• OT This is where some of the energy stealth taxes went.

    From alan_m@junk@admac.myzen.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Tue Oct 14 08:01:39 2025
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w965gz8zgo

    98% of homes that had external wall insulation installed under a
    Government scheme need remedial work. The same for 29% of houses fitted
    with internal insulation.
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  • From RJH@patchmoney@gmx.com to uk.d-i-y on Tue Oct 14 07:30:22 2025
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    On 14 Oct 2025 at 08:01:39 BST, alan_m wrote:


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w965gz8zgo

    98% of homes that had external wall insulation installed under a
    Government scheme need remedial work. The same for 29% of houses fitted
    with internal insulation.

    Indeed. How not to do it. Full report here:

    https://www.nao.org.uk/reports/energy-efficiency-installations-under-the-energy-company-obligation/
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  • From David Wade@dave@g4ugm.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Tue Oct 14 10:05:09 2025
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    On 14/10/2025 09:01, alan_m wrote:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w965gz8zgo

    98% of homes that had external wall insulation installed under a
    Government scheme need remedial work. The same for 29% of houses fitted
    with internal insulation.

    Is it just me, but does every government grant of -ux,000 pounds for insulation/heat pumps/boiler replacement immediately result in the price
    of such work increasing by the amount of the grant...

    ... and why wasn't council building control involved? Surely that would
    have kept things under control? oh no, it would have cost money as well...

    Dave
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  • From Clive Page@usenet@page2.eu to uk.d-i-y on Tue Oct 14 10:56:42 2025
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    On 14/10/2025 08:01, alan_m wrote:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w965gz8zgo

    98% of homes that had external wall insulation installed under a
    Government scheme need remedial work. The same for 29% of houses fitted
    with internal insulation.


    We have for some months been getting junk phone calls just about every
    day from "your local energy adviser". As we put the phone down right
    away I don't know which scam they are promoting but I suspect that it's
    this one. These calls stopped recently just when news of these
    problems came out - what an amazing coincidence.
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    Clive Page

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Tue Oct 14 11:22:26 2025
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    On 14/10/2025 10:56, Clive Page wrote:
    On 14/10/2025 08:01, alan_m wrote:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w965gz8zgo

    98% of homes that had external wall insulation installed under a
    Government scheme need remedial work. The same for 29% of houses
    fitted with internal insulation.


    We have for some months been getting junk phone calls just about every
    day from "your local energy adviser".-a-a As we put the phone down right away I don't know which scam they are promoting but I suspect that it's
    this one.-a-a These calls stopped recently just when news of these
    problems came out - what an amazing coincidence.


    The trouble with socialism, isn't that its bad idea in principle, its
    just that it requires 100% honest and selfless beings for its correct operation.
    Humans, unfortunately are greedy selfish little capitalists at heart.
    And you need to design a system that allows for that.
    Giving public money to them without there being a way to establish
    whether or not its being deployed as intended, is typical leftist bollocks.

    Its far better to let people keep their money, and spend it as they see
    fit, in the sure and certain knowledge that they will be a damn sight
    more thrifty with it than any government bureaucrat.
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    "Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have
    forgotten your aim."

    George Santayana

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  • From Chris J Dixon@chris@cdixon.me.uk to uk.d-i-y on Tue Oct 14 13:46:46 2025
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    Clive Page wrote:

    We have for some months been getting junk phone calls just about every
    day from "your local energy adviser". As we put the phone down right
    away I don't know which scam they are promoting but I suspect that it's
    this one. These calls stopped recently just when news of these
    problems came out - what an amazing coincidence.

    I get plenty of those too. Also some want to know about my foam
    loft insulation, which I don't have, of the age of my wall
    insulation.

    The most persistent, presumably because there are available
    records of solar panel installs, are offers of a "free safety and
    function check". I simply tell them I am an electrical engineer
    with a love of spreadsheets, and everything is OK, thanks.

    Chris
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    chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1

    Plant amazing Acers.
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  • From Timatmarford@tim@marford.uk.com to uk.d-i-y on Tue Oct 14 15:15:17 2025
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    On 14/10/2025 10:56, Clive Page wrote:
    On 14/10/2025 08:01, alan_m wrote:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w965gz8zgo

    98% of homes that had external wall insulation installed under a
    Government scheme need remedial work. The same for 29% of houses
    fitted with internal insulation.


