashed into her Mini which had had an enormous custom engine
    crowbarred into the front.[1]

    I bet it wasn't done with the attention to detail of these guys,
    though it is still, after many years, WIP.

    <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGSOZAHg1yQHU1tc_3Y5MTQg1qjtxA_nq>

    Chris
    --
    Chris J Dixon Nottingham
    '48/33 M B+ G++ A L(-) I S-- CH0(--)(p) Ar- T+ H0 ?Q
    chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1
    Plant amazing Acers.
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  • From Nick Odell@nickodell49@yahoo.ca to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Aug 15 10:22:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 09:07:00 +0100, Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk>
    wrote:

    Nick Odell wrote:

    ...but what size engine did it have? I remember, many years ago being >>driven at manic speed down the A2 in Kent by a strange American girl
    who was in love with my girlfriend[1] and the three of us were
    squashed into her Mini which had had an enormous custom engine
    crowbarred into the front.[1]

    I bet it wasn't done with the attention to detail of these guys,
    though it is still, after many years, WIP.

    <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGSOZAHg1yQHU1tc_3Y5MTQg1qjtxA_nq>

    Whoo-hoo!!! If I hadn't given up driving twenty-five years ago I'd
    probably be saying, "I want one!!!" And yes, in terms of
    professionalism and knowing what they are doing, etc, these guys seem
    streets ahead of the car in my memory. Except, of course, when they
    aren't - but everybody's entitled to a few mistakes! It wouldn't be
    Top Gear ^W ^W Bad Obsession Motorsport without them.

    Nick
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  • From BrritSki@rtilbury@gmail.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Aug 15 12:11:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 14/08/2025 22:59, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 15:50:30 +0100, BrritSki <rtilbury@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    My comment on an article in today's Times:

    Your Mum is going to be disappointed. I never owned a 60s Mini, but was
    a passenger in one many times and thought the engineering very clever.

    I did hire a new one in Switzerland once a few years ago though and
    hated it. Very large on the outside while simultaneously far more
    cramped on the inside than the original.

    A sort of sidraT if you see what I mean Dr. Who fans....

    Oh yes, definitely.

    I never thought of this reverse Tardis in respect of our much missed Sid
    RIP, but I'm sure as a science teacher he'd have found it amusing.

    Oh yes, definitely to that too.

    The old and the new Mini cars seem so vastly different I reckon one
    could fit an old one right inside a new one. One day when I have a lot
    of time on my hands (which isn't likely to come any time soon) I
    thought I might buy an Airfix[1] kit of each and build them as a
    composite just to find out.

    When we lived in Italy the waife bought a little Topper sailboat [1] we
    used to put it on the top of her Fiat 127 and drive over to Lago di
    Salto (not the one in Utah). The boat stuck out of both sides of the car.

    The next year we moved to Lubbock TX and as it was an expat. deal we
    were allowed a really good shipping allowance so we took the boat with
    us. There we had a Camaro and also a Mercury station wagon. The boat
    would fit inside the Mercury, although it did stick out at the back a
    little bit.

    There we sailed on Buffalo Springs Lake - a long thin piece of water
    that the wind usually blew the length of so making progress was tricky.
    The local windsurfers (a very new sport in 1978) would sail at high
    speed across the lake in a few seconds, crash into the other side, turn
    the board round, get back on, rinse repeat.

    A couple of years later when we were in Villeneuve-Loubet I convince TI
    that we could write a windsurfing simulator game so they paid for me to
    learn to sail in the sea - not easy.

    It stood me in good stead though on our frequent holidays at a little
    cove in Portinatx where there were 3 windsurfers for guests' use. The
    wind here blew you out to sea. Waife could sail out, but then I had to
    go out on a canoe to take over and sail it back :)

    [1] <https://toppersailboats.com/topper/>
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  • From BrritSki@rtilbury@gmail.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Aug 15 12:14:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 14/08/2025 23:25, Nick Odell wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 18:14:51 +0100, john ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 14/08/2025 15:50, BrritSki wrote:
    My comment on an article in today's Times:

    Your Mum is going to be disappointed. I never owned a 60s Mini, but was
    a passenger in one many times and thought the engineering very clever.

    I did hire a new one in Switzerland once a few years ago though and
    hated it. Very large on the outside while simultaneously far more
    cramped on the inside than the original.

    A sort of sidraT if you see what I mean Dr. Who fans....


    I never thought of this reverse Tardis in respect of our much missed Sid >>> RIP, but I'm sure as a science teacher he'd have found it amusing.

