• Re: Afghan granted asylum goes on holiday

    From Spike@aero.spike@mail.com to uk.legal.moderated on Thu Sep 25 21:09:13 2025
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    GB <NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid> wrote:
    On 25/09/2025 12:05, Jon Ribbens wrote:
    On 2025-09-25, Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:
    A news item this morning on the BBCrCOs R4 Today programme noted that an >>> Afghan asylum seeker who came here in 2020 and was granted asylum, had
    posted social media posts of his foreign vacation. In Afghanistan.

    Could his Asylum status be revoked?

    Why would it be revoked?

    Just guessing here what the Op has in mind:

    1. The reason asylum was originally granted is no longer valid.

    2. Or, even, it was never valid.

    ThatrCOs about it - itrCOs not rocket science, after all.

    ItrCOs similar to the case not many years ago of a Somali who was granted asylum, but went on to commit criminal activity. He was found guilty but
    not deported because he claimed he would be badly treated if he returned to Somalia. His criminal activity carried on, and when the police started to pursue him, he fled the country, and went back to Somalia. So his claims of possible ill-treatment were tenuous at best.
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    Spike


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  • From Jon Ribbens@jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu to uk.legal.moderated on Thu Sep 25 23:15:01 2025
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    On 2025-09-25, GB <NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid> wrote:
    On 25/09/2025 12:05, Jon Ribbens wrote:
    On 2025-09-25, Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:
    A news item this morning on the BBCrCOs R4 Today programme noted that an >>> Afghan asylum seeker who came here in 2020 and was granted asylum, had
    posted social media posts of his foreign vacation. In Afghanistan.

    Could his Asylum status be revoked?

    Why would it be revoked?

    Just guessing here what the Op has in mind:
    1. The reason asylum was originally granted is no longer valid.
    2. Or, even, it was never valid.

    Yes, I was hoping they might think about their assumptions.

    Even if they were seeking asylum from Afghanistan, that doesn't
    preclude them from ever returning there briefly. One very obvious
    example would be that they have family there, which might cause
    someone to travel to a place even at risk of their own life.

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  • From The Todal@the_todal@icloud.com to uk.legal.moderated on Fri Sep 26 11:26:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: uk.legal.moderated

    On 26/09/2025 00:15, Jon Ribbens wrote:
    On 2025-09-25, GB <NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid> wrote:
    On 25/09/2025 12:05, Jon Ribbens wrote:
    On 2025-09-25, Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:
    A news item this morning on the BBCrCOs R4 Today programme noted that an >>>> Afghan asylum seeker who came here in 2020 and was granted asylum, had >>>> posted social media posts of his foreign vacation. In Afghanistan.

    Could his Asylum status be revoked?

    Why would it be revoked?

    Just guessing here what the Op has in mind:
    1. The reason asylum was originally granted is no longer valid.
    2. Or, even, it was never valid.

    Yes, I was hoping they might think about their assumptions.

    Even if they were seeking asylum from Afghanistan, that doesn't
    preclude them from ever returning there briefly. One very obvious
    example would be that they have family there, which might cause
    someone to travel to a place even at risk of their own life.


    May I recommend the ITV documentary "Inside Britain's Asylum Crisis"
    which seems reasonably fair and balanced, giving a voice to people who
    feel that their communities have been taken over by an influx of
    refugees in hotels but also giving a voice to some refugees?

    We need further documentaries to debunk the myth that asylum seekers are
    in luxury hotels and are first in the queue for all manner of health and
    other services.

    The USA and the UK fucked up Afghanistan in a futile attempt to quash
    Bin Laden and his gang and to change a Taliban regime into a brave new democracy with a corrupt puppet government and lots of bribery and
    corruption. Now that the Taliban are back, maybe we have a duty to help
    those ordinary citizens whom we have betrayed.

    A couple of cases, randomly chosen:

    https://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKUT/IAC/2013/00148_ukut_iac_2013_dg_afghanistan.html

    https://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKUT/IAC/2018/118.html




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