    We have for some months been getting junk phone calls just about every
    day from "your local energy adviser".-a-a As we put the phone down right away I don't know which scam they are promoting but I suspect that it's
    this one.-a-a These calls stopped recently just when news of these
    problems came out - what an amazing coincidence.

    Me too!

    At our previous house, we had loft insulation topped up under some green
    deal scheme or other.

    When we moved, we took our landline number with us. I suspect they are revisiting the green deal numbers list.>

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  • From Andrew@Andrew97d@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Tue Oct 14 17:40:50 2025
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    On 14/10/2025 08:30, RJH wrote:
    On 14 Oct 2025 at 08:01:39 BST, alan_m wrote:


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w965gz8zgo

    98% of homes that had external wall insulation installed under a
    Government scheme need remedial work. The same for 29% of houses fitted
    with internal insulation.

    Indeed. How not to do it. Full report here:

    https://www.nao.org.uk/reports/energy-efficiency-installations-under-the-energy-company-obligation/


    "We can't open this file, Something went wrong" (Summary, 2nd link)
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to uk.d-i-y on Tue Oct 14 17:52:17 2025
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    Andrew wrote:

    RJH wrote:

    https://www.nao.org.uk/reports/energy-efficiency-installations-under-
    the-energy-company-obligation/

    "We can't open this file, Something went wrong" (Summary, 2nd link)

    My PDF reader gives a warning "this document uses unsupported features
    (XFA) and might not render properly" ... but it looks basically OK to me.
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  • From Andrew@Andrew97d@btinternet.com to uk.d-i-y on Tue Oct 14 20:02:46 2025
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    On 14/10/2025 17:52, Andy Burns wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    RJH wrote:

    https://www.nao.org.uk/reports/energy-efficiency-installations-under-
    the-energy-company-obligation/

    "We can't open this file, Something went wrong" (Summary, 2nd link)

    My PDF reader gives a warning "this document uses unsupported features
    (XFA) and might not render properly" ... but it looks basically OK to me.

    I assume my windows 10 Pro PC is using the Microsoft default
    in a new tab. It didn't fire up Foxit pdf reader, but I'll try
    and persuade that to open it.
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  • From John Rumm@see.my.signature@nowhere.null to uk.d-i-y on Wed Oct 15 00:14:42 2025
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    On 14/10/2025 10:56, Clive Page wrote:
    On 14/10/2025 08:01, alan_m wrote:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w965gz8zgo

    98% of homes that had external wall insulation installed under a
    Government scheme need remedial work. The same for 29% of houses
    fitted with internal insulation.


    We have for some months been getting junk phone calls just about every
    day from "your local energy adviser".-a-a As we put the phone down right away I don't know which scam they are promoting but I suspect that it's
    this one.-a-a These calls stopped recently just when news of these
    problems came out - what an amazing coincidence.

    Have you listened to:

    https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Local_energy_advisor_scam
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    Cheers,

    John.

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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to uk.d-i-y on Tue Oct 14 21:41:10 2025
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    On Tue, 10/14/2025 3:02 PM, Andrew wrote:
    On 14/10/2025 17:52, Andy Burns wrote:
    Andrew wrote:

    RJH wrote:

    https://www.nao.org.uk/reports/energy-efficiency-installations-under- the-energy-company-obligation/

    "We can't open this file, Something went wrong" (Summary, 2nd link)

    My PDF reader gives a warning "this document uses unsupported features (XFA) and might not render properly" ... but it looks basically OK to me.

    I assume my windows 10 Pro PC is using the Microsoft default
    in a new tab. It didn't fire up Foxit pdf reader, but I'll try
    and persuade that to open it.

    "Save Link As" and when the file is local on your disk,
    open with Foxit then ?

    Paul
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  • From alan_m@junk@admac.myzen.co.uk to uk.d-i-y on Wed Oct 15 09:26:48 2025
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    On 14/10/2025 09:05, David Wade wrote:
    On 14/10/2025 09:01, alan_m wrote:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w965gz8zgo

    98% of homes that had external wall insulation installed under a
    Government scheme need remedial work. The same for 29% of houses
    fitted with internal insulation.

    Is it just me, but does every government grant of -ux,000 pounds for insulation/heat pumps/boiler replacement immediately result in the price
    of such work increasing by the amount of the grant...


    i) most of the time it's not a "Government" grant but a green stealth
    tax on our utility bills.

    ii) these schemes usually result in every cowboy outfit jumping on th
    band wagon.
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