    I once endured riding as a passenger inan old mini driven by my
    guardian-toting, sandal-wearing, bearded social worker from Leicester to
    Ipswich in order to oppose the adoption of my eldest by his mother and
    her then husband [1]. The proposed adoptive parents failed to show and I
    had the sit with my knees up by my ears all the way back as well.

    ...but what size engine did it have?
    Whatever size it was it was transverse - that was the clever engineering
    that I appreciated.

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  • From BrritSki@rtilbury@gmail.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Aug 15 12:15:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 15/08/2025 09:07, Chris J Dixon wrote:
    Nick Odell wrote:

    ...but what size engine did it have? I remember, many years ago being
    driven at manic speed down the A2 in Kent by a strange American girl
    who was in love with my girlfriend[1] and the three of us were
    squashed into her Mini which had had an enormous custom engine
    crowbarred into the front.[1]

    I bet it wasn't done with the attention to detail of these guys,
    though it is still, after many years, WIP.

    <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGSOZAHg1yQHU1tc_3Y5MTQg1qjtxA_nq>

    That was exactly what I was expecting. Great series, very funny and also
    great skills on show.
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  • From Ben Blaney@benblaney@gmail.invalid to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Aug 15 16:38:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On Aug 15, 2025 at 4:07:00 AM EDT, "Chris J Dixon" <chris@cdixon.me.uk> wrote:

    Nick Odell wrote:

    ...but what size engine did it have? I remember, many years ago being
    driven at manic speed down the A2 in Kent by a strange American girl
    who was in love with my girlfriend[1] and the three of us were
    squashed into her Mini which had had an enormous custom engine
    crowbarred into the front.[1]

    I bet it wasn't done with the attention to detail of these guys,
    though it is still, after many years, WIP.

    <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGSOZAHg1yQHU1tc_3Y5MTQg1qjtxA_nq>

    Chris

    I've been watching that. Amazing.
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  • From Ben Blaney@benblaney@gmail.invalid to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Aug 15 17:49:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On Aug 15, 2025 at 7:11:59 AM EDT, "BrritSki" <rtilbury@gmail.com> wrote:

    The next year we moved to Lubbock TX

    I spent a bit of time in Lubbock. I liked the burrito place on University.
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  • From BrritSki@rtilbury@gmail.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Aug 15 19:31:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 15/08/2025 18:49, Ben Blaney wrote:
    On Aug 15, 2025 at 7:11:59 AM EDT, "BrritSki" <rtilbury@gmail.com> wrote:

    The next year we moved to Lubbock TX

    I spent a bit of time in Lubbock. I liked the burrito place on University.

    Not sure if that was there in 1978. I only remember a Steak and Ale, a
    Chinese place where I had szechuan food for the first time and a French
    place in the centre across from Texas A&M.
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Aug 15 20:16:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 14/08/2025 20:36, Jim Easterbrook wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 18:14:51 +0100, john ashby wrote:

    On 14/08/2025 15:50, BrritSki wrote:
    My comment on an article in today's Times:

    Your Mum is going to be disappointed. I never owned a 60s Mini, but was
    a passenger in one many times and thought the engineering very clever.

    I once endured riding as a passenger inan old mini driven by my
    guardian-toting, sandal-wearing, bearded social worker from Leicester to
    Ipswich in order to oppose the adoption of my eldest by his mother and
    her then husband [1]. The proposed adoptive parents failed to show and I
    had the sit with my knees up by my ears all the way back as well.

    I've always been surprised at the reverence shown to the Mini and
    Issigonis. (Putting the high voltage electrics right at the front where
    the incoming rain drenches them was a really neat idea.) The 2CV is a far superior design. Linking the front and rear suspension was real genius.
    And it has luggage capacity.

    The "Hydrolastic" system linked the front and rear suspension, but was
    that also genius?

    Wikipedia says: "Invented by British rubber engineer Alex Moulton"

    (I'm not quite sure how to read that.)
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Fri Aug 15 23:28:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 2025/8/15 20:16:2, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    On 14/08/2025 20:36, Jim Easterbrook wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 18:14:51 +0100, john ashby wrote:

    On 14/08/2025 15:50, BrritSki wrote:
    My comment on an article in today's Times:

    Your Mum is going to be disappointed. I never owned a 60s Mini, but was >>>> a passenger in one many times and thought the engineering very clever.

    I thought it was _quite_ clever. Basically making a go-kart into a
    just-about viable car - and cheap.

    []
    I only have two experiences of (the original) mini; I had a friend who
    had an MG one, and knew how to use it; I found travelling in it as a
    passenger not restful = I don't think because it went _that_ fast (and certainly the roadholding was excellent), just you were so much closer
    to the road it _seemed_ fast. The other was I once drove someone's mini
    a short distance (I don't remember why - possibly taking her home after
    a party at my lodgings when she'd had too much to drink to be able to
    drive) and (it was one of the smaller-engined ones) they had to
    encourage me to really make the engine scream, compared to what I was
    used to in my normal-sized car.>>
    I've always been surprised at the reverence shown to the Mini and

    There _were_ some aspects of the mini that were quite innovative - and
    some that weren't, mainly due to its very innovativeness, and the short
    time it had to be developed. And Issigonis was clever, and like many
    clever people, quirky.

    Issigonis. (Putting the high voltage electrics right at the front where
    the incoming rain drenches them was a really neat idea.) The 2CV is a far

    That's an example of the innovativeness causing problems. Turning the
    engine sideways was inoovative; doing it that way round wasn't clever
    _with hindsight_. (Similarly, the radiator ending up in the wheelwell,
    where it picked up lots of mud etc., didn't help.)

    superior design. Linking the front and rear suspension was real genius.

    The 2CV [no, Thunderbird, my typing "CV" does _not_ mean I've forgotten
    to add an attachment!) Was an older design, developed over a long time.
    Aspects of it _were_ innovative. It was I believe the last large-numbers
    car to be made with a chassis rather than a monococque - into the 1990s,
    I think!

    And it has luggage capacity.

    Well, it's much bigger, isn't it!>>
    The "Hydrolastic" system linked the front and rear suspension, but was
    that also genius?

    Clever, but problematic.>
    Wikipedia says: "Invented by British rubber engineer Alex Moulton"

    (I'm not quite sure how to read that.)

    I read it one of three ways:
    a British engineer made of rubber
    an engineer who worked with British rubber
    a British engineer who worked with Rubber

    I suspect the last is the one intended (-:
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    "Mary Poppins is a junkie"
    - bumper sticker on Julie Andrews' car in the '60s
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  • From Jim Easterbrook@news@jim-easterbrook.me.uk to uk.media.radio.archers on Sat Aug 16 08:57:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 20:16:02 +0100, Sam Plusnet wrote:

    On 14/08/2025 20:36, Jim Easterbrook wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 18:14:51 +0100, john ashby wrote:

    On 14/08/2025 15:50, BrritSki wrote:
    My comment on an article in today's Times:

    Your Mum is going to be disappointed. I never owned a 60s Mini, but
    was a passenger in one many times and thought the engineering very
    clever.

    I once endured riding as a passenger inan old mini driven by my
    guardian-toting, sandal-wearing, bearded social worker from Leicester
    to Ipswich in order to oppose the adoption of my eldest by his mother
    and her then husband [1]. The proposed adoptive parents failed to show
    and I had the sit with my knees up by my ears all the way back as
    well.

    I've always been surprised at the reverence shown to the Mini and
    Issigonis. (Putting the high voltage electrics right at the front where
    the incoming rain drenches them was a really neat idea.) The 2CV is a
    far superior design. Linking the front and rear suspension was real
    genius. And it has luggage capacity.

    The "Hydrolastic" system linked the front and rear suspension, but was
    that also genius?

    If they'd done it first. And made it reliable.
    --
    Jim <http://www.jim-easterbrook.me.uk/>
    1959/1985? M B+ G+ A L- I- S- P-- CH0(p) Ar++ T+ H0 Q--- Sh0
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to uk.media.radio.archers on Sat Aug 16 21:24:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.media.radio.archers

    On 16/08/2025 09:57, Jim Easterbrook wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 20:16:02 +0100, Sam Plusnet wrote:

    On 14/08/2025 20:36, Jim Easterbrook wrote:
    On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 18:14:51 +0100, john ashby wrote:

    On 14/08/2025 15:50, BrritSki wrote:
    My comment on an article in today's Times:

    Your Mum is going to be disappointed. I never owned a 60s Mini, but
    was a passenger in one many times and thought the engineering very
    clever.

    I once endured riding as a passenger inan old mini driven by my
    guardian-toting, sandal-wearing, bearded social worker from Leicester
    to Ipswich in order to oppose the adoption of my eldest by his mother
    and her then husband [1]. The proposed adoptive parents failed to show >>>> and I had the sit with my knees up by my ears all the way back as
    well.

    I've always been surprised at the reverence shown to the Mini and
    Issigonis. (Putting the high voltage electrics right at the front where
    the incoming rain drenches them was a really neat idea.) The 2CV is a
    far superior design. Linking the front and rear suspension was real
    genius. And it has luggage capacity.

    The "Hydrolastic" system linked the front and rear suspension, but was
    that also genius?

    If they'd done it first. And made it reliable.

    Given the state of British Leyland (or whatever they were in that time
    period) I doubt if that would have been possible.
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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